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(Yahoo)   Russia honors Laika, the dog who was the first living being sent into space. Also the first to die in space, but they aren't celebrating that part   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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2008-04-13 9:55:36 AM  
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I'D RATHER HAS STEAK
 
2008-04-13 10:10:26 AM  
I did not know, until now, that Laika died during the flight.
 
2008-04-13 10:32:09 AM  
Died from stress and overheating. Poor puppy.
 
2008-04-13 11:07:30 AM  
Died in space?

I heard recently that she likely didn't even make it into orbit, that she likely died from extreme anxiety at lift-off.
 
2008-04-13 11:11:37 AM  
Poor dog. Intended to die from the start, as Sputnik 2 was not a retrievable space craft. All in the name of "science" and politics.

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2008-04-13 11:13:28 AM  
She died of anxiety after a few days in orbit, if memory serves.

I still wanna go to Russia and kick every scientist involved whose still living square inna nuts. You shouldn't use animals for anything you wouldn't do yourself.
 
2008-04-13 11:22:57 AM  
doglover: She died of anxiety after a few days in orbit, if memory serves.

I still wanna go to Russia and kick every scientist involved whose still living square inna nuts. You shouldn't use animals for anything you wouldn't do yourself.


get over yourself.
 
2008-04-13 11:37:36 AM  
My old band's song about Laika (pops).
 
2008-04-13 11:37:46 AM  
Dog wasnt patriotic enough to survive reentry.
 
2008-04-13 11:38:58 AM  
doglover: I still wanna go to Russia and kick every scientist involved whose still living square inna nuts. You shouldn't use animals for anything you wouldn't do yourself.

you first.
 
2008-04-13 11:45:04 AM  
People don't realise (they certainly didn't realise then) that Russia was actually way behind in the space race. The only reason they could launch a satelite, or a man into space was that they had bigger rockets for launching their heavier nuclear weapons.

On every count their technology was worse. The space race was just another bomber gap.
 
2008-04-13 12:03:46 PM  
doglover: I still wanna go to Russia and kick every scientist involved whose still living square inna nuts. You shouldn't use animals for anything you wouldn't do yourself.

I love dogs too, but I'm not going to put a person through some sort of dangerous and experimental technology without first send a few animals through for testing. Go ahead, come over here and kick me in the nuts as hard as you can. Thankfully, plenty of animals were used in medical experiments that I won't have too much of a problem at the hospital. :)
 
2008-04-13 12:11:34 PM  
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Great album.

/obscure?
 
2008-04-13 12:16:04 PM  
They should've used a cat.
 
2008-04-13 12:26:22 PM  
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2008-04-13 12:34:31 PM  
ftfa: "Gagarin's 108-minute mission in orbit was the first manned flight into space and dealt a severe blow to the prestige of the Soviet Union's Cold War rival, the United States."

Oh come on, was that really necessary Mr. Reuters Guy?
 
2008-04-13 12:44:08 PM  
actually, they fed the dog poison before it took off.
 
2008-04-13 12:58:24 PM  
Mr Logo:
On every count their technology was worse. The space race was just another bomber gap.



we must not allow a mineshaft gap!
 
2008-04-13 1:01:55 PM  
nosajghoul: Dog wasnt patriotic enough to survive reentry.

LOL
 
2008-04-13 1:17:43 PM  
portscanner: Mr Logo:
On every count their technology was worse. The space race was just another bomber gap.


we must not allow a mineshaft gap!


Goddamn it - 19 posts and you already beat me to it.

/You can't fight in here - this is the war room!
 
2008-04-13 1:22:47 PM  
Manic_Repressive: Great album.

/obscure?


Great band, try all their albums. Good night music!
 
2008-04-13 1:25:16 PM  
Disappointed that no-one has referenced "Find an Egg".

doglover: She died of anxiety after a few days in orbit, if memory serves.

I still wanna go to Russia and kick every scientist involved whose still living square inna nuts. You shouldn't use animals for anything you wouldn't do yourself.


Word.

picturescrazy: doglover: I still wanna go to Russia and kick every scientist involved whose still living square inna nuts. You shouldn't use animals for anything you wouldn't do yourself.

I love dogs too, but I'm not going to put a person through some sort of dangerous and experimental technology without first send a few animals through for testing. Go ahead, come over here and kick me in the nuts as hard as you can. Thankfully, plenty of animals were used in medical experiments that I won't have too much of a problem at the hospital. :)


Because the ends justify the means, right?
 
2008-04-13 1:43:59 PM  
apeiron242: You shouldn't use animals for anything you wouldn't do yourself.

Word.


Are you insane? I shouldn't use a dog to catch a rat because I don't want bite the rat myself? I shouldn't use a mouse to test genetic research, but instead experiment on humans? I shouldn't eat a steak, but instead gnaw upon my own fatty muscle tissue?

Get a farking grip, hippie. I suppose your shoes are made of leather from your own holy farking skin.

/animals are cool, but christ, how about a bit of pragmatism to go with your mindless ideology?
 
2008-04-13 2:00:02 PM  
"The Soviet Union shall be first to land on the moon! Let the capitalist pigdogs worry about being the first to come back from the moon."
 
2008-04-13 2:00:17 PM  
People don't realise (they certainly didn't realise then) that Russia was actually way behind in the space race. The only reason they could launch a satelite, or a man into space was that they had bigger rockets for launching their heavier nuclear weapons.

They were also ahead in spacecraft technology in the late 50s and early 60s. The US passed them with the Gemini program while they were struggling to develop Soyuz.
 
2008-04-13 2:06:53 PM  
I blame Tori Amos.
 
2008-04-13 2:23:54 PM  
It was only the first animal in space if you define "space" as starting pretty high up. There were fruit flies sent into space 10 years earlier.

Laika was the first animal to go into orbit around the Earth.

Wikipedia article on the subject
 
2008-04-13 2:38:36 PM  
Superjew: /animals are cool, but christ, how about a bit of pragmatism to go with your mindless ideology?

This.

I love animals... but if sacrificing an animal will help or save humans, I'm all for it.
 
2008-04-13 2:48:01 PM  
BlackArt: I blame Tori Amos.

Heh.

/Line secure
 
2008-04-13 2:48:39 PM  
ganpachi: My old band's song about Laika (pops).

I prefer this (new window)


/yes, I know it's not about the dog
 
2008-04-13 3:55:51 PM  
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/i know the article is about a dog, but still
//love that pic
 
2008-04-13 3:59:43 PM  
FeBolas: Superjew: /animals are cool, but christ, how about a bit of pragmatism to go with your mindless ideology?

This.

I love animals... but if sacrificing an animal will help or save humans, I'm all for it.


somwhat this?

After reading the space.com article (new window), I'm leaning towards kicking those involved in the nuts. They didn't send the dog up there to learn anything, but it was a PR stunt. Not food, not saving human life, but P.R.

If we are going to use animals for experiments, we have to treat the animals humanely.
 
2008-04-13 4:05:39 PM  
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2008-04-13 4:12:05 PM  
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/Now with less dyslexia
 
2008-04-13 4:15:32 PM  
I just hope the Soviet scientists treated Laika well before the experiment. Given that they had nicknames for her and took a number of pictures, I bet it was a little bit hard for them. Being a dog, Laika'd probably have forgiven them and given many licks and happy tail-wags upon landing. And since she's so famous, I'm willing to bet there are a lot of St. Francis prayers said for her rest and entrance into dog heaven.

/Dog heaven has lots of meat-covered bones, children to play with and tennis balls that fly through the air at random; plus big patches of sun to lie in and huge meadows.
//Cat heaven is similar, with little old ladies with warm laps and laser pointers instead of the tennis balls.
///yeah, Laika's in dog heaven, playing with my Nana's old collie.
//Overly-sentimental SLASHIES!
 
2008-04-13 5:00:53 PM  
doglover: She died of anxiety after a few days in orbit, if memory serves.

I still wanna go to Russia and kick every scientist involved whose still living square inna nuts. You shouldn't use animals for anything you wouldn't do yourself.


Most of them are old and retired at best, more likely dead. You might have better luck with the NASA guys that did more or less the same thing with monkeys, I think the US might have a slightly longer average lifespan for the educated than the former USSR.

Also, no. Human life is inherently more valuable than animal life. And unless you're gonna stop consuming cooked/pasteurized food in order to save the poor parasites and viruses, you're a huge bloody hypocrite for suggesting otherwise. Hell, for eating anything but fruit, you'd still be a hypocrite.

//Grains? Destroying an unborn organism. Leafy greens? Ripping off the limbs/generative organs of a helpless creature. You bastard.
 
2008-04-13 5:34:05 PM  
Human life is inherently more valuable than animal life
Ummm....humans are animals. That dog had a one way ticket. There was no plan for bringing her back and no euthanization either. From the latest I've read she was a stray they brought into the program a couple days before launch. I'll bet there were no provisions made for her waste products. It breaks my heart.
 
2008-04-13 5:51:22 PM  
These eco-nuts won't be happy until we're all back living as vegetarian cave men, allowing ourselves to be eaten by our local super predator until we become extinct.

I say this as a real ecologist, not a species-traitor.

HINT: If you aren't driving other species out of your niche, and expanding your niche range, you're doing it wrong.

ANOTHER HINT: Coexistence is possible, but we ARE going to damage our environment by living in it. Minimizing the damage we do and limiting future population growth to manageable levels is the key.
 
2008-04-13 5:52:33 PM  
Mr Logo: People don't realise (they certainly didn't realise then) that Russia was actually way behind in the space race. The only reason they could launch a satelite, or a man into space was that they had bigger rockets for launching their heavier nuclear weapons.

On every count their technology was worse. The space race was just another bomber gap.


You are ridiculous. The Russians always built down to purpose, resulting in cheaper, shoddier looking but far simpler and effective technology. The idea that they were only ahead because of their ICBM development is correct, and the US was only behind for the same reason. They were first at everything except the moon, and still have the only reliable means of delivering people into space. Also there are two l's in satellite.
 
2008-04-13 6:09:26 PM  
Jim_Callahan: Most of them are old and retired at best, more likely dead. You might have better luck with the NASA guys that did more or less the same thing with monkeys, I think the US might have a slightly longer average lifespan for the educated than the former USSR.

I doubt it was scientists' idea. How about kicking Gorby's or Lenin's nuts since everybody else is dead?
/Lenin's nuts
//assuming they still with him
///pretty sure Gorby and his nuts are still together
 
2008-04-13 6:17:14 PM  
NO, YOU CAN'T SEE MY NUTS
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NOT YOU

 
2008-04-13 6:52:44 PM  
picturescrazy: doglover: I still wanna go to Russia and kick every scientist involved whose still living square inna nuts. You shouldn't use animals for anything you wouldn't do yourself.

I love dogs too, but I'm not going to put a person through some sort of dangerous and experimental technology without first send a few animals through for testing. Go ahead, come over here and kick me in the nuts as hard as you can. Thankfully, plenty of animals were used in medical experiments that I won't have too much of a problem at the hospital. :)


angelfire.com

"Why does all the crap we consume have to be tested on animals first? A rat doesn't wear lipstick, okay, a rabbit doesn't use hairspray, a monkey doesn't need pills to get ramped up for hot monkey sex! It's people, man! We're miserable! So why shouldn't we try it all first?!"
 
2008-04-13 7:57:31 PM  
Dog's revenge, as NASA is now pondering a Manned Mission to Mars, a ONE WAY manned mission to mars. They're looking for Volunteers!

Heh.
 
2008-04-13 9:08:57 PM  
To people that don't like the idea of sacrificing animals in the pursuit of new technology, medical or otherwise.

If you have been to a hospital and taken any medicine there, or any meds outside the hospital for that matter, congratulation you are a hypocrite.

If you have ever bought any fragrance product, cleaner, detergent, or basically anything in the cleaning aisle, congratulation you are a hypocrite.

If you've ever received any type of psychological treatment, congratulations you are a hypocrite.

If you're not a vegetarian your a hypocrite, really how cognitively dissonant can people be?

etc.etc.etc.etc......
 
2008-04-13 9:13:34 PM  
Good job comrade Laika, you make the common man proud. Those capitalist pigs fought over animal rights, and you brought glory to our nation.
 
2008-04-13 9:23:01 PM  
video man: Good job comrade Laika, you make the common man proud. Those capitalist pigs fought over animal rights, and you brought glory to our nation.- Link

Actually use "capitalist pigs" oink oink, used a monkey .."On June 11, 1948, a V-2 Blossom launched into space from White Sands, New Mexico carrying Albert I, a rhesus monkey. Lack of fanfare and documentation made Albert an unsung hero of animal astronauts. On June 14, 1948, a second V-2 flight carrying a live Air Force Aeromedical Laboratory monkey, Albert II, attained an altitude of 83 miles. The monkey died on impact. On August 31, 1948, another V-2 was launched and carried an unanaesthetized mouse that was photographed in flight and survived impact. On December 12, 1949, the last V-2 monkey flight was launched at White Sands. Albert IV, a rhesus monkey attached to monitoring instruments, was the payload. It was a successful flight, with no ill effects on the monkey until impact, when it died."

.. its always been a strong point about America that we say one thing and do the totally opposite. Don't get me wrong I could care less about animal rights (animals which are not human of course), its just that I bet half the people biatching are doing it while watching Animal planet on a leather chair while eating a juicy hamburger, its that kind on cognitive dissonance that pisses me off.
 
2008-04-13 9:58:52 PM  
Even in an obvious troll attempt, I learn something. Thanks sip111.
/PeTA can still suck it hard though.
 
2008-04-13 10:00:33 PM  
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2008-04-13 10:22:07 PM  
Good night, spacedog.
 
2008-04-13 10:35:45 PM  
SpiderQueenDemon: I just hope the Soviet scientists treated Laika well before the experiment. Given that they had nicknames for her and took a number of pictures, I bet it was a little bit hard for them.

Yeah, that was my concern as well, but I've read that she was treated very affectionately by the people who were training her. She was also a stray dog that was found near the space labs, so it could be argued that she had a better and maybe even longer life in the labs than she would have on the streets of Russia.

Still a sweetly sad story though, and she was a cute little thing. She looks kind of noble in some of the photos of her.
 
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