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(NBC4.com)   While waiting for SCOTUS' ruling on the D.C. gun ban, D.C. police while away the time by asking all law-abiding citizens to submit to voluntary searches for firearms. Resistance is futile, citizens   (nbc4.com) divider line
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Brillig
2008-03-25 5:54:29 PM  
You have the right to bare arms.
 
GaryPDX
2008-03-25 5:55:09 PM  
Holy Mother of Dog! WHAT a bunch of crap!
 
curmudge
2008-03-25 5:59:30 PM  
Yes you can search my home, when you provide a warrent signed by a judge, otherwise Not So Much.
 
Burninate
2008-03-25 6:00:29 PM  
actually submitter it would appear that resistance is anything but futile
 
R.A.Danny
2008-03-25 6:00:58 PM  
Less a Second Amendment Issue than a Fourth, but what a bunch of a-holes they are.
 
flucto
2008-03-25 6:11:40 PM  
If weapons are recovered, they will be tested and destroyed if they are not found to be linked to any other crimes.

A police spokeswoman said that if evidence of other crimes is found during voluntary searches, amnesty will be granted for that crime as well.

"Chief Lanier has been clear," Traci Hughes said. "Amnesty means amnesty."

Riiiight. So if ballistics proves that a recovered gun has been used in multiple homicides they'll just ignore it. Riiiiiiight.
 
damageddude [TotalFark]
2008-03-25 6:17:03 PM  
Police are asking residents to submit to voluntary searches in exchange for amnesty under the District's gun ban.

Amnesty? So they're guilty until proven innocent? Got to admit, that's much more efficient. If only there were a peace of paper with, oh I don't know, a bill of rights maybe, that said something different.
 
Catracks
2008-03-25 6:21:15 PM  
"Chief Lanier has been clear," Traci Hughes said. "Amnesty means amnesty."

Yeah, sure, whatever. So you say whilst trampling all over the second and fourth amendments.

No guns for you to protect yourselves citizens. Those of us in congress however will have armed security and some of us will have concealed weapons in holsters, purses and briefcases for our protection.
 
dj_bigbird
2008-03-25 6:23:57 PM  
damageddude: Police are asking residents to submit to voluntary searches in exchange for amnesty under the District's gun ban.

Amnesty? So they're guilty until proven innocent? Got to admit, that's much more efficient. If only there were a peace of paper with, oh I don't know, a bill of rights maybe, that said something different.

In DC the mere presence of a gun in a home is effectively a crime.
 
Castimirr
2008-03-25 6:31:58 PM  
So, right now if you want to kill someone all you have to do is wait for a search team, then allow them to search your home and claim amnesty for the murder they uncovered? This isn't even ment as snark, I really wonder what they would say to that, and how they would try to explain that it doesn't really mean anything.
 
give me doughnuts [OhFark]
2008-03-25 6:33:11 PM  
"May we search your home?"
"Do you have a warrant?"
"No."
"No, you may not."

It's that simple.
 
truth_is_stranger_than_fishin
2008-03-25 7:22:12 PM  
Thats certainly one way to cut down on the shooting of politicians
 
2wolves [TotalFark]
2008-03-25 7:29:17 PM  
Which part of "voluntary" didn't you butt munchers comprehend?
 
dj_bigbird
2008-03-25 7:32:23 PM  
2wolves: Which part of "voluntary" didn't you butt munchers comprehend?

That's why you put "voluntary" in quotes. Because it's not necessarily "voluntary" when cops show up at your door and ask to go rummaging thru your stuff.
 
BobtheFascist
2008-03-25 7:33:04 PM  
Since it's voluntary I assume you could voluntarily tell them to shove it up theur azz, too.
 
2wolves [TotalFark]
2008-03-25 7:38:42 PM  
dj_bigbird:

That's why you put "voluntary" in quotes. Because it's not necessarily "voluntary" when cops show up at your door and ask to go rummaging thru your stuff.

Sure the fuk is.

The quotes were used as I was quoting the HL. I'll get a flashlight and lead you by the hand next time.
 
dj_bigbird
2008-03-25 7:43:24 PM  
2wolves: The quotes were used as I was quoting the HL. I'll get a flashlight and lead you by the hand next time.

You haven't seen many of the cop threads/stories on fark, have you? Or read anything about the conduct of cops (in general) recently, have you? Cops are law unto themselves.
 
Party Boy
2008-03-25 8:00:19 PM  
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2wolves [TotalFark]
2008-03-25 8:00:29 PM  
dj_bigbird:

You haven't seen many of the cop threads/stories on fark, have you? Or read anything about the conduct of cops (in general) recently, have you? Cops are law unto themselves.

You're attempting humor? Check my profile.
 
SilentStrider
2008-03-25 8:04:42 PM  
give me doughnuts: "May we search your home?"
"Do you have a warrant?"
"No."
"No, you may not."

It's that simple.

This.
 
2wolves [TotalFark]
2008-03-25 8:07:15 PM  
SilentStrider: give me doughnuts: "May we search your home?"
"Do you have a warrant?"
"No."
"No, you may not."

It's that simple.

This.

^
 
Party Boy
2008-03-25 8:28:36 PM  
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Don't Tase Me Bro
2008-03-25 8:33:28 PM  
FTA: Officers will go door to door asking residents for permission to search their homes.

I saw this on COPS the other night, except it was a car they wanted to search: the driver said no, they figured out a way to arrest him, and then searched the car "incident to arrest."

give me doughnuts: "May we search your home?"
"Do you have a warrant?"
"No."
"No, you may not."
...continued, in real life:
"And you are..." (checks clipboard) "John Q. Homeowner?"
"Yes..."
"There is an old warrant for your arrest; failure to appear in traffic court. You're under arrest. We will now search your home, incident to arrest, for officer safety."
 
2wolves [TotalFark]
2008-03-25 8:38:22 PM  
Don't Tase Me Bro:

give me doughnuts: "May we search your home?"
"Do you have a warrant?"
"No."
"No, you may not."
...continued, in real life:
"And you are..." (checks clipboard) "John Q. Homeowner?"
"Yes..."
"There is an old warrant for your arrest; failure to appear in traffic court. You're under arrest. We will now search your home, incident to arrest, for officer safety."

Outstanding misdemeanor warrant and you do that? Guess what? I own you, I own your department, I am now a majority stockholder in your state/jurisdiction.
 
IrishDrunk [TotalFark]
2008-03-25 8:40:51 PM  
SCOTUS is an improper acronym. It's not the Supreme Court of the United States, it's the United States Supreme Court.

/at least, that's what I was always taught.
 
R.A.Danny
2008-03-25 8:41:27 PM  
2wolves: Outstanding misdemeanor warrant and you do that? Guess what? I own you, I own your department, I am now a majority stockholder in your state/jurisdiction.

You will be rich after they sit your ass in the can for 3 years. Is that a tradeoff a "free" person should be offered?
 
nobozo
2008-03-25 9:25:09 PM  
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Anything you say Jeri.
 
King Something [TotalFark]
2008-03-25 10:23:54 PM  
IrishDrunk: SCOTUS is an improper acronym. It's not the Supreme Court of the United States, it's the United States Supreme Court.

/at least, that's what I was always taught.

SCOTUS is a bit easier to pronounce than USSC, and less likely to be confused with the University of South Carolina.
 
Danger Avoid Death
2008-03-25 10:50:36 PM  
King Something: IrishDrunk: SCOTUS is an improper acronym. It's not the Supreme Court of the United States, it's the United States Supreme Court.

/at least, that's what I was always taught.

SCOTUS is a bit easier to pronounce than USSC, and less likely to be confused with the University of South Carolina.

USSC is the University of Southern Southern California. It's in Mexico.
 
I Said
2008-03-25 10:50:43 PM  
Eh, they are within their rights to ask as the citizen is within his/her right to deny entry, no?
 
The LooseCannon
2008-03-25 10:50:49 PM  
Didn't this just happen in Boston?
 
eff ewe
2008-03-25 10:51:11 PM  
King Something: IrishDrunk: SCOTUS is an improper acronym. It's not the Supreme Court of the United States, it's the United States Supreme Court.

/at least, that's what I was always taught.

SCOTUS is a bit easier to pronounce than USSC, and less likely to be confused with the University of South Carolina.

It also sounds a bit like "scrotums"...
 
Darkridr
2008-03-25 10:51:13 PM  
They can search my house when they bring by the sexy naked vacuuming cop women (brunettes and redheads only please).
 
Shaggy_C
2008-03-25 10:51:17 PM  
Resisting a VOLUNTARY search sounds pretty damn tough, subfailure.
 
captivity
2008-03-25 10:52:07 PM  
Danger Avoid Death: King Something: IrishDrunk: SCOTUS is an improper acronym. It's not the Supreme Court of the United States, it's the United States Supreme Court.

/at least, that's what I was always taught.

SCOTUS is a bit easier to pronounce than USSC, and less likely to be confused with the University of South Carolina.

USSC is the University of Southern Southern California. It's in Mexico.

I thought it was the United States Suprine Core Corps
 
Remove all Republicans
2008-03-25 10:52:20 PM  
dj_bigbird: 2wolves: Which part of "voluntary" didn't you butt munchers comprehend?

That's why you put "voluntary" in quotes. Because it's not necessarily "voluntary" when cops show up at your door and ask to go rummaging thru your stuff.

But it's for a good reason! They're just trying to get rid of guns!
 
erichard08
2008-03-25 10:54:04 PM  
You have the right to bare arms!!! if you don't like D.C law move to TEXAS!!!
 
sycocowz
2008-03-25 10:54:24 PM  
SCOTUS is modeled after POTUS, in theory as well as reality.
 
Remove all Republicans
2008-03-25 10:54:37 PM  
dj_bigbird: damageddude: Police are asking residents to submit to voluntary searches in exchange for amnesty under the District's gun ban.

Amnesty? So they're guilty until proven innocent? Got to admit, that's much more efficient. If only there were a peace of paper with, oh I don't know, a bill of rights maybe, that said something different.

In DC the mere presence of a gun in a home is effectively a crime.

So, it's (1) voluntary search, gun, amnesty or (2) no voluntary search, police assume there's a gun, pretend to hear a noise, exigent circumstances, gun, jail. What a choice!
 
The LooseCannon
2008-03-25 10:55:01 PM  
This could create an interesting precedent. Are gun bans legal in the 50 states? No. But in DC? Possibly.

Why? Because the copies of the 2nd Amendment as voted on by Congress differ to the copies distributed to the several States back in the late 1700s.
 
Danger Avoid Death
2008-03-25 10:55:17 PM  
eff ewe: King Something: IrishDrunk: SCOTUS is an improper acronym. It's not the Supreme Court of the United States, it's the United States Supreme Court.

/at least, that's what I was always taught.

SCOTUS is a bit easier to pronounce than USSC, and less likely to be confused with the University of South Carolina.

It also sounds a bit like "scrotums"...

Which, given the wrinkles, is somehow appropriate.
 
Wulfman
2008-03-25 10:56:16 PM  
I thought it was the United States Suprine Core Corps

Ahem. I saw that.
 
MonkeyBoy666
2008-03-25 10:56:38 PM  
captivity: I thought it was the United States Suprine Corps

Diana Ross (and the rest of The Supremes) are too old to send out on missions now. Someone would break a hip in the first 15 minutes.
 
Man On Pink Corner
2008-03-25 10:57:36 PM  
Yes, gun control is great. Let's give the police a monopoly on firepower. What could possibly go wrong?
 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2008-03-25 10:58:10 PM  
R.A.Danny: Less a Second Amendment Issue than a Fourth, but what a bunch of a-holes they are.

Don't muddy the issue. As long as people are worried about their guns, they won't be asking about pesky things like warrants and probable cause.
 
natas6.0
2008-03-25 10:58:25 PM  
Let me make the argument that the area is a district, and not actually part of the United States.
Therefore it doesn't come under any of the local, state, or federal laws regarding hunting or human rights.
All persons in the area will be given 22 minutes to vacate.

game on
 
MonkeyBoy666
2008-03-25 10:58:35 PM  
The LooseCannon: Why? Because the copies of the 2nd Amendment as voted on by Congress differ to the copies distributed to the several States back in the late 1700s.

I thought it'd be because DC isn't, technically, a state. They didn't have any representation in the US government, nor even a local government, until fairly recently (in terms of US history at least).
 
PawisBetlog
2008-03-25 10:59:00 PM  
I would say its a dead heat between the idiot that thought up this idea and the dumbass in the thread above this that tried carjacking in the jail parking lot.

Too close for me to call a winner.
 
MonkeyBoy666
2008-03-25 10:59:55 PM  
natas6.0: Let me make the argument that the area is a district

10 seconds from a simulpost.
 
Spoonfed'sBuddy
2008-03-25 11:00:49 PM  
If a man's 4th amendment rights are trampled in favor of removing his 2nd amendment rights, does the ACLU give a damn?
 
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