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2008-03-01 2:22:34 PM  
Rib bruisings by g/f's elbows in my experience.
 
2008-03-01 2:23:03 PM  
Spiffy? Subby must have a snoring roommate.


/Sleep apniac.
//is that a word?
 
2008-03-01 2:25:57 PM  
Also, FTA: Some good news though - for men, it seems the tendency to snore declines once they get past the age of 70.

Wouldn't that be because fewer of us snorers live that long?
 
2008-03-01 2:36:54 PM  
Not terribly surprising... I'm a world-class snorer and I have sleep apnea. It freaks my bedmates out when I stop breathing for a few seconds at a time. The constant stop-start cycle is probably as hard on the system as city driving is on a car.

Plus it makes my gag reflex go through the roof (so much for that career as a gay prostitute) to the point where even minor coughing causes me to nearly barf, and that process causes massive surges in blood pressure.

Not fun.
 
2008-03-01 2:37:12 PM  
My grandmother will turn 85 this summer. She snores loud enough to register on seismographs in mainland China.
 
2008-03-01 2:42:22 PM  
so.... just about everybody?

/Mother in law snores like a battery of howitzers raining down on a forest being cleared furiously by Paul Bunyan
//no more vacations with her and her family I promised myself
///yeah right
 
2008-03-01 3:01:32 PM  
This study is stupid. Obese people are MUCH more likely to snore. So are people that smoke, or drink heavily. THOSE are the reasons wh snorers are more likely to have health problems.
 
2008-03-01 3:02:42 PM  
Is it bad when you snoring is so bad that people have given you nicknames about it?

Or how about when your sleep study comes back with an AHI of about 120?

/CPAP does nothing for me
//I'm just screwed
 
2008-03-01 3:04:04 PM  
Shvetz: THOSE are the reasons wh snorers are more likely to have health problems.

What, the fact that snoring is one of the primary indicators of Sleep Apnea has nothing to do with it?

You need O2 all day, not just when you are awake...
 
2008-03-01 3:05:08 PM  
Sleep apnea is a killer. People who snore are more likely to have it than people who don't. It caused my father's heart attack. If you wake up several times in the night or sweat a lot when you sleep, slept for 8hrs and feel like you didn't sleep any, get checked out. Another sign is rapid heart rate or palpitations through out the day. Your heart is working over time to account for your stopped breathing. By the time you turn 40 you will have the heart of 75 year old man. Two of my friends have it and didn't realize it until they did a sleep study to try and figure out what was wrong with them. Pay attention to the systems and get checked out. THIS SHIAT CAN KILL YOU - slowly. One day you are complaining about feeling tired all the time and the next you are in your bed at 2 in the morning having a heart attack.
 
2008-03-01 4:21:27 PM  
ThatsCrazyTalk: Sleep apnea is a killer. People who snore are more likely to have it than people who don't. It caused my father's heart attack. If you wake up several times in the night or sweat a lot when you sleep, slept for 8hrs and feel like you didn't sleep any, get checked out. Another sign is rapid heart rate or palpitations through out the day. Your heart is working over time to account for your stopped breathing. By the time you turn 40 you will have the heart of 75 year old man. Two of my friends have it and didn't realize it until they did a sleep study to try and figure out what was wrong with them. Pay attention to the systems and get checked out. THIS SHIAT CAN KILL YOU - slowly. One day you are complaining about feeling tired all the time and the next you are in your bed at 2 in the morning having a heart attack.

Please, present your evidence, if you have any, to the court.

I've had sleep apnea since I was teeny tiny (am now 24). I inform my Doctors of it as applicable. They never fall down screaming 'oh my christ you're going to die!!!'

I also snore like a bandsaw, and always have.
 
2008-03-01 4:29:17 PM  
Shvetz:

This study is stupid. Obese people are MUCH more likely to snore. So are people that smoke, or drink heavily. THOSE are the reasons wh snorers are more likely to have health problems.

Well, I do smoke and drink heavily, but am a mesomorph. But if we're going anecdotally, my father has none of the risk factors you describe. He snored so loudly he'd wake himself up.

Apnea and snoring isn't just something that happens to fat drunk smokers.
 
2008-03-01 4:43:32 PM  
maxheck: Not terribly surprising... I'm a world-class snorer and I have sleep apnea. It freaks my bedmates out when I stop breathing for a few seconds at a time. The constant stop-start cycle is probably as hard on the system as city driving is on a car.

Plus it makes my gag reflex go through the roof (so much for that career as a gay prostitute) to the point where even minor coughing causes me to nearly barf, and that process causes massive surges in blood pressure.

Not fun.


My father died of a heart attack last year at 47 while he was sleeping. He had severe sleep apnea and never bothered treating it. Your absolutely right its very hard on the system, and most people don't realize it can eventually kill you. Get that shiat fixed people, you never know when you might not wake up tomorrow.
 
2008-03-01 4:54:02 PM  
kroonermanblack: ThatsCrazyTalk: Sleep apnea is a killer. People who snore are more likely to have it than people who don't. It caused my father's heart attack. If you wake up several times in the night or sweat a lot when you sleep, slept for 8hrs and feel like you didn't sleep any, get checked out. Another sign is rapid heart rate or palpitations through out the day. Your heart is working over time to account for your stopped breathing. By the time you turn 40 you will have the heart of 75 year old man. Two of my friends have it and didn't realize it until they did a sleep study to try and figure out what was wrong with them. Pay attention to the systems and get checked out. THIS SHIAT CAN KILL YOU - slowly. One day you are complaining about feeling tired all the time and the next you are in your bed at 2 in the morning having a heart attack.

Please, present your evidence, if you have any, to the court.

I've had sleep apnea since I was teeny tiny (am now 24). I inform my Doctors of it as applicable. They never fall down screaming 'oh my christ you're going to die!!!'

I also snore like a bandsaw, and always have.


What evidence do you need? Wouldn't it be common sense that having adrenalin administered to your system every night multiple times a night (thats what causes you to wake up and start breathing again) can be a horrible stress on your cardiovascular system? Like I said above, my dad died at 47, that would make your age middle aged for him. Treat it, don't treat it, I don't care. Just know that it can eventually kill you, and cause plenty of other problems as well. If you have severe sleep apnea and your dr doesn't do anything about it Id get a new dr.
 
2008-03-01 4:54:36 PM  
kroonermanblack

Are you saying not breathing is good for you? You are only 24. Let me know how you feel after 25 years. Maybe your apnea is not severe enough to warrent treatment or concern. All I am saying is if you think you have it, get checked out. If its bad enough, it can kill you, slowly. I don't need to present evidence to show that not breathing is bad.
 
2008-03-01 6:04:27 PM  
kroonermanblack:

Please, present your evidence, if you have any, to the court.

I've had sleep apnea since I was teeny tiny (am now 24). I inform my Doctors of it as applicable. They never fall down screaming 'oh my christ you're going to die!!!'

I also snore like a bandsaw, and always have.


You're an idiot. The damage is cumulative, it will catch up to you. Wait until you start waking up at 2am in atrial fib every couple of months or so. A lot of doctors don't know much about sleep apnea, so no surprise there. Oh, and yes, you are going to die.
 
2008-03-01 7:14:34 PM  
A lot of doctors don't know much about sleep apnea, so no surprise there

This appears to be correct. They ran a bunch of tests on my dad after his heart attack to figure out what the deal was. The doc was puzzled until they decided to do a sleep study. After my father got the breathing machine he got a lot better, but now his heart is so damaged he has to be on meds to keep it working right.
 
2008-03-01 7:45:12 PM  
dictyboy: kroonermanblack:

Please, present your evidence, if you have any, to the court.

I've had sleep apnea since I was teeny tiny (am now 24). I inform my Doctors of it as applicable. They never fall down screaming 'oh my christ you're going to die!!!'

I also snore like a bandsaw, and always have.

You're an idiot. The damage is cumulative, it will catch up to you. Wait until you start waking up at 2am in atrial fib every couple of months or so. A lot of doctors don't know much about sleep apnea, so no surprise there. Oh, and yes, you are going to die.


Not a single one of you calling me an idiot has presented a single fact.

My father was in fact saved by his sleep apnea. The house was on fire and he woke up and found out and ran out and saved my pregnant mother.

It must be the bestest thing ever!!

Anecdotal evidence, regardless of how emotionally appealing, is simply not evidence.

I happen to agree with you. But you still have not presented facts.
 
2008-03-01 7:46:32 PM  
Fortunately, I figured out my problem before I had a heart attack but I had to compile the evidence and convince my doctor to order a sleep study. 5 years later on CPAP with no further incidents, my BP is down and I wake up actually feeling rested. My wife also no longer wakes me up to go sleep in another county.
 
2008-03-01 8:24:46 PM  
kroonermanblack: dictyboy: kroonermanblack:

Please, present your evidence, if you have any, to the court.

I've had sleep apnea since I was teeny tiny (am now 24). I inform my Doctors of it as applicable. They never fall down screaming 'oh my christ you're going to die!!!'

I also snore like a bandsaw, and always have.

You're an idiot. The damage is cumulative, it will catch up to you. Wait until you start waking up at 2am in atrial fib every couple of months or so. A lot of doctors don't know much about sleep apnea, so no surprise there. Oh, and yes, you are going to die.

Not a single one of you calling me an idiot has presented a single fact.

My father was in fact saved by his sleep apnea. The house was on fire and he woke up and found out and ran out and saved my pregnant mother.

It must be the bestest thing ever!!

Anecdotal evidence, regardless of how emotionally appealing, is simply not evidence.

I happen to agree with you. But you still have not presented facts.



If you asked for evidence of cancer being bad what response do you think you would get? I don't think one needs to prove an indisputable medical condition is bad for ones health.
 
2008-03-01 8:43:37 PM  
kroonermanblack:

I happen to agree with you. But you still have not presented facts.

Ummm... Ok. Go to PubMed and type "apnea" in the search box.

What exactly is it you're looking for?
 
2008-03-01 8:54:43 PM  
There is tons of information all over the place about the risks of sleep apnea. It's a bad thing to have.
 
2008-03-01 10:13:15 PM  
Some good news though - for men, it seems the tendency to snore declines once they get past the age of 70.

Doesn't that mean most of the snorers died by then? How is that good news?
 
2008-03-01 10:22:02 PM  
ThatsCrazyTalk: Sleep apnea is a killer. People who snore are more likely to have it than people who don't. It caused my father's heart attack. If you wake up several times in the night or sweat a lot when you sleep, slept for 8hrs and feel like you didn't sleep any, get checked out. Another sign is rapid heart rate or palpitations through out the day. Your heart is working over time to account for your stopped breathing. By the time you turn 40 you will have the heart of 75 year old man. Two of my friends have it and didn't realize it until they did a sleep study to try and figure out what was wrong with them. Pay attention to the systems and get checked out. THIS SHIAT CAN KILL YOU - slowly. One day you are complaining about feeling tired all the time and the next you are in your bed at 2 in the morning having a heart attack.

As someone whose 40-year-old brother died from sleep apnea after meeting every single one of the criteria you list above, I am not getting a kick out of any of this. But it's all true.
 
2008-03-01 10:22:56 PM  
"From the Department of shiat we Already Know"
aka "Holy fark, I can get grant money for this?"


Haven't we known this for like... 15 or 20 years?
 
2008-03-01 10:33:32 PM  
Heroin For Peace: Is it bad when you snoring is so bad that people have given you nicknames about it?

Or how about when your sleep study comes back with an AHI of about 120?

/CPAP does nothing for me
//I'm just screwed


My sleep study came back 191 - I hate my CPAP but now my AHI is .2 and not only do I notice the difference in my life but everyone around me also does.

hate the meme but maybe you are doing it wrong?
 
2008-03-02 1:12:42 AM  
Heroin For Peace: Is it bad when you snoring is so bad that people have given you nicknames about it?

Or how about when your sleep study comes back with an AHI of about 120?

/CPAP does nothing for me
//I'm just screwed


Unfortunately there is also central apnea, which CPAP doesn't help. If you have that, then you are screwed.
 
2008-03-02 3:35:51 AM  
MarkMartinFan: hate the meme but maybe you are doing it wrong?

Possibly, but I've tried it a lot. I can't sleep with the damn machine. My body can't exhale past the higher positive pressure when I'm highly relaxed (that is, sleeping).

dictyboy: Unfortunately there is also central apnea, which CPAP doesn't help. If you have that, then you are screwed.

The two sleep studies didn't suggest any central apnea, but I have a hard time sleeping at those places anyway, so I don't know how much I should trust the results.

My sleep problems seem to be intermittent, too. So I think I'd need like a full week straight of sleep studies to get real data.

They've already given me one of the surgeries (nasal), and the ENT says my throught is fine and is way far from being a candidate for the UPPP surgery.

/so yes, I'm screwed
//as long as the psychs can keep me in amphetamines, I almost manage...
///still going to give me a heart-attack within the next 10 years, though, if not sooner
 
2008-03-02 4:25:33 AM  
Heroin For Peace: MarkMartinFan: hate the meme but maybe you are doing it wrong?

Possibly, but I've tried it a lot. I can't sleep with the damn machine. My body can't exhale past the higher positive pressure when I'm highly relaxed (that is, sleeping).

dictyboy: Unfortunately there is also central apnea, which CPAP doesn't help. If you have that, then you are screwed.

The two sleep studies didn't suggest any central apnea, but I have a hard time sleeping at those places anyway, so I don't know how much I should trust the results.

My sleep problems seem to be intermittent, too. So I think I'd need like a full week straight of sleep studies to get real data.

They've already given me one of the surgeries (nasal), and the ENT says my throught is fine and is way far from being a candidate for the UPPP surgery.

/so yes, I'm screwed
//as long as the psychs can keep me in amphetamines, I almost manage...
///still going to give me a heart-attack within the next 10 years, though, if not sooner


I know the feeling, I got my doctor to cut the pressure a bit starting out, plus I played with the ramping. I still felt like I'd been beaten in the chest for about a month. Eventually I got used to it, can't sleep without it.
 
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