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(Wall Street Journal)   Democrats on Bush: "He's homophobic and degrades gays." Democrats on Ahmadinejad, who executes gays, then claims Iran has no gays at all: "[crickets chirping]"   (opinionjournal.com) divider line
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Boritom
2007-10-02 2:53:16 PM  
Wow... the Dem's are full of fail!
 
smooshie
2007-10-02 2:54:00 PM  
First off, Democrats aren't silent about Iran, most of us just don't want to bomb the hell out of the innocent civilians there.

Second, WSJ sucks.

Third, everyone who generalizes about any group is always wrong.
 
ninth_level_dan
2007-10-02 2:55:54 PM  
that's the best troll-line the Bush-supporters can throw out there today?
 
wrapple
2007-10-02 2:57:20 PM  
I guess we need a resolution to bomb Bush?
 
HansensDisease
2007-10-02 2:57:59 PM  
That's right! Republicans are all about Gay rights now that half of them were forced out of the closet (or bathroom stall)
 
Gwendolyn
2007-10-02 2:58:00 PM  
Yeah because American Democrats have a say in Iranian politics!
 
orrinbloquy
2007-10-02 2:58:33 PM  
Republicans on N. Korea dictator, who actually has nukes: "[crickets chirping]"

Yeah. I thought so.
 
Diogenes [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-10-02 2:58:36 PM  
1) Amacrazyguy's not our Commander in Chief.

2) His comment was so stupid and inconceivable it deserved little or no comment.

3) You're allowed to criticize a president and his/her policies without being obligated to mention that yes, some countries have it worse.
 
albo
2007-10-02 2:58:57 PM  
*squints at headline looking for references to bombing iran*
 
Action Replay Nick
2007-10-02 3:00:04 PM  
I can't wait for the libs to get in here and defend this.

"Maybe he just meant all the queers in Iran are very masculine."

"Bush is worse."

Idiots.
 
Myrdinn [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-10-02 3:00:09 PM  
I forget, Columbia University, liberal or conservative?

Or, are we recreating Sophism in political dialog?
 
Diogenes [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-10-02 3:00:35 PM  
orrinbloquy: Republicans on N. Korea dictator, who actually has nukes: "[crickets chirping]"

Yeah. I thought so.

Or labelling the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization while the Pakistani ISS is complicit in hiding and supporting Al Quaeda and bin Laden.

Tit for tat gets old real fast.
 
albo
2007-10-02 3:02:20 PM  
orrinbloquy: Republicans on N. Korea dictator, who actually has nukes: "[crickets chirping]"

"Six-nation talks on North Korea's nuclear program entered a third day yesterday after US President George W. Bush authorized US$25 million in energy aid for the impoverished nation.

"Chief US negotiator Christopher Hill said he expected the morning's talks to centre on fuel aid, while also making a surprise announcement that the talks could wind up in the afternoon, a day ahead of schedule.

"White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said on Friday Bush had given the go-ahead for US$25 million in fuel aid for 50,000 tonnes of heavy fuel oil.

"The aid was in response to North Korea's progress on reporting and disabling its nuclear facilities as required in a February "Initial Actions" agreement aimed at halting Pyongyang's drive for nuclear weapons, he said.

"The move came after Hill said on Friday that North Korea had agreed to take further steps toward ending its nuclear weapons programs." AFP, BEIJING Sunday, Sep 30, 2007
 
HansensDisease
2007-10-02 3:03:34 PM  
Evolution of Republican talking points on Ahmadinejad:

OMG! The Libs are giving him a platform to speak unchallenged!
OMG! The Libs were rude to a world leader by challenging him to his face!
OMG! The Libs weren't rude enough to him! He persecutes people that we hate too!
 
DarthBrooks
2007-10-02 3:03:45 PM  
orrinbloquy: Republicans on N. Korea dictator, who actually has nukes: "[crickets chirping]"

Funny! Cheers.

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orrinbloquy
2007-10-02 3:05:05 PM  
Diogenes: Tit for tat gets old real fast.

B-b-b-b-but Clinton!
 
TalkingBaseball
2007-10-02 3:05:36 PM  
Wow. Blatant trolling. No wonder Fark sucks so much these days.

And before you tell me to quit, I did. But someone sponsored me for a month.
 
Dancin_In_Anson
2007-10-02 3:06:19 PM  
Well, duh...All the cool kids hate Bush. You don't want to be called "uncool" do you?
 
SchlingFo
2007-10-02 3:07:12 PM  
If my roommate is leaving his dirty laundry all over the place, I'm going to biatch at him until he stops.

If someone else's roommate is leaving his dirty laundry all over the place, I couldn't give a fark less.
 
what_now
2007-10-02 3:07:46 PM  
Ok submoron, I'm going to steal the boobies from another failtastick politics thread: "I'll say to you what I say to my six year old. We aren't talking about Iran right now. We're talking about you".


We. Are. Not. In. Iran.

Ok? Should I type slower?
 
staplermofo
2007-10-02 3:11:50 PM  
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
- Martin Luther King Jr., Letter from Birmingham Jail, April 16, 1963

Why do Democrats hate civil rights?
 
Action Replay Nick
2007-10-02 3:11:51 PM  
Look at 'em spin, Dancin_In_Anson. Look at 'em spin.

Their frothing derangement knows no bounds.
 
hitchking
2007-10-02 3:12:53 PM  
Dancin_In_Anson: Well, duh...All the cool kids hate Bush. You don't want to be called "uncool" do you?

*takes deep breath*

Okay, I'm going to read the headline again...

*reads headline*

All righty, now let me look at your comment.

Well, duh...All the cool kids hate Bush. You don't want to be called "uncool" do you?

...

Not seeing a connection.

*reads headline*

...

*reads comment*

Yeah, I've got nothing.
 
BooBoo23
2007-10-02 3:13:48 PM  
The Democratic Party's presidential hopefuls spent a fair bit of time Wednesday night debating what to do about Iran, without once mentioning Ahmadinejad's peculiar world view.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Ahmadinejad's laughably misguided views on homosexuals have nothing to do with the greater question of America's foreign policy.
 
Diogenes [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-10-02 3:14:14 PM  
albo: Wasn't Israel just in Syria because North Korea gave them some nuke tech? It would seem that the leash is not as short as you think it is.
 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark]
2007-10-02 3:14:49 PM  
smooshie: Democrats aren't silent about Iran

RTFA. It says no one's making a fuss specifically about Ahmadinejad's comment that Iran has no gays--especially since we know Iran actually executes gays.
 
Bildo
2007-10-02 3:15:27 PM  
smooshie: Third, everyone who generalizes about any group is always wrong.

Golf clap
 
Zarkin Frood
2007-10-02 3:16:06 PM  
smooshie: Third, everyone who generalizes about any group is always wrong.
ISWYDT.

Myrdinn: I forget, Columbia University, liberal or conservative?
Or, are we recreating Sophism in political dialog?
::perks up:: Oh, my bad, I thought you said "Sapphism"

Look, you guys. Enough Bush-bashing. I think we've given him enough undeserved credit already. Everyone knows that he is not really the one making the decisions. Sadly, he is not The Decider.
 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark]
2007-10-02 3:16:09 PM  
TalkingBaseball: And before you tell me to quit, I did. But someone sponsored me for a month.

Then they came over, put a gun to your head, and forced you to use the subscription?
 
TheConvincingSavant
2007-10-02 3:16:44 PM  
smooshie: First off, Democrats aren't silent about Iran, most of us just don't want to bomb the hell out of the innocent civilians there.

Can you show me where the contrary to your statement is Republican policy?

Don't be an infant. Nobody in US leadership wants to bomb innocent civilians.
 
Diogenes [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-10-02 3:17:18 PM  
Dancin_In_Anson: I've always had a soft spot for you, but to underscore hitchking's comment, that was a bit bot-like.
 
Bildo
2007-10-02 3:17:42 PM  
BooBoo23:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Ahmadinejad's laughably misguided views on homosexuals have nothing to do with the greater question of America's foreign policy.

What an amazingly mature response.

Now tell me, what should we do about the most proliferate terrorist
supporting nation on Earth's attempt to obtain atomic weapons?
 
albo
2007-10-02 3:19:00 PM  
Diogenes: It would seem that the leash is not as short as you think it is.

or that bill clinton and jimmy carter did when they negotiated a nuclear treaty with north korea, who proceeded to break it.

sure, i don't think anyone at the table thinks north korea is going to abide by it. but you gotta keep pressure on until the regime collapses
 
dogdaze
2007-10-02 3:19:20 PM  
TalkingBaseball: Wow. Blatant trolling. No wonder Fark sucks so much these days.

And before you tell me to quit, I did. But someone sponsored me for a month.

And yet you're still here?
 
Diogenes [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-10-02 3:21:34 PM  
albo: or that bill clinton and jimmy carter did when they negotiated a nuclear treaty with north korea, who proceeded to break it.

sure, i don't think anyone at the table thinks north korea is going to abide by it. but you gotta keep pressure on until the regime collapses

As for Clinton and Carter, see my thoughts on tit-fot-tat. As for your point about N. Korean compliance, I fully agree.
 
albo
2007-10-02 3:23:13 PM  
Diogenes: see my thoughts on tit-fot-tat

tit-for-tat or GTFO
 
albo
2007-10-02 3:23:49 PM  
forgot
;)
 
hitchking
2007-10-02 3:23:58 PM  
SquirrelsOfDoom: RTFA. It says no one's making a fuss specifically about Ahmadinejad's comment that Iran has no gays--especially since we know Iran actually executes gays.

So what exactly is your point? That Democrats support the execution of gays? Or that Democrats should be speaking out against their execution? I'd agree with that- but I'd say everyone should be speaking out against their execution. And Iran's persecution of the Bahai faith, and their support for terrorist groups, and what amounts to state-sanctioned anti-semitism, and their execution of political dissidents, and a whole SHIATLOAD of crazy ass shiat the Iranian leadership supports.

So what exactly is your point?
 
dj_spanmaster
2007-10-02 3:27:50 PM  
Zarkin Frood: smooshie: Third, everyone who generalizes about any group is always wrong.
ISWYDT.

Myrdinn: I forget, Columbia University, liberal or conservative?
Or, are we recreating Sophism in political dialog?
::perks up:: Oh, my bad, I thought you said "Sapphism"

Look, you guys. Enough Bush-bashing. I think we've given him enough undeserved credit already. Everyone knows that he is not really the one making the decisions. Sadly, he is not The Decider.

Stoking my fire again, I see
 
HansensDisease
2007-10-02 3:28:25 PM  
staplermofo:
- Martin Luther King Jr., Letter from Birmingham Jail, April 16, 1963

Why do Democrats hate civil rights?

Republicans hated Martin Luther King.
 
Dancin_In_Anson
2007-10-02 3:30:36 PM  
Diogenes: I've always had a soft spot for you, but to underscore hitchking's comment, that was a bit bot-like

Busy as shiat today and not on my A Game...

I hate it when work gets in the way of properly farking with people...
 
Bildo
2007-10-02 3:31:36 PM  
Diogenes:

As for Clinton and Carter, see my thoughts on tit-fot-tat. As for your point about N. Korean compliance, I fully agree.

Are you trying to say that we should ignore historical precedent? His comment did not appear to be a "tit-for-tat". Previous Administration's actions have led us to the point we are today, and they are completely relevant to the conversation.
 
Myrdinn [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-10-02 3:31:37 PM  
Zarkin Frood: Myrdinn: I forget, Columbia University, liberal or conservative?
Or, are we recreating Sophism in political dialog?
::perks up:: Oh, my bad, I thought you said "Sapphism"

Look, you guys. Enough Bush-bashing. I think we've given him enough undeserved credit already. Everyone knows that he is not really the one making the decisions. Sadly, he is not The Decider.

lol
Aye, it is annoying, though, for the top commedian of the country to be the President; and a true tragedy that it is unwitting comedy.
I mean, a few years back (okay, so, like, fifteen or sixteen years ago) when I was learning about all the presidents, I wondered what Warren G. Harding would be like.

This goes to proove, that Murphy's Laws are telepathic. Or, telepathetic, one.
 
Zarkin Frood
2007-10-02 3:37:19 PM  
dj_spanmaster: Stoking my fire again, I see

It's my thing... it's what I do.
 
Bill_Wick's_Friend
2007-10-02 3:38:57 PM  
Can you show me where the contrary to your statement is Republican policy?

http://washingtontimes.com/article/20070926/NATION/109260081/1001

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0907/5964.html

http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingswag/1814810

http://mediamatters.org/items/200606060009

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/08/20/070820fa_fact_boyer?currentPage=1 5

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/01/24/romney_talks_tough_on_iran /

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22508203-2703,00.html

http://news.aol.com/elections-blog/2006/11/23/bush-cheney-neocons-to-nuke-iran-i n-2007/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1890021/posts - note all the agreement from your Freeper bretheren on the need to start bombing.

etc etc.

(although I'm sure you'll parse and hem and haw all of those down to the "you can't prove that the things Bush and Cheney and Podhoretz and Kristol and the various GOP candidates discuss are actually policy" kind of nonsensensical hair-splitting.)
 
Zarkin Frood
2007-10-02 3:40:04 PM  
Myrdinn: Aye, it is annoying, though, for the top commedian of the country to be the President; and a true tragedy that it is unwitting comedy.
I mean, a few years back (okay, so, like, fifteen or sixteen years ago) when I was learning about all the presidents, I wondered what Warren G. Harding would be like.
This goes to proove, that Murphy's Laws are telepathic. Or, telepathetic, one.

I forgive you your grammatical transgressions as it appears that Pirate -and not English- is your native language. Carry on.
 
BooBoo23
2007-10-02 3:41:07 PM  
Bildo: What an amazingly mature response.

Why thank you. Do you feel that Iran's homosexual policies are an important facet in a debate over Iran's nuclear intentions?
 
dj_spanmaster
2007-10-02 3:41:45 PM  
Zarkin Frood: dj_spanmaster: Stoking my fire again, I see

It's my thing... it's what I do.

Well those guys aren't supposed to drink, so does that mean I can't buy you one?
 
alonzinator
2007-10-02 3:41:55 PM  
staplermofo: "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
- Martin Luther King Jr., Letter from Birmingham Jail, April 16, 1963

Why do Democrats hate civil rights?

Bildo: Now tell me, what should we do about the most proliferate terrorist
supporting nation on Earth's attempt to obtain atomic weapons?

focus on his views on homosexuality of course!!
 
Diogenes [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-10-02 3:44:15 PM  
Bildo: Are you trying to say that we should ignore historical precedent? His comment did not appear to be a "tit-for-tat". Previous Administration's actions have led us to the point we are today, and they are completely relevant to the conversation.

Of course not. But in the context of this thread I didn't want to belabor the point about N. Korea (realizing I had some complicity in it, too). The conversation is about the apparent absence of criticism of Captain Iran for his dumbass assertion.
 
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