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(World Net Daily)   Calling the sniper a 'Middle Eastern terrorist' would cause everybody to freak out   ( divider line
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2002-10-16 03:12:00 AM  
Federal authorities interviewed by WorldNetDaily say the sniper shootings are more sophisticated than first thought, and have the earmarks of an al-Qaida operation.


2002-10-16 03:16:21 AM  
Al-Qaida training videos recovered by U.S. forces in Afghanistan demonstrate small-scale attacks such as drive-by shootings and assassinations,

Interesting article.

2002-10-16 03:17:19 AM  
some dude calls him dark skinned suddenly he's a freaking terrorist. lame. we had a Possible (turned out to be nothing) water poisoning with e coli. up here. I'm glad NOBODY pointed to terrorist or anything, I'm seriously tired of over-reacting and speculation.
2002-10-16 03:20:39 AM  
I missed the game. Who won?
2002-10-16 03:25:41 AM  
For one, the shootings are unbelievably brazen, like the Sept. 11 attacks. Eyewitnesses in both the Home Depot shooting in Falls Church, Va., and Exxon station shooting in Fredericksburg, Va., told authorities they saw a sniper taking aim and shooting from outside the reported getaway van, WorldNetDaily has learned.

They saw someone holding a weapon outside a getaaway van and couldn't get the plate numbers. I doubt that happened.
2002-10-16 03:27:28 AM  
is every farkin person doin bad shiat a "Middle-eastern terrorist" these days? i bet i could fart in someone's general direction and blame it on terrorists and people would believe it
2002-10-16 03:29:21 AM  
you stole the cookie from the cookie jar
who me?
yes you
couldn't be
then who?
Middle eastern terrorists!

hahahahahaa time for bed
2002-10-16 03:31:08 AM  

What do you expect from World Net Daily -- "We promise to twist any situation into a justification for whatever Republicans want to do at any given point in time."

If we'd bombed the hell out of Iraq last year, Americans wouldn't shoot at each other with such monotonous regularity, natch.
2002-10-16 03:31:42 AM  
I keep reading that the DC police are working on a composite drawing of the suspect(s), but so far nothing. Considering how long it is taking, it should be a masterpiece; comparable to the Mona Lisa.
2002-10-16 03:37:18 AM  
As someone else pointed out in another thread, this guy is most likely white. Two choices on what he is: 1, he's a serial killer; 2, he's a right wing nutjob. Both choices point to white American male. Who knows, he may even be an admirer of Timothy McVeigh.

That's my dos centos.
2002-10-16 03:39:51 AM  
Comfortably_Numb: you havent been following the news, have you?
2002-10-16 03:57:58 AM  
It could be the notorious Irish sniper, Rick O'Shay.

P.S. I'm looking for 6 pall-bearers to escort that joke off the premises.
2002-10-16 03:59:19 AM  
Never be rude to an Arab.
2002-10-16 04:04:59 AM  
Funny how threads about the sniper used to be super long, yet this thread hasn't grown very fast at all. I wonder if everyone has realized what arguing on the internet is like, or if everything that can be said, has been said. Maybe everyone's getting bored?
2002-10-16 04:08:22 AM  
Just my two cents - which puts the pot somewhere around 3 or 4 kajillion dollars -

I just get the feeling from everything I've read it's two white nutballs that think they're oppressed by a totaltarian government and they just want to "stick it to the man."

/runs from flames
2002-10-16 04:08:54 AM  
"1, he's a serial killer; 2, he's a right wing nutjob. Both choices point to white American male"????????

That is a brazenly racist and bullshiat statement. Racial Profiling? C'mon man! "1, He sells crack; 2, He's a radical Liberal. Both choices point to the Urban Black Male."

Why the fark would he be "right wing"? The last political assassination in Europe was done by an Animal Rights activist. The only active American Terrorist group is ELF, the Earth Liberation Front. They are the only ones I know of regularly using arson and other methods of destruction, intimidation and, shall we say? Terror. Name another that is actively engaged in such...Not people with loose affiliations like McVeigh or Eric Rudolph, but actual organisations. Why could it not be a rabid Gore Fan tying to cause headaches for Bush?

anyway, it would sort of coincide with the attack on the tanker and the Bali Bombing...not to mention pronouncements from the Al-Qaeda folks about hitting our economic lifeline...notice where these shootings are taking place?
2002-10-16 04:12:01 AM  
Could be that all the talkative folks are asleep.

Me, I'm too fagged out to get properly worked-up about the stupidity of the linked article.

(Go ahead, cast aspersions on my expression, ya ignrnt yankees.) Ahem.
2002-10-16 04:16:29 AM  
hee hee...didn't bother to read the article really...too much work to click the link, read some bullshiat, then close that whole window....ugh.
Just bored...but right, mind you...
2002-10-16 04:17:37 AM  
I guess it's because if the sniper is believed to be white by the masses, then somehow he will be a righteous dude?
2002-10-16 04:17:57 AM  
Zednaught: "The only active American Terrorist group is ELF, the Earth Liberation Front."


You don't figure the Army of God qualifies as a terrorist group? Or half a dozen other sniping, bombing, nutjob fringe groups? Pull yer head out, dude.
2002-10-16 04:23:32 AM  
Narmacil - "Funny how threads about the sniper used to be super long, yet this thread hasn't grown very fast at all."

Fark's run out of viagra!
2002-10-16 04:26:54 AM  
Hmmmm...Pulled my head out and looked at the link summaries, here is a representative sampling:

"...say they believe he was acting alone,
even though he gives "Army of God" as his affiliation...

"...The envelopes, from the "Army of God," contained a harmless white powder...

"...Clayton Lee Waagner, maybe the only soldier in his self-proclaimed "Army of God,"
allegedly wielded a frightening poison pen and had a lot of people worried..."

Your Point? Exactly?
2002-10-16 04:33:42 AM  
Very funny, scrotum!
2002-10-16 04:34:19 AM  
"We must all act our consciousness and inflict economic harm upon all of those who are responsible for the destruction of the earth and its inhabitants. We encourage others to find a local Earth raper and make them pay for the damages they are inflicting on our communities and humanity's chance of survival. Furriers,meat packers, bosses, developers, rich industry leaders are all Earth rapers. They all profit off the destruction of life and liberty (whether it be animal, natural world, or worker...only language these people understand is money. We must inflict economic sabotage on all Earth rapers if we are ever to stop the madness we live in. To do so is not a crime, it is a necessity."
(In an ELF statement published by Humanitarians for Animal Rights Education following an Aug. 7, 1999 attack on the property of a Michigan vet working with fur farmers.)

Replace "Earth Raper" with "Infidel" and you pretty much have Al-Qaeda's latest threats...

Not saying that there are no Rep Rightwing Nutjobs out there, just saying that it is bogus to jump right to that
2002-10-16 04:35:14 AM  
Just a couple ideas and one totally unrelated observation.

The sniper could be a serial psycho. He/she is doing a credible job of trying to look that way. (The imediate response to the police chiefs comments on schools being safe and the tarot card thing.)

The sniper or snipers could be terroists. If so my guess is they are Israeli not arab. (Especially true if the vehicle is or was once involved with a moving company. Zionists seem to like that occupation for infiltration.)

The sniper could have wacked one of the victims on purpose or by contract and the others are cover. (Far fetched but it has been done before.)

Remember the Benet-Ramsey girl killed in Colorado? Odds are 100% it was family that did her. Why? Well there were no other such attacks either before or after. Psycho people, who molest and kill children, don't stop. Period! So it wasn't some psycho that snuck in and killed her. Now if you are murdered and it isn't a psycho or a drug deal gone sour it is someone close to you. Sadly 99.99999% of the time the murderer either sleeps with you or is related. Kind of supports the 1st sniper theory but only if someone is not trying to look like a psycho.
2002-10-16 04:38:21 AM  
2002-10-16 04:52:37 AM  
Zednaught: "Not saying that there are no Rep Rightwing Nutjobs out there, just saying that it is bogus to jump right to that"

I'm down with that. And I certainly agree, ELF is an increasingly dangerous group of radicals.

I'm surprised that those reports downplayed the significance of the Army of God nuts, though. (The plural is correct, and several killings have been linked to them.) Their website. Their rhetoric is also eerily like the al-qaeda rigamorale-- including the promise of a reward in heaven for righteous killings. No houris, though, so if I decide to convert to a fundamentalist flavour of anything, I think I'll go with Islam. Best Xtianity has to offer is a seat at the right-hand of the old man. Hmmmmmmm... preferential seating vs. eternal sexual ecstasy.. let me think about that for a while. Or right.. gotta die first.


Then there's Larry Wayne Harris -- the would-be domestic bioterrorist who conspired to release bubonic plague bacilli in NY.

The whole left wing/right wing dichotomy is a load of dog's bollocks-- a one dimensional spatial metaphor is wholly inadequate for describing even the simplest of political situations.
2002-10-16 04:55:52 AM  
I was starting to take that article seriously until I read their linked story on the Michael's craft store connection. These reporters are stretching more than Keanu Reeves playing Hamlet before a marathon.

(stretching more than TheAsi9000 searching for a metaphor)

2002-10-16 05:02:23 AM  
On other pages WND also points out that Oklahoma was also the work of Saddam Hussain.

What balderdash.
2002-10-16 05:03:19 AM  
Does anyone else pay attention to detail in these reports? I've just noticed silly little crap like "it has a broken right tail light"(reported last night, msnbc, home depot shooting), and then "it has a broken left tail light" (today, cnn, various morning news shows)

Ugh, it just makes me realize the news is worthless.
2002-10-16 05:08:18 AM  
"On other pages WND also points out that Oklahoma was also the work of Saddam Hussain."

Anything to get Rodgers and Hammerstein off the hook.

2002-10-16 05:10:48 AM  
I think the first question in any crime is determining the motive.

Al Qaeda has the motive.
2002-10-16 05:19:56 AM  
Nice one Larry!
2002-10-16 05:20:45 AM  
gator so do lots of people, you could argue that Shrub has a motive to increase fear (I am not arguing this BTW just pointing out that motive is not enough)
2002-10-16 05:32:24 AM  
Nice article from the post here:
2002-10-16 05:39:31 AM  
The snipers, like the Sept. 11 hijackers, seem highly disciplined and under control. They've stayed away from the District of Columbia...

DC Killing linked to [then] 3 in Md.

Gee, if they're that careful with facts, I completely trust their conclusions!
2002-10-16 06:04:56 AM  
Of course it's all speculation until they capture whoever is behind it.

But when you have a known enemy that has stated it plans to attack you, I think you can't discount it.
2002-10-16 06:16:57 AM  
The sniper is a hero, giving pop culture a much needed shot in the arm after the contrived, pretentious excess of this year's 9/11 Celebration.
2002-10-16 06:23:59 AM  
I think it is stupid to call him a middle eastern terrorist. Why? Because we don't farking know. Last I checked we have no idea who this guy is. Other than he's obviously nuts, and runs around in a white van. He's possibly schizophrenic, considering that he thinks he's god. Lets stick to the facts folks.
2002-10-16 06:28:28 AM  
Anybody ever stop to think that maybe this guy just got done visiting the tanning salon?
2002-10-16 06:30:42 AM  
Fenix - and it might not even be a white van he's running around in.

*see any other sniper post*
2002-10-16 07:08:47 AM  
I think it is stupid to say it is stupid to consider that Al Qaeda might be behind this.

(1) Al Qaeda has stated that they intend to conduct terrorist operations against us;

(2) Our government warns us that Al Qaeda may conduct terrorist operations; and

(3) Someone is terrorizing the Washington, D.C. area.

How can any sentient being NOT consider Al Qaeda a suspect under those circumstances?
2002-10-16 07:12:40 AM  
Gator, there are plaenty of home grown groups and individuals who could be involved. Blaming everythig on Queda may make life simpler, but there is zero evidence for it.
2002-10-16 07:14:57 AM  
It begins. The fearmongering, I mean.

Hytes Xian is right. But I think the sniper should instead be hanging around "ground zero," picking off any remainder of the wave of human garbage that appeared after 9/11 to try and make a profit by peddling trinkets. His first target should be the colossal asshole at Starbucks (?) who tried to charge those firefighters $130 for water.
2002-10-16 07:16:07 AM  
Harmonia -

Except the fact that they (Al-Qaeda) say they will target our economy, and this does affect peoples shopping habits, a teensy bit. *sarcasm*

So don't completely discount it, but don't day it's the wors of God or anything either.
2002-10-16 07:16:59 AM  
"and it might not even be a white van he's running around in"

This is a good point-- I'm reminded of a sketchy girl I was going with a couple years ago. She had this paranoid thing about white vans--

"Everywhere you look-- white vans. There's something going on with that." I was never clear if she thought they were following her or just creeping up and taking over the world.

God, I hope she's over that by now or she'll be climbing the walls.

Anyway, it's possible (though not probable) that the white van is just a meme-- once one witness's statement entered the public consciousness, every time a shot's fired, people look, and "By god! A white van!" Because they're freaking ubiquitous.
2002-10-16 07:19:20 AM  
World Net Daily, get news better than Goebbels' ever imagined.
2002-10-16 07:21:44 AM  
on a tangent, i really think that the air gun ads are a little bit too "whoa" right now

"Playing first person shooters?"
"Get real."


O, and its "dont SAY its the WORD of God", not "day its the wors of God"
2002-10-16 07:29:15 AM  
"World Net Daily, get news better than Goebbels' ever imagined."

As good a time as any, I suppose, to trot out one of my favourite quotes from my favourite post-modern novel:

"...the Illuminati will have the American people under tighter surveillance than Hitler had the Germans. And the beauty of it is, the majority of the Americans will have been so frightened by Illuminati-backed terrorist incidents that they will beg to be controlled as a masochist begs for the whip." From Illuminatus! (1975) by Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea. Yeah, that's the one that they set twenty-five years in the future, and also prominently featured an Anthrax scare in the U.S.

Read it and go mad. Laugh your ass off while you're at it.

Now, if you don't mind, it's a bit of AUM for me and to bed, to bed.
2002-10-16 07:39:25 AM  
KaylaKane, dont see it personally, if its that well organised why not pick better targets than just random people?
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