Have you seen any of the NEA newsletters? It is propaganda at it's worst. Many of these teachers (I'm from a family of teachers and had mother that spent 20 years on a school board) do not know or understand basic economics. Most of them have never made a payroll or run a business. Most of them have always had summer and christmas vacation off since they could remember because they have always been in school. The point I am getting at is that many of them have not had the real world kick them in the ass. Some of them keep their ideals from their youth because they are insulated from much of what goes on in the real world. For example it is easy to say raise taxes on Corporate America when you are not the one paying 60% or your profits in taxes when the dust settles. But you try and negotiate their package for the year they will fight you tooth and nail for every dime and day off. It doesn't matter if the school will have to cut band or basketball in order to accomodate them.

I just don't get young republicans. When I was their age (get off my lawn etc) I wanted to tear down the corporate state. These kids are hell bent on sucking up to power rather than railing against it. It just boggles the mind.

Power to them is the liberal establishment and they do have a point. (AKA the mainstream media, school system, and the Clintons.) It's the same thing you rebelled against but at different ends of the spectrum. They are tired of being told what to eat, when to smoke, what to drive, what to say, pretty much what to think.

/That being said I still didn't let them into our after hours parties.

ReaverZ The teachers were always out to get you weren't they


Nope. I got along with most of those libs pretty well. Still give my communist high school humanities teacher some shiat every once in a while. He is a great guy and a hellova football coach. Just has some batshiat crazy politics.

MFL: But you try and negotiate their package for the year they will fight you tooth and nail for every dime and day off.

HotWingConspiracy
How dare they.

They should fight for it. It's their salary. I'm not saying they did a bad thing. I'm just saying it's easy to pop off when it's not your money that is being taken away.
I'm not sayin..i'm just sayin.

Well except, they don't smoke or drink. Eat whatever they want and drive what ever cars dad buys for them. They are not rebelling because that would be going against the white power structure that they are trying to make even more entrenched and unchanging. At best they throw tantrums.


The power structure has changed with the baby boomers. When I was in college I couldn't go to the farking bookstore without seeing some activist handing out bullshiat flyers. They were worse than Jehovah witnesses. I'm sorry but rebelling against the "man" has a different meaning today.

Most high school kids are in their own world, they don't give a fark about some teachers "spin" on any given subject, they probably aren't even listening anyway, and when they are thinking critically about something it usually involves the opposite sex. It's a bit of histrionics to falsely bestow some ridiculous urgency in their political desires as a group, i.e. they don't give a fark...

I completely agree. I didn't give a fark when I was in school.

DarnoKonrad i>Now you're trying to sound reasonable? My mother worked for 4 years without a contract or raise. Some classes were being held in old broom closets. Buying hundreds of dollars in extra supplies every year on your own salary was standard practice. And most teachers take several hours of home work home each night after the school day is over. Most teacher work damn hard at what they do.

When you disparage teachers you sound like a worthless farking troll of the worst most ignorant clap trap conservative propagating tripe. Get bent.

Whatever dude. Yes they do work hard. So does eveyone else. My mother was a teacher at an inner city school in Dallas for 8 years before she had kids. After that she was on the local school board for 20 years. Both my sisters are teachers. My girlfriend is a teacher. So you can get off your high horse anytime.

Teachers salaries come from the local tax dollars. They get like 5% of their budget from the federal government. If the local economy isn't doing well the community probably will not pass referendums to raise taxes. (this is one of the few taxes I don't mind paying and I always vote yes when we have one) When this happens somthing has to give. My girlfriend was 1 year from being tenured when she lost her job because of budget cuts. Now she has to start over in another district with no job security. In the mean time the contract was negotiated and many of the older teachers got a very sweet deal. But the school district had to cut all middle school sports and many of their young staff. There is only so much money to go around.

Teacher do work very hard. But name another profession in the private sector that has 2 weeks off for christmas, spring break, every holiday known to man and 3 months off in the summer. I haven't taken a vacation in 11 years. My vacation is taken by the hour.

I'm pretty sure every person on our school board would fail every test on mathematics we give to our students -- based on our new State Standards (approved and rubber stamped by the school board, of course

The school board is a reflection of your community. Mabey your isn't a very bright one. We have a town like that next to us. In my community growing up there were business owners, a lawyer, and retired teachers on the board. It has gone down hill in recent years. They all were and still are college educated though.


This of course being the definitive difference between education and business -- we're not allowed throw out the bad ones. We have to make our product with the worst ingredients available. Change that and find a way for the bad kids to not turn to crime and I'll give you an impressive student output like never before seen.

That is a good point. Being a teacher now is tougher than it was 20 years ago because so many familys are farked up. They have to deal with a ton of shiat that they shouldn't have to.

DarnoKonrad You're a farking tool.

You are a little biatch.

MFL: I haven't taken a vacation in 11 years.

>Headso:i>so how's cheerleading those right wing ideals going? heh...

Living the dream baby!