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2008-06-02 7:49:05 PM  
I've been saying this for years: those granola eating hippies are just new school capitalists. give me back my $.29 sloppy joe.
 
2008-06-02 7:49:37 PM  
They're just going to spend it on safety things such as bubble-wrap dresscodes. You know, because the issues of kids falling and getting hurt are more drastic than the current child obesity epidemic.

/Hey, Florida can do it
//Decent food in my high school, but I remember the salads in middle school being really shiaty
 
2008-06-02 7:53:31 PM  
shooboxx77: GypsyJoker: My daughter would sometimes take fruit, cheese, and some pretzels for lunch. One of the school officials claimed that wasn't healthy enough, and bullied her into eating a bite of a fish sandwich. My wife is allergic to fish (don't know about our daughter; she won't eat it and we're not pushing it). Needless to say, when we found out about it, hilarity ensued.

The school's retort: without a sandwich, it's not a healthy lunch.

So she got a peanut-butter sandwich one day and had to eat in a separate room because of fears of peanut allergies.

/changing schools

have you considered home schooling? not that im a proponent of such things...but sometimes...it just seems like a good option. That is one bat shiat crazy school you have there.



Yeah, we considered it. Unfortunately, it's not feasible right now, with the wife finishing up her Ph.D and working full-time, and me finishing two MAs and getting ready to start a Ph.D. As much as I'd consider home-schooling an option, it'd be really tough time-wise, and I don't want my daughter getting shortchanged educationally because Mom and Dad are going nuts with their own educations. There are good schools in the area, though, and we've got our daughter lined up for one of them.
 
2008-06-02 7:53:41 PM  
Agent19: PARENTS.

ARE.

SUPPOSED.

TO.

FEED.

THEIR.

OWN.

KIDS.


Amen.

But what are you going to do? Throw them in jail? Make them pay fines? Take the kids away and have foster families raise them? For some things you just have to suck it up and try to minimize the impact idiots have on their children.

Feh. The more I think about it, the more sense pre-procreation intelligence testing makes.
 
2008-06-02 7:56:33 PM  
Agent19: PARENTS.

ARE.

SUPPOSED.

TO.

FEED.

THEIR.

OWN.

KIDS.


Got kids?
 
2008-06-02 7:56:52 PM  
shooboxx77:
I have a seven year old boy giant robot, who while not immune to typical childhood pickiness interface conflicts, would rather have a lot of healthier foods pure energy cells than junk a radioactive hotboost. Cause we exposed him to many different types of food energy sources from a young age inception. He also gets a bag lunch cargo pod every day for school with the same stuff in it nearly everyday: pb&j sammich, fresh fruit (apple, orange or banana), crackers constant-output fuel cells, some sort of "treat" (fruit snack or one cookie dilithium crystal nuggets). It isn't the perfect healthy lunch recharge, but he likes it it keeps him operational and its a damn bit better than anything he would be served at school Giant Robo Academy.



Fixed!
(so bored...)
 
2008-06-02 7:57:35 PM  
I had a salami sandwich on a kaiser roll with taco flavored doritos everyday - cause I wanted it - and everyday someone always attempted to trade.
 
2008-06-02 7:59:05 PM  
jakomo002: Hmmm. My wife and I wake up a little early in the morning to put together the kids' lunches. I'd say it for two lunches it takes an average of 7 minutes total.

I guess that's waaaaay too complicated and time-consuming, considering that it means that when we go shopping on Saturdays we always pick out the kids' lunches for the week.

People should honestly take parenting classes.


That used to be called Home Economics, back when Hoem Ec had somethign to do with running a household.
 
2008-06-02 8:00:08 PM  
Abattur: It does not matter how damn nutritious the food is, those little bastards want their burgers and pies.

Which is why burgers and pies should not be on the menu. There's one thing served, you will eat it and STFU.

/least that's how it was
 
2008-06-02 8:01:50 PM  
I'm shocked, shocked to find that the government sucks at preparing healthy lunches.

I've got a great idea! let's put them in charge of health care too! That'd be GREAT!
 
2008-06-02 8:02:35 PM  
My girlfriend is a kindergarten teacher. The kids always check out what she's eating. She had fruit salad that she made herself. They didn't know what it was, nor what most of the fruit were. They're so vitamin-deprived that if you put fruit and junk in front of them, they go for the fruit.
 
2008-06-02 8:04:17 PM  
did someone say homeschool?

3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
 
2008-06-02 8:07:24 PM  
Okay Mister Smartypants: But what are you going to do? Throw them in jail? Make them pay fines? Take the kids away and have foster families raise them? For some things you just have to suck it up and try to minimize the impact idiots have on their children.

That, yeah. Particularly if you're looking at national statistics.

LargeCanine: That used to be called Home Economics, back when Hoem Ec had somethign to do with running a household.

If schools still required real Home Ec, it'd be interesting to have the kids take turns (by class) working in the school kitchen.
 
2008-06-02 8:08:43 PM  
Single White Male: Kids should just shut up and enjoy their lard burgers.

They actually do enjoy lard burgers. That's the problem. Ask a teenager, "What do you want to eat?" and "fries" is going to come in ahead of "an orange" any day of the week.
 
2008-06-02 8:09:19 PM  
B.S.! Been to the store lately? Healthy foods (fruit, veggies, whole grain anything) are way the hell cheaper than over processed junk food. I can buy bananas for pennies a pound. Apples, a bag for two bucks. Wheat bread's like a buck. Natural peanut butter (okay, not really health, but not sugar-laden like Jif or Peter Pan) they practically give away. The list goes on and on and on. Schools have a strange idea of what is healthy (fruit chunks soaked in sugar syrup, hamburgers, etc.). This article is total crap.
 
2008-06-02 8:09:33 PM  
RQB1018: I'm shocked, shocked to find that the government sucks at preparing healthy lunches.

No. The government (meaning actual lunch ladies hired by the actual school district making real food in a real kitchen) made perfectly fine standard home-cooking-style cafeteria school lunches. Meatloaf, potatoes, beans, that sorta thing. Hot lunch.

But lunch ladies are a relic of the past. Now, to save money, the schools have outsourced the "lunch" to the private sector, either plastic-wrapped trucked in "only need to microwave" "meals" from large contractors, or just gone directly with fast food delivery.
 
2008-06-02 8:10:37 PM  
It's nice to see how many people are saying that they give kids a brown bag with a plain sandwich, and apple, and milk and everything is fine. I have some bad news for you.

When I had to do lunch duty at our middle school, I saw what kids were doing with their healthy lunches...

Garbage can.

Sorry health nuts, you will usually give them $1.00 to get a fresh milk since your son or daughter wouldn't be caught with a freaking thermos, so they buy a soda before school, ditch the lunch (except for your snack or any trade-worthy goodie) and then mooch off some other ***SNARKY COMMENT DELETED*** kid who had their lunch bag filled to the hilt with sugar stuff.

When we banned soda in school lunch, they switched to Minute Maid 20oz high octane fructose drinks. No caffeine, but still pretty crappy.

Hey, I am not blaming you all for trying. Some of you succeed and it will save our healthcare costs lots in the future.

However, kids are smarter than you think and the garbage barrels are filled with vegetables, fruits, and good intentions.
 
2008-06-02 8:11:00 PM  
I wonder...what do Amish kids eat for school lunch...and how much does it cost.

Wal-Mart is reducing food costs by cutting out steps in the processes to acquire product.

With all the big brains in the school system, the best they can come up with is to reduce the quality and nutrition of the school lunches?

The problem is everyone always thinks inside the box for a solution that can only be found outside the box.
 
2008-06-02 8:12:24 PM  
Adjective Bird Whiskey: Anybody else get those "mexican" pizzas that were hexagonal and kind of tasted like a taco? I loved those things.

In my school they were called Fiestada. I think it has a pleasant ring to it. Then I transferred to a private school where there was no Fiestada and no one was allowed to bring their lunch because it was an insult to the food staff. Of course, there were no vegetarian options to speak of, so I had to sneak into an abandoned classroom everyday to eat my contraband veggie sandwich.
 
2008-06-02 8:12:40 PM  
Someone get MorePeasPlease a TotalFark membership please... Oh God. Just awesome.
 
2008-06-02 8:14:30 PM  
Squidgilum: They actually do enjoy lard burgers. That's the problem. Ask a teenager, "What do you want to eat?" and "fries" is going to come in ahead of "an orange" any day of the week.

I live a block away from an American high school. I have no idea what the school-served lunch there looks like, but they have an "open campus" meaning they can leave school during lunch.

Between my house and the school, there is a corner store, which is a full service Asian grocery with produce (mostly grown on a farm outside of town), meat, etc but also serves prepared food - Chinese food.

At least, it started as only Chinese food. Within a few months, it was Chinese food and FRIES, because the one thing all the kids always wanted was fries, and hey, if they'll pay for it, sure?

The owner was always laughing to me about that though, see these fat kids they always just want fries, fries, fries.
 
2008-06-02 8:15:16 PM  
Well let them eat cake?
 
2008-06-02 8:16:07 PM  
yagottabefarkinkiddinme: I wonder...what do Amish kids eat for school lunch...and how much does it cost.

Amish food is carb'n'lard heaven.

Thing is, most of them have physical labor jobs, which makes a big difference.
 
2008-06-02 8:16:37 PM  
So many many people without kids commenting...
 
2008-06-02 8:18:24 PM  
If schools still required real Home Ec, it'd be interesting to have the kids take turns (by class) working in the school kitchen.

Tha would be what they call Involuntary Servitude.

School food now is the same as it ever was, but now parents are apparently incapable of telling their snowflakes to stop cramming hohos and twizzlers into their pieholes.

/stop drinking gatorade fatty
 
2008-06-02 8:18:37 PM  
What do you mean, humans can't drink bio-fuel?

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2008-06-02 8:19:24 PM  
TheSwissNavy: Tha would be what they call Involuntary Servitude.

And?
 
2008-06-02 8:26:12 PM  
itazurakko: The owner was always laughing to me about that though, see these fat kids they always just want fries, fries, fries.

Yep. I live near a high school that has the same policy, and the gas station on the corner across from the school is, of course, also deep-fried heaven - corn dogs, chicken patties, and potato wedges - at exorbitant prices.

Precious snowflakes love the nasty grub.
 
2008-06-02 8:26:54 PM  
Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: So many many people without kids commenting...

Ah, yes. Kids.

The one and only subject in the entire freaking world where nobody is qualified to give ANY opinions or views unless they've had a kid.

Thank god abortion threads don't have any men commenting.

Thnak god threads on drug laws don't have anyone who hasn't been arrested for drugs commenting in them.

*rolls eyes*

You don't need to shiat out a twat turd to tell that the rotund little snowballs nowadays are eating like crap.
 
2008-06-02 8:30:34 PM  
itazurakko:

Oh, then Ramen noodles with rice cakes then.

My kids take their lunches to school. Sandwich peanut butter or jelly (strange little farkers huh), pop-tart, rice krispies treats, breakfast bars, chips. They won't eat the school lunch...but looking at the menu, I don't know why not.

Lasagna, salad. green peas, fruit roll

Pizza, french fries, mixed veggies, cake

Burritos, corn, cole slaw, pineapple, pudding

Mac& Cheese, Ham, mixed veggies, fruit roll

Corn dog, french fries, baked beans, peach cobbler

Spaghetti, salad, green peas, fruit, roll

Hot dog, tater tots, mixed veggie, cookie

Chicken patty, potatoes with gravy, carrots, fruit, roll

Taco with cheese, lett.& tomato, potato, cake

Turkey, noodles, cole slaw, green beans, fruit roll

Fish wedge, cheese grits, cole slaw, fruit, hush puppies,

Sloppy Joe sandwich, french fries, green peas, jello

veggies beef soup, peanut butter & jelly sandwich, salad, saltines, fruit

Pizza, french fries, steamed broccoli, cookie


/I'm hungry now.
 
2008-06-02 8:46:36 PM  
Bring back pronto pups!
 
2008-06-02 8:50:01 PM  
Was there ever a time school food was ever more than nominally better than prison food?

I doubt it.

Seriously though, the only way to change how the schools spend money is to change it on the district level. Good luck getting people to care about local politics (the things that actually effect them).

Go to town meetings, get involved, its your property taxes that pay for the lion's share of the school budget. If you don't like how they're spending it in your district and you've never tried to be the least bit involved, diaf. You have no right to complain.

/rage.... building.
 
2008-06-02 8:51:55 PM  
Researcher: Was there ever a time school food was ever more than nominally better than prison food?


I went to public schools growing up, and their food was better than the offerings at my private college.

IMHO, part of their problem is that they tried to be too fancy.

/But the custom-made omelettes were teh awesome.
 
2008-06-02 8:54:46 PM  
Here's your serving of vegetables.

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Maybe Reagan was on to something?
 
2008-06-02 9:04:24 PM  
Ha ha. "Third-World" school kids in Thailand eat a lot better than American kids.

Welcome to the "Fourth-World" biatches.
 
2008-06-02 9:06:48 PM  
Okay Mister Smartypants: @Abattur
It does not matter how damn nutritious the food is, those little bastards want their burgers and pies.

Yeah, but WHY do they only want burgers and pies?

Because that's all they ever eat at home. If they have reasonable diets at home, they'll choose it at school.

It all starts with the parenting.


Not 100% true... I worked for a nutritionist for 5 years... wanna guess how healthy my meals are? And what kind of snacks I give them? That's right, fruit and veg for snacks. One kid is a healthy weight and loves nutritious foods. The other kid would throw out her healthy lunch or sell it to other kids and buy junk food, and she'ss rather overweight. Without going down to the school myself or putting a "drunk ankle bracelet" type thing on her to keep her from eating junk, how am I supposed to keep her from doing that? I gotta work to feed em, so I can't be there to force them to eat what I try to feed em. I promise you, she didn't get her love of junk food at my house or from my example.

In ANY situation, there is only so much a parent can do. After that, kids will be who they are, period.
 
2008-06-02 9:11:31 PM  
The school lunch program was started because so many of the soldiers coming in during WWII had massive health issues due to malnutrition. I find it ironic that the current school lunch program may be contributing to malnutrition and obesity all at the same time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_lunch_program

At the school one kid attends they shut down the soda machines and closed the snack counter at the bookstore that sold poptarts to raise money for the band. That was their effort to make school lunches healthy. The actual school lunches are all deep fried, breaded reheated junk with gravy and wonder bread.
At the other kids school they served fritos with gravy as the only entree one day. The next week they served them batman branded hot pockets that had hit their expiration date a year earlier.
 
2008-06-02 9:12:10 PM  
God I hated the lunches in Florida. My Dad refused to give me money when I went to high school. He told me he grew his own food as a kid (he lived on a farm) and said I should be able to as well.

I ended up bringing one smashed PB&J sandwich to school every day for four years.

/it was heavenly.
 
2008-06-02 9:12:44 PM  
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I can feed 'em.
I can feed the little delinquents for less than it costs to feed the dogs.
If they don't like it, I tell 'em, don't come back!
 
2008-06-02 9:16:35 PM  
I find it fascinating that the more steps a food has been through (the more processed it is) the less expensive it becomes. If we process it a few more times, can we have it for free? If a Coca-Cola is $1.49 for a twenty ounce bottle and $.99 for a two liter bottle, at what point will they start paying me to take it home?
 
2008-06-02 9:16:59 PM  
piltdown: Here's your serving of vegetables.

Maybe Reagan was on to something?


Damn, I knew to look for that! Too bad the POTUS didn't actually think that. Link (new window)
 
2008-06-02 9:23:25 PM  
I have an idea!

Let's give millions of dollars to feed children in other countries!
 
2008-06-02 9:27:23 PM  
When are we as Americans going to abandon these useless "wars on..." things like drugs and terror; abandon the wars on things that cannot be defeated.

America needs a "War on Parents". Parents are one of the single biggest threats to the future of the United States, and they are also an easily classifiable group of people, can be rooted out, re-educated, and punished.

No politician in America has the balls to admit that parents are America's biggest problem. Parents need to be punished and reeducated in their responsibilities to their children. And for the nationalist disease-ridden segment of the population, parents need to be reeducated in their role in ensuring the future of an America that is a world leader.
 
2008-06-02 9:27:37 PM  
when i was in school (goddamnit i'm old) we had mini-pizzas, chalupas, tacos, and every other combination of fried beef, cheese, and/or corn you can think of. These things were undoubtedly made with snouts, asses/tails and intestines...nobody noticed the difference, and none of us were obese because of it.


go ahead and get rid of the health-food programs, it's not the reason they're all fatties in the first place.
 
2008-06-02 9:31:35 PM  
TOSViolation: I have an idea!

Let's give millions billions of dollars to feed bomb children in other countries!
 
2008-06-02 9:37:38 PM  
it's not the school food that makes the kids round. They sit around and play on their gameboxes and are not outside running around like we did when we were young.
 
2008-06-02 9:41:20 PM  
Oh man, Mrs. Chapmans home made rolls every day. The smell of fresh bread. Hamburger gravy. Veggies and the apple/orange crate daily. The choice was; what was served that day. French fries and mashed potatos were a once in a while thing - She had to peal and cut them up. The raw materials to make, "food", are not that expensive, but you have to pay a little to find a cook that can actually cook - not just handle a box cutter with flair.

We had one fat kid in school, now they have one skinny one.
 
2008-06-02 9:43:51 PM  
Kayefex:
Not 100% true... I worked for a nutritionist for 5 years... wanna guess how healthy my meals are?
...
In ANY situation, there is only so much a parent can do. After that, kids will be who they are, period.


Oh, totally. Not trying to imply that parenting was 100% to blame. But at least your kids know how to eat healthy, and it's a choice they are making not to (and will likely return to when they are older).

It's the kids who didn't know that you make pizza from dough and vegetables, or the ones who don't know that hamburger is ground up beef, or what to do with a raw potato that I weep for.

As long as there's some "cool kid" with a chocolate bar and a Rockstar for lunch, it'll be tough to get a kid to eat his veggies.
 
2008-06-02 9:48:40 PM  
itazurakko: RQB1018: I'm shocked, shocked to find that the government sucks at preparing healthy lunches.

No. The government (meaning actual lunch ladies hired by the actual school district making real food in a real kitchen) made perfectly fine standard home-cooking-style cafeteria school lunches. Meatloaf, potatoes, beans, that sorta thing. Hot lunch.

But lunch ladies are a relic of the past. Now, to save money, the schools have outsourced the "lunch" to the private sector, either plastic-wrapped trucked in "only need to microwave" "meals" from large contractors, or just gone directly with fast food delivery.



This, small towns for the win!

Lunch ladies still work at my old elementary school.

Those adorable blue hairs, they were always so cute and loved working around the kids.
 
2008-06-02 9:48:49 PM  
Kim Jong-il
When are we as Americans going to abandon these useless "wars on..." things like drugs and terror; abandon the wars on things that cannot be defeated.

America needs a "War on Parents". Parents are one of the single biggest threats to the future of the United States, and they are also an easily classifiable group of people, can be rooted out, re-educated, and punished.

No politician in America has the balls to admit that parents are America's biggest problem. Parents need to be punished and reeducated in their responsibilities to their children. And for the nationalist disease-ridden segment of the population, parents need to be reeducated in their role in ensuring the future of an America that is a world leader.


THIS.
 
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