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(Wired)   Amish sue to prevent having to implant RFID chips, or as they like to call them, "the mark of Satan," in their livestock   (blog.wired.com) divider line
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2008-09-12 3:57:39 PM  

eqtworld: NittLion78: I'm usually the first to say, "HURRRR UR RELIJIN IS DUM" but seriously - leave the Amish and Britney alone.

Should you be allowed do decide which laws you will follow based on your personal interpretation of the bible?

because if so.............


They're a large, self-organizing population. They're not using isolation to brainwash anyone or trap people, so largely the government will bend to accommodate their non-harmful behaviors rather than the other way around... as it should be.

As for this issue specifically? I have no idea. I kind of assume that a farmer can keep track of his cows without implanted radio devices, though, so I think they should add some addendum regarding "if you don't implant, you have to use the following recordkeeping measures, etc." and leave it alone.
 
2008-09-12 4:33:17 PM  
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2008-09-12 4:34:48 PM  
also...

FTA: "...represents an infringement of their 'dominion over cattle and all living things' in violation of their fundamental religious beliefs,"

that doesn't sound extremely arrogant to anyone else??
 
2008-09-12 4:59:34 PM  
They're probably going to win this one.

The Amish don't have trouble tracking where their cattle go--they're some of the best record keepers around. It's the factory farms that lose track.

And I'm willing to bet that those of you who like this RFID tag are also the same ones perusing the organic section of the local farmers' market.

As for the religion angle...well, the Constitution doesn't say freedom from religion, does it? Besides--how exactly is this affecting your everyday life?

Man up, nancy boy.
 
2008-09-12 5:10:02 PM  

angrygrizzly: They're probably going to win this one.

The Amish don't have trouble tracking where their cattle go--they're some of the best record keepers around. It's the factory farms that lose track.

And I'm willing to bet that those of you who like this RFID tag are also the same ones perusing the organic section of the local farmers' market.

As for the religion angle...well, the Constitution doesn't say freedom from religion, does it? Besides--how exactly is this affecting your everyday life?

Man up, nancy boy.


I'm fully with the Amish on this one and you are right about them knowing precisely where their meat goes (he-he...pardon). They are mainly selling locally. It's the huge factory farms that sell to the massive, nationwide/global distributors.

I will, however, point out that the Amish are a perfect good example of why freedom of religion must imply freedom from religion. They live apart by their own choice, free to worship and exist as they choose and making sure that people can leave the sect if they wish. They understand that your freedom from my beliefs and mine from yours is the best way to make sure we all have it the way that suits us best.
 
2008-09-12 5:34:57 PM  
I interpret the bible to say that I should be allowed to grow pot in my house for my own use

*begins growing pot*
 
2008-09-12 8:05:06 PM  

moistD: I grew up in Lancaster PA and I completely support the Amish. They are just about the best neighbors to have living around you. They don't bother you, they don't push their beliefs on you, they are always willing to help you, they take care of their land and each other. They are incredibly caring people and keep to themselves. I don't see the big deal in allowing them this freedom.


you're right. but this is fark. these idiots know better...
 
2008-09-13 5:55:40 AM  
RFID could be an awesome technology, but right now it's still in it's infancy. The basic idea is there. And yes, it is the mark of Satan.
 
2008-09-13 3:05:20 PM  

eqtworld: I interpret the bible to say that I should be allowed to grow pot in my house for my own use

*begins growing pot*


Oddly, I agree that that course of action is the same thing that the Amish want: Property rights.

SmnM4g1s: RFID could be an awesome technology, but right now it's still in it's infancy. The basic idea is there. And yes, it is the mark of Satan.


Feel free to use it for your cattle, let other people do what they want with theirs.
 
2008-09-15 4:25:16 PM  

eqtworld: They Amish want to sell us food and not comply with the USDA.

My religion says that I can raise cows and not tag them, it also says I can keep the beef at room temperature for 20 hours before I sell it to you (another violation of USDA/FDA rules)


(I know this is a dead thread)

I didn't gather from the article that they were wanting to sell the produce on the public market. That's definitely a fair point.

How exactly (and concisely) does tagging the cow help track down the disease once the meat has made it into the market? (Just curious...)

I totally agree that you shouldn't let meat rot... that's just gross...
 
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