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(Some Guy)   Reform-minded trustees are infuriating Dartmouth faculty, who expect only money--not opinion or oversight--from alumni donors   (opinionjournal.com) divider line
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2007-09-02 4:18:12 PM  
And I should care because?
 
2007-09-02 4:28:37 PM  
So, rich people should be allowed to dictate curriculum simply because of the size of their wallets? Pfft. What a great idea, submitter.

/not
 
2007-09-02 7:06:45 PM  
HomerButt: So, rich people should be allowed to dictate curriculum simply because of the size of their wallets the people who actually pay for goods and services should just shut up, fork over the money and have no say in what they get?

FTFY.
 
2007-09-02 7:29:34 PM  
MyNameIsNotMervGriffin: the people who actually pay for goods and services should just shut up, fork over the money and have no say in what they get?

So, alumni donations are goods and services?
 
2007-09-02 8:43:55 PM  
But rather than accept that rebuke and seek some common ground, the school's president, James Wright, and his trustee allies now seem prepared to overhaul the school's governance more or less by fiat. The scheme the board's governance committee is most likely to adopt this week has been dubbed "The Harvard Plan" because it would preserve the faint form of democracy while arrogating most power to an unelected internal committee. At Harvard, this is called the "Corporation"; a larger elected body, the Overseers, has little power.

Nice to see how liberal elitists REALLY handle opposition. It's a good working example of how they'd run things country wide if they had the opportunity.
 
2007-09-02 8:45:34 PM  
Anybody have a link for the history of all this? I seem to remember hearing bits and pieces about infighting at the University on who could be on the board of trustees. It would have been interesting for the article to give a good bit of background.
 
2007-09-02 9:06:14 PM  
Liberal elitists?

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2007-09-02 9:34:25 PM  
The wingnut WSJ editorial page bashing an institution that doesn't toe the Republican line? Well, color me surprised.

A pox on your house, shrubmitter.
 
2007-09-02 9:36:29 PM  
Is it smart for the WSJ op-ed writers and Weaver95s of the world to assume that anyone who's educated is a liberal? I mean, I wouldn't know without checking if Dartmouth really was "liberal" in terms of how it approaches its own governance, but then I don't read a lot David Horowitz. Actually, it sounds like the charge here is that these "liberals" are behaving like what I would call conservatives--running scared from oversight and accountability, and demanding free money just because they're special. If it's true, well, shame on them. Who do they think they are, mine owners?

Seems to me that even if the people I was debating really WERE the ones with more knowledge or intelligence or what have you, I wouldn't call attention to that point. But hey, I'm just a stupid highly educated liberal.
 
2007-09-02 10:06:55 PM  
"Academic politics is much more vicious than real politics. We think it's because the stakes are so small." Richard Neustadt, Harvard

(Yes, he said it way before Kissinger re-phrased it and claimed it as his.)
 
2007-09-02 10:12:32 PM  
A little peek-a-google on one of the board members by petition nomination, T.J. Rodgers , led to this letter of his (new window).

I chuckled.

Via his Wiki entry. (new window).
 
2007-09-02 10:44:04 PM  
Dartmouth alumni also rejected the College's move to change the school mascot from the American Indian back in the 1970's. The best the campus could come up with since then has been "Keggy the Keg."
 
2007-09-02 11:46:43 PM  
HomerButt: So, alumni donations are goods and services?

No, the college education they help pay for is the goods and services.
 
2007-09-03 12:09:13 AM  
MyNameIsNotMervGriffin: No, the college education they help pay for is the goods and services.

The alumni are already graduated and, except for possibly outstanding student loans, have already paid their tuition. If they wish to buy more "goods and services," they should become students again.
 
2007-09-03 12:30:24 AM  
hogans: Dartmouth alumni also rejected the College's move to change the school mascot from the American Indian back in the 1970's. The best the campus could come up with since then has been "Keggy the Keg."

Big Green WHAT? Big Green WHAT? Big Green Boogah!

/Columbia Marching Band survivor.
 
2007-09-03 12:35:00 AM  
The way I see it, it isn't about liberal or conservative. The University clearly wants alumni dollars, but doesn't want meaningful alumni input. It's the same at every private university.

The problem is that academics have zero sense of the world outside the ivory tower. They seem surprised that someone would give them money and want accountability for it as a condition of the giving. That is amusing.
 
2007-09-03 12:39:09 AM  
TofuTheAlmighty: The alumni are already graduated and, except for possibly outstanding student loans, have already paid their tuition. If they wish to buy more "goods and services," they should become students again.

I see it as more like "here's some money, but you have to do things my way, or you don't get the money."

That doesn't sound terribly illogical.

I don't donate to my alma mater directly, because it's run by complete jerkoffs, always has, always will. I prefer to donate directly to the Marching Band instead. I know the money will be spent wisely on liquor.
 
2007-09-03 2:33:38 AM  
From the Boston Globe:


Dartmouth Governance Contested By Alumni
By Ryan Haggerty
THE BOSTON GLOBE
August 30, 2007

The debate over the future of Dartmouth College's board of trustees escalated Tuesday, after a group of graduates placed a full-page ad in the New York Times contending that the college's leaders are trying to stifle alumni.

The ad urged graduates to "save democracy at Dartmouth" by preserving the collective voice of alumni, who currently choose half of the board's 16 elected trustees.

The latest development in a years-long struggle over the future of the board and the Ivy League school in Hanover, N.H., stems from a study a committee of the board conducted this summer to examine its size, nominating process, and electoral structure.

Some board members and alumni say the study was launched in response to the election, beginning in 2004, of four alumni-nominated trustees who have criticized Dartmouth's administration and overall direction.

Critics say that the committee - scheduled to present its recommendations at the board's three-day retreat, beginning Sept. 7 - could propose changes that would limit the alumni's influence over the board.

"This has become very polarized, and that's not good for Dartmouth," said Stephen F. Smith, a University of Virginia law professor who was elected to the board by alumni in May and has consistently spoken out against the administration. "The governance approach of the Dartmouth administration is if you can't beat them, disenfranchise them. ... If they go ahead and take this drastic step and disenfranchise alumni, I don't know if Dartmouth will ever be the same."

Ed Haldeman, the board's chairman and president and chief executive of Putnam Investments in Boston, said the study of the board's governance structure was not intended to weaken alumni's influence. But he also said the study was prompted in part by the nature of the past few campaigns for the board's alumni-controlled seats.

Haldeman, a member of the governance committee, said that any board should periodically review its governance and that it was time to evaluate Dartmouth's.

"It seems to me that our last three or four elections for trustees at Dartmouth have been somewhat divisive, somewhat political," he said. "Certainly the last one resulted in a heavy amount of spending to try to get elected. We hadn't had that before."

Dartmouth's 18-member board is comprised of the state's governor, the school's president, eight trustees appointed by the board, and eight trustees nominated by alumni.

The alumni trustees have usually been nominated by the alumni council, but Smith and three other alumni trustees used a rarely used clause that allows candidates to run if they each gather 500 signatures from alumni.

Smith said he spent about $75,000 on his campaign. Since 1891, half of the board's seats have been reserved for trustees nominated by alumni.

Todd Zywicki, an alumni trustee elected by petition in 2005, said he and others worry that Dartmouth is gradually moving away from its historic focus on undergraduate education toward a greater emphasis on research.

"Dartmouth has resisted that trend because of its democratic traditions and its small and engaged board," said Zywicki, a law professor at George Mason University in Virginia.

"I'm afraid that the governance committee will take a step that will sever that tie. I'm afraid that Dartmouth College will, a generation from now, be a different, less distinctive, and weaker institution than it is today," he said

Haldeman declined to speak about the specifics of the committee's upcoming recommendations, and said the group could recommend no changes.

But Smith said the recent ad campaign shows that the board's attempt to possibly change governance has struck a chord with Dartmouth alumni.

The Committee to Save Dartmouth College was started by two anonymous alumni earlier this month, with $300,000 in alumni donations. It sponsored Tuesday's ad in the Times, two ads that ran on the paper's website earlier this month, and another ad scheduled to run in the Wall Street Journal.
 
2007-09-03 2:34:10 AM  
Not exactly, TofuTheAlmighty. Tuition at Dartmouth covers roughly half the expense of the education; the remainder is paid for by alumni donations.

(As a Dartmouth alumnus, I actually know this. I don't have the numbers with me but I could get them within a day or two.)

Point being, since alums pay for half of the education, they'd certainly have some right of oversight.

Dartmouth *could* double tuition, I suppose, but I'm pretty sure a year is now over $45,000. $90,000/year is likely to deter most, if not all, prospective students.
 
2007-09-03 11:49:44 AM  
Haha, Dartmouth.

Been there, done that. One year was more than enough.

Enjoy freezing your balls off this winter. It's much warmer in Nashville.
 
2007-09-03 2:01:44 PM  
Dear old Dartmouth, set a watch
Lest the old traditions fail!


/go Indians
 
2007-09-03 4:20:21 PM  
I'm not saying that the administrators aren't elite or liberal. But they are not academics.
 
2007-09-04 8:40:08 PM  
Personally, I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities. We didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of college. You don't know what it's like out there. I've worked in the private sector. They expect results.
 
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