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(Wall Street Journal)   The good news is that Hillary and Obama are giving all of Hsu's direct donations to charity. The obvious news is that Hsu's direct donations are only a tiny fraction of the bundled donations he sent them   (opinionjournal.com) divider line
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I_C_Weener [TotalFark]
2007-09-10 2:43:28 PM  
If only a system existed where politicians weren't bought and sold long before they could be voted on.
 
You_mean_Im_gonna_stay_this_color
2007-09-10 2:45:48 PM  
I wish this would bring down Hillary and Obama. then maybe Kucinich would have a chance? Maybe?
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-09-10 2:47:15 PM  
I remember the old days when dodgy and/or corporate campaign contributions sent a mess of people to jail, and they had to leave politics in disgrace.

We've come a log way since then.

/wanna go back
 
Broadcastdave
2007-09-10 2:50:43 PM  
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dletter
2007-09-10 2:58:40 PM  
Take the Paw family of Daly City, Calif., which is headed by a mail carrier who makes $49,000 a year. Members of the family have given almost $300,000 to politicians, including Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama, since 2004, often on or about the same days that Mr. Hsu gave money. The U.S. Justice Department is investigating whether any Hsu donors were illegally reimbursed for their contributions.

I assume the above would be illegal (since the Justice Dept is looking into it), which is good. The thing I see here though is wouldn't you be a little less obvious than having a family (of at least three) that makes at most (including spouses income) around $65-70,000 a year, give on average $100,000 a year to political campaigns? This seems really stupid, or nobody thinks they'll be caught.
 
dittybopper
2007-09-10 2:59:01 PM  
Obama sin laden?

/I see what I did there.
 
2wolves [TotalFark]
2007-09-10 2:59:48 PM  
As long as money = free speech this is what will happen for all sides. Unless you're Mr. Romney and buy your way in.
 
Mordant
2007-09-10 3:01:51 PM  
dletter: I assume the above would be illegal (since the Justice Dept is looking into it), which is good. The thing I see here though is wouldn't you be a little less obvious than having a family (of at least three) that makes at most (including spouses income) around $65-70,000 a year, give on average $100,000 a year to political campaigns? This seems really stupid, or nobody thinks they'll be caught.

Once again it's time to see if we have a justice system that can control our government. I hope it can, but I'm not entirely optimistic.
 
BooBoo23
2007-09-10 3:07:27 PM  
I bet those charities will keep like 5% and give all the money back to the campaigns. And they'll get away with it because nobody keeps track of campaign donations.
 
NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-09-10 3:42:01 PM  
Why don't we just put all 300,000,000 American's names into a hat and pick a President. We get such absolute shiat running how could that possibly be any worse?

Think of the possibilities:

President Henry Earl.
 
Cagey B
2007-09-10 4:01:03 PM  
NewportBarGuy: Why don't we just put all 300,000,000 American's names into a hat and pick a President. We get such absolute shiat running how could that possibly be any worse?

Think of the possibilities:

President Henry Earl.

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I prefer President Windom Earle myself.
 
Gulper Eel
2007-09-10 4:35:34 PM  
Weren't we told with certainty just last week by a great many leftist Farkers that this was all a non-story cooked up by the haters at the Wall Street Journal and that this pattern of donations was simply a coincidence and b-b-b-b-b-but Tom DeLay?
 
Afternoon_Delight
2007-09-10 5:00:17 PM  
The best the dems have to offer...


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eraser8
2007-09-10 5:08:21 PM  
How is this a major story?

Are right wingnuts really as desperate as their peddling of this would indicate?
 
tallguywithglasseson
2007-09-10 5:21:01 PM  
What this story is missing is any wrongdoing on the part of the candidates.

Not saying there isn't any, it's just that there's none that have come out.

Yet.

Wake me when political favors, bribes and such make it into the story.
 
Nightsweat
2007-09-10 5:24:37 PM  
Alan Fabian (new window)did what now?
 
demanton
2007-09-10 5:25:36 PM  
Three straight shreiky Hillary threads on the politics tab! Yay!
 
Headso
2007-09-10 5:26:10 PM  
this kinda scandal isn't that exciting, thus nobody will care, you republicans need to find some dems that diddle kids like you guys do, that gets people pissed off enough.
 
Hagbardr
2007-09-10 5:26:25 PM  
If the Hsu fits....
 
stirfrybry
2007-09-10 5:28:28 PM  
You_mean_Im_gonna_stay_this_color: I wish this would bring down Hillary and Obama. then maybe Kucinich would have a chance? Maybe?

I LOL'd
 
Dispector
2007-09-10 5:29:03 PM  
Wow... presidential candidates using underhanded and illegal methods to receive monetary contributes. I never would've seen this one coming.

/more of the same
 
JabronieRamone
2007-09-10 5:29:37 PM  
Public campaign finance reform is what's needed. Candidates shouldn't have to go to slugs like this or the guy working for Romney.
 
JimmyTheHutt
2007-09-10 5:30:25 PM  
I sense the presence of worthless attempts to equate this with Jack Abramoff.

Not even close, folks.

Move along, nothing to see here.
 
essucht
2007-09-10 5:30:37 PM  
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Donkey-B0ng
2007-09-10 5:30:47 PM  
Meh, at least they're not making millions off dodgy contracting, or simply stealing votes to win elections.
 
m0llusk
2007-09-10 5:31:58 PM  
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!1
 
a dingo ate me baby
2007-09-10 5:33:03 PM  
It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
-Douglas Adams
 
tuna fingers
2007-09-10 5:33:30 PM  
I wish I had a shiatload of money and power. First, I would use my capital to ensure that all polit...

er... who am I kidding.

If I had a shiatload of money, I'd get two chicks... a lot!
 
Rovian
2007-09-10 5:34:10 PM  
So Clinton raises something like $30 million in the first quarter, and some republicans are trying to make a mountain out of a $125,000 molehill. Sounds like some sore loser cry baby republicans to me.
 
Mighty Horse
2007-09-10 5:34:12 PM  
Donkey-B0ng: Meh, at least they're not making millions off dodgy contracting, or simply stealing votes to win elections.

But but but...

/How does sand look from that angle?
 
captainktainer
2007-09-10 5:34:28 PM  
Dispector: Wow... presidential candidates using underhanded and illegal methods to receive monetary contributes. I never would've seen this one coming.

/more of the same

Erm, what did Clinton and Obama do that's illegal? Are they supposed to do a background check on every single person who donates money to their campaigns? How, exactly, are they supposed to know which are the fraudulent donations and which are the legitimate ones that Hsu also provided?
 
DrForrester
2007-09-10 5:37:08 PM  
C'mon everybody! Jump on! It's a big ol' scandal! WSJ and Hugh Hewitt say so! Forget about Craig, and Abramoff, and Iraq, and all that!

Hello? Hello?

Damn.
 
cirby
2007-09-10 5:37:12 PM  
eraser8:
How is this a major story?

The part about how one of the two major political parties - the one that recently ran on a "no more corruption" platform - took in literally millions of dollars from a convicted felon with no visible means of making that money. The bad part is that this guy has one major obvious connection in his background - organized crime - and a possible other one - the Chinese government. You know - the same Chinese government that was involved in the last Clinton campaign fund problems.

You see, when someone wants to bribe a politician nowadays, they use "cutouts" - people with no provable connection to the people paying the bribe. They give a huge pile of money to the politician's campaign fund (or their party), and while their name isn't on the check, they make it known that this largesse comes from someone with a very specific interest.

This campaign fund money helps get their bribee elected, and if some cash gets siphoned off (to pay for things like renting corporate jets or staying in five-star hotels), that's okay by them.
 
Vic Sage
2007-09-10 5:38:42 PM  
Please nobody panic! This is all okay! It is only Democrats that are involved and they would never do anything to hurt us. Let them do what they want and they will give us all every thing we need; health care, security, lollipops, kittens and warm fuzzies. AND it won't cost anybody anything.

If this were the farking Republicans it would be an evil plot against the American public.
 
The Glorified Jailer
2007-09-10 5:39:08 PM  
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poot_rootbeer
2007-09-10 5:41:23 PM  
What this story is missing is any wrongdoing on the part of the candidates.

Worth repeating.
 
iaazathot
2007-09-10 5:42:24 PM  
This message brought to you by Rupert Murdoch.

If Senator Clinton or Obama are guilty of wrong doing, then they should be punished. I am sure some evidence of wrong doing will be coming out in a hard hitting piece of professional journalism...
 
Descartes
2007-09-10 5:42:54 PM  
A total of 120 participants in the fund-raising scandal either fled the country, asserted their Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, or otherwise avoided questioning.

Is that really true? It doesn't sound right, but if so, it is.... disturbing.
 
Vic Sage
2007-09-10 5:44:08 PM  
tallguywithglasseson: What this story is missing is any admission of wrongdoing on the part of the candidates.

Don't hold your breath, but at the same time don't breath too deeply , there is a lot of smoke in the air. Must be a fire somewhere.
 
3dman
2007-09-10 5:44:20 PM  
iaazathot: This message brought to you by Rupert Murdoch.

If Senator Clinton or Obama are guilty of wrong doing, then they should be punished. I am sure some evidence of wrong doing will be coming out in a hard hitting piece of professional journalism...

At least some inyourendo
 
EdNortonsTwin
2007-09-10 5:45:24 PM  
This just in 'Background Check' required for every political donor!!!!
 
nomad
2007-09-10 5:45:31 PM  
THE CLINTON CRIME LIST

Lying Under Oath as President - 2 times
Lying Under Oath as Governor - 5 times
Lying Under Oath as Attorney General
Lying Under Oath in a Deposition
Lying Under Oath to a Grand Jury
Lying Under Oath as a Lawyer
Lying While Taking Oath of Enlistment
Lying Under Oath as Senator
Abuse of Power
Obstruction of Justice
Treason
Sedition
Corruption
Coercion
Graft
Bribe Solicitation
Taking Bribes
Bribery of Cabinent Members
Bribery of State Officials
Commercial Bribery
Commercial Bribery Receiving
Illegal Gift-Taking
Falsifying Business Records
Misapplication of Property
Criminal Use of a Computer
Misuse of Franking Privelege
Receiving Dual Compensation
Receiving Unlawful Gratuities
Malfeasance of Office
Perjury
Subornation of Perjury
Perjury by Inconsistent Statements
Aggravated Perjury
Criminal Trespass
Witness Intimidation
Witness Tampering
Jury Tampering
Tampering With Physical Evidence
Tampering With Public Records
Ethics Violations
Intentional Interference in the Administration of Justice
Refusing to Assist a Judicial Officer
Hindering Prosecution in the First Degree
Hindering Prosecution in the Second Degree
Unlawful Contact in the First Degree
Misrepresentation
Civil Contempt of Court
Criminal Contempt of Court
Contempt of Congress
Contempt of the American People
Deception
Assisting a Criminal
False Information or Report
False Accusation
False Testimony
Factually False Testimony
False Swearing
Making a False Statement
Unsworn Falsification
Misappropriating Funds
Misconduct
Marital Misconduct
Serious Misconduct
Professional Misconduct
Official Misconduct
Notorious Misconduct
Misconduct Involving a Controlled Substance
Obstruction of the Judicial Process
Misuse of Confidential Information
Interference With Official Proceedings
Recklessness
Grand Larceny
Extortion
Embezzlement
Vandalism
Blackmail
Cruelty to Animals
Obstruction of Highways
Substance Abuse
Evidence Suppression
Illegal Foriegn Campaign Funding
Failure to Request a Criminal History for Employees
Aiding and Abetting Espionage
Aiding and Abetting Foriegn Dictators
Aiding and Abetting Arsonists
Aiding and Abetting Drug Traffic
Aiding and Abetting Organized Crime
Aiding and Abetting Terrorism
Aiding and Abetting a Known Felon
Aiding and Abetting Terrorists and Terrorist Organizations
Terroristic Threatening
Providing Material Support to Terrorists
Engaging in Transactions with Terrorists
Improper Exports of Sensitve Technology
Attempted Intimidation of Prosecutors
Failure to Declare Income
Failure to Investigate Drug Trafficking
Scheme to Defraud
Real Estate Fraud
Voter Fraud
Mail Fraud
Wire Fraud
Paternity Fraud
Interstate Transportation to Defraud
Destruction of Business Records with Intent to Defraud
Criminalizing Frauds on Financial Institutions
Use of State Police for Personal Purposes
Illegal Loan Extraction
False Reports by Medical Examiners and Others Investigating Suspicious Deaths
Improper Futures Trading
Illegal Use of the Executive Branch
Character Defamation
Destruction of Evidence
Political Espionage
Money Laundering
Criminal Negligence
Possesion of False Papers
False Acknowledgment
False Declaration Before a Court
Wrongful Handling of Public Documents
Concealing or Covering Up of Material Fact
Misprison of Felony
Criminal Deception
Disclosure of Confidential Information
Failure to Account for Public Money
Recieving or Concealing Stolen Goverment Property
Failure to Deposit Federal Monies
Wrongful Solicitation of Embezzlement or Gifts
Use of a Public Building to Solicit Political Funds
Accepting Fee for Federal Employment
Offering to Procure an Appointive Public Office
Taking Illegal Kickbacks
Racketeering
Investing Racketeering Income
RICO Conspiracy
Conspiracy
Conspiracy to Conceal
Conspiracy to Pervert Justice
Conspiracy to Murder
Conspiracy to Engage in Racketeering
Conspiracy to Defraud the Federal Government
Conspiracy to Violate Immigration Laws
Wrongful Destruction of War Records
Malicious Injury to Property
Acquiring an Enterprise Through Racketeering
Interstate Transportation of Stolen Property
Offering Gratuities or Graft to a Public Official
Soliciting or Accepting Illegal Gratuities
Offering Gratuities to a Witness
Seeking or Accepting Illegal Compensation
Influencing or Injuring Officers, Jurors or Witnesses
Obstructing Agency Proceedings
Obstructing Criminal Investigations
Threatening Victims, Witnesses or Informants
Harassing Victims, Witnesses or Informants
Retaliating Against Victims, Witnesses or Informants
Falsely Making or Forging a Public Record
Falsely Making or Forging a Document
Uttering or Publishing a False Public Record
Transmitting a False Record to the United States
Misuse of Government Files
Desecration of Federal Ethics Laws
Judicial Intimidation
Conflict of Interests
Illegal Campaign Activity
Misuse of Corporate Assets
Ordering Politically Motivated Audits
Ordering Politically Motivated Investigations
Timing of War Influenced by Political Considerations
Foreign Influence Peddling
Regular Influence Peddling
Providing False and Misleading Testimony
Misapplying Funds
Criminal Violation of the Privacy Act
Criminal Solicitation
Evisceration of the Right to Habeas Corpus
Misuse of Taxpayer Funds
Interfering with a Court Order
Theft of Government Property
Abuse of Taxpayer Financed Travel
Anti-American Espionage
Jeopardizing National Security
Murder by Accessory by Witness Tampering
Murder by Accessory by Forgery
Solicitation to commit murder by accessory
Accessory to Multiple Deaths
Accessory to Murder in the Second Degree
Accessory to Aggravated Murder
Accessory to Felony Murder
Accessory to Criminal Libel
Accessory to Unlawful Flight to Avoid Prosecution
Accessory to Arson
Accessory to Criminal Negligent Burning
Accessory After the Fact
Accessory to Mayhem
Accessory to Criminal Mischief
Accessory to Home Invasion
Accessory to Abduction
Accessory to Causing Mental Harm to a Child
Custodial Interference in the First Degree
Failure to Report Child Abuse
Child Endangerment
Cruelty to Persons
Sexual Harassment
Indecent Exposure in the Second Degree
Indecent Assault
Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress
Malicious Wounding
False Imprisonment
Unlawful Restaint
Involuntary Servitude
Sexual Abuse of Employees
Lewd and Lascivious Conduct
Exchange of Promotions or Benefits for Sexual Favors
First Degree Sexual Assault
Second Degree Sexual Assault
Third Degree Sexual Assault
Fourth Degree Sexual Assault
Gross Sexual Assault
Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
Sexual Battery
Intent to Rape
Suspicion of Rape
Rape
Forcible Rape
Oral Copulation
Intent to Commit Sexual Assault
Misdemeanor Sexual Assault
Sexual Misconduct in the First Degree
Criminal Sexual Conduct by Force and Coercion
Unlawful Sexual Contact
Unlawful Sexual Activity with a Minor
Forcible Touching
Consensual Digital Penetration
Lewd Proposal
Sexual Battery
Penetration by a Foriegn Object
Failure to Register as a Sexual Offender
Deriliction of Duty
Corrupting Public Discourse
Contributing to the Delinquincy of a Minor
Unfit to hold a law license
Conduct Unbecoming a President
Impersonating a Public Servant
Squandering the Public Trust

(248 crimes - so far) (Only 35 of them are for SEX)
 
Saiga410
2007-09-10 5:46:20 PM  
I did a ctrl F and did not see the name Resco in there. hmmmm.
 
Nemo's Brother
2007-09-10 5:47:39 PM  
Don't forget all of the nuclear secrets Bill gave China. They owe Hilary more than a few thousand dollars.
 
UrinalPooper
2007-09-10 5:50:03 PM  
Hey partisan zombies, maybe some people who lack any party affiliation would prefer to see the dems run Kucinich or Gravel so that there would be a candidate we might actually want to support.

/would also prefer that the republicans gave the nomination to Ron Paul.
//let's face it, empress hilary will be taking the throne in '09 and both parties are perfectly content with that.
 
JohnBigBootay
2007-09-10 5:50:31 PM  
THE nomad CRIME LBoobiesing worthless crap that is way too long
Not previewing his post
Being a dick
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antidisestablishmentarianism
2007-09-10 5:52:05 PM  
in threads like this you can tell what people are just plain old dem haters (afternoon delight, vic sage). also you can tell who is just a troll (nomad)

and the left quit apologizing.
fark
 
Fruckedup
2007-09-10 5:52:18 PM  
RTFA

These fundraising scandals are important. Yet the American public does not care about political scandals unless it involves sex. OMG the president got a BJ!!! Sellout the U.S. to a foreign goverment? *yawn* who cares.

The 96' election Clinton campaign had large donations sourced from China's military. The specific donation mentioned in the article was a Chinese lieutenant colonel in aerospace. Chinese aerospace was having problems with multi-stage rockets blowing up on their launchpads. When Clinton was elected, he signed off on American aerospace corporations showing the Chinese miltary how to build rockets to launch rockets into space. You know these rockets just happen to enable China to launch nuclear warheads over large distances. What country would China like the capability to hit with nuclear weapons?
Thanks Mr. President.
 
FlashHarry [TotalFark]
2007-09-10 5:52:20 PM  
nomad: THE CLINTON CRIME LIST



oral copulation? penetration by a foreign object? those are "crimes" i can understand! but recklessness? say it ain't so!

/gee, i wonder if anyone could make such a list for president bush...
 
Obama bin Kenobi
2007-09-10 5:52:55 PM  
For the money, she better be a good lay.
 
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