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(Wall Street Journal)   Obama meets with Iraqi foreign minister, assures him he won't pull out troops any time soon. In related news, Cindy Sheehan spotted pounding her head on a sidewalk   (online.wsj.com) divider line
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2008-06-18 4:45:34 PM  
Seeing as how Obama isn't the President...and has no chance of being the President until at least January...I'd say it's a pretty good bet that he will not be pulling the troops out of Iraq any time soon.
 
2008-06-18 4:54:35 PM  
jerry2a: Seeing as how Obama isn't the President...and has no chance of being the President until at least January...I'd say it's a pretty good bet that he will not be pulling the troops out of Iraq any time soon.

Not to mention his plan has a 15-month timeline starting in January
 
2008-06-18 5:12:31 PM  
Still one of the better "attacks" the neocons have in their arsenal... "See ? See? He wants to do the kind of stuff we agree with !! See ? We still hate him though, even if he is agreeing with us !! See ?"
 
2008-06-18 5:35:44 PM  
Sheehan would make an excellent Veep choice.
 
2008-06-18 5:40:53 PM  
Rupert's ownership is starting to show
 
2008-06-18 5:48:53 PM  
Mordant: Still one of the better "attacks" the neocons have in their arsenal... "See ? See? He wants to do the kind of stuff we agree with !! See ? We still hate him though, even if he is agreeing with us !! See ?"

The smell of their desperation is making me feel like happy in my no-no place.

/*throb*
 
2008-06-18 5:57:53 PM  
BearToy:
The smell of their desperation is making me feel like happy in my no-no place.

/*throb*


Now that's some seriously delayed gratification. Eight years is a long time to have unhappy "no-no" parts.
 
2008-06-18 6:04:17 PM  
That tears it! Now I'm definitely not gonna vote for him...!
 
2008-06-18 6:07:09 PM  
When she was slamming her head on the sidewalk, do you think it made that same hollow "bonk" noise that Larry and Curly's heads made when Moe bashed them together?
 
2008-06-18 6:11:58 PM  
Nabb1: When she was slamming her head on the sidewalk, do you think it made that same hollow "bonk" noise that Larry and Curly's heads made when Moe bashed them together?


When you hold her head up close to your ear, you can hear the ocean.

Or so I've been told...
 
2008-06-18 6:25:29 PM  
No one here actually read the article, did they?
 
2008-06-18 6:36:54 PM  
Cagey B: No one here actually read the article, did they?

You mean the part that wasn't in TFA at all where Obama "assures him he won't pull out troops any time soon" right?
 
2008-06-18 6:39:15 PM  
Those who do want America to win in Iraq would no longer have to vote against Obama for that reason. As for those who want defeat, where would they go?

OK, I realize that this is an opinion piece and all, but when you start talking about "those who want defeat" you may as well hit the caps lock and start in on the super-secret Muslim/Communist/Atheist whitey-hating shtick...all your credibility has just evaporated anyway.
 
2008-06-18 6:52:42 PM  
Um, that wasn't in the article.
 
2008-06-18 7:37:35 PM  
"And, you know, let's take the example of Guantanamo," Obama said in the interview. "What we know is that, in previous terrorist attacks--for example, the first attack against the World Trade Center--we were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial."

yay torture centers!
 
2008-06-18 7:43:49 PM  
jbeatty: Rupert's ownership is starting to show

Taranto's been like that for a while. WSJ lead opinion editor is still Paul Gigot, who was a big Bush and Iraq War fluffer.

Having Rupert around just makes their job a bit more secure -- until Rupert thinks there's less money in rah rah Republicanism.
 
2008-06-18 8:24:47 PM  
She really should be going for the 'round the house suicide by head smashing as featured in the craptastic The Happening Failing, I think. Much better style.
 
2008-06-18 8:28:06 PM  
That is some good subby fail right there.
 
2008-06-18 8:29:22 PM  
Consultation is another word for lip-service.

"That's a marvelous idea, I'm going to give it top priority!"
 
2008-06-18 8:30:11 PM  
robsul82: Um, that wasn't in the article.

It sort of was, but you'd have to take about four logical leaps to arrive at that statement.
 
2008-06-18 8:30:58 PM  
Ghost Rider: That tears it! Now I'm definitely not gonna vote for him...!

As opposed to McCain that would be keeping them there until 2030-2040?
 
2008-06-18 8:31:16 PM  
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My son would have hated me for this
 
2008-06-18 8:31:24 PM  
Mordant: Still one of the better "attacks" the neocons have in their arsenal... "See ? See? He wants to do the kind of stuff we agree with !! See ? We still hate him though, even if he is agreeing with us !! See ?"

Uh, where in the thread do you see that?
 
2008-06-18 8:32:59 PM  
DoWhatNowToWhat: As opposed to McCain that would be keeping them there until 2030-2040 2108?

Do I have to change your diaper, too?
 
2008-06-18 8:32:59 PM  
Edsel: robsul82: Um, that wasn't in the article.

It sort of was, but you'd have to take about four logical leaps to arrive at that statement.


I have to guess what the guy speaking was referring to. And I don't like guessing! I hate guessing, almost as much as I hate Sean Avery.
 
2008-06-18 8:34:54 PM  
It's only flip-flopping when the guy you don't have a hard on for does it.
 
2008-06-18 8:37:18 PM  
robsul82: almost as much as I hate Sean Avery.

Heeey, watch it now.

/Potvin sucks
 
2008-06-18 8:38:44 PM  
Edsel: robsul82: almost as much as I hate Sean Avery.

Heeey, watch it now.

/Potvin sucks


Sean Avery's the physical manifestation of pure evil. For some reason, Elisha Cuthbert has an evil fetish.
 
2008-06-18 8:39:20 PM  
cameroncrazy1984: Not to mention his plan has a 15-month timeline starting in Januar

You're a joke. "Combat brigades" are simply going to be renamed "counter-terrorist brigades," along with a host of other tricks to twist reality.
 
2008-06-18 8:39:51 PM  
NYZooMan: It's only flip-flopping when the guy you don't have a hard on for does it.

Obama has always been for a measured withdraw...
 
2008-06-18 8:43:14 PM  
sacrileg: NYZooMan: It's only flip-flopping when the guy you don't have a hard on for does it.

Obama has always been for a measured withdraw...


Oh no he hasn't. He's always been for whatever the right-wing thinks will lose him votes -- including measured withdraw, that will piss off the anti-war base. That sneaky Muslim.
 
2008-06-18 8:44:02 PM  
Edsel: robsul82: Um, that wasn't in the article.

It sort of was, but you'd have to take about four logical leaps to arrive at that statement.


Which is strangely how we ended up in Iraq in the first place.
 
2008-06-18 8:46:31 PM  
Mr. Obama said that "if there would be a Democratic administration, it will not take any irresponsible, reckless, sudden decisions or action to endanger your gains, your achievements, your stability or security. Whatever decision he will reach will be made through close consultation with the Iraqi government and U.S. military commanders in the field."

Well, that settles that. "Mr. Prime Minister? Hi, it's Barack. Lieutenant Phelps is here with me. We just wanted to let you know that we've decided you guys are in great shape, so we're pulling out next month, which should give you plenty of time to get ready. Consider yourself closely consulted. Bye."
 
2008-06-18 8:47:36 PM  
Could it be that Obama is planning to pivot? That is, what if he goes to Iraq and declares upon his return that he has been persuaded that the surge has made a difference, that things are going much better, and that he is now convinced victory is both possible and crucial?

This is old news. I read it in

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2008-06-18 8:51:57 PM  
sacrileg: NYZooMan: It's only flip-flopping when the guy you don't have a hard on for does it.

Obama has always been for a measured withdraw...


In other words, meaningless platitude.
 
2008-06-18 8:53:14 PM  
NYZooMan: It's only flip-flopping when the guy you don't have a hard on for does it.

bzzzzzzt!

It's only flip flopping when someone changes their position. This statement does not represent any change to Obama's stated position, ergo, no flip flop.
 
2008-06-18 8:55:07 PM  
NYZooMan: sacrileg: NYZooMan: It's only flip-flopping when the guy you don't have a hard on for does it.

Obama has always been for a measured withdraw...

In other words, meaningless platitude.


Yep, when you're demonstrably wrong, just go for the nonsensical statement as a dodge. That will work!
 
2008-06-18 8:55:17 PM  
jerry2a: Seeing as how Obama isn't the President...and has no chance of being the President until at least January...I'd say it's a pretty good bet that he will not be pulling the troops out of Iraq any time soon.

that would be truly classy of him.
 
2008-06-18 8:56:17 PM  
Why in the name of all that makes any farking sense would we want to extricate ourselves from about the only thing keeping us from really holding a crap hand at the global dominance poker table? Russia and the rest of the nuevo riche oil tards don't give two flying farks about you or your Uncle Vinny and Aunt Louise. This poker game has people throwing in deeds to their nation and all sort of other balls out bets. Not for the timid. Hear that demodumasses who would have us cock in hand during this economically scary transition period out of the fossil fuel conundrum. Aint happening over night. Not wise to fold with that Ace right here.
 
2008-06-18 8:57:59 PM  
Wait you mean he ISN'T going to just evacuate every single US soldier on his first day in office, Saigon style, and allow Iraq to devolve into complete civil war, anarchy and an occupied territory of Iran?

Well that's very disappointing. A gradual controlled withdrawal with the possibility of return if necessary is just so incredibly dull and reasonable.
 
2008-06-18 9:00:39 PM  
Cyborg77,
No he was all ready to surrender during the dark days. Now that things are looking up he's ready to kick some ass pardner. I am so proud to be able to identify with the noble and honorable democrats.
 
2008-06-18 9:02:20 PM  
Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Not for the timid.

I'd bet Obama would kick McCain's ass at poker.
 
2008-06-18 9:05:08 PM  
NYZooMan: sacrileg: NYZooMan: It's only flip-flopping when the guy you don't have a hard on for does it.

Obama has always been for a measured withdraw...

In other words, meaningless platitude.removing one or two combat brigades a month until all of our troops are brought home (approx. 16 months), not building any permanent bases, and only leaving enough troops to guard our embassies and diplomats.
Link

FTFY

/after all, that is what you meant, right?
//right?
 
2008-06-18 9:05:39 PM  
but what about change and hope and all that jazz...?
 
2008-06-18 9:08:01 PM  
On the downside, he would risk alienating those among his supporters who crave defeat in Iraq, either for ideological reasons or out of sheer hatred for George W. Bush.

Yeah, that's why people oppose the war. Idiot.
 
2008-06-18 9:08:10 PM  
NYZooMan
blang flash kapow zoodle drip wroink
 
2008-06-18 9:11:13 PM  
More of the same McC.... O'Bama.

You see, it's not about Democrat or Republican at all. Same shiat, different day.
 
2008-06-18 9:14:39 PM  
Mr. Obama said that "if there would be a Democratic administration, it will not take any irresponsible, reckless, sudden decisions or action to endanger your gains, your achievements, your stability or security. Whatever decision he will reach will be made through close consultation with the Iraqi government and U.S. military commanders in the field."
 
2008-06-18 9:17:40 PM  
Cyborg77
Wait you mean he ISN'T going to just evacuate every single US soldier on his first day in office, Saigon style, and allow Iraq to devolve into complete civil war, anarchy and an occupied territory of Iran?

that would be worse than it is now?
 
2008-06-18 9:20:00 PM  
Almost forgot Venezuela and Nigeria. Hugo is all set to send all us Americans some free oil but he needs addresses. In Nigeria, your participation in a programme to remove monies from a financial institution may allow you finances necessary to purchase gas.

So again, it's obvious that the rest of the world is like it's always been, a fount of charity waiting to help out the good ole USA. Iraq and all that light sweet crude. Let the Chinese have a crack at it. They are nice folks. Real nice. See how they operate their oil fields in the Sudan. Real solid moral people.

The world is wonderful place and Obama's going to just get the USA up to the rest of the world's sparkling standards.
 
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