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(NYPost)   Saddam Hussein experimenting with unmanned aerial drones to attack US   ( divider line
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2002-09-09 10:31:35 AM  
The veep said European countries have inferior spies and know less than America's spies about Iraq. "I think we're better than anybody else, generally, in this area," he said.

Way to rally the allies, Dick!

So who was holding the gun to Powell's head? Attack of the drones, oh my!
2002-09-09 12:50:24 PM  
I wonder if this article, or the Israel/Britney Spears article is going to generate a bigger flamewar.
2002-09-09 12:50:30 PM  
i wonder what unmanned aerial drones looked like in the 80's? about as tacky as everything else??
2002-09-09 12:50:39 PM  
Look everybody, the two guys who want to go to war as much as Dubya does are making stuff up again...farking retards
2002-09-09 12:51:10 PM  
A spy satellite must have seen some hobby enthusiasts with model airplanes.

Spin, Dubya, Spin!

Only two months 'til the election!
2002-09-09 12:51:20 PM  
Well, I won't be afraid of the drones, unless they blair out the music, "Ride of the Valkyries " then it's every man for themselves.

Charlie don't surf here !

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2002-09-09 12:51:47 PM  
In other news, you may possibly be hit by a bus.
Christ, anybody may do anything. I love all the propaganda coming out to bolster Bush's need for another war (increase poll ratings).
2002-09-09 12:51:57 PM  
Osama and Saddam are the boogeymen of this administration. Anything bad that happens can, are, and will be blamed on them. From the war on terror to that stain on the carpet these two are to blame.
2002-09-09 12:52:43 PM  
Second Variety, anyone?

This is the problem with technology - the sumperempowered angry man, as Thomas Friedman called it.

What stops someone from gassing one of these up in New Jersey, hooking it up to a transmitter with a camera, flying in low, and dosing Times Square with some crap? Range, that's it, and the range on these things is increasing.

Major league unfun.
2002-09-09 12:53:48 PM  

I swear someday I'll get finger reduction surgery so I can type.
2002-09-09 12:53:51 PM  
On CNN, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, echoing remarks....

Isn't that all she does? Repeat what Dickie, Rummy, etc. are saying?

Farking useless.
2002-09-09 12:54:17 PM  
You'd think they could come up with propaganda that is a LITTLE less retarded.
2002-09-09 12:56:23 PM  
The veep said European countries have inferior spies and know less than America's spies about Iraq. "I think we're better than anybody else, generally, in this area," he said.

Which is why we ignored them when they told us that Al Qaeda was planning something big and the CIA said "Nope, nothin' goin' on that we can see"...

Suck it Oil Slick.

2002-09-09 12:56:49 PM  
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[yawn] Still waiting...
2002-09-09 12:58:22 PM  
And in a totally unrelated story China is pointing all of its thermonuclear warheads straight at the United States, and nobody gives a schit.

Now, back to the weather.
2002-09-09 12:58:22 PM  
this is farking retarded
2002-09-09 12:58:48 PM  
Wow. Gee, I'm scared. I'm envisioning balsa-wood airplanes with rubber-band propellers and an eyedropper full of goo. Where's the threat, George? Is it too late to vote for Powell? The scary part is that the administration is operating under the belief that there actually IS someone out there that agrees with them.

(ducking ensuing flamewar)

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2002-09-09 12:59:06 PM  
I thought they had confirmed that Saddam Hussein was somehow connected to the Tupac shooting, and that was all we needed to go to war with Iraq.
2002-09-09 01:02:33 PM  

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Not to be confused with the Yugo.
2002-09-09 01:02:33 PM  
The only drones we need to worry about are the ones who believe what they read in the NYPost.
2002-09-09 01:03:55 PM  
It sucks how the whole world hates us because our leaders suck. And don't give me that "you voted for him crap", because not many people did...or maybe they just won't admit it.
2002-09-09 01:03:56 PM  
All the Sadam sympathizes really ought to wake the fuk up.
When Sadam pulls off a tragedy similar to the 9-11 tragedies you will see we as a nation should have stood by our presidents desire to bomb the living shiat out of Iraq.

Fuk them, who needs them. They are ugly and they stink like shiat. Kill them all.
2002-09-09 01:03:56 PM  
Nightsweat, I would imagine the fighter jets flying overhead in NYC (still) would have something to say about a low flying plane headed for Times Square. Other places, yes, but NYC is safer than most places.
2002-09-09 01:04:59 PM  
Damn Moonie propaganda.
2002-09-09 01:05:03 PM  
No matter what reasons come out of Washington to take out Iraq all you people still will be whining for more reasons. There have been plenty of reasons stated, but I guess you all don't like any of them. Well you know what? Thats just too bad. They don't need your approval at all. No matter what new reasons are revealed you all still won't like it.
2002-09-09 01:06:33 PM  
"And he suggested that Saddam's most dangerous move may be to infect American citizens with the plague."

That made me laugh.
2002-09-09 01:06:38 PM  
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2002-09-09 01:06:48 PM  
In other news, US shoots down Iraqi unmanned aerial drones.
2002-09-09 01:06:52 PM  
"They don't need your approval at all. No matter what new reasons are revealed you all still won't like it."

Great, the government doesn't need our approval anymore?
2002-09-09 01:07:00 PM  
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Saddam doesn't seem like the type who would attack us with smallpox. He's more a "run all the oil into the Gulf" kind of guy.
2002-09-09 01:07:42 PM  


Colin Powell charged yesterday that Saddam Hussein is experimenting with using unmanned drones to drop deadly chemical and biological weapons.

September 9, 2002 --

WASHINGTON - Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is experimenting with unmanned aerial drones to attack the United States or its allies with deadly chemical or biological weapons, Secretary of State Colin Powell charged yesterday.

Powell said Saddam "has been working hard" at using drones to drop deadly toxins on people from far off.

"He's looking for ways to disseminate it because just having it in a stockpile doesn't do you any good - you have to have a means of delivering it. And that's what concerns us," Powell said.

His remarks were backed up by America's top military man - Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff - who said Saddam has his eyes on a "broad spectrum" of tools to deliver chemical weapons, from tanks to flying drones.

The remarks from White House officials were part of a deliberate effort yesterday to fill the airwaves with the
Bush administration's message that Iraq poses an immediate and significant threat.

Not to be confused with the fact that we DON'T KNOW that Iraq is an immediate and significant threat.

Shrubs pronouncements and reality have no relation to each other.
2002-09-09 01:07:42 PM  
Let's just provoke him until he decimates Israel, then take him out.
2002-09-09 01:08:21 PM  
Zed: well said!
They'll attack if they want to. And you know why? Because they CAN.
2002-09-09 01:09:21 PM  
Dubbya is reaching for a light switch in the dark.

He's a farkin' fool
2002-09-09 01:09:37 PM  
LOL @ EyeballKid!

Ok, let's try to formulate a viable solution for this problem. What would you all do if you were president Bush? What would your strategy be for dealing with Iraq?
2002-09-09 01:09:39 PM  
Morden: Hilarious. My thoughts exactly. I don't think most people realize what is REALLY going on.
2002-09-09 01:10:57 PM  
Why is that scary?
We used drones in Afghanistan. They are only useful for recon. As for attacks, they only really work if the target has no good anti-aircraft defense (like in Afghanistan).
I don't think the USA has to worry about that. Our forces will blast those things from dozens of miles away.

--In other "SCARY" news, Saddam just bought a gun
2002-09-09 01:11:24 PM  
Rifter: Nope, not after you elect them. They can do whatever they want.
2002-09-09 01:11:35 PM  
I'm with Ironbar. What the fark is Saddam going to accomplish by attacking the U.S.? Even if Iraq has nuclear weapons, we have a lot more. Ours also have a delivery system. If Saddam makes a first strike against the U.S., he's going to get smeared in a matter of days.
2002-09-09 01:12:13 PM  
Bbcrackmonkey Don't you know anything? That's stratagery

2002-09-09 01:12:38 PM  
Whoa! That's spooky. My post above actually begins with

The remarks from White House officials..... What's above that may have been my copying incorrectly or I have farked Fark.
2002-09-09 01:12:41 PM  
To tell the truth, I do not think an attack on Iraq is as imminent as you all might think. I also doubt that this is motivated by the upcoming elections. First of all, the presidents approval ratings are already very high. No matter what he does, he won't better those numbers by any significant order. Second, the elections are two months away. Does anyone remember how long it took to build up the forces before Desert Shield became Desert Storm? Third, Bush is if nothing else a politician. He already knows a significant portion of his own party oppose a war with Iraq. I do not believe he is naive enough to assume they will just rally behind him blindly ESPECIALLY when they have already publicly spoken out against it. After all, they are politicians, too.

I am becoming increasingly convinced that what is really going on here is the white house trying to scare the iraqi government to the bargaining table. The more they feel the threat of war is indeed real, and not just some vindictive hyperbole, the more likely they will adhere to the demands of the UN.

Though this begs the question: What do we do when the inspectors indeed find what we all know they will find if they are allowed back in? I think thats why the international coalition against Iraq is so weak now. The reality is that even if the intent of all this rhetoric is to send in the inspectors, the final outcome may indeed be war when Iraq throws yet another wave of inspectors out of the country for coming close to actually finding something. This will of course happen after the UN (Under the direction of the US) threatens Iraq with military action if they do not cooperate.

This is just my $0.02

As I am going to be paying a visit to a dentist this after to have a tooth excavated, I will not be around to participate in the inevitable flame war. I'll check back later and see how lame I am, how stupid the president of the US is, and how 9/11 would never have happened if the US didn't have such a poor policy in the middle east.

Flame on, my brothers.
2002-09-09 01:13:54 PM  
If that's the best the administration can come up with, a farking DRONE, we need to impeach the bastards before it is too late.

Been talking up this war for months and all they come up with is a farking DRONE what kind of lame ass shiat is that?

We've got 5000 farking cruise missiles and we're worried about a farking DRONE? We've got a gazillion nuclear weapons and we're supposed to be scared of a DRONE?

What a bunch of assholes.
2002-09-09 01:15:24 PM  
Saddam does not pose any sort of threat to the United States. The man is crazy, not stupid. He knows that if he tried to attack us with his little toy planes filled with hoof & mouth disease that we'd:

A) Blast them out of the sky
B) Blast him off the ground
C) Claim we were attacked first and have our allies behind us.
2002-09-09 01:15:35 PM  
Umm Jed, what proof do we have that Sadaam has weapons of mass destruction? Only Shrub's word, which has not been enough to sway many allies. Show me unbiased proof, or a final denial of UN Inspectors rights to any desired facility and I'll give the gov't 100% support.

Bush DOES need the approval of the American people, that is if he wishes to be re-elected.

Futhermore, I'd like to see some thoughts on what to do post "regime change." A puppet gov't will not be likely to survive long. Who will pay for it? If we don't, the Iraqi people will only continue to hate us. Furthermore, we would have to ensure we take out both of his sons, who are as nuts as he is.

I'm not against war with Iraq, but I am against unfettered war without merit.

Finally, doesn't the UN charter (which we ratified) condemn the use of agression unless for defense purposes? Aren't the other members required to provide aid to the country defending. I'm a little hazy on my knowledge here and am by no means an expert on this subject. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
2002-09-09 01:16:34 PM  
Iraq has finally mastered the art of Carrier Pigeons.
2002-09-09 01:16:36 PM  
No matter what reasons come out of Washington to take out Iraq all you people still will be whining for more reasons. There have been plenty of reasons stated, but I guess you all don't like any of them. Well you know what? Thats just too bad. They don't need your approval at all. No matter what new reasons are revealed you all still won't like it.

And the day that the government officially begins to operate without the will of the people, is the day that the Second American Revolution begins.

A lot of "reasons" for starting a war (did you catch that? The US wants to start a war) with Iraq, and they all have the same thing in common: "Trust us, he's a bad man".

They have yet to offer any sort of proof about his posession on CBR weapons, only platitudes and conjecture.

2002-09-09 01:17:18 PM  
AndrewFish - Minutes more like, ICBMs travel quite fast :)
2002-09-09 01:17:25 PM  
When Dubya stepped out over the weekend with Tony Blair and did the whole "hey we got this guy to go along with us" dance, it was really embarrassing. If the US storms Iraq and finds so much as a 40 year old busted Geiger counter, Dubya is going to stand up and say "look everybody, Saddam was making nuclear bombs to blow up the world and I saved you!" The GOP will make out like Dubya is some sort of genius and plenty of morons will buy it.
Or, it could all go terribly wrong. There could be gigantic US casualties, there could be a split in the military, Dick could start yapping at Dubya "stay outta my way doofus" and visa versa, the US could be looking at all sorts of backlash for another decade. Great.
2002-09-09 01:17:30 PM  
In preparations for Bush's September 12 speech to the U.N., the Administration appears to have taken a leaf from the Cuban missile crisis forty years ago, when Ambassador Adlai Stevenson provided incontrovertible proof from intelligence photographs that the Soviets had placed nuclear weapons in Cuba.
Stevenson's photos were authentic, undoctored, and clear proof.

The Bush photos have no clear proof of anything.

-- from the good folks at MWO
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