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(Reuters)   The hype: AIDS is a US epidemic and we're not doing enough to fight it. The reality: Less than 1 percent of people in the US are HIV-positive   (reuters.com) divider line
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tchamber
2008-01-30 3:42:58 PM  
So, subby, 3 million HIV-positive people in the US is OK?

Farktard.
 
BigDumbGuy
2008-01-30 3:48:06 PM  
If there were only real easy ways to not get HIV. I feel bad for all those that got it before anyone knew what it was and all those that got it through blood transfusions. Everyone else, not so much.
 
dickkead
2008-01-30 3:50:02 PM  
tchamber: So, subby, 3 million HIV-positive people in the US is OK?

Farktard.

RTFA

It says 600,000

Now who's the farktard? (I'm not subby, just for the record)
 
SoothinglyDeranged
2008-01-30 3:50:38 PM  
tchamber: So, subby, 3 million HIV-positive people in the US is OK?

Farktard.

True, it is terrible, but obviously not an epidemic.
 
peck
2008-01-30 4:04:03 PM  
SoothinglyDeranged: but obviously not an epidemic.

Bigger than the SARS or Bird Flu epidemic.

FYI...

Number of deaths for leading causes of death

Heart disease: 652,486
Cancer: 553,888
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 150,074
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 121,987
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 112,012
Diabetes: 73,138
Alzheimer's disease: 65,965
Influenza/Pneumonia: 59,664
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 42,480
Septicemia: 33,373


/ya, ya, infection isn't death.
 
meekychuppet
2008-01-30 4:09:03 PM  
More people die from not breathing.
 
tchamber
2008-01-30 4:11:12 PM  
dickkead RTFA

It says 600,000


So, subby's math sucks. 600,000 is still way too high.
 
Rev. Skarekroe
2008-01-30 4:13:54 PM  
Meanwhile, in Africa...
 
Egoy
2008-01-30 4:15:20 PM  
The real question is how will it affect the price of gas? Thats a good guage of how much I care. I am the average Joe and I don't really care, I work 5 days and drink the other two.

Until AIDS starts ripping though the suburbs nobody will care, it's sad but it's also true, you should probably get used to it folks.
 
z_gringo
2008-01-30 4:16:03 PM  
dickkead: It says 600,000

Now who's the farktard?

Which is way less than 1%
 
log_jammin
2008-01-30 4:16:29 PM  
tchamber: So, subby's math sucks.

submitter: Less than 1 percent

/Not submitter
 
Whamdangler
2008-01-30 4:19:00 PM  
"What's next, you put your dick in and it explodes?!"
 
willywanka
2008-01-30 4:21:00 PM  
for the life of me I don't understand why people get upset about wanting to fight/cure a disease.
 
madmann
2008-01-30 4:24:44 PM  
All in how you frame it.

"Less than 1% of all Americans" sounds not so bad.
"12% more than cancer" sounds pretty bad.

Same number sets, just depends on how you wanna spin it.

/Lies, damned lies & statistics.
 
Nabb1
2008-01-30 4:29:00 PM  
Who doesn't want to wear the r-r-red r-r-ribbon?
 
lordargent
2008-01-30 4:35:50 PM  
madmann: "Less than 1% of all Americans" sounds not so bad.
"12% more than cancer

What type of cancer.

/with the exception of a small number of people who got HIV from transfusions. HIV infection is quite avoidable.

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Here is a message to the super-hoes
Just keep in mind when jimmy grows
It grows and grows and grows, so let it
But keep in mind about the epidemic
When jimmy releases, boy it pleases
But what do you do about all these diseases?
Jimmy is jimmy, no matter what
So take care of jimmy cos you know whats up
Cos now in winter aids attacks
So run out and get your jimmy hats
It costs so little for a pack of three
Theyre jimmy hats for the winter attack
Good for a present, great for lovers
Demonstrated by the jungle brothers
Protect your jimmy and keep it fresh
Theyre jimmy hats by krs

So, remember youre never too old (jimmy is wearin a hat)
Remember youre never too bold (jimmy is wearin a hat)
Do me a favour, wear your hat
So jimmy...will have the opportunity to come back

Well, red alert is down with bdp
Teachin you all about jimbrowski
I dont wanna hear that youre not with it
Turn around and see your butt in a clinic
Havin doctors just poke at jimmy
Let me express what now whats in me
Too many people take too many risks
Too many people I see get dissed
Jimmy hats are now in style
Cos you cant trust a big butt and a smile
Some are dry and some lubricated
Many companies make and made it
So all you super-hoes, wear your hat
Cos drippin jimmies is straight up wack
Keep in mind about jimbrowski
Jimmy hats by bdp
 
EatHam [TotalFark]
2008-01-30 4:40:19 PM  
willywanka: for the life of me I don't understand why people get upset about wanting to fight/cure a disease.

Here's why. The amount of money spent on AIDS is completely ridiculously disproportionate to the number of people affected. The money spent there could do so much more than it is, but it's being held hostage by a fringe group of wackos. That's why. AIDS is the new hotness, malaria, dysentary, you know, things that actually kill a lot of people and can be easily prevented or cured by sending a little more cash their way are ignored because who cares, EVERYONE EITHER HAS AIDS OR WILL HAVE IT SOON SO PAY PAY PAY PAY F*CK MALARIA RIGHT IN THE ASS
 
R.A.Danny
2008-01-30 4:43:48 PM  
Anyone that gets AIDS today is an idiot.

I'm talking about in the USA like in tfa, so shut up about Africa.
 
EatHam [TotalFark]
2008-01-30 4:47:12 PM  
R.A.Danny: Anyone that gets AIDS today is an idiot.

Well, most people who get heart disease or lung cancer can lay the blame squarely at their own feet too...
 
meekychuppet
2008-01-30 4:50:03 PM  
R.A.Danny: Anyone that gets AIDS today is an idiot.

Or possibly the condom failed?

/Idiot.
 
ArcadianRefugee
2008-01-30 4:57:07 PM  
EatHam: Well, most people who get heart disease or lung cancer can lay the blame squarely at their own feet too...

My socks can cause lung cancer?
 
Con_Authority
2008-01-30 5:06:06 PM  
Wait, isn't being HIV positive a lifestyle choice? Just like being morbidly obese?

This guy chose to be the way he is, I mean who wouldn't?
Yes, it's a man.

[image from i266.photobucket.com too old to be available]
 
EatHam [TotalFark]
2008-01-30 5:06:40 PM  
ArcadianRefugee: My socks can cause lung cancer?

Your socks particularly? No, I don't think so, but maybe crabs.
 
R.A.Danny
2008-01-30 5:14:50 PM  
meekychuppet: Or possibly the condom failed?

On a one night stand with a junkie. Really, feel like a victim.
 
FlashHarry [TotalFark]
2008-01-30 5:48:54 PM  
i'm trying to assess the motivation of such a trolling strawman thread title.

first of all, the real crisis is in africa - most people acknowledge that aids has become much less of a problem here in the us, primarily due to education.

secondly, even though that may be the case - what the fark is the point of this thread? are you saying that aids gets too much attention? are you saying that 600,000 people with an incurable disease is nothing to worry about?

or are you one of those people who lives in 1985 and thinks that aids is god's punishment for homosexuality?
 
R.A.Danny
2008-01-30 5:52:22 PM  
FlashHarry: secondly, even though that may be the case - what the fark is the point of this thread? are you saying that aids gets too much attention? are you saying that 600,000 people with an incurable disease is nothing to worry about?

The attention is disproportionate. I blame better marketing.
 
willywanka
2008-01-30 5:55:38 PM  
EatHam: willywanka: for the life of me I don't understand why people get upset about wanting to fight/cure a disease.

Here's why. The amount of money spent on AIDS is completely ridiculously disproportionate to the number of people affected. The money spent there could do so much more than it is, but it's being held hostage by a fringe group of wackos. That's why. AIDS is the new hotness, malaria, dysentary, you know, things that actually kill a lot of people and can be easily prevented or cured by sending a little more cash their way are ignored because who cares, EVERYONE EITHER HAS AIDS OR WILL HAVE IT SOON SO PAY PAY PAY PAY F*CK MALARIA RIGHT IN THE ASS

And there you have it. See, the thing is that no one, to my knowledge, is preventing you from donating to charities that provide research or charity for whatever disease you find more important than AIDS. It's one of the only diseases in the world where people actually get offended by its mere mention, much less the notion that anyone else would want to contribute to its cure.

If you want to contribute to better malaria vaccinations and treatments or means for preventing dysentery, you can do this freely, and no one will tell you that the money would be "better spent" on a disease that they find to be more urgently pressing or dire. Hell, you could set up a donation for Tourette's disease research, with a site describing in great detail the effects and the misery it inflicts, and people will universally commend you for it, despite no one actually dying from it. But talk about AIDS, and people get infuriated that it is even mentioned, and proceed to do whatever they can to belittle its effects or severity.

Like I said, I just don't see why people would get upset about anyone wanting to help cure or treat a disease.
 
lordargent
2008-01-30 6:02:25 PM  
willywanka: Like I said, I just don't see why people would get upset about anyone wanting to help cure or treat a disease.

You obviously haven't been on fark long enough.

/still no cure for cancer
 
Raiden333
2008-01-30 6:15:59 PM  
willywanka: for the life of me I don't understand why people get upset about wanting to fight/cure a disease.

AIDS is the new leperosy (sp?). The public loves having a class of untouchables.

/Yes, I AM misanthropic, why do you ask?
 
meekychuppet
2008-01-30 6:16:44 PM  
R.A.Danny: On a one night stand with a junkie. Really, feel like a victim.

You really are an idiot. You made a stupid generalisation, were called on it and now you're acting like an idiot.

Again.
 
madmann
2008-01-30 6:24:40 PM  
lordargent: madmann: "Less than 1% of all Americans" sounds not so bad.
"12% more than cancer

What type of cancer.

Sorry, I was pretty unclear there... that's total cancer deaths (from peck's stat above) or 553,888 as compared to AIDS infections at 600,000.

Yes, I realize that infection != death... unless you're talking about AIDS. Seems to have a pretty good batting average.
 
Ni!
2008-01-30 6:25:41 PM  
R.A.Danny: meekychuppet: Or possibly the condom failed?

On a one night stand with a junkie. Really, feel like a victim.

Or your stupid husband who forgot to mention he was bi. God forbid you get it from sex with your own god damn spouse. That NEVER farking happens, right??
 
R.A.Danny
2008-01-30 6:44:12 PM  
meekychuppet: You really are an idiot. You made a stupid generalisation, were called on it and now you're acting like an idiot.

Ni!: Or your stupid husband who forgot to mention he was bi. God forbid you get it from sex with your own god damn spouse. That NEVER farking happens, right??

We are talking about the 1 in a.... bunch scenarios. You don't have anything better than "idiot" so you really don't count.
 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark]
2008-01-30 6:47:08 PM  
dickkead: It says 600,000

And even that's acceptable? Is there ANY assurance that it will not grow in the future as people "forget" about AIDS?

Need to treat HIV like smallpox. It's the only hope.
 
Dan the Schman
2008-01-30 6:50:41 PM  
R.A.Danny: Anyone that gets AIDS today is an idiot.

I'm talking about in the USA like in tfa, so shut up about Africa.

FYI, the fastest growing demographic is straight women getting it from their boyfriends who have secret gay lives, so STFU.
 
Radioactive Ass
2008-01-30 6:52:53 PM  
Dan the Schman: FYI, the fastest growing demographic is straight women getting it from their boyfriends who have secret gay lives, so STFU.

There goes getting teh buttseks from your mom. :(
 
Bacontastesgood
2008-01-30 6:56:47 PM  
willywanka: for the life of me I don't understand why people get upset about wanting to fight/cure a disease.

It gets between 10-100x the money and attention as more mundane diseases and causes of death get. The problem is especially bad in some parts of Africa, where kids are dying of malaria, famine, etc and AIDS patients get treated in state of the art clinics with antiretroviral combo drug therapy. It's absurd.
 
broomballwilson [BareFark]
2008-01-30 6:57:59 PM  
1% sounds like a frickin big deal.

And to compare AIDS, a 99.9% preventable disease, to cancer, maybe a 5% preventable disease, is just retarded.
 
Bacontastesgood
2008-01-30 6:58:54 PM  
Never mind, I responded before I realized it was a disingenuous ass.
 
Mr. Anon
2008-01-30 6:59:17 PM  
People who have AIDS probably deserve it.


/Sex is evil and wrong and should never happen unless you're trying to make a baby
//Same with blood transfusions and getting water from tears.
///Don't drink AIDS tears, no matter how good they taste.
 
Bacontastesgood
2008-01-30 7:01:09 PM  
R.A.Danny: Anyone that gets AIDS today is an idiot.

There was a recent story about prostitutes that said in 75% of "encounters" no condom was used. I was farking stunned. Are there really that many stupid people out there?
 
bingethinker [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2008-01-30 7:03:54 PM  
Way back when AIDS first became a problem, gay groups were concerned that it was perceived as a disease that only struck a small minority of people. So they started this "you could get it, your granny could get it, your kitty could get it!" propaganda. And it went on long enugh that people believe it, and you're a blasphemer if you suggest it's not true.

Guess what? It's not true. As a hetero, I have about the same chance of catching AIDS as getting hit by lightning. Now, roughly 100 people in North America get hit by lightning every year, so it could happen, but the odds are pretty long.
 
Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark]
2008-01-30 7:10:50 PM  
bingethinker: Way back when AIDS first became a problem, gay groups were concerned that it was perceived as a disease that only struck a small minority of people. So they started this "you could get it, your granny could get it, your kitty could get it!" propaganda. And it went on long enugh that people believe it, and you're a blasphemer if you suggest it's not true.

Guess what? It's not true. As a hetero, I have about the same chance of catching AIDS as getting hit by lightning. Now, roughly 100 people in North America get hit by lightning every year, so it could happen, but the odds are pretty long.

Soooo.... Everyone who does drugs with needles is gay. Good to know. Apparently I know have as much of a chance of shooting up as getting struck by lightening. Swweeeeeet.
 
bingethinker [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2008-01-30 7:16:23 PM  
Soooo.... Everyone who does drugs with needles is gay. Good to know. Apparently I know have as much of a chance of shooting up as getting struck by lightening.

I should have said "as a hetero who doesn't do drugs." Of course, sticking a dirty needle in your arm is about as smart as standing in a thunderstorm with a steel rod in your hands, so I like the comparison.
 
TheValiant
2008-01-30 7:21:02 PM  
I have AIDS so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

I don't, but I'm surprised no one's said it yet.
 
Robobuu
2008-01-30 7:21:48 PM  
Uchiha_Cycliste: Soooo.... Everyone who does drugs with needles is gay.

This.

The chance of contracting AIDS from having unprotected gay sex with a guy who is HIV positive is about 1/500. This chance is severely reduced with protection (and is even smaller in hetero or lesbian sex). AIDS is not an STD, in the sense that it is transmitted primarily through sex. Sure, the chance of sexual transmission is greater in homosexual males, but it is not a gay problem.
 
Rick_Slick
2008-01-30 7:22:23 PM  
/Currently living in a sterile bubble with no contact with other forms of life aside from via the Internet, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...
 
RockIsDead
2008-01-30 7:26:28 PM  
In 20 years we'll be looking at global warming the same way.
 
MrSteve007
2008-01-30 7:29:44 PM  
AIDS in the US = Meh

It's entirely preventable. I say as a service for public heath, everyone should be tested when they renew their driver's license. If they are positive, they get a tattoo on their wrist showing that they're a potential public heath hazard. Do the same for immigrants. 20-30 years down the line, tada, no more AIDS in the US.

As for Annual Deaths, from the CDC (2002):
AIDS = 17,557
Drunk Driving = 16,885 (2005)
Assault = 17,638
Lung infection = 17,593
Kidney Failure = 20,261
Liver Failure = 27,257
Septicemia = 33,865
The Flu = 58,866

There's a bunch more, including cancer and heart disease. But as you can see, AIDS is about 1/5 of an 'epidemic' as the common flu.
 
blahbaba
2008-01-30 7:31:28 PM  
Yes, I realize that infection != death... unless you're talking about AIDS. Seems to have a pretty good batting average.


AIDS != HIV. I didn't RTFA so I am not sure which they were talking about. I think there is about 20 year average time of survival from HIV diagnosis right now. That will likely go up in the coming years. HIV is becoming more survivable. Full blown AIDS on the other hand has a much shorter expectancy.
 
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