Weaver95:

Now, i'm not saying that planned parenthood is still trying to breed a bunch of supermen. But you can't deny that by sticking to Sanger's original plan(s) the end result is going to be less of those kinds of children Sanger always said she didn't want (i.e. kids born to poor people, drug addicts, social undesirables, minorities, ect ect).

This is not a bad thing. It enables a kind of Darwinian natural selection in an age when the traditional controls like predation, disease and misadventure are all but nonexistent. Something has to put the balance back. If people choose to opt out of parenthood when it's clearly biologically imminent, then they're not fit to be parents at that time by simple virtue of that choice.

Notice how this neatly sidesteps the "it's not a choice it's a child" argument. Either way, the fitness function is satisfied.

MyNameIsNotMervGriffin: stjohn: It enables a kind of Darwinian natural selection in an age when the traditional controls like predation, disease and misadventure are all but nonexistent.

Hmm. If you believe that then we should end all funding for abortion, plus all welfare of any sort and any government-paid medical care.

Thanks to the farkwits in charge for the last 12 years, it's more like that than ever. While we're at it, let's remove the warning labels, handrails, crosswalk signals, and seat belts. That should help too. Not that you were looking, but my point was that civilization alters the evolutionary patterns brought on by natural selection. If you remove all barriers to natural selection, you wind up with a nation of obese idiots unprepared for any type of adversity beyond fitting behind the wheel.


Seems to me the ability to take care of oneself should include not only the ability to defend against predators, but also the ability to make wise health choices and to earn the money needed to support those choices.

This has nothing to do with allowing the unprepared/unfit to opt out of breeding. In the classical, natural sense, you have to work pretty hard to fall off the wagon of life in this country. Everyone's pretty much going to make it through the night without being eaten or falling into a volcano. This is my point. It's hard to get culled. Really hard. So hard that population density will reach unsustainable levels before too long. So keeping that safety valve open, however small, is a Good Thing. I'm gonna go out on a limb and embrace the classical Republican value of small government and minimal meddling in the lives of the people. To both ends, a $500 legalized, subsidized abortion is, in the most extreme cases, much cheaper than a lifetime of assistance or incarceration.