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(CBS2Chicago.com)   Gas expected to drop to $3.50 a gallon by Labor Day. Quick: Someone blame Bush   (cbs2chicago.com) divider line
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2008-07-24 12:15:43 AM  
You're, um, happy with the fact that gas at $3.50 would be triple what it was when Bush took office?
 
2008-07-24 12:25:17 AM  
Whamdangler: You're, um, happy with the fact that gas at $3.50 would be triple what it was when Bush took office?

I came here to say this very thing. It's still three times more farking expensive than is was a few short years ago.
 
2008-07-24 12:26:07 AM  
Add me to the list of people bemused by the idea of gas "dropping to" $3.50/gallon
 
2008-07-24 12:26:53 AM  
another record achievement, he managed to undo some of his own damage.

and what's even more impressive is that he did it with subby's head firmly lodges in his ass.
 
2008-07-24 12:37:31 AM  
Wait until people have to buy heating oil this winter. You can drive less, but it's hard to heat your house less when there's global cooling a-raging.
 
2008-07-24 12:49:48 AM  
Looks like the October Surprise came early
 
2008-07-24 12:51:54 AM  
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2008-07-24 12:56:50 AM  
The price of gas has gone up 400% in 8 years and you are happy that it will only be up 350%?

Really?

Read that headline back to yourself and then punch yourself in the face.
 
2008-07-24 1:06:25 AM  
bulldg4life: The price of gas has gone up 400% in 8 years and you are happy that it will only be up 350%?

Really?

Read that headline back to yourself and then punch yourself in the face.


um, yeah. came here to say that.

I would also like to point out that the attacks of 9/11/01 occurred under his "watch" (and numerous other attacks on US embassies and stations around the world), as did the subsequent recession, housing crisis, dollar crash, and oil price surge.

/George "At least gays can't get married in most states!" W. Bush
 
2008-07-24 1:13:21 AM  
Ah. Just in time for the GOP Convention!

/Why am I not surprised?
 
2008-07-24 1:14:13 AM  
I like the dropping like a rock part. Yeah, 12% drop in price and it is still an assrape. Thanks BushCo
 
2008-07-24 2:01:12 AM  
Gas is dropping, because oil is dropping, because a U.S. economy on the verge of an industrial-sector collapse from a nearly 200% increase in oil prices in 2 years is scaring the shiat out of oil speculators.

Aside from soaring demand, Middle-east meddling and instability in Iraq and sabre-rattling with Iran was a large part of that increase, so yes, we can still blame Bush.
 
2008-07-24 2:33:10 AM  
Where are peak oil and $200/barrel assh*les now

/If speculation investigations send a few crook speculators to prison, expect $2 gas by December
/Keep writing to your congressperson
 
2008-07-24 2:33:57 AM  
When i read FARK gas price threads I sometimes get the feeling that everyone's stuck at the bottom of a cave guessing about shadows they see on the walls.
 
2008-07-24 2:38:36 AM  
Massa Damnata
When i read FARK gas price threads I sometimes get the feeling that everyone's stuck at the bottom of a cave guessing about shadows they see on the walls.


Yeah, but you're still in that cave playing with Plato. I Kant believe it!
 
2008-07-24 2:44:27 AM  
Well I mean gas shouldn't have ever been that cheap. And with China having 9 million more cars since 2000, the inflated dollar, constantly shiatty gas millage of the cars we drive, you kind of have to admit there has to be some kind of adjustment pricewise.

$80ish a barrel is about right.

More worried about the upcoming heating bills we have to pay than gas prices.

And gas prices going down before Labor day? Ha!
 
2008-07-24 2:49:19 AM  
doglover

Better than sitting here Hegeling over gas prices.
 
2008-07-24 2:51:06 AM  
bolzy: Where are peak oil and $200/barrel assh*les now

Hi there.

/If speculation investigations send a few crook speculators to prison, expect $2 gas by December
/Keep writing to your congressperson


Maybe if you write enough letters, your congressperson will start peeing gasoline and then you can drive around on that!
 
2008-07-24 2:52:40 AM  
Highroller48: Gas is dropping, because oil is dropping, because a U.S. economy on the verge of an industrial-sector collapse from a nearly 200% increase in oil prices in 2 years is scaring the shiat out of oil speculators.

Aside from soaring demand, Middle-east meddling and instability in Iraq and sabre-rattling with Iran was a large part of that increase, so yes, we can still blame Bush.


Actually analysts are starting to pin the blame for the recent run-up in oil prices - and its rapid fall in the last few days - on bad investments/speculation/gamble by an energy company's hedge funds

And the trading may have been unauthorized
 
2008-07-24 2:54:25 AM  
Sorry boys, nothing to do with politics (at least American)

China has been pulling cars of streets in an effort to cut down on pollution, meaning they're buying less gas.

Lower demand= Lower $$$
 
2008-07-24 2:58:17 AM  
Ace Attorney: Sorry boys, nothing to do with politics (at least American)

China has been pulling cars off of streets in an effort to cut down on pollution, meaning they're buying less gas.

Lower demand= Lower $$$


FTFM
 
2008-07-24 3:00:31 AM  
Gas hasn't dropped at all here; still $1.36/gal.

Americans "rejoicing" over the POSSIBILITY of $3.50 gas...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
(breath)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

/stop it you're killing me!
//seriously, all the dollars you're sending to Dubai, they are KILLING me!
///Is the Empire State Building for sale yet? A friend in Abu Dhabi wants the comlpete set
 
2008-07-24 3:07:30 AM  
Will we see an "Oil prices drop on news that oil prices may drop" headline tomorrow? If not I'm going to be disappointed.
 
2008-07-24 3:21:18 AM  
Dubai Vol: //seriously, all the dollars you're sending to Dubai, they are KILLING me!
///Is the Empire State Building for sale yet? A friend in Abu Dhabi wants the comlpete set


Haha.. You're an asshole, but that shiats funny.
 
2008-07-24 3:22:04 AM  
Dubai Vol: Gas hasn't dropped at all here; still $1.36/gal.

Americans "rejoicing" over the POSSIBILITY of $3.50 gas...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
(breath)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

/stop it you're killing me!
//seriously, all the dollars you're sending to Dubai, they are KILLING me!
///Is the Empire State Building for sale yet? A friend in Abu Dhabi wants the comlpete set


Yeah but you live in Dubai. So the joke is really on you.
 
2008-07-24 3:32:28 AM  
I hate Chevy: Yeah but you live in Dubai. So the joke is really on you.

Have you ever been to Dubai? The roads are paved in SOLID GOLD and instead of using water for daily chores such as showering and washing dishes, they use black gold, Texas tea
 
2008-07-24 3:37:19 AM  
I hate Chevy: Yeah but you live in Dubai. So the joke is really on you.

Yeah, between the cheap gas, the cheap beer (Carlsberg $3.19/6,) the cheap steaks (ribeye $3.59/lb,) and no taxes, it's hard to figure out how to spend any money. My wife won't even let me pick up hookers....
 
2008-07-24 3:44:47 AM  
Oil will be back to about $100 a barrel very soon, remember, Iran must be hit before time runs out in January.
 
2008-07-24 3:45:13 AM  
Dubai Vol: Gas hasn't dropped at all here; still $1.36/gal.

Americans "rejoicing" over the POSSIBILITY of $3.50 gas...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
(breath)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

/stop it you're killing me!
//seriously, all the dollars you're sending to Dubai, they are KILLING me!
///Is the Empire State Building for sale yet? A friend in Abu Dhabi wants the comlpete set


Can you get me a nursing job? I heard the Brit tarts are flocking to there.
 
2008-07-24 3:56:38 AM  
EL_FABREZ: Can you get me a nursing job? I heard the Brit tarts are flocking to there.

The problem with nursing jobs is that Filipina nurses will come to work for two-fifths of bugger all and sleep 4 to a room in dormitories. Mrs Dubai actually came here as a nurse back in 1983 (yeah, we're old wrinkly farts)but has moved on and is now in IT management. Any contract you look at, make sure your housing is provided.

Plenty of English crumpet, though, you're right about that: Mrs Dubai is from merrie olde...where we'll be paying $10/gal for petrol when we visit next month

/either way, people laugh at American gas prices.
//petrol's too bloody cheap there!
 
2008-07-24 4:42:28 AM  
Hey subby, suck my cock.
 
2008-07-24 4:53:36 AM  
Blaming Bush for gas prices is rather stupid. Blame the markets that allow a 7% margin on oil futures.

For what that means, say oil is at $140 a barrel. A futures contract is for 1,000 barrels, so one contract goes for $140,000. However, you only need to come up with 7% of that, $9800. And if the price edges up $2 a barrel, you've got $2000 profit. Or a gross margin of over 20%. And if you're a hedge fund, you borrow most of the $9800. So the profit margin is even greater.

There is no other futures contract you can buy with so little money upfront. Indeed there's nothing you can buy on margin that allows such a low margin. Cheap oil is a good ting. Being able to buy oil futures on the cheap, is not.
 
2008-07-24 5:48:25 AM  
Trolling headline style, facilitated by the mods.
 
2008-07-24 6:42:40 AM  
Asian economic crisis in the second half of Bill Clinton's admin leading to continually low oil prices. Then those economies recover, China and India and Indonesia start buying up more and more oil, and you think it's all about Bush. Arrogance.

No one remembers these things because people only think about American economics. If China collapsed into chaos and civil war we couldn't buy shoes but oil would be cheaper.
 
2008-07-24 6:58:30 AM  
Ace Attorney Quote 2008-07-24 02:54:25 AM
Sorry boys, nothing to do with politics (at least American)


thats funny, US gasoline inventories from yesterday showed an unprecedented build.


Americans have been using 3% less gasoline a month. Might not sound like a lot, but when you are talking in billions of barrels, its more than you think.
 
2008-07-24 7:19:39 AM  
Wake me when it's $1.50.
 
2008-07-24 7:43:37 AM  
Now's the time when the government should raise the federal gas tax; the money's desperately needed by the states to maintain and build highways.

But yes, everyone saying "wow, $3.50/gallon gas isn't all that bad" is exactly what the gas companies were hoping you'd say. Remember a few years ago when gas jumped up to $3.00/gallon, then fell back to "only" $2.75? Same thing happened then too. Prices tend to fall in midsummer, then rise again as Labor Day gets near.

/nothing different this year
//except for $4/gallon gas
///too high
 
2008-07-24 7:48:06 AM  
using the same pricing modifiers as last year and through June, given that the wholesale price of gas has declined to $3.03/gallon the retail price should be about $3.70/gallon, yet retail pricing has remained pretty inflated at over $4.00/gallon.

So, while prices are falling, it certainly isn't "like a rock." More like one of those floaty things you see in the air in June. Cottonwood, is it?
 
2008-07-24 7:51:21 AM  
i was comparing the mpg of my car to the mpb [miles per beer] when i walk or bike as a pledge i'd say i'd do if gas hit 3.50. i get only 4 mpb on the bike and since the cheapest six pack is 2.50 i'm basically paying the same as driving. walking, forget it. the cost per mile is thru the roof and i often don't get to my original destination but that's a different matter. and i'm drinking shiate beer.

bike or ride sober? driving sober is mind numbingly boring already. no way.
 
2008-07-24 8:09:19 AM  
Dear subby,

I'll blame him for doubling our national debt and allowing our dollar to crumble. Here's a spoon, please eat my ass.
 
2008-07-24 8:15:19 AM  
liberalish: bulldg4life: The price of gas has gone up 400% in 8 years and you are happy that it will only be up 350%?

Really?

Read that headline back to yourself and then punch yourself in the face.

um, yeah. came here to say that.

I would also like to point out that the attacks of 9/11/01 occurred under his "watch" (and numerous other attacks on US embassies and stations around the world), as did the subsequent recession, housing crisis, dollar crash, and oil price surge.

/George "At least gays can't get married in most states!" W. Bush


Although the planning for an attack the scale of 9/11 obviously started well before the Bush "regime" began, I do agree with all other points.
 
2008-07-24 8:22:19 AM  
RoyBatty: Hey subby, suck my cock.

Well said.
 
2008-07-24 8:26:00 AM  
ihatedumbpeople: liberalish: bulldg4life: The price of gas has gone up 400% in 8 years and you are happy that it will only be up 350%?

Really?

Read that headline back to yourself and then punch yourself in the face.

um, yeah. came here to say that.

I would also like to point out that the attacks of 9/11/01 occurred under his "watch" (and numerous other attacks on US embassies and stations around the world), as did the subsequent recession, housing crisis, dollar crash, and oil price surge.

/George "At least gays can't get married in most states!" W. Bush

Although the planning for an attack the scale of 9/11 obviously started well before the Bush "regime" began, I do agree with all other points.


What happened on 9/11/01?
 
2008-07-24 8:29:45 AM  
Bendal: Now's the time when the government should raise the federal gas tax; the money's desperately needed by the states to maintain and build highways.

But yes, everyone saying "wow, $3.50/gallon gas isn't all that bad" is exactly what the gas companies were hoping you'd say. Remember a few years ago when gas jumped up to $3.00/gallon, then fell back to "only" $2.75? Same thing happened then too. Prices tend to fall in midsummer, then rise again as Labor Day gets near.

/nothing different this year
//except for $4/gallon gas
///too high


Been telling my wife the exact same thing...they're conditioning us for expensive fuel. We "got used to" $2 gas, so $1.50 wasn't bad. We "got used to" $2.50 gas, so $2 was a bargain. We "got used to" $3 gas, so $2.50 was a steal. Soon some folks will think $3.50 is a bargain. Until gas hits $4.50 and $4 seems like a bargain.

We moved to C'ville, VA in 2003 and I remember gas being $1.329 a gallon. A scant 5 years later it's $3.89 (after a 10 cent drop in the past week from $3.99). When I graduated in '95, gas was $1.20 in GB, WI. So we're talking an increase of 12 CENTS in 7 years, then $2.60 in another 5 years.

Honestly though, I'm really mixed on the whole thing. While I'd love to see cheap gas again, in the long run expensive fuel is the only thing that's going to push us towards alternative energy sources, solar panel covered roofs and cleaning up the environment. Think of how much energy the country would save if we all had solar panels and some batteries for our homes. Good god.
 
2008-07-24 8:34:33 AM  
oldebayer: Wait until people have to buy heating oil this winter. You can drive less, but it's hard to heat your house less when there's global cooling a-raging.

My new apartment includes heat. :)
 
2008-07-24 8:48:57 AM  
Gwendolyn: Whamdangler: You're, um, happy with the fact that gas at $3.50 would be triple what it was when Bush took office?

I came here to say this very thing. It's still three times more farking expensive than is was a few short years ago.


and doubled since the latest class of Congress has taken session.
 
2008-07-24 8:51:48 AM  
Bush is starting to take the air out of whatever speculative bubble there might have been. I am a bit annoyed by the party line, 'There are no speculators!' but whatever.

On this issue at this time the Republicans are more right than the Democrats, who seem to be relying on research that won't pan out for another 30 years and are beholden to environmental interests that want us to return to the Stone Age. I want to see more drilling and the proceeds from said drilling to build a rail network and research/prizes to alternative energy.

With that said, the Iraq war and Iran sabre-rattling are 100% Republican problems.

Bush had 8 months to be notified about 9/11 -- on the other hand President Gore probably would've taken terrorism a bit more seriously between 1/20 and 9/10. the warnings from Democratic holdovers were ALL ignored and there is NOTHING Republican apologists can say on that issue.

The only caveat is that rank-and-file Republicans seem to be thinking all this drilling will bring back $1.50 gas and SUVs. Maybe I'm reading people's moods wrong and a look over at Free Repbulic will disprove me.

The $1 gas of 1998 was due to the SE Asian crisis that even threw China and South Korea off their tracks and depressed worldwide demand. EL_FABREZ has it about right.

mysha, very interesting find about this SemGroup ... I am not sure how much $$$ it would take to pull a Hunt Brothers on the oil market.
 
2008-07-24 8:52:56 AM  
Nemo's Brother: Gwendolyn: Whamdangler: You're, um, happy with the fact that gas at $3.50 would be triple what it was when Bush took office?

I came here to say this very thing. It's still three times more farking expensive than is was a few short years ago.

and doubled since the latest class of Congress has taken session.


Obviously, then, the solution is President Obama dealing with a Republican Congress. Seemed to work well in the 1990s but I still think Obama's earned a couple years of a friendly Congress.
 
2008-07-24 9:06:34 AM  
Up till recently, I read those periodic reports from S&P and the Economist Intelligence Unit for the past few years. These analysts always said the oil price will drop due to the return of oil production level in some countries (Nigeria, Iraq, Venezuela, Russia). They have been saying the same damn thing when the oil price was $70/barrel.
 
hej
2008-07-24 9:07:29 AM  
In other news, gasoline is typically the most expensive during the summer. Which means it becomes relatively cheaper in the fall.
 
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