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(Yahoo)   Huffington Post: Don't listen to all that silly talk about the press being orgasmic over Obama -- they're actually heavily biased toward Hillary. In related news, let us reiterate that there is no such thing as media bias   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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2008-03-04 2:31:33 PM  
Liberal media bias doesn't exist.

I know this because someone on Fark told me so.
 
2008-03-04 2:37:35 PM  
media bias

So, media bias is wrong, unless it's in favor of Obama? OK.

Nothing silly at all about the media's kid gloves, Bush-like coverage of Obama. It's all very obvious.

It's a cyclical thing, actually. Build them up, tear them down. That's what news cycles do. That's what the media does. That's where the story of the moment is. Obama's turn on the stake is coming.

His fans shouldn't have made him out to be such a messiah type figure. Makes him a much better target. Especially if there are some shady dealings in his past.
 
2008-03-04 2:56:20 PM  
Hillary's campaign pulled yet another page from the right wing play book. By baselessly accusing the media of Obama bias the Clinton campaign made the media overreact and become overly critical of Obama. In the last month most newscasts I've seen on TV or heard on the radio start off by talking about how Clinton is ready to fight and here's her speech about it and then mentioning that there are lingering questions about Obama's experience or his political background or some BS Canadian memo.

If the media spent half the time reporting the skeletons in Clinton's closet that they spend trying to make Obama seem like a fad then Hillary wouldn't be anywhere near Obama in delegates.
 
2008-03-04 3:45:56 PM  
7of7: Hillary's campaign pulled yet another page from the right wing play book

jeez, it's always the GOP's fault, huh?

"The cook took a page from the republicans and burned my eggs"

Hillary and Bill and the top Democratic strategist they have working for them are very smart, very skilled, and very experienced in using any and all techniques to win an election. give them some credit for playing just as dirty as anyone else
 
2008-03-04 3:54:08 PM  
albo: jeez, it's always the GOP's fault, huh?

No, it's not always the GOP's fault. In this case, however, it clearly is the GOP's tactic. The GOP long ago figured out that they could accuse the media of liberal bias without providing any evidence which caused the media to overreact and cater to conservatives while minimizing liberal ideas.
 
2008-03-04 4:10:17 PM  
Is there going to be a primary thread any time soon?

/threadjack
 
2008-03-04 4:11:05 PM  
Reality has a well known liberal bias. If Hillary is getting more guff from the press, its because she deserves it?

/more experience?
//crying to win a primary?
///waiting till the 11th hour to whine about a mailing?
////ripping the democratic party apart to win?
//LEAVE HILLARY ALONE
 
2008-03-04 4:12:07 PM  
absoluteparanoia: Reality has a well known liberal bias. If Hillary is getting more guff from the press, its because she deserves it?

/more experience?
//crying to win a primary?
///waiting till the 11th hour to whine about a mailing?
////ripping the democratic party apart to win?
//LEAVE HILLARY ALONE


She's not exactly a cliche liberal.
 
2008-03-04 4:12:15 PM  
The media has a well-known bias toward laziness and telling oft-told tales in new form. They don't really care that much about pushing a political POV (with a few notable exceptions, such as Fox).
 
2008-03-04 4:14:01 PM  
The press has a bias toward ratings.
 
2008-03-04 4:14:20 PM  
Mr_Fabulous: The media has a well-known bias toward laziness and telling oft-told tales in new form. They don't really care that much about pushing a political POV (with a few notable exceptions, such as Fox).

Who are the other two?
 
2008-03-04 4:15:17 PM  
7of7: albo: jeez, it's always the GOP's fault, huh?

The GOP long ago figured out that they could accuse the media of liberal bias without providing any evidence which caused the media to overreact and cater to conservatives while minimizing liberal ideas.


I see someone has never read the Baltimore Sun.
 
2008-03-04 4:15:54 PM  
SharkUW: Is there going to be a primary thread any time soon?

/threadjack


Will go to main in an hour. Or shell out $5 and join the hilarity right now.
 
2008-03-04 4:15:56 PM  
Mr. Anon: The press has a bias toward ratings.

Thread over.
 
2008-03-04 4:17:30 PM  
barneyfifesbullet: His fans critics shouldn't have made him out to be such a messiah type figure. Makes him a much better target. Especially if there are some shady dealings in his past.
 
2008-03-04 4:17:51 PM  
Crunchy Frog: SharkUW: Is there going to be a primary thread any time soon?

/threadjack

Will go to main in an hour. Or shell out $5 and join the hilarity right now.


Nah. you biatches need to pay for me. I'm unemployed.
 
2008-03-04 4:18:32 PM  
SharkUW: absoluteparanoia:
She's not exactly a cliche liberal.

Yes she is.

The problem is that she went from media Darling until this Obama guy came along and took her spot! To be fair, McCain gets a lot of love from the press to, especially for an R...perhaps because he angers conservatives and the media seems to like that.
 
2008-03-04 4:18:45 PM  
I used to want to vote for Obama, but the Democrats seem bent on letting Hillary destroy their party.

McCain 08
 
2008-03-04 4:20:10 PM  
kuhns_m: I used to want to vote for Obama, but the Democrats seem bent on letting Hillary destroy their party.

McCain 08


So you're going to vote for McCain even if Obama is nominated and you prefer Obama over McCain?
 
2008-03-04 4:20:30 PM  
* General electric owns 80% of NBC. (NBC, in turn, owns 80% of MSNBC.)

* Saturday Night Live is on NBC.

* SNL is biased toward Hillary Clinton.

* General Electric is biased toward war.

* GE wants HRC to win the Democratic nomination.

GE prefers McCain to win in November, or HRC as an acceptable #2 choice.
 
2008-03-04 4:21:20 PM  
Its not News, Its The HuffPo!
 
2008-03-04 4:23:06 PM  
Obama comes off as remarkable naive on the issues. His webpage is full of pie-in-the-sky idealism, and I can't believe the media isn't calling him on it.
 
2008-03-04 4:23:29 PM  
SharkUW: Nah. you biatches need to pay for me. I'm unemployed.

Get a job hippie. Then you can be cheap like me and not pay for TF.
 
2008-03-04 4:24:07 PM  
"the facts have a pro-Obama bias"
THIS


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2008-03-04 4:24:19 PM  
subset sum: * General electric owns 80% of NBC. (NBC, in turn, owns 80% of MSNBC.)

* Saturday Night Live is on NBC.

* SNL is biased toward Hillary Clinton.

* General Electric is biased toward war.

* GE wants HRC to win the Democratic nomination.

GE prefers McCain to win in November, or HRC as an acceptable #2 choice.


I'd love to see an amount of "degrees" played out between the Dow and S&P standards to each candidate. I'm sure it would be interesting.

/considering doing it
 
2008-03-04 4:24:43 PM  
SharkUW
Pretty much.
It goes from she's got to win big, to she's got to win both states, to she's got to win one.
She is going to stay in it no matter what and chuck dirt for the next 7 weeks. No thanks.
 
2008-03-04 4:24:53 PM  
subset sum: * General electric owns 80% of NBC. (NBC, in turn, owns 80% of MSNBC.)
* Saturday Night Live is on NBC.
* SNL is biased toward Hillary Clinton.
* General Electric is biased toward war.
* GE wants HRC to win the Democratic nomination.
GE prefers McCain to win in November, or HRC as an acceptable #2 choice.


that's just, well...amazing. did you think that up at the ron paul rally?
 
2008-03-04 4:27:09 PM  
albo: subset sum: * General electric owns 80% of NBC. (NBC, in turn, owns 80% of MSNBC.)
* Saturday Night Live is on NBC.
* SNL is biased toward Hillary Clinton.
* General Electric is biased toward war.
* GE wants HRC to win the Democratic nomination.
GE prefers McCain to win in November, or HRC as an acceptable #2 choice.

that's just, well...amazing. did you think that up at the ron paul rally?



GE->SNL->RAND corp->reverse vampires... Am I forgetting anyone?
 
2008-03-04 4:27:11 PM  
kuhns_m: It goes from she's got to win big, to she's got to win both states, to she's got to win one.
She is going to stay in it no matter what and chuck dirt for the next 7 weeks. No thanks.


I really really hope that the one state she wins is Rhode Island. I'd love to hear her try and spin winning the smallest state in the union is somehow a mandate for her to stay in the race when she lost two of the biggest on the same day.
 
2008-03-04 4:28:19 PM  
kuhns_m: SharkUW
Pretty much.
It goes from she's got to win big, to she's got to win both states, to she's got to win one.
She is going to stay in it no matter what and chuck dirt for the next 7 weeks. No thanks.


Fair enough. I'm still a bit confused though. The standard tends to be to stay home on election night when a person is disgusted with the system as opposed to farking themselves (assuming you actually prefer Obama over McCain).
 
2008-03-04 4:28:38 PM  
barneyfifesbullet:
His fans shouldn't have made him out to be such a messiah type figure. Makes him a much better target. Especially if there are some shady dealings in his past.


They didn't, it's the people like yourself that did.
 
2008-03-04 4:28:46 PM  
HuffPo speaks the truth. CNN has had a bias favoring Hillary during the primaries.

If Obama wins something, the CNN headline is like, "Hillary camp changes strategies".

CNN chooses to include superdelegates in the delegate count to make it look like Hillary is doing better than she actually is.

Just go to cnnpolitics.com and look at the links: "Hot Topics >> Election Center 2008, The Political Ticker, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, more topics..."

Unless the junior senator from Illinois goes by the nickname "more topics...", I wouldn't say there a favorable bias toward him.
 
2008-03-04 4:29:25 PM  
SharkUW: She's not exactly a cliche liberal.

My point is that Obama is more liberal, and more likable.
 
2008-03-04 4:30:01 PM  
Douchebag Warehouse: Am I forgetting anyone?

the stonecutter-trilateral commission ad hoc secret executive jewish cabal task force on secretely messing up our life
 
2008-03-04 4:30:58 PM  
The media's based towards a horse race, which increases ratings, which increases ad sales, which increases money.

Thus, how Clinton's winning Ohio tonight (which I think will happen, it sucks, but) will be spun as Comeback Kid II and not "While Hillary won Ohio's popular vote, the delegate count was split pretty much evenly, which means she's really no closer to closing the pledged delegate gap with Obama as before, and she's running out of states in which to do that."

I mean, I've already seen the media lay down the groundwork for this, namely Scarborough on MSNBC last night saying "If Clinton wins one of the two big ones, the race goes back to zero." WTF, that's not even CLOSE to being correct.
 
2008-03-04 4:31:24 PM  
absoluteparanoia: SharkUW: She's not exactly a cliche liberal.

My point is that Obama is more liberal, and more likable.


Yah, I have a habit of ignoring slashies sometimes. My bad.
 
2008-03-04 4:32:07 PM  
Not to mention HuffPo's point of CNN clearly being biased in favor of Hillary (not that that stopped Tina Fey and the SNL crew from insisting the last CNN debate was an Obama jerkoff session) is completely correct.
 
2008-03-04 4:32:29 PM  
The "main stream press" (I feel dirty for using that phrase) has a bias towards sales. If they can create a nice scandal involving Obama they will get a lot of sales (through ads or circulation). The fact that they have not been able to find anything more interesting to report on is a pretty good sign.
 
2008-03-04 4:32:30 PM  
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Could she look any MORE like Satan?
 
2008-03-04 4:34:11 PM  
robsul82: Not to mention HuffPo's point of CNN clearly being biased in favor of Hillary (not that that stopped Tina Fey and the SNL crew from insisting the last CNN debate was an Obama jerkoff session) is completely correct.

Every debate is a jerkoff session. I wouldn't hold it against any particular station. The candidates won't show up if it isn't agreed that it will be. There's always somebody willing to shove a camera in their face.
 
2008-03-04 4:35:37 PM  
kuhns_m: I used to want to vote for Obama, but the Democrats seem bent on letting Hillary destroy their party.



She is getting approximately 50% of the vote. She has a legitimate "right" to stay in the race. Kucinich, Sharpton and whatsherface were in the debates last time for no real reason. Hillary should stay in the race. Of course, I am for McCain
 
2008-03-04 4:36:01 PM  
I'm waiting for someone in the anti-Obama crowd to start claiming his voters think of him as Jesus. Some of the straw-men seem to be heading in that direction.
 
2008-03-04 4:37:11 PM  
SharkUW: robsul82: Not to mention HuffPo's point of CNN clearly being biased in favor of Hillary (not that that stopped Tina Fey and the SNL crew from insisting the last CNN debate was an Obama jerkoff session) is completely correct.

Every debate is a jerkoff session. I wouldn't hold it against any particular station. The candidates won't show up if it isn't agreed that it will be. There's always somebody willing to shove a camera in their face.


I'm sorry, I just draw a difference between Campbell Brown having an orgasm when Obama speaks (Tina Fey's reality) and Campbell Brown insisting Obama backtracked on Cuba without his even saying anything (actual reality).
 
2008-03-04 4:38:06 PM  
puffy999: I'm waiting for someone in the anti-Obama crowd to start claiming his voters think of him as Jesus. Some of the straw-men seem to be heading in that direction.

Dude, if barneyfifesbullet hasn't come in and claimed Hillary's the only electable Democrat this year, I'm sure it'll be coming shortly.
 
2008-03-04 4:38:19 PM  
spiderpaz: Could she look any MORE like Satan?

Yes she can!
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2008-03-04 4:40:24 PM  
subset sum: * General electric owns 80% of NBC. (NBC, in turn, owns 80% of MSNBC.)

* Saturday Night Live is on NBC.

* SNL is biased toward Hillary Clinton.

* General Electric is biased toward war.

* GE wants HRC to win the Democratic nomination.

GE prefers McCain to win in November, or HRC as an acceptable #2 choice.


I can't understand without an O'Reilly style meaningless flowchart.

I have thought that overall MSNBC has been in love with Obama, but never counted Hillary out. Their math guy Chuck Todd seems to think its over without multiple Hillary blowouts tonight. Joe Scarborough gushes over Obama's speeches. Matthews literally drools over Obama. Even Tucker has trouble being too critical of Obama. Only in Dan Abrams do I detect a pro-Hillary bias.

/Obama supporter
//just calling it how i c it
 
2008-03-04 4:41:41 PM  
robsul82: SharkUW: robsul82: Not to mention HuffPo's point of CNN clearly being biased in favor of Hillary (not that that stopped Tina Fey and the SNL crew from insisting the last CNN debate was an Obama jerkoff session) is completely correct.

Every debate is a jerkoff session. I wouldn't hold it against any particular station. The candidates won't show up if it isn't agreed that it will be. There's always somebody willing to shove a camera in their face.

I'm sorry, I just draw a difference between Campbell Brown having an orgasm when Obama speaks (Tina Fey's reality) and Campbell Brown insisting Obama backtracked on Cuba without his even saying anything (actual reality).


Oh I agree about that. I'm saying that CNN shouldn't get knocked for being inconsistent jerkoffs because every other network is pretty much the same. Although Fox is really pushing it since their the only network I've seen that blatantly and knowingly lies to their audience under the guise of commentary (as if it isn't approved by the wigs).
 
2008-03-04 4:42:16 PM  
*they're
 
2008-03-04 4:42:21 PM  
bartink: subset sum: * General electric owns 80% of NBC. (NBC, in turn, owns 80% of MSNBC.)

* Saturday Night Live is on NBC.

* SNL is biased toward Hillary Clinton.

* General Electric is biased toward war.

* GE wants HRC to win the Democratic nomination.

GE prefers McCain to win in November, or HRC as an acceptable #2 choice.

I can't understand without an O'Reilly style meaningless flowchart.

I have thought that overall MSNBC has been in love with Obama, but never counted Hillary out. Their math guy Chuck Todd seems to think its over without multiple Hillary blowouts tonight. Joe Scarborough gushes over Obama's speeches. Matthews literally drools over Obama. Even Tucker has trouble being too critical of Obama. Only in Dan Abrams do I detect a pro-Hillary bias.

/Obama supporter
//just calling it how i c it


I agree MSNBC is the 24/7 most favorable to Obama, but Chuck Todd thinks that way for a reason, namely that mathematically Hillary needs to blow out Obama the rest of the way to make up the pledged delegate gap. Futhermore, Scarborough's joining the chorus saying "if Hillary wins one of the two big ones, the race goes back to zero" when nothing of the sort is actually true.
 
2008-03-04 4:43:38 PM  
It's interesting to me to see how many people don't know that media is plural.

Kinda makes their points about it hard to take.
 
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