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(Some Guy)   Alec Baldwin, professional scientist person, explains why the FDA was wrong to allow cloned beef. Still no cure for Alec Baldwin   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line
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Postal Penguin
2008-01-20 8:51:19 PM  
So he argues that we shouldn't consume cloned beef by saying we should all be vegetarians since fast food makes us fat and that drugs used on normal cattle may cause cloned cattle to turn into mutant 100 foot high flesh eating zombie cows? I've seen better organized arguments by 3rd graders.

A clone is an exact copy of a cow that we would normally eat. How would it behave any differently in the food supply? If anything it sets up the beef industry to be wiped out by a disease that the cloned organisms happen to be highly susceptible to.
 
strangeguitar
2008-01-20 8:58:27 PM  
First prize is cloned beef.
Second prize is a set of steak knives.
Third prize is "you're fired."
 
t3knomanser
2008-01-20 9:00:41 PM  
Postal Penguin: How would it behave any differently in the food supply?

But-but, it was made by science! It must be bad for us.
 
Ragnaroks
2008-01-20 9:09:33 PM  
From TFA: What effect will BGH or pesticides, fungicides and herbicides in their own grain supply or antibiotics to treat conditions like mastitis in cattle have on cloned animals? Tell your Congressman to tell the FDA, "You go first."

Methinks Mr. Baldwin doesn't know what a clone is....
 
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2008-01-20 9:12:09 PM  
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WorldCitizen
2008-01-20 9:26:47 PM  
Thanks for coming down from your rich, isolated celebrity perch to tell me what I shouldn't be eating, Alec. Now, go DIAF.
 
Dancin_In_Anson
2008-01-20 9:39:49 PM  
I see a Nobel Prize in his future.
 
Chuck Wagon
2008-01-20 9:46:34 PM  
I just want to point out that it is highly unlikely that anyone will eat beef from a cloned animal. It simply costs to much to clone an animal to sell it for food. You will only ever eat the offspring of cloned animals.
 
dletter
2008-01-20 9:48:05 PM  
Chuck Wagon: I just want to point out that it is highly unlikely that anyone will eat beef from a cloned animal. It simply costs to much to clone an animal to sell it for food. You will only ever eat the offspring of cloned animals.

So, it's kind of like eating the retarded son of #4 in Multiplicity?

Send me a slab.
 
Guntram Shatterhand
2008-01-20 10:02:03 PM  
WorldCitizen: Thanks for coming down from your rich, isolated celebrity perch to tell me what I shouldn't be eating, Alec. Now, go DIAF.

Exactly why should I be listening to this asshole? Just because you're famous doesn't mean you're important. And I'd rather get my science from a real scientist rather than the asshole from The Shadow.
 
BitwiseShift
2008-01-20 10:05:39 PM  
FDA, science-free since 2001.
 
Robobuu
2008-01-20 10:05:46 PM  
So the main argument is that meat in general is bad and that people do not need to eat more meat? Great job, asshat. Nice strawman. People are going to consume the same amount of meat as before. If anything, cloning, in that respect, is good as they obviously are going to pick the cows that became the biggest and most likely the most efficient energy converters (food -> weight), thus meaning less of an environmental impact per cow. Add that to the fact that the cow was healthy, and that means fewer cows die before the slaughter.
 
oldebayer
2008-01-20 10:06:09 PM  
I wonder if Alec eats fruit from trees, or strawberries, or potatoes, or any number of other fruits and veggies that are cloned?

Judging by his girth, he's sure been eating SOMETHING.
 
StrikitRich
2008-01-20 10:07:51 PM  
I still can't tell the difference between Cloned Beef and Pastrami.
 
barneyfifesbullet
2008-01-20 10:13:34 PM  
I just finished a great steak dinner. That's my answer to that column.

I now return the thread to it's celeb punching bag.
 
Rob1855x
2008-01-20 10:15:16 PM  
He's my favorite Canadian.
 
thedarkshadow
2008-01-20 10:26:48 PM  
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jake3988 [OhFark]
2008-01-20 10:30:11 PM  
Cue the christian/republican/crazy person in white dancing in the street/ who vehemently goes against this.

If we can't get hundreds of thousands of people to eat genetically modified GRAINED food, how in hell will we get them to eat cloned beef? Ah well, they can GTFA anyway.
 
c-ment
2008-01-20 10:32:08 PM  
Just stay away from his "Schweddy Balls"
 
Opiate of the Lasses
2008-01-20 10:33:03 PM  
When you see Arec Barrwin, you see the true ugriness of human nature.
 
skinbubble
2008-01-20 10:35:37 PM  
c-ment: Just stay away from his "Schweddy Balls"

But they come in a sack. If you act fast.
 
tomasso
2008-01-20 10:36:03 PM  
Give the man a break. One earns the right to comment on matters like this from either academic credentials or life experience.

I think we can tell from Alec's appearance that he is an expert on proper diet. We can therefore waive all those silly university degrees we would normally expect from a scientific analyst.
 
erewhon
2008-01-20 10:37:22 PM  
Don't tell him that every banana he's ever eaten is a clone.

Or that identical twins are clones.

I suspect the cattle cloning they're talking about is embryo twinning, but I don't seem to be turning up data pro or con. That's pretty low-tech and not half as spacey as Baldwin's envisioning.
 
mordred42
2008-01-20 10:40:07 PM  
Postal Penguin: ... it sets up the beef industry to be wiped out by a disease that the cloned organisms happen to be highly susceptible to.

I think this is the main thing that I would worry about. The same thing has happened with our grain supply. Virtually all of our grains and bananas are genetically identical to one another. They may be the variety that produces more but reducing genetic variability can be very dangerous.

Potentially the Beef Moth could sweep through an entire cloned herd of cattle and wipe it out. Without genetic variability then natural resistance to the Beef Moth may not exist.
 
Black Lagoon
2008-01-20 10:40:26 PM  
...so they can take my one cheeseburger and make it two?

I'll smash all eight Baldwins if they get in the way of that sh*t.
 
neocssck
2008-01-20 10:41:39 PM  
The only ethical concern of cloning IMO, is that the cloned creature is of the same age (on a cellular level) as the parent creature. If you're cloning an animal to kill it before it naturally would die, then I don't see the big deal. Its not like its going to mutate into some horrible inedible creature during the cloning process. Arec Bardwin is just ignorant and mis-informed from listening to the tree huggers around LA.

/organic food is killing the earth by taking many times more land/effort/etc, but no one seems to care about that
 
Uncorrect
2008-01-20 10:45:29 PM  
Ok... so, if I understand this correctly, cloning cattle is bad because it will somehow cause global warming to accelerate and because Americans are fat?

Hmmm.. let me try this... By selectively cloning the best and biggest of the cows, we will inadvertently hasten the advent of a sentient bovine race - one that has years of hamburger related rage to unleash. More importantly, during mankind's futile attempts to stop the raging herds of cattle, nuclear weapons will inevitably be used - hastening global warming.

/Damn Dirty Bovines
 
AgentONeal
2008-01-20 10:45:31 PM  
You know who ELSE was experimenting with new 'ingredients'?

http://www.tagruato.jp/
 
WorldCitizen
2008-01-20 10:46:52 PM  
neocssck: The only ethical concern of cloning IMO, is that the cloned creature is of the same age (on a cellular level) as the parent creature. If you're cloning an animal to kill it before it naturally would die, then I don't see the big deal. Its not like its going to mutate into some horrible inedible creature during the cloning process. Arec Bardwin is just ignorant and mis-informed from listening to the tree huggers around LA.

/organic food is killing the earth by taking many times more land/effort/etc, but no one seems to care about that

Yeah, the only reason we don't have massive famine on the planet is because we have been altering our food supply for centuries. We've been speeding up those alterations recently, but it is nothing new other than the technique. If the hippies don't want mass starvation on the planet, they better move their asses into supporting new food technologies.

Of course, in a rush to make more food through more efficient means, we shouldn't create even bigger issues like those mentioned of having our food supply with very limited genetic variation.
 
DrZiffle
2008-01-20 10:47:42 PM  
If only there were some forum where uninformed but opinionated people like Alec Baldwin could spout their inanities ...
 
ChubbyTiger
2008-01-20 10:49:02 PM  
Uncorrect: Hmmm.. let me try this... By selectively cloning the best and biggest of the cows, we will inadvertently hasten the advent of a sentient bovine race - one that has years of hamburger related rage to unleash. More importantly, during mankind's futile attempts to stop the raging herds of cattle, nuclear weapons will inevitably be used - hastening global warming.

Cloned cow farts are worse than natural cow farts?
 
whaledawg
2008-01-20 10:56:24 PM  
jake3988: If we can't get hundreds of thousands of people to eat genetically modified GRAINED food, how in hell will we get them to eat cloned beef?

Ever have a Dorito?
 
Trik
2008-01-20 10:56:37 PM  
Alec Baldwin is cloned beef
His face anyway
 
thalidomide new and improved
2008-01-20 10:58:00 PM  
"I don't give a damn that you're 12-years-old or 11-years-old, or a child, or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass who doesn't care about what you do."

-Alec Baldwin, Father of the farking Year
 
myselfandi
2008-01-20 10:58:17 PM  
Clones we already eat:

*apples
*grapes
*strawberries
*oranges
*pears
*blueberries
*potatoes
*sweet potatoes
*bananas
*seedless watermelons

and more ... I'm just already bored of listing these things.
 
whaledawg
2008-01-20 10:59:02 PM  
mordred42: Potentially the Beef Moth could sweep through an entire cloned herd of cattle and wipe it out. Without genetic variability then natural resistance to the Beef Moth may not exist.

Stupid Beef Moth. If only Godzilla had gotten to Mothra before he raped that cow.
 
Anagrammer
2008-01-20 11:43:51 PM  
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I Can't Find My Pants
2008-01-20 11:55:09 PM  
Alec Baldwin is about as scientifically qualified as the FDA these days.
 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2008-01-21 12:39:13 AM  
mordred42:

Potentially the Beef Moth could sweep through an entire cloned herd of cattle and wipe it out. Without genetic variability then natural resistance to the Beef Moth may not exist.

Trying to picture a Beef Moth just about made me cry. It sounds like next summer's blockbuster sci-fi epic. Now if only the writers weren't on strike.....
 
IAmAGodWarrior
2008-01-21 12:45:45 AM  
selfish little pig
 
ptrifoliata2
2008-01-21 12:48:16 AM  
fark it, i'm going to buy the fda and the fcc and sell brawndo to all.
 
Mega Steve
2008-01-21 1:53:17 AM  
Dear Alec,

Next time I eat a bloody steak, I'll think of you and what an asshole you are.

Love,

Mega Steve
 
pstawicki
2008-01-21 2:03:20 AM  
I HATE ALEC BALDWIN

That being said, anything that a scientist invented and that is approved of and being put forth by the Federal Government is in fact a bad idea. Thereby - Cloned meat is a BAD IDEA! It may take 5, 10, or 100 years to find out for sure - but it is a bad idea!
 
Monarchibbs
2008-01-21 2:29:35 AM  
myselfandi: Clones we already eat:

*seedless watermelons

THAT's why I cant get a decent watermelon anymore. Well doesnt that farking figure.
 
Monarchibbs
2008-01-21 2:31:10 AM  
Gyrfalcon:
It sounds like next summer's blockbuster sci-fi epic. Now if only the writers weren't on strike.....


Sci Fi channel has writers?!? Who knew?
 
Passive Aggressive Larry
2008-01-21 2:45:25 AM  
you are worthless, alec baldwin
 
WorldCitizen
2008-01-21 3:02:23 AM  
pstawicki: I HATE ALEC BALDWIN

That being said, anything that a scientist invented and that is approved of and being put forth by the Federal Government is in fact a bad idea. Thereby - Cloned meat is a BAD IDEA! It may take 5, 10, or 100 years to find out for sure - but it is a bad idea!

So I take it that you will never take any medications invented by scientists and approved by the FDA?

I mean, really, how much tin foil do you have stocked in the basement?
 
Dumbear
2008-01-21 3:21:01 AM  
Dear Alec Baldwin,

Please shut the fark up so I can go back to fapping to your awesome hotness.
Seriously, no talking.

/shh
 
whap_'em_slap_'em_robot
2008-01-21 8:53:41 AM  
ALAN BALLWIN IS COOL AND SMARTR AND PRETTYER THAN YOU ALL NEED TO SHUT UP, HE IS A DOCTOR DIDN'T YOU SEE THE MOVE WHERE HE SAID HE IS GOD? CLONIGN IS WRONG THEY CLONED VINCE FOSTER AND JODY FOSTER AND GOT FOREST WHITAKER. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!1 RON PAUL
 
ChubbyTiger
2008-01-21 9:04:19 AM  
pstawicki: I HATE ALEC BALDWIN

That being said, anything that a scientist invented and that is approved of and being put forth by the Federal Government is in fact a bad idea. Thereby - Cloned meat is a BAD IDEA! It may take 5, 10, or 100 years to find out for sure - but it is a bad idea!

No more penicillin for you, then.
 
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