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(ESPN)   "They call themselves Red Sox Nation, the same arrogant way the Cowboys call themselves America's Team. And the whole thing is getting a little old"   (sports.espn.go.com) divider line
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2007-08-31 7:04:21 AM  
What a farking tool. Everyone knows Yankee fans are the worst fans in the history of organized sports. Ok, Raiders fans are a very close second.
 
2007-08-31 7:14:49 AM  
Tat'dGreaser: What a farking tool. Everyone knows Yankee fans are the worst fans in the history of organized sports. Ok, Raiders fans are a very close second.

I would venture that Notre Dame fans rank up there..
 
2007-08-31 7:23:16 AM  
lilplatinum: I would venture that Notre Dame fans rank up there..

This.
 
2007-08-31 8:07:42 AM  
lilplatinum: I would venture that Notre Dame fans rank up there..

I'll take your word for it, I don't watch college football. I never understood the appeal, if you didn't go to that school why watch?
 
2007-08-31 8:28:03 AM  
Eagles fans are the absolute worst.
 
2007-08-31 8:30:49 AM  
lilplatinum: I would venture that Notre Dame fans rank up there

corporatestool: This.

lilplatinum, as a Texan, I'm surprised that you didn't mention Aggies. Because if there were ever a bunch of people who act like tools about their sports team, it's the Gig 'em Aggies! crowd.

/I'd be worried about getting lynched for that comment, but they won't be bothering me since I'm white
 
2007-08-31 8:34:22 AM  
Humean_Nature: lilplatinum, as a Texan, I'm surprised that you didn't mention Aggies. Because if there were ever a bunch of people who act like tools about their sports team, it's the Gig 'em Aggies! crowd.

/I'd be worried about getting lynched for that comment, but they won't be bothering me since I'm white


The aggies don't even warrant my attention, our rival is OU as far as I am concerned. A bunch of hicks with penis envy who have to live in a really crappy town fly below my radar :)

/Thread title was better when it wasn't a quote from the damn article...
 
2007-08-31 8:35:00 AM  
...and cubs fans call themselves Schaumburg. ;)

However, as an unbiased observer I must state that Yankees pink hats are the most annoying fans. After 9/11 if you were worried someone thought you might hate America, and you couldn't score a NYPD or FDNY hat, you wore a Yankees hat. What the fark is with that? Also, how did the Mets get shafted on this?

Douchebag Lawnguylanders who come up here and can't park or put down the fake tanner are pretty much guaranteed to be Yankees fans. This is not a coincidence.

Not all Yankees fans are douchebags, but many douchebags are indeed Yankees fans.
 
2007-08-31 8:36:32 AM  
soze

As a corrollary to that, everyone here in Germany seems to have a Yankees hat.. I've asked a dozen people wearing said hat who the Yankees shortstop was. I think 2 people knew what a shortstop even was and only one of those could answer the question correctly. One said mickey mantle.

I got annoyed by our bandwagon fans in the state, but this is a new level :)
 
2007-08-31 8:39:28 AM  
Yankee and Red Sox fans are obnoxious, but at least they have something legit to brag about, unlike Cubs fans.
 
2007-08-31 8:40:47 AM  
Allright allright, we'll give some land to the Yankees and Sox fans... But we don't want the Irish!
 
2007-08-31 8:43:27 AM  
AcheronX: Yankee and Red Sox fans are obnoxious, but at least they have something legit to brag about, unlike Cubs fans.

Awww c'mon, we had that one guy. Umm...that....guy....ummmm.....shiat.

lilplatinum: Allright allright, we'll give some land to the Yankees and Sox fans... But we don't want the Irish!

*shakes tiny internet fist*
*drinks some stout*
*does a little jig*
 
2007-08-31 8:46:35 AM  
I don't consider myself a sports fan by any stretch, but is there so little going on in the wild world of sports that this prick can take a column to whine about the fans of various teams?
 
2007-08-31 8:55:36 AM  
The same arrogant way the Braves call(ed) themselves America's Team?
 
2007-08-31 9:00:00 AM  
I am dead farkin' sick of hearing Johnny-come-lately Red Sox fans (and critics too) make any kind of comparison to Dallas's use of "America's Team." STFU.

"America's Team" is not arrogant. It was a brilliant marketing move by Cowboys management way back in the day. They figured out that there was a huge market for NFL football that was not aligned with any particular team, and they crafted an image of the Cowboys as representative of the values of that market, not dissimilar to a good-guy persona in wrestling. That's pretty funny now considering what we know about the lifestyles of those players, but the point is that the marketing had nothing to do with arrogance; it was a classic statement of shared values, which incidentally, still works in America's exploding Hispanic population. Resign yourselves to the Cowboys being America's Team for the foreseeable future.

And ignorant Red Sox (and Pats) fans can suck it.
 
2007-08-31 9:06:18 AM  
soze: Also, how did the Mets get shafted on this?

The Mets get shafted on everything. It's in their charter.
 
2007-08-31 9:12:41 AM  
filth: Resign yourselves to the Cowboys being America's Team

Not in this or any other lifetime.
 
2007-08-31 9:22:13 AM  
AcheronX: Yankee and Red Sox fans are obnoxious, but at least they have something legit to brag about, unlike Cubs fans.

Wait until they win one.
 
2007-08-31 9:26:01 AM  
"Red Sox Nation" and "The Curse" are both phrases coined by the pathetic Dan Shaughnessy, and no actual self-respecting longtime fan of the team will ever use either expression, unless it's with calculated sarcasm.
 
2007-08-31 9:27:48 AM  
Wise_Guy: AcheronX: Yankee and Red Sox fans are obnoxious, but at least they have something legit to brag about, unlike Cubs fans.

Wait until they win one.


I don't know. I could see that fan base being less obnoxious about it. They'd probably just get together over beers and sing Steve Goodman songs. Too bad I won't live to see it. I turn 35 next month.

dstanley: filth: Resign yourselves to the Cowboys being America's Team

Not in this or any other lifetime.


Even when reality sucks, it's still reality.
 
2007-08-31 9:30:45 AM  
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2007-08-31 9:33:29 AM  
filth: Wise_Guy: AcheronX: Yankee and Red Sox fans are obnoxious, but at least they have something legit to brag about, unlike Cubs fans.

Wait until they win one.

I don't know. I could see that fan base being less obnoxious about it. They'd probably just get together over beers and sing Steve Goodman songs. Too bad I won't live to see it. I turn 35 next month.


You kidding? Some morons actually rioted when the cubs won the 2003 NLDS.

/off-topic: I hope Steve Bartman's doing okay for himself.
 
2007-08-31 9:42:59 AM  
As a Yankees fan, I am obviously biased. However I agree that Red Sox fans are the worst. For years the Red Sox were second fiddle (if that) to the Yankees in the Al East. I'm talking all the way back to the days of Ruth. Sure they had a couple of good seasons in there and actually made it to the World Series a few times, only to lose in often tragic fashion.

Finally, in 2004, they come back against the Yankees in a huge way and go on to win the World Series. Congratulations. Apparently unbeknownst to many Red Sox fans, some team wins the WS every year. One World Series win, however long in coming, does not magically erase years of falling short. All of a sudden, Sox fans felt like they had a right to sit at the big table, alongside the Yankees and act like their team was and always has been on equal footing. The only thing Sox fans have going for them is that their team happens to be in the same division as the Yankees, otherwise they would be the team with the local following and the crappy history that nobody cares about-- kind of like the Pirates.
 
2007-08-31 9:55:45 AM  
Wise_Guy: As a Yankees fan, I am obviously biased. However I agree that Red Sox fans are the worst. For years the Red Sox were second fiddle (if that) to the Yankees in the Al East. I'm talking all the way back to the days of Ruth. Sure they had a couple of good seasons in there and actually made it to the World Series a few times, only to lose in often tragic fashion.

Finally, in 2004, they come back against the Yankees in a huge way and go on to win the World Series. Congratulations. Apparently unbeknownst to many Red Sox fans, some team wins the WS every year. One World Series win, however long in coming, does not magically erase years of falling short. All of a sudden, Sox fans felt like they had a right to sit at the big table, alongside the Yankees and act like their team was and always has been on equal footing. The only thing Sox fans have going for them is that their team happens to be in the same division as the Yankees, otherwise they would be the team with the local following and the crappy history that nobody cares about-- kind of like the Pirates.
I'm gay.


FTFY
 
2007-08-31 9:56:24 AM  
Tastes Like Chicken: FTFY

Awesome. Just awesome.
 
2007-08-31 9:57:19 AM  
Tastes Like Chicken: FTFY

Thanks.

You proved my point better than I was able to.
 
2007-08-31 10:01:07 AM  
Tat'dGreaser: Tastes Like Chicken: FTFY

Awesome. Just awesome.


Yeah, that part where he questioned the guys sexuality, that was so original. A wicked pissah of a zinger!
 
2007-08-31 10:03:51 AM  
Wise_Guy: Thanks.

You proved my point better than I was able to.


What's a little trash talk between fans? That's like half the fun of rooting for a team.

Anyway, I grew up in Boston and they taught me about the curse of the bambino in 1st grade during class, so I am biased too. I will always root for the Sox.

Of course now I live outside Philly, so my desire to root for a team that always loses in tragic and stupid ways is now satisfied by the Iggles.
 
2007-08-31 10:05:40 AM  
Tastes Like Chicken: Of course now I live outside Philly, so my desire to root for a team that always loses in tragic and stupid ways is now satisfied by the Iggles.

How has living in Philly affected your desire to get a mullet and denim jacket?
 
2007-08-31 10:07:08 AM  
lilplatinum: How has living in Philly affected your desire to get a mullet and denim jacket?

I don't live in SOUTH PHILLY.

But you should see the rims on my car.

/not really
 
2007-08-31 10:07:35 AM  
Tastes Like Chicken: What's a little trash talk between fans?

My Bad.

I keep forgetting that 'you're gay' counts as a witty retort in Boston.
 
2007-08-31 10:07:46 AM  
lilplatinum: Yeah, that part where he questioned the guys sexuality, that was so original. A wicked pissah of a zinger!

It just reminds me of that "futility" pic. Someone takes the time to write out this huge post and someone responds with a nice small little zinger.

/Also anytimes Yankee fans get cut down is awesome
 
2007-08-31 10:11:48 AM  
Wise_Guy: As a Yankees fan, I am obviously biased. However I agree that Red Sox fans are the worst. For years the Red Sox were second fiddle (if that) to the Yankees in the Al East. I'm talking all the way back to the days of Ruth. Sure they had a couple of good seasons in there and actually made it to the World Series a few times, only to lose in often tragic fashion.

Finally, in 2004, they come back against the Yankees in a huge way and go on to win the World Series. Congratulations. Apparently unbeknownst to many Red Sox fans, some team wins the WS every year. One World Series win, however long in coming, does not magically erase years of falling short. All of a sudden, Sox fans felt like they had a right to sit at the big table, alongside the Yankees and act like their team was and always has been on equal footing. The only thing Sox fans have going for them is that their team happens to be in the same division as the Yankees, otherwise they would be the team with the local following and the crappy history that nobody cares about-- kind of like the Pirates.


yes, typical douchebag yankees fan. baseball would not exist without the center of the universe that is the yankees.
 
2007-08-31 10:14:32 AM  
Dead for Tax Reasons: yes, typical douchebag yankees fan. baseball would not exist without the center of the universe that is the yankees.

Yeah, because that's what I said.
 
2007-08-31 10:16:55 AM  
Wise_Guy: Dead for Tax Reasons: yes, typical douchebag yankees fan. baseball would not exist without the center of the universe that is the yankees.

Yeah, because that's what I said.


Dont bother, whatever you write just appears to the bandwagon haters as "26, 26, 26, lol 1918 26 26"
 
2007-08-31 10:18:45 AM  
Wise_Guy: Dead for Tax Reasons: yes, typical douchebag yankees fan. baseball would not exist without the center of the universe that is the yankees.

Yeah, because that's what I said.

The only thing Sox fans have going for them is that their team happens to be in the same division as the Yankees, otherwise they would be the team with the local following and the crappy history that nobody cares about-- kind of like the Pirates.


i stand by my statement
 
2007-08-31 10:21:27 AM  
filth:

"America's Team" is not arrogant.

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2007-08-31 10:23:56 AM  
Tat'dGreaser: It just reminds me of that "futility" pic. Someone takes the time to write out this huge post and someone responds with a nice small little zinger.

That was all I was going for. I started to write an equally long winded reply, but then said, "aw fark it this is dumb" and thought it would be funny to "fix the post" instead.

The Red Sox have a history going back a long time with or without the Yankees. That the two teams' histories dovetail together does not mean that the only reason people like the Sox is because of the Yanks. That's just self-centered and silly. I know people in England and New Zealand who are Sox fans and they couldn't care less about "the division" or the Yanks. They like the character of the team. That the Yanks have been lacking in character for so many years does not make them the big bad big table team. They are just a big payroll. Though now that the Sox are spending just as much, it is silly to keep trying to play the underdog card.
 
2007-08-31 10:26:21 AM  
Dead for Tax Reasons: Wise_Guy: Dead for Tax Reasons: yes, typical douchebag yankees fan. baseball would not exist without the center of the universe that is the yankees.

Yeah, because that's what I said.

The only thing Sox fans have going for them is that their team happens to be in the same division as the Yankees, otherwise they would be the team with the local following and the crappy history that nobody cares about-- kind of like the Pirates.

i stand by my statement


How do you get 'baseball would not exist without the Yankees' from the above statement?

I was talking about the Red Sox, and despite what you may think, the Red Sox =/= baseball itself. Hell I never even said the Red Sox wouldn't exist, just that they wouldn't get the attention they do without being in the same division as the Yankees.
 
2007-08-31 10:28:25 AM  
Tastes Like Chicken: I know people in England and New Zealand who are Sox fans and they couldn't care less about "the division" or the Yanks.

I don't think I have ever met a Sox fan who is indifferent about their standing in the division or the Yankees.. Methinks your friends in England and New Zealand know nothing about baseball, took a trip to boston once, and then decided to adopt the team they saw... Thats what I did with european kickball.
 
2007-08-31 10:29:01 AM  
lilplatinum: Dont bother, whatever you write just appears to the bandwagon haters as "26, 26, 26, lol 1918 26 26"

I've hated them since I was a kid living in Illinois. Cubs fans, White Sox fans and Red Sox fans all hate the Yankees. I don't know, even as a kid I just developed this hatred for them. Yes, probaly because they won all the time. Jealousy is a motherfarker, but their fans didn't help at all.
 
2007-08-31 10:31:47 AM  
Anyone who would question the legitimacy of the term "Red Sox Nation" need only count the red jerseys at an away game (pick one). The bump in attendance isn't just seen... it's heard loud & clear.

Sox fans: Hope to win every year
Yankee fans: Expect to win every year
 
2007-08-31 10:32:45 AM  
Tat'dGreaser: lilplatinum: Dont bother, whatever you write just appears to the bandwagon haters as "26, 26, 26, lol 1918 26 26"

I've hated them since I was a kid living in Illinois. Cubs fans, White Sox fans and Red Sox fans all hate the Yankees. I don't know, even as a kid I just developed this hatred for them. Yes, probaly because they won all the time. Jealousy is a motherfarker, but their fans didn't help at all.


Yeah I'm sure, my hatred of the boston half of my family and the accent exacerbated my feelings of rivalry.
 
2007-08-31 10:33:22 AM  
Tastes Like Chicken: The Red Sox have a history going back a long time with or without the Yankees.

True. So does every other team that's been around from that time period.

That the two teams' histories dovetail together does not mean that the only reason people like the Sox is because of the Yanks.

I don't think anyone has said or would say that someone would like the Red Sox because of the Yankees. That makes no sense.

I know people in England and New Zealand who are Sox fans and they couldn't care less about "the division" or the Yanks. They like the character of the team.

So you know some foreign pink hats. Congratulations.

That the Yanks have been lacking in character for so many years does not make them the big bad big table team.

Just because they didn't refer to themselves as 'idiots' or create a catchy slogan such as "Cowboy Up" does not mean they lacked character.

Though now that the Sox are spending just as much, it is silly to keep trying to play the underdog card.

Agreed.
 
2007-08-31 10:34:06 AM  
Impartial observer:

At Safeco Field, when out of town teams come in, this is the order of obnoxiousness I see:

1) Red Sox. On their own planet. Will step on your toes to shove past and not apologize, a cardinal sin up here. Will start a fight in the stands for no reason other than drunk. Will not stfu.

2) Yankees. Pushy, but you can mock them and they take it, might return a joke or two. A lot more self assured than Red Sox fans, who seem perpetually "chip on the shoulder."


We had some people up here wearing "Yankees Suck" t shirts and the New York fans actually thought it was funny. Which it was. I could imagine doing that to Boston fans and they'd want to pick a fight.
 
2007-08-31 10:37:47 AM  
Wise_Guy
It was more of an exaggeration to point out yankee fans' sense of self-importance.
Most yankee fans I know seem to think that if their team doesn't win it all every year, they were robbed or cheated, and every other team sucks.

i never said anything about the red sox being the only thing or anything at all. i don't hear shiat about the sox here anyway; about as much as i do about the d-rays. I actually was sick of sox coverage from reading the boston papers while i was on vacation
 
2007-08-31 10:38:19 AM  
The only thing Sox fans have going for them is that their team happens to be in the same division as the Yankees, otherwise they would be the team with the local following and the crappy history that nobody cares about

History doesn't mean dick. Those teams of bygone days are long gone and whoever keeps bringing up the past (usually Yankee and Celtic fans) can suck my ass. The only thing that matters in the here and now is how your team is playing right now, this season and who will win this year. After that, it will be history, too.
So you Yankee and Celtic fans, keep bringing up all those championships past if you must, but it don't mean shiat today.

/Red Sox fan
//Hates Celtics (and Yankees)
 
2007-08-31 10:39:58 AM  
lilplatinum: Yeah I'm sure, my hatred of the boston half of my family and the accent exacerbated my feelings of rivalry.

Well that makes sense. I can see where you're coming from then.

Generation_D: We had some people up here wearing "Yankees Suck" t shirts and the New York fans actually thought it was funny. Which it was. I could imagine doing that to Boston fans and they'd want to pick a fight.

Yea, I can't even defend Sox fans. Most of the assholes I hated in high school were Sox fans.
 
2007-08-31 10:42:41 AM  
Tat'dGreaser: lilplatinum: Yeah I'm sure, my hatred of the boston half of my family and the accent exacerbated my feelings of rivalry.

Well that makes sense. I can see where you're coming from then.


Nothing like a split household to keep it entertaining.. My brother was especially pissed when I Dressed my newborn nephew up in baby yankees hat and jeter jersey.
 
2007-08-31 10:46:00 AM  
beerrun: History doesn't mean dick. Those teams of bygone days are long gone and whoever keeps bringing up the past (usually Yankee and Celtic fans) can suck my ass. The only thing that matters in the here and now is how your team is playing right now, this season and who will win this year. After that, it will be history, too.
So you Yankee and Celtic fans, keep bringing up all those championships past if you must, but it don't mean shiat today.


I agree with you.

You should also add that Sox fans should stop talking about 2004 like it was the only year a WS was held.
 
2007-08-31 10:47:35 AM  
lilplatinum: Nothing like a split household to keep it entertaining.. My brother was especially pissed when I Dressed my newborn nephew up in baby yankees hat and jeter jersey.

Oh you bastard!
 
2007-08-31 10:48:28 AM  
lilplatinum: Nothing like a split household to keep it entertaining.

My wife is a Mets fan. We used to fight over the TV when both games were on at the same time. Now we have a widescreen that allows you to split the screen in half so we can watch both games.

Now we only fight about which team gets the sound.

/I only fight on principle-- I can't stand the Yankees announcers
 
2007-08-31 10:48:32 AM  
This needs to go to the main page. All out brawl Friday.
 
2007-08-31 10:49:32 AM  
Tat'dGreaser: This needs to go to the main page. All out brawl Friday.

Yeah, I get a submission through for once and I'm gonna be off work before it clears.
 
2007-08-31 10:51:02 AM  
Dead for Tax Reasons: Wise_Guy
It was more of an exaggeration to point out yankee fans' sense of self-importance.


Ok, but you were specifically addressing me as a "typical douchebag Yankees fan."

Most yankee fans I know seem to think that if their team doesn't win it all every year, they were robbed or cheated, and every other team sucks.

I can only speak for myself, and I don't feel that way at all.
 
2007-08-31 10:56:07 AM  
SupplySideJesus: need only count the brand spanking new red jerseys

FTFY
 
2007-08-31 10:56:43 AM  
Wise_Guy: Dead for Tax Reasons: Wise_Guy
It was more of an exaggeration to point out yankee fans' sense of self-importance.

Ok, but you were specifically addressing me as a "typical douchebag Yankees fan."


I don't know you, but you seem to be espousing the opinions of a "typical douchebag yankees fan" whenever i see you post
 
2007-08-31 11:03:52 AM  
lilplatinum:

Nothing like a split household to keep it entertaining..


Don't even go there. I'm a product of a mixed marriage that was somewhat taboo in its time, a White Sox fan and a Cubs fan. Two weekends a year that house becomes inhospitable to human life.

Of course, what do I do? I end up with a farking Red Sox fan for a boyfriend. So two weekends a year, someone ends up on the couch.

Now I just want the Red Sox to get their asses kicked so that I can have peace in my home this October. :P

/I still hope it comes out that Varitek touches little boys. :P
 
2007-08-31 11:06:54 AM  
What's even more annoying about the Red Sox fans is when they play the ethnicity card. "My grandmother's 3rd cousin's former roommate is from Ireland!" Somehow people who have some sort of imagined connection to Ireland are more entitled to root for the Red Sox. Same rules apply to Notre Dame.

All Red Sox fans I know are nice enough people, but they make me want to like the Yankees, which gives me douche chills of the highest order.
 
2007-08-31 11:07:03 AM  
soze: Don't even go there. I'm a product of a mixed marriage that was somewhat taboo in its time, a White Sox fan and a Cubs fan. Two weekends a year that house becomes inhospitable to human life.

That's interesting, my folks are like that too. Dad grew up in the southside, mom in the westside.

/My dad also looks like every one of those guys in the "Da Bears" sketch on SNL
//EXACTLY
 
2007-08-31 11:08:12 AM  
Tat'dGreaser: /My dad also looks like every one of those guys in the "Da Bears" sketch on SNL
//EXACTLY


Ditka vs. God... Gods got a good defense, Ditka 7.. god 3
 
2007-08-31 11:08:46 AM  
lilplatinum: Tat'dGreaser: /My dad also looks like every one of those guys in the "Da Bears" sketch on SNL
//EXACTLY

Ditka vs. God... Gods got a good defense, Ditka 7.. god 3


That's a trick question, Ditka is God.
 
2007-08-31 11:09:36 AM  
Dead for Tax Reasons: I don't know you, but you seem to be espousing the opinions of a "typical douchebag yankees fan" whenever i see you post

I wrote this in a thread yesterday:

"I think the ump was right to toss Joba in this situation. I didn't feel that way at the time, but as I look at it now, there were two possibilities to explain the fastballs: A) he wanted to hit him, or B) they got away from him. Either way, the umpire has a responsibility to protect the batter in that situation. How would the ump explain himself if the next pitched hit Youkilis in the head and he was seriously injured? After the first pitch no warning was given because it could have been a one time wild pitch. After the second pitch, you have to take the first one into account and get the pitcher out of there. You can't warn then and wait to see what happens on the third pitch."

I'm sure this is the opinion of douchebag Yankees fans everywhere.

I think you're just trolling me now.
 
2007-08-31 11:09:49 AM  
filth: Even when reality sucks, it's still reality.

You have an interesting view of this "reality"--tell me more.
 
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2007-08-31 11:29:57 AM  
Tat'dGreaser: /My dad also looks like every one of those guys in the "Da Bears" sketch on SNL

Hah, fortunately my dad's got Irish and Austrian genes, nothing Polish or else Park Ribs would have killed him years ago.

Our most recent family portrait is in my profile, FWIW. I got frostbite that night in December waiting to see that damn trophy. Totally worth it.
 
2007-08-31 11:34:53 AM  
icallhimgamblor: What's even more annoying about the Red Sox fans is when they play the ethnicity card. "My grandmother's 3rd cousin's former roommate is from Ireland!" Somehow people who have some sort of imagined connection to Ireland are more entitled to root for the Red Sox. Same rules apply to Notre Dame.

I've never noticed this in regards to the Sox, but I will admit that Southie and Dorchester are pretty much all Irish, and a more steadfast and emotional stronghold of Red Sox sentiment you will not find in this life or the next.
 
2007-08-31 11:35:19 AM  
Ya know though.. for as much shiat as I give Yankees fans.. and vice versa, at least us two groups of fans know our teams, teams history, and can talk baseball. Other fans.. not so much (imho).
 
2007-08-31 11:36:02 AM  
soze: Hah, fortunately my dad's got Irish and Austrian genes, nothing Polish or else Park Ribs would have killed him years ago.

Our most recent family portrait is in my profile, FWIW. I got frostbite that night in December waiting to see that damn trophy. Totally worth it.


That's the odd thing, he is Irish German.
 
2007-08-31 11:37:43 AM  
I forgot to ask, what's the trophy for? My computer screen at work sucks so I can't see well. Oh, and you like WaxTrax records?? Awesome.
 
2007-08-31 11:40:37 AM  
Dr.Knockboots: Ya know though.. for as much shiat as I give Yankees fans.. and vice versa, at least us two groups of fans know our teams, teams history, and can talk baseball.

Tat'dGreaser: I forgot to ask, what's the trophy for?

..you were saying..?

Seriously though, I agree with that statement.
 
2007-08-31 11:43:48 AM  
Wise_Guy: ..you were saying..?

Seriously though, I agree with that statement.


Hahaha hey! I said my screen at work sucks!
 
2007-08-31 11:45:54 AM  
Tat'dGreaser: Hahaha hey! I said my screen at work sucks!

I know, I know.

The timing was too perfect to not take advantage of that one.
 
2007-08-31 11:46:18 AM  
Wise_Guy: I know, I know.

The timing was too perfect to not take advantage of that one.


True, can't blame ya on that one. I'd probably do the same.
 
2007-08-31 11:46:27 AM  
submitter: They call themselves Red Sox Nation, the same arrogant way the Cowboys call themselves America's Team.

e.g. Gator Nation
 
2007-08-31 12:07:17 PM  
The rest of America calls the Cowboys America's team. Cowboys' fans from TX do not.
 
2007-08-31 12:08:06 PM  
In times like these, I can't help but hope for al-Qaeda to nuke a Yankees-Junior Yankees game.
 
2007-08-31 12:12:26 PM  
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2007-08-31 12:12:35 PM  
Bucky Effing Dent.
Aaron Effing Boone.
someday, somehow, i will earn an Effing middle name!

Cowboys' fans from TX do not.

QFT.
 
2007-08-31 12:15:58 PM  
GoDawgs!: The same arrogant way the Braves call(ed) themselves America's Team?

When was this? I thought we were America's Team that always beat up on the NL East, but then would suck it up in the playoffs and do nothing else. But now we just suck.
 
2007-08-31 12:16:40 PM  
The Cowboys did not come up with America's Team, NFL Films did.

Get it rigth subby
 
2007-08-31 12:17:37 PM  
Breaking News: Some Sports Fans Hate Other Sports Fans In Different Cities.
 
2007-08-31 12:18:10 PM  
lerxst2112: GoDawgs!: The same arrogant way the Braves call(ed) themselves America's Team?

When was this? I thought we were America's Team that always beat up on the NL East, but then would suck it up in the playoffs and do nothing else. But now we just suck.


I think TBS actually started that during the 80's since the Braves were seen virtually nationwide, despite the fact that they were basically god-awful.
 
2007-08-31 12:21:54 PM  
As for the whole "Red Sox Nation" thing, it doesn't really bother me all that much. For the most part, loyal Red Sox fans are wonderful to talk baseball with.

It's the college-aged and younger fans who are the most obnoxious, which can basically be said for every team in the world, except the Eagles, who have fans of every age who are despicable and need to be isolated from the rest of society.
 
2007-08-31 12:22:51 PM  
Yanks_RSJ

I think TBS actually started that during the 80's since the Braves were seen virtually nationwide, despite the fact that they were basically god-awful.

Shhhh...don't tell Red Sox fans this but because I freaking hated TBS so much the team I really hate the most is...the Braves. It almost never comes up, since they're NL, except for the "natural rivalry" interleague games, but I have (and Red Sox fans might kill me for this) rooted for the Yanks in the WS, when they've faced the Braves.
 
2007-08-31 12:25:03 PM  
The Bengal Nation rejoices.
 
2007-08-31 12:25:31 PM  
Wise guy, what a stupid, ignorant, arrogant, baseless statement. First of all, you based your judgement on a hypothetical situation that will never happen (red Sox yankees being in dif divisions). Second, the Sox currently own the best road attendance in the league. Third we are one of the most if not the most rapid fan base in our own market in any sport in this country. So, to entertain your retarded comment, the Sox would be just fine without the yankees. If anything 2 other teams would get the rub from the Sox not being in the yankees division. Those teams being whomever their new rivals were.
 
2007-08-31 12:29:20 PM  
It's comical that a fan base that so loved to scream, chant and make signs idolizing 1918 has their collective panties in a bunch from Sox fans saying 2004.

filth
I am dead farkin' sick of hearing Johnny-come-lately Red Sox fans (and critics too) make any kind of comparison to Dallas's use of "America's Team." STFU.

"America's Team" is not arrogant. It was a brilliant marketing move by Cowboys management way back in the day. They figured out that there was a huge market for NFL football that was not aligned with any particular team, and they crafted an image of the Cowboys as representative of the values of that market, not dissimilar to a good-guy persona in wrestling. That's pretty funny now considering what we know about the lifestyles of those players, but the point is that the marketing had nothing to do with arrogance; it was a classic statement of shared values, which incidentally, still works in America's exploding Hispanic population. Resign yourselves to the Cowboys being America's Team for the foreseeable future.

And ignorant Red Sox (and Pats) fans can suck it.


Awww, someone ate a big batch of grumble cakes this morning. The Cowboys haven't been in the top tier of the NFL in almost 10 years. They've won a single playoff game since 1996...that's the kind of results America can really get behind!

Listen Paco, if people want to refer to the Patriots or the Red Sox as "America's Team" that's their business. I'm sure you'll get over it. Otherwise the line to lick my grundle starts to the left, thanks.
 
2007-08-31 12:30:55 PM  
That's why we should send troops and financial aid to the Duchy of Devil Ray.
 
2007-08-31 12:33:36 PM  
Patronick313: Awww, someone ate a big batch of grumble cakes this morning. The Cowboys haven't been in the top tier of the NFL in almost 10 years. They've won a single playoff game since 1996...that's the kind of results America can really get behind!

Listen Paco, if people want to refer to the Patriots or the Red Sox as "America's Team" that's their business. I'm sure you'll get over it. Otherwise the line to lick my grundle starts to the left, thanks.


Nice usage of "grundle." That's an old favorite of mine, used beautifully.

The Cowboys were America's team when Roger Staubach was the QB and Tom Landry was the coach. Now that they've got that clown Tony Romo and Terrell Owens, everybody hates them.
 
2007-08-31 12:37:47 PM  
Also, what is so wrong with the term red Sox nation? You are talking about a team whose fan base is not only broad but also enjoys traveling to road games. Myself and my friends see a couple new stadiums every year as do many other fans in Boston proper. It is also easier and cheaper to get tickets to road games. So, what term would you like to describe this phenom? I don't consider the Sox Americas team, nor do I think any Sox fan would appreciate that description. We aren't exactly none for our kindness to other fans of our team who aren't educated in baseball.
 
2007-08-31 12:38:07 PM  
the_cnidarian: The rest of America calls the Cowboys America's team. Cowboys' fans from TX do not.

I haven't heard anyone except the most idiotic of sportscasters call the Cowboys "America's Team" in years, thank the maker.

Anyway, in Kansas City, the difference between the Sox and Yankees fans in town is pretty clear. The Red Sox have enough fans to be vocal, but not as many as the Royals fans. They cheer and boo as normal. The Yankees fans are usually in the majority, and take winning as a given. They boo more than they cheer, because they don't expect to do badly against the lowly Royals.

The annoying thing this year was that they've usually been right. Why the Royals can win series with Detroit, Los Angeles, Seattle and Boston but NOT New York... that I'll never understand.

I will say this for Yankees fans - they do tend to be older. They seem more likely to be long-time fans. I tend to see Sox gear on college age folks.
 
2007-08-31 12:38:15 PM  
Wait, why does anyone care? "Red Sox Nation" doesn't even presume as much as "America's Team" did. We outnumber home fans in road games. That's a nation. The Yankees have an Empire, we have a Nation.

Don't like it? Well then maybe you should get a fanbase as loyal and dedicated as either of those two teams have got. biatching about it just reminds the Sox and Yanks fans that they have more in common with each other than the rest of you sad sacks, and that's an awkward moment to say the least.
 
2007-08-31 12:38:43 PM  
GimpyNip: Wise guy, what a stupid, ignorant, arrogant, baseless statement.

Oh good. Glad to see the regulars have finally made it to this thread ;)

First of all, you based your judgement on a hypothetical situation that will never happen (red Sox yankees being in dif divisions).

No, part of the last sentence had a hypothetical situation in it. That's all.

Second, the Sox currently own the best road attendance in the league.

Meaning what? How does this disprove anything I've said?

Third we are one of the most if not the most rapid fan base in our own market in any sport in this country.

I think you mean 'rabid'. Come to think of it, I don't understand the rest of that sentence either. "in our own market in any sport in this country.'? WTF does that mean?

So, to entertain your retarded comment, the Sox would be just fine without the yankees. If anything 2 other teams would get the rub from the Sox not being in the yankees division. Those teams being whomever their new rivals were.

So my statement that the Sox benfit because they are in the same division as the Yankees is retarded, but if my hypothetical did happen, some other team would benefit from the Sox being in their division?
 
2007-08-31 12:39:09 PM  
I agree with the headline/quote. That is all.
 
2007-08-31 12:42:01 PM  
A point not made yet: One thing that ruined the whole "Red Sox Nation" meme was the Sox/NESN adopting it. To illustrate, a story from a few years ago:

My daughter had a friend over, and she was lucky enough to be going to a game. I asked her if she was a member of RSN, meaning, is she a true fan. Her reply was, "How do I join?" I laughed, and said if she had to ask, then she wasn't a member. The point of course, is that true fans are fans whether the team is winning or losing, and don't need to carry a membership card to prove it.

Of course, the joke was on me. Now NESN would like us all to believe we need to join (pay money) to be part of RSN. Remy is running for president of RSN. They've ruined the whole thing.
 
2007-08-31 12:44:28 PM  
PiperArrow:

Ugh, yes. If I hear anything else about the stupid election, there might have to be an assassination. I try not to get too worked up about the efforts to raise money outside of ticket sales since Fenway is small and they put the money back on the field, but... really, guys. The "official" RSN bit is almost as annoying as Sox Appeal. Let it go.
 
2007-08-31 12:46:16 PM  
I'm more pissy about the Yankees Universe T-shirts than Red Sox Nation (as a name), because those shirts were done in response to that name. WTF, the Yankees don't do shiat in response to those biatches, at least in principle.

PiperArrow: Now NESN would like us all to believe we need to join (pay money) to be part of RSN. Remy is running for president of RSN. They've ruined the whole thing.

That's why I said people should vote me for president of RSN. As Teddy KGB says, "It's all a big FAC-KING joke any-WAY."
 
2007-08-31 12:48:03 PM  
robsul82: I'm more pissy about the Yankees Universe T-shirts

Where did those come from all of a sudden? Is that a YES thing?
 
2007-08-31 12:48:19 PM  
Let them call themselves a nation

define: nation A people who share common customs(beer drinking - cursing the Yankees), origins(boston, duh), history(86ys), and frequently language(Paaak da caaa in Haaaavad Yaaaaad)

'nuf said
 
2007-08-31 12:48:25 PM  
I went into my room, closed the door, and fell weeping onto my bed during Game 7 that year. (Mind you, I was 24 at the time and I was crying while there still were two innings left to play.)

Man up Nancy.
 
2007-08-31 12:48:43 PM  
Some Red Sox fans are good people. Some aren't. I've seen Sox fans (on the internet mind) say that they hoped Giambi's tumor scare a couple years back would be fatal and how the Yankees have been cursed since 9/11. That's why I will never be a Red Sox fans, no matter how much I can hate the Yankees. (and I don't)

And I can sympathize with those who hate Iggles fans. It's especially bad here near Syracuse where all these people are wearing #5 jerseys and bragging about the Eagles every day just because Donovan McNabb went to SU. HE'S NOT EVEN FROM AROUND HERE PEOPLE!!! GET OVER IT!!!!

Can't wait until he retires so these pathetic bandwagon fans can go back to their lives.
 
2007-08-31 12:49:30 PM  
Piper, I can agree with that. The second it was sold to us with a trademark it became lame. But, that doesn't change the fact that there really isn't a bug problem with using a term to describe Sox fans filling road stadiums.
 
2007-08-31 12:51:37 PM  
GimpyNip: But, that doesn't change the fact that there really isn't a bug problem with using a term to describe Sox fans filling road stadiums.

There's already a term for it ---bandwagon fans.
 
2007-08-31 12:54:51 PM  
Wise_Guy: robsul82: I'm more pissy about the Yankees Universe T-shirts

Where did those come from all of a sudden? Is that a YES thing?


I guess, YES is that craptacular.

Wise_Guy: GimpyNip: But, that doesn't change the fact that there really isn't a bug problem with using a term to describe Sox fans filling road stadiums.

There's already a term for it ---bandwagon fans.


We decided the new term for "bandwagon fan" is a "Wally." Like their stupid mascot.
 
2007-08-31 12:55:50 PM  
Red Sox fans are so loyal, because they all have such fond childhood memories of being molested before Sunday doubleheaders at Fenway.
 
2007-08-31 12:55:57 PM  
Sorry to break it to you farkers, but the Dallas Cowboys are America's team.
 
2007-08-31 12:56:32 PM  
Red Sox fans are indeed the worst fans in any major american sports.

Tat'dGreaser [TotalFark] Quote 2007-08-31 07:04:21 AM
What a farking tool. Everyone knows Yankee fans are the worst fans in the history of organized sports. Ok, Raiders fans are a very close second.


Impossible.

Why? Because the Red Sox have every single flaw that the Yankees do plus several others due to their giant chip on the shoulder and constant failure.

The Red Sox are as arrogant as the yanks, they look down on other fans as much, they consider their rivlarly more important than anything else, they try to buy championships, etc.

But in addition to all the above, which apply to the Yanks, the RS are also complete hypocrites (whining about the Yanks buying championships or spending too much while doing the exact same thing), and they have this huge annoying chip on their shoulder due to their choking and failure that leads them to do idiotic things like chant "Yankees suck!" everywhere from Pats pre-season games against the Dolphins to local spelling bees. They are also the most in your face whining ranting fan base I've ever seen in my life. Yanks fans will just be snobs, but leave you alone. Red Sox fans will start foaming at the mouth and telling you how horrible your team is the second they see a cap that doesn't have a red B on it.


Worst fanbase in history. I'm not even sure what compares. Maybe british soccer fans (specifically Chelsea fans?)
 
2007-08-31 12:57:20 PM  
Tat'dGreaser: What a farking tool. Everyone knows Yankee fans are the worst fans in the history of organized sports. Ok, Raiders fans are a very close second.

I know only it will only matter to the two people who like hockey, but I'd throw out the Buffalo Sabres fans as second worst. I'd say they were the worst, but nobody in that town ever wins anything.
 
2007-08-31 12:58:09 PM  
Bill Frist: Red Sox fans are indeed the worst fans in any major american sports.

Tat'dGreaser [TotalFark] Quote 2007-08-31 07:04:21 AM
What a farking tool. Everyone knows Yankee fans are the worst fans in the history of organized sports. Ok, Raiders fans are a very close second.

Impossible.

Why? Because the Red Sox have every single flaw that the Yankees do plus several others due to their giant chip on the shoulder and constant failure.

The Red Sox are as arrogant as the yanks, they look down on other fans as much, they consider their rivlarly more important than anything else, they try to buy championships, etc.

But in addition to all the above, which apply to the Yanks, the RS are also complete hypocrites (whining about the Yanks buying championships or spending too much while doing the exact same thing), and they have this huge annoying chip on their shoulder due to their choking and failure that leads them to do idiotic things like chant "Yankees suck!" everywhere from Pats pre-season games against the Dolphins to local spelling bees. They are also the most in your face whining ranting fan base I've ever seen in my life. Yanks fans will just be snobs, but leave you alone. Red Sox fans will start foaming at the mouth and telling you how horrible your team is the second they see a cap that doesn't have a red B on it.


Worst fanbase in history. I'm not even sure what compares. Maybe british soccer fans (specifically Chelsea fans?)



Your team sucks.
 
2007-08-31 12:58:51 PM  
What a farking tool. Everyone knows Yankee fans are the worst fans in the history of organized sports. Ok, Raiders fans are a very close second.

You ever been to a NASCAR event..
 
2007-08-31 1:00:10 PM  
how is calling your fan base 'red sox nation' arrogent?

move along folks, this guys a toolbag, nothin to see here.
 
2007-08-31 1:00:43 PM  
I have to agree with the writer on this. Red Sox fans are getting way too ridiculous.

/Dodger fan
 
2007-08-31 1:02:30 PM  
I'm a Cowboys and a Red Sox fan, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

Really.
 
2007-08-31 1:02:39 PM  
Packer fans are the worst when it comes to sportsmanship.

/Go bears
 
2007-08-31 1:04:46 PM  
I hate the Cowboys, but boy do I ever hate "Red Sox Nation". I'm not a Yankees fan. In fact, I don't much like the Yankees...but I'm a sports fan and boston fans are THE WORST. It's not even so much arrogance, but just blind ignorance. Every guy on their team is the absolute best ever, until he's not on the team anymore, then he's always sucked and we're better off without him. But of course, despite having the best player at every position (Trot Nixon should be an all-star!!) it's never about the players, we play as a "team". Oh, and everyone is out to get us. And the Yankees buy championships.
Real comments made to me by a Red Sox fan this season...
"Mike Lowell is by far the best 3rd baseman in the league this year, why isn't he starting the all-star game?"
"Oh yeah, when's the last time your team won a championship?"

As to the Weeners...I responded with A-Rod. I was told that "he's gay".
To the second comment, I reminded the Red Sox fan that it was 86 years between championships for the Sox and that it's my team had come into existance and won 2 championships during that time. Didn't seem to make a dent.
WORST FANS EVER!
 
2007-08-31 1:04:53 PM  

The Red Sox have a history going back a long time with or without the Yankees. That the two teams' histories dovetail together does not mean that the only reason people like the Sox is because of the Yanks. That's just self-centered and silly. I know people in England and New Zealand who are Sox fans and they couldn't care less about "the division" or the Yanks. They like the character of the team


I think you missed his point. I believe what he was saying is that if the Red Sox were not in the AL East and did not have the rivarly with the Yanks AND had the same history (ie, decades and decades without championships, often failing to make the playoffs despite being the secord or third highest payroll, etc.) they would not have the same place in baseball that they do. They would be a fairly forgettable team outside of Boston.

I think this is a fair point. I mean, teams that constantly fail are almost always forgettable outside of their area. However, since the Sox are in the AL East and are chief rivals of basbealls best team (not this year, but over the history of MLB) they get cast into a David role that makes them the second most famous team.

Again, this is a very fair point. Of course, if they wenren't in the AL east perhaps they would have gotten into the playoffs way more times and thus won more WS. Very possible. Then again, maybe without the rivarly with the Yanks they wouldn't have gotten teh support and fandom and thus money and hunger to make teams as good as they have. Who knows.
 
2007-08-31 1:05:01 PM  
Holophrastic: Don't like it? Well then maybe you should get a fanbase as loyal and dedicated as either of those two teams have got. biatching about it just reminds the Sox and Yanks fans that they have more in common with each other than the rest of you sad sacks, and that's an awkward moment to say the least.

That's a surprise to you? The Boston Red Sox have turned into the second coming of the Yankees. You spend more money than the payrolls of the lowest four to five teams combined, you have bandwagon fans across the country who fill other peoples stadiums yet don't know the starting rotation, and you talk and act as if your team and your rivalries are the only ones in baseball.

Understand, I'm not biatching about these things. I'm actually glad the Yankees and Red Sox have such large road followings, because the attendance helps revenues for small market teams. For that matter, as ridiculous as payroll gaps are, at least revenue sharing puts some more cash in small market pockets as well.

Nonetheless, there really isn't much difference between the Red Sox and Yankees anymore. The local culture may still be different, but the national presence of the teams is growing remarkably the same.
 
2007-08-31 1:05:20 PM  
Wise Guy: Maybe we think we belong at the big table because the Sox are tied for fourth for wins (3rd in AL). Or sixth for appearances (3rd in AL). Or that they STILL have last over the Yankees. Or that at least 90% the assholes walking around New England with Yankees hats wouldn't have been caught dead with one before Jeter. Or that said Yankees fans are smug pricks that spent eighty-six years rubbing it in our face.

Maybe that's it.

\oh, and the America's Team shiat, filth? Ya. There's a reason they annually rank first in "most hated team." And BOTH my favorite NFL teams have last on yours, too, and one has head-to-head on you. By the way, how'd that game up in Seattle go last year?
 
2007-08-31 1:08:38 PM  
If I read the whole thread before posting this I'd probably be late for class, so here goes:

Red Sox Nation does not translate to "the entire United States are Red Sox fans."

It just refers to a group of people who are all Red Sox fans. Just like the "Cherokee nation" means Cherokee Indians and their descendants. A nation is simply just a group of people with a common heritage.

America's Team is an entirely different animal.
 
2007-08-31 1:11:09 PM  
Tat'dGreaser: What a farking tool. Everyone knows Yankee fans are the worst fans in the history of organized sports. Ok, Raiders fans are a very close second.

None of you has ever encountered a Manchester-United fan I see....
 
2007-08-31 1:11:30 PM  
tdpatriots12: If I read the whole thread before posting this I'd probably be late for class, so here goes:

Red Sox Nation does not translate to "the entire United States are Red Sox fans."

It just refers to a group of people who are all Red Sox fans. Just like the "Cherokee nation" means Cherokee Indians and their descendants. A nation is simply just a group of people with a common heritage.

America's Team is an entirely different animal.


That's what it was supposed to be. I'll tell you, though, the newer bandwagon pink hat style fans around the country? They don't always realize this, and act like it is your first definition.

National bandwagons have a price.
 
2007-08-31 1:12:57 PM  
you have bandwagon fans across the country who fill other peoples stadiums yet don't know the starting rotation, and you talk and act as if your team and your rivalries are the only ones in baseball.

Yep, this is another reason the Sox are far worse than the Yankees. As has been said by many people, there are millions of Nyers who don't care at all about the Yankees. Tons of NYers don't follow sports at all, of those that do plenty don't follow baseball, and even of NYC baseball fans obviously a lot are Mets.

Boston is different. Everyone in Boston has to be a Sox fan. Even people who don't care about sports or baseball and have never watched a full Red Sox game in their entire life will talk about how the Yankees suck if the name is brought up. I know lots of people like this and I've never even lived in Boston. Boston kids will travel to DC or Philly or NYC and still rant about how great the Sox are, despite not being able to name more than 2 or 3 current players.
 
2007-08-31 1:16:26 PM  
Just because some marketing company tool called the Cowboys "America's Team" doesn't make it true. Just like Budweiser isn't the "King of Beers" just because their ad people say they are.

Don't worry Cowboy fans, you'll get over it.


/Fly Eagles Fly
 
2007-08-31 1:17:12 PM  
Bill Frist

Yanks fans will just be snobs, but leave you alone

ORLY (new window)
 
2007-08-31 1:18:42 PM  
I don't see a problem with the term "Red Sox Nation" as long as it's actually true.

/Please secede now
//Take the Yankees fans with you
 
2007-08-31 1:19:15 PM  
four95: Tat'dGreaser: What a farking tool. Everyone knows Yankee fans are the worst fans in the history of organized sports. Ok, Raiders fans are a very close second.

None of you has ever encountered a Manchester-United fan I see....


You know, I hate the Raiders as much as any red and gold blooded Chiefs fan, but I'm not sure the Raiders fans deserve the bum rap. The halloween costumes on TV and the ridiculous "Raider Nation" stuff are irritating, but the time I was at an Oakland game (and the testimony of other people I know who've been to games) was totally different. They had a pretty laid back and polite crowd, for the most part. More so than my fellow Chiefs fans, who are pretty rabid at the tailgating, and prone to cuss out opposing fans who show up at the stadium.

Thing is, TV cameras love the black hole, and commentators focus on the halloween stuff, and that influences Raiders ROAD fans, the "Raider Nation" (which is pretty small now, of course) to try to live up to it. So I guess, again, national bandwagons have a price.

/well, bandwagon might be an exaggeration anymore.
//national Radio Flyer wagon?
 
2007-08-31 1:19:30 PM  
SupplySideJesus:

I was talking about people on the streets in normal situations. Deliberately trying to provoke rival teams' fans during a sports game is a different beast.

Not defending anything in that video, but you'd have gotten a lot worse from Red Sox fans (or Philly fans or Chelsea fans or any of the other horrible fan bases).

What I'm saying is that if you go to a bar in a neutral city like DC with a Red Sox hat no yankee fan is gonna bug you. Wear a Yanks hat and you will get "Yankees suck!" chants all night from a bunch of annoying kids who think they are from Ireland because their second cousin studied abroad in Dublin.
 
2007-08-31 1:19:31 PM  
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/single handedly destroyed national appeal of the red sox. however, did manage to win award for biggest douchebag pansy evar
 
2007-08-31 1:20:36 PM  
SupplySideJesus: Bill Frist

Yanks fans will just be snobs, but leave you alone

ORLY (new window)


We can't see what the Red Sox fan is doing in that video.
 
2007-08-31 1:22:18 PM  
FriarReb98: Maybe we think we belong at the big table because the Sox are tied for fourth for wins (3rd in AL). Or sixth for appearances (3rd in AL).

You forgot to mention they are a perennial top 20 team.

Or that they STILL have last over the Yankees.

?

Or that at least 90% the assholes walking around outside New England with Yankees Sox hats wouldn't have been caught dead with one before Jeter 2004.

Same thing...

Or that said Yankees fans are smug pricks that spent eighty-six years rubbing it in our face.

Well if you've been taking shiat for 86 years you have a right to be bitter and I'll stay off your lawn. Also, I'll cancel this year's trip to Boston where I just walk around talking shiat to Sox fans as has been the custom in my family for generations.

Seriously, Sox fans have always had an inferiority complex. Then they won one recently and turned those years of frustration into such douchebaggery the world has not seen since Mussolini gave a speech on a veranda in 1939.
 
2007-08-31 1:22:49 PM  
steveurkel: /single handedly destroyed national appeal of the red sox.

No, there is another:
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2007-08-31 1:22:56 PM  
I have a friend whose boyfriend got beat up at an LA Dodgers game for wearing a Mets hat. Got sent to the hospital (several other mets fans got beaten up too)

All I'm saying here is that provoking rival fans in their own stadium is always a risky move.

Getting shouted at during a Yankees game at Yankees stadium might be kind of annoying, but getting yelled at the corner coffee shop or during a concert by idiot Red Sox fans when there isn't a game going on in sight is much more annoying.
 
2007-08-31 1:23:21 PM  
SupplySideJesus: Yanks fans will just be snobs, but leave you alone

ORLY (new window)


In fairness, I should point out that ANYONE with a video camera gets those kinds of reaction at a ballgame.

Drunken idiots + camera = WHOOO! MY TEAM ROCKS MOTHERfarkER! IN YO FACE1111111!"
 
2007-08-31 1:25:22 PM  
tdpatriots12: steveurkel: /single handedly destroyed national appeal of the red sox.

No, there is another:


you are correct sir. he took home the 1st runner up in the biggest douchebag evar contest but swept all categories at the worst actor evar awards
 
2007-08-31 1:26:08 PM  
SupplySideJesus

Get real, the Bleacher Creatures are harmless. All they are doing is pointing out the obvious, there's no physical danger out there.
 
2007-08-31 1:28:09 PM  
When it comes to Red Sox/Yankees fans, I think I'm a bit more annoyed by the former. Probably just the whole 2004 and bandwagon thing. It was pitiful to suddenly see people wearing Boston hats here in the Midwest. Hell, I could understand seeing Cubbies hats in St. Louis & Springfield, MO, but Red Sox?

The term "Cardinal Nation" is quite frequently used here in St. Louis, as well. I'm guessing it has something to do with the loyalty of Redbirds fans, and that we're often recognized as the best (most knowledgeable? most loyal? i dunno...) fans in baseball. It also stems from the fact that, years ago, pre-expansion, KMOX and its massive signal generated many loyal fans to the south and west of St. Louis. On clear evenings, you can pick up ol' AM 1120 in Denver, and sometimes beyond. And most of our fans aren't tools who suddenly started cheering for El Birdos last October.

Oh, and for all you pro-Sox douches out there: I saw your damn team end its farking curse live and in person at Old Busch. The movie Fever Pitch? Totally teh ghey. Oh, and how you like J.D. Drew now?


Tastes Like Chicken: FTFY

I haven't laughed that hard since someone at work did an impression of a fellow co-worker concerning yeast infections and extreme discomfort.
 
2007-08-31 1:29:53 PM  
If either a Yanks or Red Sox fan's response to this is anything but "there are douchbags and pricks in both fanbases, get over it", then you are dealing with a Grade A Moran.

/But as for Jets fans, well, I dont want to spread rumors, but I hear they all have cooties
//And doody on their heads
 
2007-08-31 1:32:53 PM  
E5K1M0:

Get real, the Bleacher Creatures are harmless. All they are doing is pointing out the obvious, there's no physical danger out there.


Hardly snobs leaving a guy alone, wouldn't you say?
 
2007-08-31 1:36:02 PM  
SupplySideJesus [TotalFark] Quote 2007-08-31 01:32:53 PM
E5K1M0:

Get real, the Bleacher Creatures are harmless. All they are doing is pointing out the obvious, there's no physical danger out there.

Hardly snobs leaving a guy alone, wouldn't you say?


Uh,

a) It is quite clear that the dude was deliberately trying to provoke them and indeed wanted a reaction. I'm sure he was carrying a sign with some famous red sox wit on it like "A-Rod and Jeter are homos" while carrying his camera and descending into the most famously rapid-yankees fan part of the stadium.

color me unimpressed with all involved

b) again, as I made quite clear, I was talking about in neutral situations unrelated to baseball. How fans react during a game at a stadium is one thing. As long as their is no violence, I don't really care. But fans bugging you on the streets with no baseball game in sight is another thing.
 
2007-08-31 1:38:52 PM  
I understand that in the NFL, Philly is a brutal place--if not *the worst* place--to be if you aren't there as an Eagles fan. Anyone care to corroborate that?

Tat'dGreaser:
That's a trick question, Ditka is God.


*bows, chanting* Diiiiiitkaaaa, Diiiiiiiitkaaaa...

And real Cowboys fans are absolutely ashamed that Owens is on their team. The worst day's work for Jerry Jones was when he hired that waste of time and money.

//lifelong 'Boys fan
///likes Steelers, Bears too
//despises LA teams, Broncos
///and the best day in baseball is when the D-backs stunned the Yankees
 
2007-08-31 1:39:04 PM  
I'm a Red Sox fan and even I get sick of Red Sox fans.

Seriously. Someone telling me I'm not a fan unless I pay to sign up for some stupid Red Sox Nation membership card?! Red Sox Nation voting for a President? WTF???

I enjoy baseball and I live in Boston, hence being a Red Sox fan. I'm also a Bruins fan (yes, I usually try not to admit to it and I'll need to see a therapist about it soon).

Back to the Sox though. I understand the passion and I understand the media driving the Red Sox in this town. Only in Boston could you have the local Football team in the Superbowl, yet in January the baseball team are still getting the sports headlines. I think there are your typical fair weather fans here in Boston, and the yuppie bastards who make it impossible for me to even get to a real game anymore, but it is the fans on the road that are the real problem. Half of them couldn't name the starting line up, have probably never been to Fenway and probably don't know who Johnny Pesky is or that Joe Dimaggio had a brother. Fark me.
 
2007-08-31 1:39:56 PM  
Kygz:

The Bengal Nation rejoices.

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2007-08-31 1:41:49 PM  
HZS9PK: the Dallas Cowboys are America's team.

Why do you hate America?
 
2007-08-31 1:42:24 PM  
BunkoSquad:

Ah yes, the old "Jeter is out playing golf today, this is better" sign that Pedro is waving at the '04 WS Victory Parade.

Proof that the Red Sox as a team have just as little class as their fanbase.
 
2007-08-31 1:43:28 PM  
Kinda of funny that ESPN is trying to call out the very thing they created. There are just as many educated, passionate baseball fans on the west coast but alas we do not get the national coverage because old blowhards like Gammons, and the rest of ESPN's bristol staff is asleep by the time our games start. Someone mentioned that the reason the Red Sox get so much attention is because they are in the same league as the Yankees. I agree one hundred and ten percent. The Yankees do deserve the attention they get because of their many championships and this is coming from a Dodgers fan, but the one thing I do not understand is how a team like the Dodgers, who has one of the top attendances year after year more world series than the Red Sox, and more seats than Fenway Park can't compete for the same players the Red Sox get, or spend like the Red Sox. I am sick and tired of the Red Sox Nation false sense of entitlement, it is one of the biggest travesties of modern day spectator sports.
 
2007-08-31 1:44:28 PM  


raptusregaliter Quote 2007-08-31 01:38:52 PM
I understand that in the NFL, Philly is a brutal place--if not *the worst* place--to be if you aren't there as an Eagles fan. Anyone care to corroborate that?


Phillies fans are the Red Sox Nation of the NFL.

I'd rank them as the second worst sports fan base in the country.
 
2007-08-31 1:45:28 PM  
ctobio: Ah yes, the old "Jeter is out playing golf today, this is better" sign that Pedro is waving at the '04 WS Victory Parade.

Proof that the Red Sox as a team have just as little class as their fanbase.


So is that iron rod up your ass there for structural support or just for pleasure?

/It was a funny sign handed to Manny by a fan
//Lighten up, Francis
///Jeter would agree with me
 
2007-08-31 1:45:46 PM  
img174.imageshack.us

When a team wins, after years of losing, it tends to attract many new fans.
 
2007-08-31 1:47:45 PM  
PeeWeePangolin: ...but the one thing I do not understand is how a team like the Dodgers, who has one of the top attendances year after year more world series than the Red Sox, and more seats than Fenway Park can't compete for the same players the Red Sox get, or spend like the Red Sox. I am sick and tired of the Red Sox Nation false sense of entitlement, it is one of the biggest travesties of modern day spectator sports.

How is it the Red Sox fans' fault that the Dodgers' owners cannot/have not spent money on players?
 
2007-08-31 1:47:54 PM  
PeeWeePangolin: Kinda of funny that ESPN is trying to call out the very thing they created. There are just as many educated, passionate baseball fans on the west coast but alas we do not get the national coverage because old blowhards like Gammons, and the rest of ESPN's bristol staff is asleep by the time our games start. Someone mentioned that the reason the Red Sox get so much attention is because they are in the same league as the Yankees. I agree one hundred and ten percent. The Yankees do deserve the attention they get because of their many championships and this is coming from a Dodgers fan, but the one thing I do not understand is how a team like the Dodgers, who has one of the top attendances year after year more world series than the Red Sox, and more seats than Fenway Park can't compete for the same players the Red Sox get, or spend like the Red Sox.

They get away with it because the fanbase doesn't DEMAND success. Red Sox ownership, much like the Yankees, knows that anything less than doing everything possible to win games is unacceptable to the fans.

In LA, where half the crowd is on the freeway for the first inning and back out there by the 8th, there isn't that same demand.
 
2007-08-31 1:48:22 PM  
SupplySideJesus:Hardly snobs leaving a guy alone, wouldn't you say?

I've been out in the bleachers for playoff games, all that happens is during a break in the game someone points out a fan wearing the other teams gear...the crowd starts chanting "A**HOLE, A**HOLE" while pointing him out. It is childish, but it's also funny. If you laugh it off, that's all that happens.
 
2007-08-31 1:49:20 PM  
E5K1M0: I've been out in the bleachers for playoff games, all that happens is during a break in the game someone points out a fan wearing the other teams gear...the crowd starts chanting "A**HOLE, A**HOLE" while pointing him out. It is childish, but it's also funny. If you laugh it off, that's all that happens.

This happens at the Boston Symphony all the time
 
2007-08-31 1:49:47 PM  
PeeWeePangolin: the one thing I do not understand is how a team like the Dodgers, who has one of the top attendances year after year more world series than the Red Sox, and more seats than Fenway Park can't compete for the same players the Red Sox get, or spend like the Red Sox.

The Dodgers are 6th in payroll this season, and only about $35mil behind the Red Sox. The Dodgers, however, have to compete with the Angels, and to a lesser extent, the A's and Giants. The Red Sox have the good fortune of being the only team in New England, and therefore represent a larger market than it would seem at first glance.
 
2007-08-31 1:51:19 PM  
Bill Frist: a) It is quite clear that the dude was deliberately trying to provoke them and indeed wanted a reaction. I'm sure he was carrying a sign with some famous red sox wit on it like "A-Rod and Jeter are homos" while carrying his camera and descending into the most famously rapid-yankees fan part of the stadium.

I've actually sat in the bleachers at Yankee Stadium during Yankees-Red Sox games, and watched idiot Red Sox fans go out of their way to be confrontational, and then have to have the NYPD have to escort them out of the area for their own protection.

Of course, I once had a set of these asshats right behind me, and some of those pennies and batteries were hitting me. I wasn't pleased. I even got up and yelled "hey guys, you're overshooting and hitting me. Aim better, ok!"
 
2007-08-31 1:51:25 PM  
priestrape: This happens at the Boston Symphony all the time

I bet it would if you showed up with a Yankees hat ;)
 
2007-08-31 1:54:32 PM  
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When large groups of people come together they tend to behave like idiots.
 
2007-08-31 1:56:01 PM  
ctobio: I've actually sat in the bleachers at Yankee Stadium during Yankees-Red Sox games, and watched idiot Red Sox fans go out of their way to be confrontational, and then have to have the NYPD have to escort them out of the area for their own protection.

Actually, the NYPD escorts anyone out who flips the bird. Many times visiting Sox fans do not know this rule, and the Yankees fans will do the "asshole" thing to try and get them to flip them off. As soon as this happens, the Yankees fans cheer as the cops come to get the now confused visitor.

Of course, I once had a set of these asshats right behind me, and some of those pennies and batteries were hitting me. I wasn't pleased. I even got up and yelled "hey guys, you're overshooting and hitting me. Aim better, ok!"

That's bullshiat. I've never seen anyone throw anything at a fan of another team, even a Sox fan, in all the time I've sat in the bleachers. And where would all the batteries come from? Was it Duracell battery day or something when you supposedly went?
 
2007-08-31 1:56:23 PM  
tommyl66: ctobio:
Proof that the Red Sox as a team have just as little class as their fanbase.

So is that iron rod up your ass there for structural support or just for pleasure?


Pleasure, mostly. Slow day at the office.

/It was a funny sign handed to Manny by a fan

And if he had a lick of class, he'd at best toss it in the car and not show it off.

//Lighten up, Francis
///Jeter would agree with me


Actually, probably not. I mean, this is the same organization that caught shiat because A-Rod said "hah." You wouldn't see that from a player. A fan, surely. I mean, I tormented many a Red Sox fan here at work over the years.
 
2007-08-31 1:56:57 PM  
Wise_Guy

I can see your point, but I remember through the 1960's and up the mid 90's the Dodgers were the Yankees West when it came to organizational structure, free agent spending, and marquee player acquisitions ever since onwership changed there has been a half ass approach to winning. It's frustrating and sad, now for some reason after ESPN had their mainstream explosion the Red Sox have received round the clock coverage, every other Sunday game seems like a Yankees Red Sox game, and I remember growing up the Red Sox were just another team like Orioles or the Tigers that really didn't make the headlines unless they made it to the World Series like in 86'.
 
2007-08-31 1:57:07 PM  
priestrape:
This "Yankees Suck!" chants happens at the Boston Symphony all the time

Now THAT, I would believe.
 
2007-08-31 1:58:14 PM  
Bill Frist

Just pointing out that obnoxious isn't a geographically-exclusive trait. I've seen my share of socially retarded Yankee fans, and not necessarily at the ballpark.

I've also seen Yanks fans take their share at Fenway, and to their credit, brush it off with a smile. 26 rings will do that for a guy's confidence.

Sports rivalries are great and all, but ours is a bit much.
 
2007-08-31 1:58:19 PM  

That's bullshiat. I've never seen anyone throw anything at a fan of another team, even a Sox fan, in all the time I've sat in the bleachers. And where would all the batteries come from? Was it Duracell battery day or something when you supposedly went?


?

The way I read his post it sounded like he meant idiot red sox fans were sitting behind him and hitting him with pennies...
 
2007-08-31 1:58:45 PM  
Wise_Guy: This happens at the Boston Symphony all the time

I bet it would if you showed up with a Yankees hat ;)


Dude, they dont mess around down there. They'll bust yer head open with a bassoon if you show up in a Yankees hat. I once saw Seji Ozawa rip a guys lungs out through his kneecap just because he said Kevin Romine wasnt that good.
 
2007-08-31 1:59:10 PM  
E5K1M0: priestrape:
This "Yankees Suck!" chants happens at the Boston Symphony all the time

Now THAT, I would believe.


Actually, I think I'd believe that, too.

Let me amend my previous Romero:

When large groups of people come together they tend to behave like idiots. If you brought together the 10,000 greatest pacifists and put them in a stadium, one of them would throw a battery at you for wearing the wrong shirt.
 
2007-08-31 2:01:41 PM  
Wise_Guy:
Actually, the NYPD escorts anyone out who flips the bird. Many times visiting Sox fans do not know this rule, and the Yankees fans will do the "asshole" thing to try and get them to flip them off. As soon as this happens, the Yankees fans cheer as the cops come to get the now confused visitor.


I might have missed the bird flip. It was behind me, I was trying to stay out of it.

That's bullshiat. I've never seen anyone throw anything at a fan of another team, even a Sox fan, in all the time I've sat in the bleachers. And where would all the batteries come from? Was it Duracell battery day or something when you supposedly went?

I guarantee you that I got hit with pennies, and I did see an empty plastic soda bottle fly at them, and a AA battery. But it was mostly pennies.

Mind you this was years ago. Last time I sat in the bleachers was last year, and it was considerably tamer then. It wasn't nearly as entertaining as it was even 5 years ago, and without beer it sucked. I'd rather pay more to have beer and be able to see the game.
 
2007-08-31 2:03:19 PM  
Wise_Guy: That's bullshiat. I've never seen anyone throw anything at a fan of another team, even a Sox fan, in all the time I've sat in the bleachers. And where would all the batteries come from? Was it Duracell battery day or something when you supposedly went?

Gotta second the bullshiat call. I know for a fact that fans in the bleachers at Fenway wouldnt stand for people throwing stuff that could hurt somebody (peanuts are a different story, those are fair game), even if they were thrown at an obnoxious Yankee fan. And I know Yankees fans are the same way. The people who claim to have thrown batteries at games are the same people who said they drank 25 beers before going in knocked out a guys teeth for pronouncing "chowder" wrong.
 
2007-08-31 2:03:48 PM  
SupplySideJesus: I've also seen Yanks fans take their share at Fenway, and to their credit, brush it off with a smile.

I've seen the same in the reverse in the bleachers at Yankee stadium. You wear the hat or jersey of the opposing team and it's a given you're going to catch some shiat from the home fans no matter what stadium you're at. If you're an idiot on top of that, you're going to catch more than your fair share.

I've seen Sox fans get abused for an inning or two, then later seen the same guy getting handshakes and pats on the back once the game was over. It's all how you handle it. And if you can't handle it, don't come to the stadium dressed like a target.
 
2007-08-31 2:04:05 PM  
SupplySideJesus

I don't think it has anything to do with geographic location. My guess is that it is a resault of the Sox constant failures. Like the Yanks, they make the most money, have the most famous players and the most passionate big fan bases.... however, they have a history of choking and losing.

So, while a Yanks fan will be snobby he won't feel like he has to bother with some fan ofa shiatty team. He knows he is better, he has 26 rings to prove it. A Sox fan, OTOH, has a big chip on his shoulder so while he also thinks he is way better, he feels the need to constantly make everyone else know this by berating other fans and so on.
 
2007-08-31 2:04:30 PM  
raptusregaliter: I understand that in the NFL, Philly is a brutal place--if not *the worst* place--to be if you aren't there as an Eagles fan. Anyone care to corroborate that?

Tat'dGreaser:
That's a trick question, Ditka is God.

*bows, chanting* Diiiiiitkaaaa, Diiiiiiiitkaaaa...

And real Cowboys fans are absolutely ashamed that Owens is on their team. The worst day's work for Jerry Jones was when he hired that waste of time and money.

//lifelong 'Boys fan
///likes Steelers, Bears too
//despises LA teams, Broncos
///and the best day in baseball is when the D-backs stunned the Yankees


I disagree with your assertion about Owens. I strongly believe, and I've said this before on Fark, that his issues have stemmed from worthless, over the hill and/or douchebaggy coaches (Reid, Mooch, Tuna) and QBs (McInjured, Garcia, Bledsoe). He has a chance to prove my point this year, and we'll see, but I think you'll be surprised.

\Cowboys fan since I found out what football was
\\More worried about Romo than TO
\\\Can we has John David Booty next year just in case?
 
2007-08-31 2:05:32 PM  
ctobio: Mind you this was years ago. Last time I sat in the bleachers was last year, and it was considerably tamer then. It wasn't nearly as entertaining as it was even 5 years ago, and without beer it sucked. I'd rather pay more to have beer and be able to see the game.

The amount of thugery is inversely proportional to the price of the ticket. Notice you don't hear about hooliganism much anymore in English soccer stadiums? They can't afford to get in.

The bleachers in Fenway today are about as intimidating as a PTA meeting.
 
2007-08-31 2:07:06 PM  
tommyl66: They'll bust yer head open with a bassoon if you show up in a Yankees hat.

They'll bust a reed in yo' ass.
 
2007-08-31 2:08:00 PM  
Wise_Guy: I've seen the same in the reverse in the bleachers at Yankee stadium. You wear the hat or jersey of the opposing team and it's a given you're going to catch some shiat from the home fans no matter what stadium you're at. If you're an idiot on top of that, you're going to catch more than your fair share.

I've seen Sox fans get abused for an inning or two, then later seen the same guy getting handshakes and pats on the back once the game was over. It's all how you handle it. And if you can't handle it, don't come to the stadium dressed like a target.


I've been to quite a few Sox-Yanks games at Yankee Stadium, and I've never had a problem. Sure, I'll talk some trash to people, but thats all it is and its all in good fun. If you say something to somebody and they come back with "Fark you, you farking fark", well, you move on.

We were at Opening Night in the Bronx in 2005 dressed in our finest "2004 AL Champions" shirts. Sure, we took quite a lot of crap, and we gave it right back. Security saw us before the game even started and warned us that any swearing would get us a trip out of the stadium, so we kept it clean. It was funny seeing how many Yankees fans got tossed for dropping some choice words, too, but the majority of the fans had fun with us.
 
2007-08-31 2:08:37 PM  
I know one thing about Red Sox fans. They know more about whining than any other sports fan outside perhaps Cub fans.
 
2007-08-31 2:08:41 PM  
Red Sox fan here and I am insulted by some of the comments here.

/hates 80 percent of Red Sox fans
//hates 95 percent of Yankee fans
///hates 99 percent of Farker sports thread commenters.
 
2007-08-31 2:11:05 PM  
tommyl66: Gotta second the bullshiat call. I know for a fact that fans in the bleachers at Fenway wouldnt stand for people throwing stuff that could hurt somebody (peanuts are a different story, those are fair game), even if they were thrown at an obnoxious Yankee fan.

Hey, I said they were AAs. Maybe AAAs, from 15 feet, and it was maybe a couple. It's not like they were getting D-cells lobbed at them like hand grenades. You save those for John Rocker. :)

And, this was 7 or 8 years ago. It was a different, more brutal time. Life was cheaper then.
 
2007-08-31 2:12:05 PM  
TheSup3rN0va: I disagree with your assertion about Owens. I strongly believe, and I've said this before on Fark, that his issues have stemmed from worthless, over the hill and/or douchebaggy coaches (Reid, Mooch, Tuna) and QBs (McInjured, Garcia, Bledsoe). He has a chance to prove my point this year, and we'll see, but I think you'll be surprised.

Good thing the Boys have the spring chicken that is Wade Phillips coaching now. Um, wait a sec...

I do agree about Owens, though, to an extent. I think a lot of his problems come from wanting to win so much, but at the same time he needs somebody there to tell him to shut the fark up once in a while, too.
 
2007-08-31 2:17:06 PM  
Red Sox nation or not I don't think I am going to even watch tonights game. I am sick and frustrated after the last series against the team that sucks. By 715 on Tuesday I never once had confidence we would win any of those games. I had nightmars last night filled with the stadiums crappy sound FX like the casio clap. (cue wise guy getting defensive about this again)

Yeah, I need a night off. I will be back with renewed vigor September 1st. Sigh. We aren't even on panic alert, we are all just depressed.
 
2007-08-31 2:19:45 PM  
GimpyNip [TotalFark] Quote 2007-08-31 02:17:06 PM
Red Sox nation or not I don't think I am going to even watch tonights game. I am sick and frustrated after the last series against the team that sucks.


Any such declaration by a non-Red Sox fan would get a thousand "BANDWAGON FAN!!!!" replies from the idiotic Red Sox fark contingent, inculding GimpyNip most of all.
 
2007-08-31 2:21:19 PM  
GimpyNip: Red Sox nation or not I don't think I am going to even watch tonights game. I am sick and frustrated after the last series against the team that sucks.

Hmmm. Define 'sucks.'

I had nightmars last night filled with the stadiums crappy sound FX like the casio clap. (cue wise guy getting defensive about this again)

I never commented on that.

Yeah, I need a night off. I will be back with renewed vigor September 1st.

You- maybe, Sox-who knows?
 
2007-08-31 2:22:23 PM  
Bill Frist
Wise_Guy


Obnoxious Sox Fan syndrome is indeed the result of a massive (often beer induced) inferiority complex, no surprises there. This works both ways, however... just replace 'inferiority' with 'superiority' and voila, Obnoxious Yankee Fan syndrome.

Remember... we hope to win, you expect it.
 
2007-08-31 2:23:17 PM  
We have goofy stadium cues, you have a mascot. Thus, you suck more. QED.

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2007-08-31 2:25:15 PM  
GimpyNip: Red Sox nation or not I don't think I am going to even watch tonights game. I am sick and frustrated after the last series against the team that sucks. By 715 on Tuesday I never once had confidence we would win any of those games. I had nightmars last night filled with the stadiums crappy sound FX like the casio clap. (cue wise guy getting defensive about this again)

Yeah, I need a night off. I will be back with renewed vigor September 1st. Sigh. We aren't even on panic alert, we are all just depressed.


Hang in there with the team, man. Even the best team in baseball only wins 60% of the time. (OK, 0.597, buts who's counting.) Getting swept is a setback, but that's all. We're still ahead of where we were a week or so ago. Besides, it's fun to watch Wakefield pitch.
 
2007-08-31 2:26:19 PM  
SupplySideJesus:

Well, I've already said I think Yankees fan base is pretty bad too, but I still maintain the Red Sox is by far the worst. Like I said, they have all the flaws of the Yankees plus a bunch of other flaws.

In this case, I'd say they take the worst parts of a superiority complex (they still view themselves as one of the only important teams, they buy championships, they are arrogant snobs, etc.) and combine them with the worst parts of a sports inferiority complex (they feel the need to make everyone know their team is great, they thing the rest of the nation cares about their biatching and whining every time they choke, etc.)
 
2007-08-31 2:27:43 PM  
Speaking as a long time Red Sox fan (sports fan in general) I'm sure most will agree that the bandwagon fans make the most noise of all. And this holds true for any team.

It's the damn Pink Hats that start the "Yankees Suck" chants. It's the same type of idiots who have no idea what the score is of the Yankee game they're currently at. I've seen plenty of games at both stadiums and it happens equally.

Yankee "fans" throwing batteries at people, Sox "fans" starting chants about the Yankees when they're not even playing them at the time... it's generally the only thing you see because real fans are busy paying attention to the game.

People who post in forums such as these to scream about the other team's "fans" are engaging in the same type of behavior they're decrying.

And as for TFA, yeah-- the whole "Red Sox Nation" thing is dumb. So is every other marketing ploy the new ownership has engaged in (especially that RIDICULOUS show, "Sox Appeal", which ruins the game for the rest of the folks sitting in the same section where they're filming that tripe.) But then again, I don't find all the Yankee hype that great either. Especially those new street gang style hats. Nice work, there.
 
2007-08-31 2:28:19 PM  
Wow. That was a long way around to dissing Yankee fans.
 
2007-08-31 2:28:21 PM  
SupplySideJesus: Remember... we hope to win, you expect it.

Is that what it says to say to all Yankees fans in section 3 of the Official RSN© Handbook ?

I lived through the Yankees of the 80's. Nobody even expected them to catch pop-ups let alone win.
 
2007-08-31 2:29:17 PM  
SupplySideJesus: Bill Frist
Wise_Guy

Obnoxious Sox Fan syndrome is indeed the result of a massive (often beer induced) inferiority complex, no surprises there. This works both ways, however... just replace 'inferiority' with 'superiority' and voila, Obnoxious Yankee Fan syndrome.

Remember... we hope to win, you expect it.


And when you don't win, you make sure to let everyone within a 500-mile radius know of your displeasure.
 
2007-08-31 2:32:54 PM  
Bill, aren't you over your much touted 15 post in 15 day quota you pulled out of your ass in the cubs thread. Piss off, pal. I have yet to read an entertaining or insightful post by you and you have admitted your sole purpose on fark is to antagonize people. For a team you don't care about you certainly waste a lot of time and ink reading and writing about them.

Wise guy, there actually was a fight at the Boston symphony a month ago between two guys over a seat! Don't know what or who they were fans of. Not even sure how you fight over assigned seats anyway but I heard on of the guys struck a chord.
 
2007-08-31 2:33:28 PM  
Remember the whole "Sox fans have no right to complain about the Yankees payroll" argument? I agree with that.

Doesn't the same principle apply here?
 
2007-08-31 2:36:58 PM  
robsul82: We have goofy stadium cues, you have a mascot. Thus, you suck more. QED.

Oh, Yankee fans talking about mascots and class?

The Yankees HAD one named Dandy. (clickity pop)

However, they had to get rid of him after those classy Yankee fans actually beat him up. Beat up. Your own mascot. Seriously. I mean, we all booed Wally to start, but we've gotten used to him.
 
2007-08-31 2:37:31 PM  
tommyl66: TheSup3rN0va: I disagree with your assertion about Owens. I strongly believe, and I've said this before on Fark, that his issues have stemmed from worthless, over the hill and/or douchebaggy coaches (Reid, Mooch, Tuna) and QBs (McInjured, Garcia, Bledsoe). He has a chance to prove my point this year, and we'll see, but I think you'll be surprised.

Good thing the Boys have the spring chicken that is Wade Phillips coaching now. Um, wait a sec...

I do agree about Owens, though, to an extent. I think a lot of his problems come from wanting to win so much, but at the same time he needs somebody there to tell him to shut the fark up once in a while, too.


Hence the and/or. Phillips deserves a lot of the credit for how scary the Chargers' D has been, and he's not a hardass like Parcells was (we see how many playoff victories that turned in to). If it wasn't for Parcells sticking to his "Code," we would also have signed Adam Vinatieri instead of Mike Vanderjagt.

Agree with the win/STFU sentiment. He's just got the mix of not being a real great person AND being uber-competitive
 
2007-08-31 2:37:51 PM  
Tat'dGreaser: What a farking tool. Everyone knows Yankee fans are the worst fans in the history of organized sports. Ok, Raiders fans are a very close second.

My vote goes to LSU fans with UT fans a close second.
 
2007-08-31 2:40:09 PM  
Wise_Guy

Is that what it says to say to all Yankees fans in section 3 of the Official RSN© Handbook?

Actually no, that would be Chapter 1, Section 1 of How To Talk To a Douchebag, Vol. 4.

robsul82

Don't worry, you'll hear all about it. It's a 'Nation' after all.
 
2007-08-31 2:41:03 PM  
All the jackass fans need to stay away from my Tigers.
 
2007-08-31 2:41:28 PM  
Holophrastic: However, they had to get rid of him after those classy Yankee fans actually beat him up. Beat up. Your own mascot. Seriously. I mean, we all booed Wally to start, but we've gotten used to him.

I gotta tell you, after reading that I have more respect for my brethren than I did before.
 
2007-08-31 2:42:12 PM  
dettigersnw22: All the jackass fans need to stay away from my Tigers.

Quota full?

;)
 
2007-08-31 2:42:27 PM  
SupplySideJesus:

Easy there. Wise Guy is one of the good ones. Save your venom for Bill Frist, who is almost as universally reviled as the real Bill Frist was ineffective.
 
2007-08-31 2:43:34 PM  
HZS9PK: Sorry to break it to you farkers, but the Dallas Cowboys are America's team.

You misspelled "Most Wanted."
 
2007-08-31 2:44:18 PM  
SupplySideJesus: Actually no, that would be Chapter 1, Section 1 of How To Talk To a Douchebag, Vol. 4.

Hold on a sec...

Ok, so your post translates to "I got nothing" in my Shiathead to English dictionary.
 
2007-08-31 2:45:39 PM  
Holophrastic: Easy there. Wise Guy is one of the good ones.

Thanks, man, I appreciate it.

I'm ok though.
 
2007-08-31 2:47:11 PM  
Wise_Guy:
I'm all about self-policing of the Nation. Our rep is bad enough (obviously), and it's not _all_ earned.
 
2007-08-31 2:48:49 PM  
Wise_Guy:

Ok, so your post translates to "I got nothing" in my Shiathead to English dictionary

Damn right it does... I saw the last 3 games. ;)
 
2007-08-31 2:50:18 PM  
Holophrastic: I'm all about self-policing of the Nation. Our rep is bad enough (obviously), and it's not _all_ earned.

I hear you.

If you noticed, I got all over the Yankees fan who made the derogatory Youkilis comment in the game thread a day or two ago.
 
2007-08-31 2:50:54 PM  
SupplySideJesus: Damn right it does... I saw the last 3 games. ;)

heh.

Well done, sir...
 
2007-08-31 2:52:12 PM  
The new Red Sox fans are pretty damn annoying. But Philly fans are much bigger douche bags. Mets fans are also pretty bad. But going to a Phillies/Mets game was pretty funny. I saw more people tossed from my section in that one game than I've seen in 15 years of watching the Cardinals.

And Red Sox Nation is supposed to talk about the entirety of their fan base, not the fact that they are the USA's team.
 
2007-08-31 2:52:25 PM  
"Red Sox Nation" is indeed a little annoying, coming from someone who was a Red Sox fan before all this pink-hat bullshiat started.

It's nowhere near as annoying as Patriots fandom is becoming though. Honestly, I might not even follow the Pats this year. They're becoming the Cowboys of the 00's.
 
2007-08-31 2:56:00 PM  
FlyingPig: "Red Sox Nation" is indeed a little annoying, coming from someone who was a Red Sox fan before all this pink-hat bullshiat started.

It's nowhere near as annoying as Patriots fandom is becoming though. Honestly, I might not even follow the Pats this year. They're becoming the Cowboys of the 00's.


I can deal with the Pats fans - at least they've got a reason to be cocky. What drives me nuts are the damn Celtics fans, who haven't stopped blathering since Garnett showed up. Jesus, what insufferable cocks. If you haven't won a damn thing since the 80s, you don't get to talk about all your rings. I mean even the Yankees have a ring with a "2" in the front digit.
 
2007-08-31 2:58:26 PM  
Every time I hear the Cowboys referred to as "America's Team", I cry a little inside.
 
2007-08-31 2:58:38 PM  
Not giving up on the Sox, I have watched or been to well over 100 games this season, just need a break tonight. Although, my tune will probably change around 705. The plan is to watch Commando instead and blow off some steam.
 
2007-08-31 2:59:33 PM  
Picture of said RSN member.

[image from morrisonfilm.com too old to be available]
 
2007-08-31 3:02:02 PM  
Robsul82:

You're a funny guy, Sully. I like you. That is why I am going to kill you last.
 
2007-08-31 3:02:30 PM  
Holophrastic: What drives me nuts are the damn Celtics fans, who haven't stopped blathering since Garnett showed up. Jesus, what insufferable cocks. If you haven't won a damn thing since the 80s, you don't get to talk about all your rings.

No argument here. I decided from day one that I am NOT jumping on the Celtics bandwagon.

You know what really pisses me off? People who wear Yankees hats in Boston. I don't care that there are people from NY who move to Boston and root for the Yankees. I can accept that. But if you wear the hat on the streets of Boston, YOU ARE DELIBERATELY DOING IT TO TRY AND START A FIGHT WITH RED SOX FANS. Cut that shiat out.

And yes, it's just as bad when Red Sox fans wear their attire in NY. You'll never see me going to NY wearing Red Sox clothing. If you're going to visit/move to a city, at least have some token amount of respect for where you are and DO NOT go in wearing the enemy colors.

It's almost as annoying as the asshole New York college kids who move to Boston for school, and then complain how much the pizza/bagels/Chinese/etc all suck compared to New York. Hey shiathead, NOBODY put a gun to your head and forced you to move here and eat it. And then they eat it anyway. Go the fark back to NY if it's so much better!

For the record, I actually love the city of New York and some of the people there. Just not the assholes, or their sports teams.
 
2007-08-31 3:03:45 PM  
Of course your not giving up on the Sox Gimpy, because they are in first place. Bandwagon fans like yourself will stick it through until they start losing.

Plus, you have to work on all your fifth grad homophobic jokes to use in future fark threads, and actually watching baseball would interfere with that.
 
2007-08-31 3:05:51 PM  
I'm a red sox fan, but I do get a kick out of the die-hard fans who call into WEEI. However, they never whine like some posters suggested above. They do try and rationalize losses, though.
 
2007-08-31 3:07:21 PM  
FlyingPig

I don't see what any of that has to do with the Yankees or New Yorkers. I Live in NYC currently and I see people with Red Sox gear CONSTANTLY. I also know plenty of people who daily wear a Chicago Bears hat or Timberwolves jersey or Phillies cap, etc.

For better or worse, most sports fans feel they can wear their old team clothes in a new city.
 
2007-08-31 3:09:24 PM  
Bill Frist

I've been on Fark for sometime now and I would never accuse Gimpy of being fair weather.

/just saying
 
2007-08-31 3:09:28 PM  
Yeah, I am known for my homophobic jokes, I have a list of them on note cards. I am also a huge bandwagon fan, it is why I follow the Jets because they are the best around nothings ever gonna keep them down.
 
2007-08-31 3:10:31 PM  
Bill Frist

/bandwagon rather
//oops
 
2007-08-31 3:11:21 PM  
FlyingPig: And yes, it's just as bad when Red Sox fans wear their attire in NY.

Actually, that doesn't bother me. Why should I care what team a stranger roots for?

I'll tell you one thing that bothered me, though. With a two year old, I go through an awful lot of milk, so I drove a bit further to get it on sale at a place that was advertising a gallon for $2.99 which is great because they are usually around $4.79/gal.

Anyhow, I get there and it's 'Hood' brand milk, which is fine, but all the caps had the Red Sox logo on there as some type of promotion. This is the middle of Long Island for crissakes.

I told my wife they were sold out...
 
2007-08-31 3:12:05 PM  
FlyingPig: You know what really pisses me off? People who wear Yankees hats in Boston. I don't care that there are people from NY who move to Boston and root for the Yankees. I can accept that. But if you wear the hat on the streets of Boston, YOU ARE DELIBERATELY DOING IT TO TRY AND START A FIGHT WITH RED SOX FANS. Cut that shiat out.

And yes, it's just as bad when Red Sox fans wear their attire in NY. You'll never see me going to NY wearing Red Sox clothing. If you're going to visit/move to a city, at least have some token amount of respect for where you are and DO NOT go in wearing the enemy colors.


I don't really have a problem with people in NYC wearing Red Sox gear. It's a free country, wear your gear anywhere you please.

I do, however, find it amusing the sheer number of people who feel the need to identify themselves as a Red Sox fan wherever they go. When you go out to a bar, is the backwards Boston cap really necessary?

Even more amusing is the family full of tourists, fresh from Walpole. Dad is wearing a Patriots shirt and Sox cap. Junior is wearing a Big Papi t-shirt and Sox cap. Little Miss is wearing a pink Papelbon t-shirt. Mom is wearing an embarassed look on her face that her family is full of douchebags.
 
2007-08-31 3:12:45 PM  
Gimpy, you already ADMITTED you had abandoned the Red Sox after their 2003 choke job and didn't watch a single game until the 2004 post season when they "won" you back as a fan. Be proud of your bandwagonism.

Of course, like chi_guy you seem to have just descended into self parody at this point.
 
2007-08-31 3:13:13 PM  
FlyingPig: You know what really pisses me off? People who wear Yankees hats in Boston. I don't care that there are people from NY who move to Boston and root for the Yankees. I can accept that. But if you wear the hat on the streets of Boston, YOU ARE DELIBERATELY DOING IT TO TRY AND START A FIGHT WITH RED SOX FANS. Cut that shiat out.

Interesting take. Where I take the bus every morning into Boston there's a kid with Downs Syndrome who wears Yankees shirts and hats just about every day. The bus drivers and MBTA workers give him crap all the time. He argues back, and they laugh about it. Maybe some poeple are just more grown up about the fact that some people like different teams.
 
2007-08-31 3:14:07 PM  
Bill Frist: I don't see what any of that has to do with the Yankees or New Yorkers. I Live in NYC currently and I see people with Red Sox gear CONSTANTLY.

And they're also assholes.

Bill Frist: For better or worse, most sports fans feel they can wear their old team clothes in a new city.

A new city, sure, but not the ONE city that happens to be the arch-enemy.

If an Orioles, Phillies, Cubs or whatever other type of fan wants to wear their hat in Boston, that's fine. If it's a Yankees hat, as far as I'm concerned, you are LOOKING for a fight. And it's not like I'm the kind of guy that would even go and GIVE them a fight over it. I don't even bother talking to them. It's just the attitude behind it. You're proudly flaunting the colors of a team that you KNOW most people in the city hate. It's rude and disrespectful. Root for the Yankees in Boston, I don't care. But leave the hat at home.
 
2007-08-31 3:15:30 PM  
FlyingPig:You know what really pisses me off? People who wear Yankees hats in Boston. I don't care that there are people from NY who move to Boston and root for the Yankees. I can accept that. But if you wear the hat on the streets of Boston, YOU ARE DELIBERATELY DOING IT TO TRY AND START A FIGHT WITH RED SOX FANS. Cut that shiat out.

Maybe the Yankees bribed the people wearing the Yankees hats.....just to piss you off.
 
2007-08-31 3:15:38 PM  
WinoRhino: The bus drivers and MBTA workers give him crap all the time. He argues back, and they laugh about it.

A retarded Yankees fan vs. a bunch of Boston civil workers.

That seems like a pretty fair fight actually.

/kidding, settle down
 
2007-08-31 3:16:05 PM  
Meh. The term "Nation" was applied to the Raiders before any farking baseball team co-opted it.
 
2007-08-31 3:16:57 PM  
Bill has no idea what he is talking about. Red Sox fans only attack players once they are off the team? Red Sox fans make more JD Drew jokes than anyone. Heck, even robsul has given us credit for inventing ones he wished he had thought up about bubble boy.

Although we have to come up with new jokes because that idiot refuses to get injured. Like I said before. It is ironic that all the fans of JD Drews former teams hate him because he couldn't get off the DL and red Sox fans hate him because he refuses to go on it.
 
2007-08-31 3:17:01 PM  
Yanks_RSJ: It's a free country, wear your gear anywhere you please.

I didn't say they didn't have the right to free speech. Yeah, you have a LEGAL right to wear your hat anywhere you want. I'm not saying they should be arrested for it. I'm saying they SHOULDN'T wear it in the opposing city, out of courtesy.
 
2007-08-31 3:17:11 PM  
PATS0707

Obviously you missed the thread were Gimpy admitted that it wasn't till this year he realized Johnny Damon wasn't still a Red Sox and were someone had to inform him that "Coco" wasn't Crisp's real name.
 
2007-08-31 3:18:05 PM  
E5K1M0: Maybe the Yankees bribed the people wearing the Yankees hats.....just to piss you off.

Hey asshole, stick to the current thread. You may NOT have a threadjack. Not yours.
 
2007-08-31 3:18:07 PM  
I once almost got jumped for wearing a red sox shirt taking the train from Manhattan to the Bronx. Bunch of guys resembling the Wu Tang Clan said i was wearing the wrong farking shirt. How did they know? Also, prior to getting on the train i asked a cop for directions and he said go ask someone else. Yeah, NY is awesome.
 
2007-08-31 3:18:34 PM  
FlyingPig Quote 2007-08-31 03:14:07 PM
Bill Frist: I don't see what any of that has to do with the Yankees or New Yorkers. I Live in NYC currently and I see people with Red Sox gear CONSTANTLY.

And they're also assholes.


Well I wouldn't go that far, though I'd agree it is a kind of dumb and annoying thing to do. I guess I just didn't know why you framed it as a NYer/Yankees thing (or a Boston and NY thing). Everyone seems to do it. I've lived in DC, I've lived in the south, etc. I've seen it everywhere.
 
2007-08-31 3:19:22 PM  
"C'mon, throw it slower and more over the plate!"


[image from thenosebleeds.com too old to be available]
 
2007-08-31 3:19:55 PM  

GimpyNip [TotalFark] Quote 2007-08-31 03:16:57 PM
Bill has no idea what he is talking about. Red Sox fans only attack players once they are off the team?


Ha, where did I say anything even close to that?
 
2007-08-31 3:20:52 PM  
PATS0707: Bunch of guys resembling the Wu Tang Clan said i was wearing the wrong farking shirt.

a) it probably was the Wu Tang Clan
b) maybe you were wearing 'blood' colors on 'crip' turf

The Yankee gang hats don't seem quite so stupid now, do they?
 
2007-08-31 3:21:37 PM  
Wise_Guy: That seems like a pretty fair fight actually.

Naw, the kid usually gets the better of them.
 
2007-08-31 3:22:05 PM  
FlyingPig:Hey asshole, stick to the current thread. You may NOT have a threadjack. Not yours.

I am so very sorry. Please, continue to whine about people wearing hats.
 
2007-08-31 3:22:09 PM  
Wise_Guy

Is white not neutral anymore? I'm gonna have to go drive through jamaica plain and find out.
 
2007-08-31 3:22:45 PM  
PATS0707: I once almost got jumped for wearing a red sox shirt taking the train from Manhattan to the Bronx. Bunch of guys resembling the Wu Tang Clan said i was wearing the wrong farking shirt. How did they know?

To be fair, that could happen to anyone on their way to the Bronx.
 
2007-08-31 3:23:04 PM  
Bill, this is bad comedy. Find those posts, please. K THX bye

/total fark has an ignore function, right?
//20 of the headlines I submitted last season were Damon joke but whatever
///dont know where the 2004 comment came from but blatantly lies never stopped you
 
2007-08-31 3:23:58 PM  
PATS0707: Is white not neutral anymore?

I have no idea.

Go with plaid. I here it confuses them long enough to make a break for it.
 
2007-08-31 3:25:18 PM  
Yanks_RSJ

/off topic

Is Manhattan always a rat hole with newspapers and garbage flying around? Maybe just one bad day?
 
2007-08-31 3:26:18 PM  
Oh come now Gimp, you've spent the last week trying to diss me with made up claims like that I said I'd claimed to never enter "sox threads" or that I had a 15 post per 15 day quota.

Gotta learn to take some of your own medicine.

And even you have to admit it was pretty damn funny when you were going on a rant and called your guy "Large Papi." I mean, you don't even know your own players nicknames, you can't take yourself too seriously.
 
2007-08-31 3:26:53 PM  
Bill Frist: Well I wouldn't go that far, though I'd agree it is a kind of dumb and annoying thing to do.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

Bill Frist: I guess I just didn't know why you framed it as a NYer/Yankees thing (or a Boston and NY thing). Everyone seems to do it. I've lived in DC, I've lived in the south, etc. I've seen it everywhere.

I'm saying you shouldn't wear the hat of the team that is specifically THE MOST HATED team in wherever you're living.

Such as:

A Steelers hat in Dallas

A Pats fan in Indianapolis

A Cubs hat in St. Louis

etc.

It's just rude. If you've decided you want to make a place your new home, or even just visit, you at least owe the city a token amount of respect while you're there, even if you're not a fan of the home team. It's fine to wear a hat that isn't the home team, but not THE ENEMY, as it were. That IS a little bit like wearing "blood" colors on "crip" turf (alright, it's a slight exaggeration, but the same idea). You're intentionally trying to provoke a fight with the locals if you do that.

Granted it's a little bit hard not to do in places like NY and Chicago that have two rival teams, but for the most part, I think it's just a matter of common courtesy. You can still root for the enemy, just don't be OBVIOUS about it.
 
2007-08-31 3:29:33 PM  
FlyingPig:

Well, I agree with you for the most part. Just saying I don't think it is specific to NYers by any stretch.
 
2007-08-31 3:29:54 PM  
You guys don't like Sox fans?

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Your loss. ;)

(Seriously, people. Every team has douchebag fans. Get over all of the "Your Team Has Worse Fans Than Mine" stupidity.)
 
2007-08-31 3:30:42 PM  
Bill Frist: Just saying I don't think it is specific to NYers by any stretch.

I never said it was. I just made it about NYers because that's example of the behavior that I see on a daily basis, living in Boston as it were.
 
2007-08-31 3:31:50 PM  
Morlith: Seriously, people. Every team has douchebag fans. Get over all of the "Your Team Has Worse Fans Than Mine" stupidity.)

There are a minority of Yankees fans that are knowledgeable about the game. In my experience, though, most of them tend to be over 60.
 
2007-08-31 3:33:47 PM  
Anyways...Football starts up this coming Thursday.
 
2007-08-31 3:35:33 PM  
I think I just threw up in my mouth a bit. GIS for hot yankees fan

[image from hillary.org too old to be available]
 
2007-08-31 3:35:44 PM  
FlyingPig: It's just rude. If you've decided you want to make a place your new home, or even just visit, you at least owe the city a token amount of respect while you're there, even if you're not a fan of the home team. It's fine to wear a hat that isn't the home team, but not THE ENEMY, as it were. That IS a little bit like wearing "blood" colors on "crip" turf (alright, it's a slight exaggeration, but the same idea). You're intentionally trying to provoke a fight with the locals if you do that.

I think you're a little too sensitive about this. In NYC, it's hard to give a shiat that a guy is wearing a Sox hat when on the next corner there's a guy yelling to himself while waving a tire iron and wearing a home made 'eyes still in there' fur coat in July.
 
2007-08-31 3:36:07 PM  
As a Red Sox fan I can proudly state that I am NOT a member of Red Sox Nation. Aren't the members of Red Sox Nation really just fans post 2004 World Series Win? Kind of like the Pink hats?
 
2007-08-31 3:36:32 PM  
PATS0707: Yanks_RSJ

/off topic

Is Manhattan always a rat hole with newspapers and garbage flying around? Maybe just one bad day?


I assume it's just one bad day. I mean, if it's a windy/rainy day, yes it's pretty bad sometimes. On an ordinary summer day like today, it's the greatest place in the world, IMO.
 
2007-08-31 3:36:35 PM  
FlyingPig: There are a minority of Yankees fans that are knowledgeable about the game. In my experience, though, most of them tend to be over 60.

OMG you actually talk to Yankees fans? What if they're wearing a hat?
 
2007-08-31 3:36:42 PM  
FlyingPig: There are a minority of Yankees fans that are knowledgeable about the game. In my experience, though, most of them tend to be over 60.

How often do you get out of Boston? There's plenty of Yankees fans of all different ages who know lots of stuff about baseball. Do you think the Yankees fans on FARK are all around that age or something?
 
2007-08-31 3:36:45 PM  
Bill, just go and reread your posts from the NL cubs brewers discussion thread from Tuesday. It is all right there. Nothing made up.
 
2007-08-31 3:37:25 PM  
I'm a Yankees fan. That being said, I submit this to you.


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2007-08-31 3:39:31 PM  
Completely made up. I"ve never ever said I didn't enter sox threads. I follow the Yankees and live in NYC so I'll post in those sometimes.

My only claims where that I rarely ever enter chicago threads, I'd only done it like twice in the past few months for some cheap laughs, and that I'm not by any stretch one of the frequent sports posters. I post in maybe one thread a day.

But I'm not sure why I'm even arguing with you. You were the guy who OPENLY ADMITTED that you didn't realize Johnny Damon wasn't a Red Sock any longer until this season. You said you thought he'd been on the DL list.

LOLZ!
 
2007-08-31 3:39:40 PM  
Wise_Guy: OMG you actually talk to Yankees fans? What if they're wearing a hat?

LOL. He's acting like someone hijacked the capitol building and flew a Yankees flag. A guy wearing a hat is just that: A guy wearing a hat.
 
2007-08-31 3:40:28 PM  
Morlith: You guys don't like Sox fans?

farm2.static.flickr.com

Your loss. ;)


Well played, my friend. Well played.
 
2007-08-31 3:41:49 PM  
Get over your bad team, homey.
 
2007-08-31 3:46:30 PM  
squidloe: As a Red Sox fan I can proudly state that I am NOT a member of Red Sox Nation. Aren't the members of Red Sox Nation really just fans post 2004 World Series Win? Kind of like the Pink hats?

Yes. Exactly. Me too.

Wise_Guy: OMG you actually talk to Yankees fans? What if they're wearing a hat?

Settle down, dude. I've known a good number of Yankees fans. A few were alright. Most of them were clueless homers. And before you go on the defensive, yes, a lot of Red Sox fans are too. I admitted this in my original post. I try NOT to be one of those types. Which is why I would NEVER wear a Red Sox hat in New York. It reeks of arrogance and belligerence.

Morlith: Do you think the Yankees fans on FARK are all around that age or something?

Ha! You think the Yankees fans on Fark are knowledgeable?
 
2007-08-31 3:53:37 PM  
FlyingPig: Settle down, dude. I've known a good number of Yankees fans.

Did you have to meet on neutral ground? Say, Connecticut?

Ha! You think the Yankees fans on Fark are knowledgeable?

Compared to most, yes.

You're just Mr Generalization today. Or is it always?
 
2007-08-31 3:54:03 PM  
Bill Frist: Completely made up. I"ve never ever said I didn't enter sox threads. I follow the Yankees and live in NYC so I'll post in those sometimes.

My only claims where that I rarely ever enter chicago threads, I'd only done it like twice in the past few months for some cheap laughs, and that I'm not by any stretch one of the frequent sports posters. I post in maybe one thread a day.


True, but misleading. I believe that you said you don't haunt Sox threads. In the context of that denial, it sounded like you meant you don't troll ("for cheap laughs") in Sox threads for sport, which today's thread would certainly contradict.
 
2007-08-31 3:55:41 PM  
FlyingPig: I try NOT to be one of those types. Which is why I would NEVER wear a Red Sox hat in New York. It reeks of arrogance and belligerence.

You and Youkilis share something in common.

You both think you're so important that people would go after you, based on nothing at all.
 
2007-08-31 3:57:40 PM  
Piper: Wow, you guys put more effort into reading my posts than I do into writing them.

But I don't see how I've been trolling here, unless you think EVERYONE'S been trolling. Its a thread about how the Red Sox Nation sucks and I made some arguments for how I agree.

Considering the average post on fark is just "your gay" mine might as well be grad school dissertations.
 
2007-08-31 4:00:23 PM  
Yanks_RSJ

Even more amusing is the family full of tourists, fresh from Walpole. Dad is wearing a Patriots shirt and Sox cap. Junior is wearing a Big Papi t-shirt and Sox cap. Little Miss is wearing a pink Papelbon t-shirt. Mom is wearing an embarassed look on her face that her family is full of douchebags.

See, I don't care who you're a fan of... that's funny shiat right there.
 
2007-08-31 4:01:06 PM  
Piper: Going back and looking at the thread, my only response to that Gimpy diss was

"Anyway, not picking a fight with Chicago just saying I didn't know bill_frist haunted you guys also."

Haunted? lolz. Sorry I strike home so easily for some of the more douchebag posters, but I barely post on fark at all. Hell, today is the first day I've posted more than 3 posts in over a week.


I stand by that. Every once in awhile I check fark and maybe post a few times in one thread. Saying someone "haunts" some other posters sounds like someone who spends tons of time trolling threads. But I didn't make any claim at all about "not posting in Sox threads" nor even did I claim I troll or don't troll.
 
2007-08-31 4:04:54 PM  
I"d also note I was laughing more at the notion that I haunted chicago threads, when really I just posted one thing that pissed a few chicago kids off a few days ago and then had maybe a half dozen post arguement with same kids in one other thread.

If that is "haunting" I don't know what to say.
 
2007-08-31 4:05:34 PM  
Wiseguy: A retarded Yankees fan vs. a bunch of Boston civil workers.

That seems like a pretty fair fight actually.

/kidding, settle down


Thanks for the giggle. Sadly, I see the Yankees fan winning.
 
2007-08-31 4:17:17 PM  
Bill Frist: But I don't see how I've been trolling here, unless you think EVERYONE'S been trolling.

Actually, I think you're the only Yanks fan who's acting sensibly right now.

Bill Frist: I"d also note I was laughing more at the notion that I haunted chicago threads, when really I just posted one thing that pissed a few chicago kids off a few days ago and then had maybe a half dozen post arguement with same kids in one other thread.

The Chicago clique are some of the biggest instigating, back-patting, dogpiling douchebags on Fark. I don't like them either. See, we can agree on something.
 
2007-08-31 4:34:45 PM  
PATS0707: I once almost got jumped for wearing a red sox shirt taking the train from Manhattan to the Bronx. Bunch of guys resembling the Wu Tang Clan said i was wearing the wrong farking shirt.

uh...that's cuz it was RED, not because it said "Red Sox". welcome to NYC. (hint: blank/gold and purple were also the "wrong farking shirt")
 
2007-08-31 4:50:52 PM  
dstanley,

I guess you're a glass half empty sort of guy.
 
2007-08-31 5:26:35 PM  
TheSup3rN0va: I disagree with your assertion about Owens. I strongly believe, and I've said this before on Fark, that his issues have stemmed from worthless, over the hill and/or douchebaggy coaches (Reid, Mooch, Tuna) and QBs (McInjured, Garcia, Bledsoe). He has a chance to prove my point this year, and we'll see, but I think you'll be surprised.

\Cowboys fan since I found out what football was
\\More worried about Romo than TO
\\\Can we has John David Booty next year just in case?


*waves to fellow 'Boys fan*
(not many of us around in disyere forum!)

I just don't care for TO or his big mouth. He's talked a lot but hasn't walked the walk--coaches or whatever aside. I think part of the problem is that Owens was/is Jerry's pet and Tuna was hamstrung. I have to say that Owens has been unusually quiet thus far this season and am glad. Now the team can concentrate on better things than the media circus over his Lance Armstrong impersonations.

I am confused as to the hiring of ol' Bum Phillips' boy. Were you?

Can we has good offensive line? Can we has chance?

=D
 
2007-08-31 5:35:59 PM  
what a joke.
no one comes close to yankees fans
stfu
 
2007-08-31 5:41:10 PM  
Leaf fans are worse
 
2007-08-31 5:43:34 PM  
I like the Red Sox.

but THAT's not why I'm an asshole.

/actually go to pats and sox games elsewhere and get along with the other fans very well.
 
2007-08-31 6:17:45 PM  
afxjzs

uhhhh.... Actually it was white. I made note of that later in the thread.
 
2007-08-31 6:37:03 PM  
I think FlyingPig needs to get a life
then get laid, you're taking hats way to freaking
serious man. Sometimes a hat is just a hat.
 
2007-08-31 6:39:25 PM  
"They call themselves Red Sox Nation, the same arrogant way the Cowboys call themselves America's Team. And the whole thing is getting a little old"

What's really getting old is ESPN whining about it.
 
2007-08-31 8:04:37 PM  
Jim Caple: I say this as a former Red Sox fan douchebag bandwagoning dynasty fellating POS

FTFY

i215.photobucket.comView Full Size


btw, devil rays vs yankees, fans were chanting "Boston sucks"
class my a$$
 
2007-08-31 8:06:23 PM  
I hate Raider fans, but they were using 'nation' at least a decade before the red sox fans ever did.
 
2007-08-31 8:55:55 PM  
and here I thought this was the game thread.
 
2007-08-31 9:15:36 PM  
lilplatinum: Tat'dGreaser: What a farking tool. Everyone knows Yankee fans are the worst fans in the history of organized sports. Ok, Raiders fans are a very close second.

I would venture that Notre Dame fans rank up there..


I live in South Bend, so I think that gives me the authority to say, THIS.
 
2007-08-31 10:20:28 PM  
Wise_Guy:
The only thing Sox fans have going for them is that their team happens to be in the same division as the Yankees, otherwise they would be the team with the local following and the crappy history that nobody cares about-- kind of like the Pirates.

Ouch. I feel almost like you're trying to slap me with the forehand AND the backhand on that one.
 
2007-09-01 12:29:29 AM  
lilbjorn: "They call themselves Red Sox Nation, the same arrogant way the Cowboys call themselves America's Team. And the whole thing is getting a little old"

What's really getting old is ESPN whining about it.


Not to mention Sox fans denying their own douchebaggery.

/not a Yankees fan
 
2007-09-01 1:42:17 AM  
I am Jack's user id: Ouch. I feel almost like you're trying to slap me with the forehand AND the backhand on that one.

LOL. Sorry, Jack. I assure you that I did not have you in mind when I wrote that.
 
2007-09-01 6:36:15 AM  
Wise_Guy:
The only thing Sox fans have going for them is that their team happens to be in the same division as the Yankees, otherwise they would be the team with the local following and the crappy history that nobody cares about-- kind of like the Pirates.

You know... I like to consider myself a reasonable person, even, sometimes, a reasonable Sox fan. Sure, there are times when certain people on this site push my buttons and I go a little overboard - as a "fan", I think that comes with the territory.

I usually have considered you to be a reasonable person, even a reasonable Yankees fan.

And then sometimes you go ahead and drop a load of sh*t like that post.

And, I didn't read the whole thread, so it might have been pointed out already, but Red Sox Nation wasn't a Shaughnessy thing, originally. I think it was Bob Ryan.

And - unlike the Cowboys' and Braves' claims that they were "America's Team[s]", "Red Sox Nation" only applies to Sox fans, wherever we are. And we're everywhere.
 
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