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(Some Guy)   Michael Dukakis rises from the dead, says he knows everything there is to know about losing and Hillary will tank   (observer.com) divider line
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2008-04-30 6:13:27 AM  
Zombie Dukakis?
 
2008-04-30 6:54:33 AM  
Tank...get it tank...
 
2008-04-30 7:03:37 AM  
So, wouldn't listening to him be a bad idea?
 
2008-04-30 7:08:03 AM  
I visited a friend this November who was working in Des Moines on one of the Iowa caucus campaigns - they were working on the precinct level, like Dukakis wants nationwide. It's actually pretty crazy, the system the Democrats have. Every time someone calls you or knocks on your door, any issue or candidate preference you mention gets added into a giant database. That way, when they canvass, they print out street-by-street guides to the people living at each house (are they Dems, who did they say they liked in the past, what issues should they be sold on). After the primaries are over, all the data that the individual campaigns entered gets added together so that the final nominee can see it. I imagine that with competitive races in so many states, that this process is happening everywhere.
 
2008-04-30 7:24:07 AM  
Wow! Dukakis, Kerry, Ted Kennedy!

I see all the winners support Obama.

/Now if they could only get Walter Mondale to support Obama
//They would be the great wall of Presidential FAIL.
 
2008-04-30 7:25:14 AM  
Article in short :
"Get everyone to vote for you and you'll win".
 
2008-04-30 7:35:52 AM  
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2008-04-30 8:00:21 AM  
Number41

That's similar to the GOP program. The party hands out voter lists to canvassers identifying voters by party, their level of conservatism and their leanings on hot button issues, like god, guns, gays and taxes. I'm pretty sure alot of this info is gathered from other commercial databases like magazine subscriptions, non-profit/church memberships, political donations, etc.
 
2008-04-30 8:12:16 AM  
Dukakis is a good man, was a great governor, and would have been a great president. Dirty political tricks destroyed him.
 
2008-04-30 8:13:24 AM  
You know, Dukakis got a bigger share of the vote in 1988 than Bill Clinton did in 1992.

The only way a Dem has won in the last 30 years was to win is to split the GOP. Probably a raging fundie to draw votes from McCain.
 
2008-04-30 8:22:20 AM  
If Rev Wright had said that Obama would be disavowing it.
 
2008-04-30 8:26:03 AM  
acchief, Number41

They all do it that way. You'd be amazed about how precise they can be about targeting voters.

Oh, and I met Dukakis once at a fundraiser years ago. All I can say is that man is short. *Ridiculously* short. It was like posing for a picture with a 9 year old.
 
2008-04-30 9:15:25 AM  
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Oh.

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I see what you did there.
 
2008-04-30 10:15:42 AM  
Lawnchair: You know, Dukakis got a bigger share of the vote in 1988 than Bill Clinton did in 1992.

The only way a Dem has won in the last 30 years was to win is to split the GOP. Probably a raging fundie to draw votes from McCain.


What about Clinton in '96?
 
2008-04-30 10:26:09 AM  
acchief: Number41

That's similar to the GOP program. The party hands out voter lists to canvassers identifying voters by party, their level of conservatism and their leanings on hot button issues, like god, guns, gays and taxes. I'm pretty sure alot of this info is gathered from other commercial databases like magazine subscriptions, non-profit/church memberships, political donations, etc.


The repubs have had some sort of electronic data mining going on since at least 68. If I remember correctly, the Nixon campaign would take the information and devise special bulk mailings to hit the target audience the best.
 
2008-04-30 10:27:42 AM  
Tyrone Biggums: Lawnchair: You know, Dukakis got a bigger share of the vote in 1988 than Bill Clinton did in 1992.

The only way a Dem has won in the last 30 years was to win is to split the GOP. Probably a raging fundie to draw votes from McCain.

What about Clinton in '96?


Incumbency has its advantages. Still, not breaking 50% as an incumbent with a very healthy economy and reasonable (60%+ job approval) is kinda tepid.
 
2008-04-30 1:07:23 PM  
the_good_reverend_doctor: Wow! Dukakis, Kerry, Ted Kennedy!

I see all the winners support Obama.

/Now if they could only get Walter Mondale to support Obama
//They would be the great wall of Presidential FAIL.


Hey - Dukakis and Kerry at least did win the Dem nomination.

I'm seeing Obama v. McCain in the general election. (unfortunately, there are better choices but they aren't 'viable')
 
2008-04-30 1:38:49 PM  
Actually, Dukakis's advice here seems solid. He ran a very poor campaign, but I think the Democrats have learned not how to not repeat the same mistakes he did. Unfortuantly, they keep to coming up with unique, new ways to lose.
 
2008-05-01 2:54:40 AM  
I came here to say this.
When I was in 1st grade, the school had a fake election. We had two cardboard porto potty looking things that we had to go in and vote. One side was Bush and the other Dukakis. I was the only kid who voted for Dukakis. 1st grade sucked.
 
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