AcheronX: Yankee and Red Sox fans are obnoxious, but at least they have something legit to brag about, unlike Cubs fans.

Wait until they win one.

As a Yankees fan, I am obviously biased. However I agree that Red Sox fans are the worst. For years the Red Sox were second fiddle (if that) to the Yankees in the Al East. I'm talking all the way back to the days of Ruth. Sure they had a couple of good seasons in there and actually made it to the World Series a few times, only to lose in often tragic fashion.

Finally, in 2004, they come back against the Yankees in a huge way and go on to win the World Series. Congratulations. Apparently unbeknownst to many Red Sox fans, some team wins the WS every year. One World Series win, however long in coming, does not magically erase years of falling short. All of a sudden, Sox fans felt like they had a right to sit at the big table, alongside the Yankees and act like their team was and always has been on equal footing. The only thing Sox fans have going for them is that their team happens to be in the same division as the Yankees, otherwise they would be the team with the local following and the crappy history that nobody cares about-- kind of like the Pirates.

Tastes Like Chicken: FTFY

Thanks.

You proved my point better than I was able to.

Tastes Like Chicken: What's a little trash talk between fans?

My Bad.

I keep forgetting that 'you're gay' counts as a witty retort in Boston.

Dead for Tax Reasons: yes, typical douchebag yankees fan. baseball would not exist without the center of the universe that is the yankees.

Yeah, because that's what I said.

Dead for Tax Reasons: Wise_Guy: Dead for Tax Reasons: yes, typical douchebag yankees fan. baseball would not exist without the center of the universe that is the yankees.

Yeah, because that's what I said.

The only thing Sox fans have going for them is that their team happens to be in the same division as the Yankees, otherwise they would be the team with the local following and the crappy history that nobody cares about-- kind of like the Pirates.

i stand by my statement

How do you get 'baseball would not exist without the Yankees' from the above statement?

I was talking about the Red Sox, and despite what you may think, the Red Sox =/= baseball itself. Hell I never even said the Red Sox wouldn't exist, just that they wouldn't get the attention they do without being in the same division as the Yankees.

Tastes Like Chicken: The Red Sox have a history going back a long time with or without the Yankees.

True. So does every other team that's been around from that time period.

That the two teams' histories dovetail together does not mean that the only reason people like the Sox is because of the Yanks.

I don't think anyone has said or would say that someone would like the Red Sox because of the Yankees. That makes no sense.

I know people in England and New Zealand who are Sox fans and they couldn't care less about "the division" or the Yanks. They like the character of the team.

So you know some foreign pink hats. Congratulations.

That the Yanks have been lacking in character for so many years does not make them the big bad big table team.

Just because they didn't refer to themselves as 'idiots' or create a catchy slogan such as "Cowboy Up" does not mean they lacked character.

Though now that the Sox are spending just as much, it is silly to keep trying to play the underdog card.

Agreed.

beerrun: History doesn't mean dick. Those teams of bygone days are long gone and whoever keeps bringing up the past (usually Yankee and Celtic fans) can suck my ass. The only thing that matters in the here and now is how your team is playing right now, this season and who will win this year. After that, it will be history, too.
So you Yankee and Celtic fans, keep bringing up all those championships past if you must, but it don't mean shiat today.

I agree with you.

You should also add that Sox fans should stop talking about 2004 like it was the only year a WS was held.