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(via Obscurestore)   Chicagoans attacking Real Worlders with paintballs   ( divider line
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4303 clicks; posted to Main » on 07 Aug 2001 at 9:11 AM (16 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2001-08-07 09:20:17 AM  
Yeah, let's try and destroy these corporate scumbags by giving them something to write press about and hype for the next 5 months. And while we're at it, let's give the melodramatic kids who desperatly want to live soap opera lives something to over react about.
2001-08-07 09:21:42 AM  
my faith in humans has been renewed,
GOD Bless You Chicago, God bless you.....
2001-08-07 09:24:36 AM  
Exactly. Let's give someone who owns a media outlet an opportunity to show themselves as victims. I can't imagine there'll be any "Real World Survivor" jokes along the way.

On that same note, didn't the Real World jump the shark after about the first season? I thought that show was dead already.
2001-08-07 09:27:42 AM  
Fark paintballs! Whip out the pellet guns! MTV is almost as evil as Zorin Industries.
2001-08-07 09:36:16 AM  
Didn't the phrase "jump the shark" jump the shark about four months ago?
2001-08-07 09:52:13 AM  
WTF, why can't these idiots pull there collective objectivness toward something more helpful, like helping there dam homeless situation, or solving world hunger. "HEY guys there breaking ground on the Starbucks down the street, RALLY UP"
2001-08-07 09:58:33 AM  
Man I hate that channel...
2001-08-07 10:14:07 AM  
Why Mme.Mersault you've got a mean streak. I like that!
2001-08-07 10:29:37 AM  
I was psyched before I saw what they were actually protesting. I'm only 31 - but if I were a real, dyed-in-the-wool protester from the 60's, this would make me sick.

I wish they would attack these kids with paint cans - full ones. Why anyone should be interested in their lives is beyond me.
2001-08-07 10:33:04 AM  
They always have the same people on that show. A virgin, a gay guy, a wanna be stud, a beauty queen, a redneck and a militant black person or persons. ::YAWN
2001-08-07 10:37:47 AM  
Maybe they aren't protesting the show so much as having to share the same air with 7 whiney bastards that think their lives are so tortured - as they live for free in some sweet digs after thier rich parents paid for them to get on the show.

"Oh, my nail polish is chipped! Life is SOOOOO HARD!"
(and that's just the men)
2001-08-07 10:47:09 AM  
I have been playing paintball for a lotta years now. The person shooting the paintballs is gonna f*uckup a good thing for fans of the game. If you wanna protest BURN THEM OUT! Or have a few good old fashioned street lynchings!

-Mr. Hyde...
2001-08-07 10:58:06 AM  
YES! Bring those bastards down! Down with MTV altogether, first it's paintballs at the real world, soon it will be battery acid thrown at Carson Daly MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
2001-08-07 11:02:02 AM  
If only you could get paintballs that are filled with watery poop, now that would be interesting.
Or you could hire monkeys to fling their crap at them.

Or, you get a bus full of "special" people to go and try to talk to them.
2001-08-07 11:05:29 AM  
Real World Blows

All reality TV is garbage. (except for Tough Enough)
2001-08-07 11:20:02 AM  
"These are the same group of anarchists who protested when Starbucks moved onto the block,"
hahahaha, they're calling them anarchists...hehehhehe
2001-08-07 11:22:22 AM  
I think there are probably bigger, more immediate issues to deal with in Chicago than protesting the Real World. Like someone else mentioned, maybe helping the homeless or something. The issues some of these people get worked up over amaze me. We actually had people protesting the opening of a new Old Navy in my town.
2001-08-07 11:38:44 AM  
"My kind of town Chicago is......."
Proud to say I grew up there and live right outside of it in a suburb at the moment.
As the Dead Kennedys once sang
"MTV get off the air !!!"
2001-08-07 11:38:47 AM  
Here's a good way to protest these companies:
Stop patronizing them! Stop buying their shiat! You think the pimply-faced teenager working in the Starbuck's gives a shiat about your 'protest' [laughable]? Now leave me alone so I can enjoy my Grande Mocha Java in peace.
2001-08-07 11:47:31 AM  
I love this. Cool, hip MTV with all their socially conscious, get out the vote, war on hate crime, ask Bill Clinton if he wears boxers or briefs dumb ass kids are now the target of these rebels without a clue.

Everybody is an idiot.
2001-08-07 11:52:33 AM  
Like someone else mentioned, maybe helping the homeless or something. The issues some of these people get worked up over amaze me. We actually had people protesting the opening of a new Old Navy in my town.

Why can't someone protest AND do "help the homeless" or whatever. Its not like you have to make a choice that gets stamped on your forehead.

The issue that is really working people over in Chicago and has been for a few years now is the gentrification of affordable and progressive-like neighborhoods. Your apartment is turning into a condo you can't afford, the southern suburbanites have been performing "white flight" for a decade and turning classic neighborhoods into strip malls. Small business is doomed by the fad and "wow factor" of stores like Starbucks which lasts long enough to undercut the earnings of small business.

Toss in increasing property taxes and the city kissing major corporate ass with its sweetheart deals and you DO have a major issue.

Whether or not you think gentrification is a problem or not is your opinion, but it is a real issue and affects real people.
2001-08-07 11:56:21 AM  
They did this in Seattle, too. I remember there were a couple of guys and girls wearing "Real World Sucks" on T-shirts, and they'd follow around the cast members/crew and make sure to get into the shot, rending it worthless for editors. Pretty clever stuff.
2001-08-07 11:59:58 AM  
Hey, I do both - I bought a Streetwise from a bum on my way to take pot-shots at the MTV cast & crew today...

I wish I would have heard about that freezer trick earlier though! Ah well, tomorrow is another day!
2001-08-07 12:54:31 PM  
hey charlie i caught a pretty SPIFFY show, the other night called "CANNONBALL RUN" good shait. try that too. on the usa network late at night.

you know how good the movie was,(place burt's sneaky chuckle here)
2001-08-07 01:07:21 PM  
Dom DeLuise: "Hee hee hee hee hee ho ha ho hee hee hee ha ha ho ho ho ha hee hee hee hee ha hee haw haw haw!"
2001-08-07 01:34:47 PM  
I live two blocks from the "real world" loft in bucktown. Some people in the neighborhood printed out professional looking MTV flyers that said stuff like "real world cast party tonight" "free beer & food" "everyone welcome" ...
They passed out these bogus flyers all over the neighborhood, in various bars, restaurants... It was hilarious!

There were hundreds of people out there going crazy! Shouting, throwing stuff... it was great! God I hate Viacom & MTV.
2001-08-07 01:49:22 PM  
I agree with Ham.
2001-08-07 01:55:03 PM  
MTV should change it's name to BSTV. The M is LONG GONE.
2001-08-07 02:32:48 PM  
for those of you who don't understand why these people are protesting, maybe you should try visiting a neighborhood that hasn't been gentrified yet by corporate monoculture. if there are any left near you.
2001-08-07 03:03:45 PM  
The best way to protest a predatory corporation like Starbucks is to not patronize it ... and then paintball the crap out of it.

These protestors are heroes.
2001-08-07 03:03:52 PM  
The real anarchy is when you and I refuse to patronize these cookie-cutter shops. They will close pronto.

And why wait until they displace local shops? Get out your pen, be polite but business-like, write the s.o.b.s and let them know in advance that you and your friends will NEVER buy anything from them. Do it again and again. Call the corporate hq and remind them via phone as well.

Basic economics kiddies.
2001-08-07 03:19:33 PM  
If you want a good real life television show, I say you should televise executions.
2001-08-07 03:30:33 PM  
if they wanna protest then rock on cuz they have my support
if i ever get a car im takin it right to new york to throw a farkin brick through the window during TRL
2001-08-07 03:33:58 PM  
Power to the people! Free Huey! Covad and Rhythms are filing Chapter 11 this month. Soon our only choice for DSL will be one of the now four recently merged baby bells. TV is controlled by a couple of major conglomerates, soon the internet will be as well. Don't you people see what is happening. Soon there will be two companies controlling everything--Aol/TimeWarner/Microsoft/Cisco/GE/GM/Exxon/Mobil/BP/Arco/E​nron/Par amount/Walmart/McDonalds/SBC/Intel/Ford/Safeway... and Bertelsman/Vivendi/Universal/DutchShell/Daimler/Chrysler/VW/Chevron/Du​keEnergy /Apple/HP/Viacom/Disney/Starbucks/Verizon/Motorola...

Yes, without eternal vigillance it can happen here.
2001-08-07 03:35:31 PM  
The problem, Walljasper, is that your economics are TOO basic. A company like Starbucks or Walmart has thousands of locations. If one particular store only brings in a 0.001% profit this year, it won't disable the corportation. The other stores making a larger profit will even it out and the entire company still makes money.

Meanwhile, if your mom and pop store turns a tiny fraction of a profit, and it is the only store you own, then you are screwed.

Starbucks is counting on the fact that with so many stores, enough are bound to make good profit to keep them growing. Why don't they close down the stores that don't turn a big profit? Well, as long as those stores stay open, they will in general (not always) force out competitors, little by little. Your mom and pop store can only stay open so long with a decreased profit margin. Then, once they close, the Starbucks is the only store on the street. Boom, no competition, and they clean up.

Another thing is, starbucks has more money to lobby politicians and government with. So they can get a decreased property tax (or tons of other benefits) while your store doesn't have enough power to do so.

So your simple economics aren't so simple anymore. We aren't dealing with a free market here. We aren't dealing with pure capitalism either.
2001-08-07 04:02:56 PM  
Theseus: Thank you! Big businesses get local subsidies in the form of tax breaks to relocate--think Boeing moving to Chicago. Big businesses also get regulatory help in the forms of barriers to entry--think FCC, FERC, etc. Big Businesses also get subsides at a national and international level--think coal companies receiving subsidies to convert coal to synthetic coal to be used as coal (great article on page one of Wall Street Journal about three weeks ago, I know, I should have saved it.). These breaks are often given as quid pro quo for campaign 'donations'. We do not have a free market system, and there is no such thing as 'simple economics'. Economic systems have innumerable variables at play and if someone could come up with a formula to emulate our economy they would make a fortune!
2001-08-07 04:08:56 PM  
actually, starbucks operates some stores at a loss intentionally. they just open them up so no other coffee shop will be able to get a foothold on that block. the profit from other stores makes up for it.

oh, and i pretty much don't patronize big corporations. most of the people in my house don't at all. i don't see them tumbling down, though.
2001-08-07 04:20:52 PM  
My point re: ecomonics was intended to be short and simple, not a thesus.

There are far more effective ways to protect our neighborhoods than with paintball guns.

Ideas anybody? Or are we going to circle-jerk with the usual "bash corporations" mentality? Sigh.
2001-08-07 04:43:51 PM  
idea= attend city board meetings which probally has some type of control over the zoning of big businesses
2001-08-07 04:54:32 PM  
WallJ: So why are you spending so much time here on fark when you could be practicing civil disobedience?
2001-08-07 05:33:45 PM  
Economics gets progressively simpler the more decisions you're in a position make.

Personally, I don't think that there is any "usual bash corporations" stuff going on. The usual behavior is that corporations like this one act in a predatory manner, and people and media are silent about it. This reaction is relatively rare, although increasingly common.

I consider this action to be a positive idea, and certainly nothing compared to the predation that they're protesting.
2001-08-07 05:54:29 PM  
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did someone say paintball?
2001-08-07 09:22:21 PM  

When it comes to civil disobedience (especially when you're bound to be used/abused by some prefacing interest group), I prefer to be the great lurker!
2001-08-07 09:23:06 PM  
PS: who the fark screwed up the margin control on the page again? Feh!
2001-08-07 10:55:41 PM  
Let's do it up, Agent.
Paintball rocks!
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