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(Wired)   "The researchers didn't test on a live pacemaker wearer. Instead they put the target device into a bag of meat, which is much the same thing." In related news, never go grocery shopping with a scientist   (blog.wired.com) divider line
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MasterThief
2008-03-12 1:21:18 PM  
Well, I suppose it's better than the Farker who put his "device" on his bag of meat.

/no way in hell I'm GIS'ing that
 
ThatGuyGreg
2008-03-12 1:27:47 PM  
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Not a body. Just bones and meat.
 
Bag-o-Nugs
2008-03-12 1:33:30 PM  
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"Retraction: Did I say that out loud? I apologize, master. While you are a meatbag, I suppose I should not call you as such."
"You just called me a meatbag again!"
"Explanation: It's just that... you have all these squishy parts, master. And all that water! How the constant sloshing doesn't drive you mad, I have no idea."
 
MrSinister
2008-03-12 1:39:49 PM  
or on a date with one.
 
xanadian [TotalFark]
2008-03-12 1:43:33 PM  
I remember the days when "hacking into your heart" required an axe, not a computer.

Strange days we live in...
 
lordargent
2008-03-12 1:51:32 PM  
"Disgusting, DISGUSTING, bags of mostly water."
 
Misch [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2008-03-12 2:14:14 PM  
I have a pacemaker and I'm not getting a kick out of these replies.

/srsly
//NOT AMUSED.
///okay, a little.
 
Sybarite
2008-03-12 2:25:48 PM  
Bag-o-Nugs:


HK-47 references are full of win.
 
fatal_exception
2008-03-12 3:06:52 PM  
I don't know how to feel about this. I mean it's cool but it's so not cool.
 
kntgsp
2008-03-12 3:08:09 PM  
ThatGuyGreg: Not a body. Just bones and meat.

Not a believable actress either.
 
bighairyguy [TotalFark]
2008-03-12 3:08:34 PM  
You got that right, meat bag!
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IamCeilingCat
2008-03-12 3:08:46 PM  
I can haz toasted meat?
 
Russ1642
2008-03-12 3:09:14 PM  
Time to exchange your tinfoil hat for a tinfoil vest.
 
Onager
2008-03-12 3:09:29 PM  
Anyone happen to know which company produces these things?
 
WorldCitizen
2008-03-12 3:09:30 PM  
Well, you are a bag of meat, ya know. And water. And you're an animal, too. Just sayin'.
 
theewhiterhino
2008-03-12 3:09:58 PM  
Misch: I have a pacemaker and I'm not getting a kick out of these replies.

/srsly
//NOT AMUSED.
///okay, a little.

Damn, me too. Medtronics, with the potential bum lead. Now this. A (currently) living breathing example of the old adage, "if I'd known I was going to live this long I'd have taken better care of myself"
 
WRDesign
2008-03-12 3:10:17 PM  
IamCeilingCat: I can haz toasted meat?

Meat on meat sandwich?

Um... I don't have a pacemaker. Always kind of try to be healthy enough to never have one... now I think i'll really try.

/Don't hack my pacemaker, bro!
 
TTBoyArDee
2008-03-12 3:10:19 PM  
Would also like to agree:
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Accent
2008-03-12 3:10:38 PM  
Man, I'd never thought of that before... I think I'm going to to play with my meat bag and electrodes and see what comes up.
 
gorgor
2008-03-12 3:10:47 PM  
Pace Maker? (new window)
 
twostep
2008-03-12 3:11:13 PM  
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approves.
/obscure?
 
Gonad the Ballbarian
2008-03-12 3:11:31 PM  
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/approves
 
Mayor Bee
2008-03-12 3:11:55 PM  
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"Negative, I am a meat popsicle."
 
FunkOut
2008-03-12 3:12:51 PM  
lordargent: "Disgusting, DISGUSTING, bags of mostly water."

Hah! First thing I thought of too.
 
politics Junkie
2008-03-12 3:13:47 PM  
I have been trying to run linux on my pacemaker.
 
TMBGfreak
2008-03-12 3:14:15 PM  
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Unimpressed
 
Accent
2008-03-12 3:14:29 PM  
why do my comments always get sammiched between pictures and links...

/mmm, meat-bag sammich
 
Mr Guy
2008-03-12 3:14:36 PM  
Just wait till the hackers get ahold of penis pumps.
 
Mayor Bee
2008-03-12 3:14:51 PM  
politics Junkie: I have been trying to run linux on my pacemaker.

oh, fsck.
 
WRDesign
2008-03-12 3:17:44 PM  
politics Junkie: I have been trying to run linux on my pacemaker.

[NERD]

Try a lighter distribution. I hear they're lower in cholesterol.

[/NERD]

What?
 
ThatGuyGreg
2008-03-12 3:17:54 PM  
kntgsp: Not a believable actress either

I fail to see your point.
 
X15
2008-03-12 3:18:59 PM  
Nice to see fark keeping up with it's usual high standard of dupe checking.

http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=3461574
 
Spider Dijon
2008-03-12 3:19:40 PM  
theewhiterhino
Misch: I have a pacemaker and I'm not getting a kick out of these replies.

/srsly
//NOT AMUSED.
///okay, a little.

Damn, me too. Medtronics, with the potential bum lead. Now this. A (currently) living breathing example of the old adage, "if I'd known I was going to live this long I'd have taken better care of myself"



You don't have to be old to get stuck with a pacer.

/Guidant's my brand.
//Can open my mouth + can hear breathy ticking, truly.
///Get patted down/fondled at airport security.
/// Live in fear of ever getting tasered, so I'm well behaved.
 
justanotherfarkinfarker
2008-03-12 3:20:06 PM  
Whoops. Wouldn't the SS be worried about this. I mean Robo VP could get hacked
 
OozoSoozo
2008-03-12 3:21:53 PM  
ThatGuyGreg:


I fail to see your point.


Ed zachary. If your bag of meat is shapely enough, who cares how well you act?

/ya don't need money with a face like that, do ya, honey
 
TypoFlyspray
2008-03-12 3:28:30 PM  
Well, let's see now, Mr. McGillicuddy. Pulse is 80, which is what we expect, temperature is 37 celcius - spot on that. Blood Pressure is 90/120, and you're medium rare. Please see the nurse for a baked potato and some parsley on the way out, and I'm perscibing a course of horseradish. If it doesn't get better in a couple of days, we'll see about bumping that up to mushroom gravy.

/ Whatever you do, don't try the veal
// I'll be here all week, though.
 
Pollexabator
2008-03-12 3:30:00 PM  
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I am intrigued this revelation and would like to request a more detailed information resource so that I might build my own version of your hack...
 
gnomercy
2008-03-12 3:32:48 PM  
Bag-o-Nugs: "Retraction: Did I say that out loud? I apologize, master. While you are a meatbag, I suppose I should not call you as such."
"You just called me a meatbag again!"
"Explanation: It's just that... you have all these squishy parts, master. And all that water! How the constant sloshing doesn't drive you mad, I have no idea."

I came here to say this... or at least use the HK meatbag reference.

As that has already been addressed, I shall resume my place in the corner.
 
Misch [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2008-03-12 3:34:00 PM  
X15: Nice to see fark keeping up with it's usual high standard of dupe checking.

Nice to see that you missed the "FOLLOWUP" tag on the story.
 
theewhiterhino
2008-03-12 3:34:02 PM  
Spider Dijon: theewhiterhino
Misch: I have a pacemaker and I'm not getting a kick out of these replies.

/srsly
//NOT AMUSED.
///okay, a little.

Damn, me too. Medtronics, with the potential bum lead. Now this. A (currently) living breathing example of the old adage, "if I'd known I was going to live this long I'd have taken better care of myself"

You don't have to be old to get stuck with a pacer.

/Guidant's my brand.
//Can open my mouth + can hear breathy ticking, truly.
///Get patted down/fondled at airport security.
/// Live in fear of ever getting tasered, so I'm well behaved.

Have you ever been zapped? Mine has gone off twice in error. It's the kind of thing that will really ruin your day. Especially if you're behind the wheel.

/never even thought about the taser thing. All the more reason to be a mellow fellow.
 
QT_3.14159
2008-03-12 3:35:14 PM  
Bag-o-Nugs: "Retraction: Did I say that out loud? I apologize, master. While you are a meatbag, I suppose I should not call you as such."
"You just called me a meatbag again!"
"Explanation: It's just that... you have all these squishy parts, master. And all that water! How the constant sloshing doesn't drive you mad, I have no idea."

Oh, HK picture! He was the first thing I thought of too... Does this mean we're moving the KOTOR discussion over here? :D

/Statement: Apathy is death
 
punto
2008-03-12 3:40:33 PM  
They're made out of meat? at least tell me they have a plasma brain inside their meat heads!
 
snake_beater
2008-03-12 3:42:36 PM  
Sounds like something the Mythbusters would do.

/maybe they should try this themselves
 
Thelyphthoric [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2008-03-12 3:43:09 PM  
Easier hack - big frikkin magnet

/Guidant 1297 since 2003
 
erewhon
2008-03-12 3:44:25 PM  
The 175kHz ones are H-field and you have to be really close. It's the MICS ones that you can do from a distance (several feet), so only you guys with the newer models need to worry much.

Weirdly enough, we use pork roasts when we do tests on implant prototypes. Which doesn't happen a lot, but it does happen.
 
rockysphere
2008-03-12 3:49:57 PM  
GIS for bag o meat wasn't so bad. I was actually a little disappointed.

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smask
2008-03-12 3:51:22 PM  
Don't need no hacking stuff to have fun with pacemakers.

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/Big capacitors
//Welding time measured in milliseconds
 
Treetop1000
2008-03-12 3:51:46 PM  
Thing I remember is the one old guy who cranked up the transmitter power by replacing the output transistors in his Saturn with much higher rated power transistors. Next thing we knew he was 10-55.
(dead)
Found out later that he'd had a pacemaker implanted, and they warned him about radio transmitters. Seriously warned him, but he didn't listen.
 
tuxq
2008-03-12 3:52:16 PM  
erewhon: The 175kHz ones are H-field and you have to be really close. It's the MICS ones that you can do from a distance (several feet), so only you guys with the newer models need to worry much.

Weirdly enough, we use pork roasts when we do tests on implant prototypes. Which doesn't happen a lot, but it does happen.

LF waves can travel quite a distance and propagate very predictably. These waves could very easily be amplified and/or directed at a victim from a distance. Now, if the particular attack required information to come back (2-way comm.), then yes, there would be a distance issue.... but for the sake of a Denial of Service (DoS That SoB!), it can very easily be done.

/ham radio nerd.
//linux nerd
///freebsd nerd
////nerd nerd
 
SiriuslyBlack
2008-03-12 3:52:22 PM  
I just got a Biotronik implanted last month. So now on top of worrying about my heart giving out I have to worry about some douchebag hackers with money to spend and nothing better to do.

/ does not approve
 
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