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2002-09-06 03:00:13 AM  
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The old Monty Python ladies applaud the police's actions.
2002-09-06 03:00:57 AM  
My name is Dominic Montoya, you killed my brother, prepare to die.
2002-09-06 03:03:56 AM  
Although the story is sad...

I can't help but LMAO @ Lordargent's post...
2002-09-06 03:05:19 AM  
cues up "Let's hear it for the boy"
2002-09-06 03:05:26 AM  
That is pretty farking funny, Lordargent
2002-09-06 03:05:49 AM  
Guess his prayers didn't get answered.
2002-09-06 03:06:01 AM  
Obviously victim-precipitated homicide, suicide-by-cop. The poor kid knew the cop would smoke him. RIP.
2002-09-06 03:09:06 AM  
I guess life must really suck when you're possessed by demons.
2002-09-06 03:09:56 AM  
Better title would have been dumbass.

Sad story, but aim a gun at a cop, ask him to evaluate in a 10th of a second if it is real, if he will go home after shift, or if it is a fake....and dont expect to get shot?
2002-09-06 03:12:02 AM  
09-06-02 03:00:13 AM SLAYERSWINE

The old Monty Python ladies applaud the police's actions.

Monty Python is such an inferior comedy even "special" children rarely laugh at their idiocy.
2002-09-06 03:13:20 AM  
*You're gonna put your eye out!*
2002-09-06 03:14:56 AM  
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2002-09-06 03:17:17 AM  
What wonderful news!! One less future murderer/robber/rapist!!! Great job, cops!
2002-09-06 03:17:28 AM  
The "poor kid" isn't the one that I feel sorry for. How about that cop that had to waste him?
2002-09-06 03:17:29 AM  

Just re-read the article, and it has an advert asking "Why are these parents smiling?"

I can only guess because there possessed son has been ventilated!
2002-09-06 03:22:11 AM  
Peepslayer, hmmm, interesting handle. How didst thou come about with yon title?

As for the kid...rule number one: never hold a weapon unless you have every intention of using it. You won't always get a second chance.
2002-09-06 03:22:17 AM  
one more demon-possessed lowlife scumbag off the streets. just another day in the life of the boys in blue.
2002-09-06 03:22:44 AM  
I suppose the media needs to cover the subject more.

Don't hold up anything resembling a gun to the police when in a hostile situation.

Perhaps there should be a PAX movie made?

This is Darwin. Plain and simple.
2002-09-06 03:23:05 AM  
You are an heartless jerk, I mean sure the kid shouldn't have done what he did, but you have to assume that at 14 years old his judgment must have been pretty farked up do that. Kids don't always think before they do things, theres many things I've done that I look back at and wonder why I'm still alive. I do understand that the cop had to do what he felt was necessary to protect himself & others at the time. But this is really sad, I mean 14 years old is pretty damn young. Poor kid.... his life must have been pretty farked up.
2002-09-06 03:27:09 AM  

The kid pulled a gun on the cops. How were they to know what kind it was?

14 is old enough to know what's going on in the world.
2002-09-06 03:28:13 AM  
and I agree, his life must have been pretty sad to resort to this ploy for attention.
2002-09-06 03:36:06 AM  
I am callous and have little sympathy for him.
2002-09-06 03:36:21 AM  
I agree also, but there are 14 yr olds joining gangs everyday... not saying that this one was but he was old enough to know better than to be out with a gun and threatening ppl... It may not have have been a real gun but I would bet most ppl would have done the same thing as the cop...
2002-09-06 03:37:39 AM  
Sweater Girl
You obviously missed the part of my post where I said "I do understand that the cop had to do what he felt was necessary to protect himself & others." I never questioned the police officers judgment, I just think that people can be pretty cold sometimes. Yes the kid was wrong and used horrible judgment, but it doesn't mean that everyone on here has to bash him, or call him a dumbass. I'm sure he suffered plenty in his life, without also needing to be mocked in death by people like you.
2002-09-06 03:38:26 AM  
Maybe saying you are possessed by the devil and go pulling BB guns on people is a sign of a serious emotional problems, and not a plea for attention. Oh, well, one less 14 year old.

And that Princess Bride reference would get my vote if it were enabled.
2002-09-06 03:43:07 AM  
I just don't understand you people who feel its necessary to mock someone in death. If their dead then they've payed their debt to society no matter what they did. I can't stand people who treat death as such a non-chalant thing. I'm sure this kid had a family, a mother, father, brothers, sisters. Think about them for a moment, think about if this was someone you loved, he may have had issues but I'm sure he was loved nonetheless. Or maybe not, maybe he wasn't loved enough. Either way, I just feel that it is very weak & ignorant to insult someone once they have died, its pointless.
2002-09-06 03:43:34 AM  
I've never said this, but it needs to be said.

You're a dumbass.

Monty Python as "inferior humor"? Bring on your "superior" version. Otherwise, shut the hell up.
2002-09-06 03:43:37 AM  
kolacky is right. this kid knew exactly what was going to happen. perhaps he was a tad religious and felt suicide would send him to hell so he wanted someone else to kill him instead. i dont know, but i think the cop was much more the victim here. the rest of his life he's going to remember that he killed a 14 year old kid with a bb gun.
2002-09-06 03:44:49 AM  
PolloDiablo - At the risk of sounding like a cold, heartless bastard...

If I ever die in such a stupid manner, then I hope people mock me. I'll deserve it.

But on that note, I suggest you take a look here.
2002-09-06 03:46:01 AM  
i agree with hurtcow, funny how the more intelligent people tend to love monty python. "even 'special' people rarely laugh" well of course not, they dont understand it.
2002-09-06 03:46:58 AM  
Doesn't matter how old the kid is (up to a certain point, anyways...), a gun is still a gun, and guns kill.

The officer that shot the kid must be going through hell right now, because its almost guaranteed no matter the circumstances you'll have people rallying to support the "poor kid" who was "unjustly" shot by the cop. Not to mention the emotional trauma of being forced to kill a child in the first place.
2002-09-06 03:47:53 AM  
Darwin Award Nominee?
2002-09-06 03:47:59 AM  
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Won't somebody please think of the children?!?
2002-09-06 03:50:33 AM  

pollo did you know this kid?

You've been here long enough to know what to expect.

I'm sorry he made a bad choice. I'm sorry he is dead

Really man, what do you expect here? Sympathy? He made a really bad decision.
2002-09-06 03:55:15 AM  
sweater girl, some people just care more about complete strangers than others. its just how it is. i cant help but think about the awful state of that kids mind before he died, just as i cant help to think about whats going through the cops head right now. its really quite depressing.
2002-09-06 04:01:31 AM  
I'm sorry if I'm coming off a little harsh about this particular subject, for some reason it really just rubbed me the wrong way. Its just the fact that he was 14, and I feel this was, though unavoidable, very tragic. I'm not saying everyone should start sending flowers or anything, I just think that at 14 you still have yet to really experience life, therefore you don't fully comprehend the consequences of your actions. I'm sure this kid knew that pointing a gun at people, real or not, is wrong; but do you think that when he pointed that gun at the cop he was thinking "gee... I hope he shoots me, I want to die." And if so, do you think that he really is old enough to comprehend the choice hes making to die?
2002-09-06 04:01:55 AM  
I had a neighbor back in Ga who was the cop in some big child-shooting case in DC where the kid had pointed a cap gun at him in the dark and said "you're dead, cop". He shot the kid. The family's outraged. He did what he needed to do to protect himself not knowing it wasn't a real gun. The press swooped in and now he's a murderer. He re-lives it every day and dreams about it every night. God damn liberal media.

Yes, guns kill. Mine will too, if you threaten me or my child.
2002-09-06 04:06:53 AM  
No, tragic is when a clown dies.

Scratch that. That's pretty funny.

Actually, tragic is when an electrical fire wipes out an entire family that was sleeping. Tragic is when a couple of madmen crash jetliners into a building because "Allah" told them so. Tragic is not some kid, who's old enough to know right from wrong, points a gun (even if it is a BB gun) at a cop and is blown away.

That's just stupid.
2002-09-06 04:07:32 AM  
And BTW, my child's 14. Lives with me full-time. 14-year olds do stupid stuff, but I couldn't imagine the lack of parenting that would cause a kid to point a toy gun at a cop. That's just stupid. Not being callous, but duh.
2002-09-06 04:15:52 AM  
adults tend to underestimate children way too much. at 14, someone is fully aware of what death is. and more than likely, knows full well that pointing a gun at a cop eqauls death. but if your the loner, and everyday is a living hell because no one accepts you, and you are constintly ridiculed, no matter how loving the parents may be, you are going to hate life. i know, ive been there. but i am also a religious man, and that kept me from killing myself as a kid. thankfully too. things are infinitly better, and i hate to think of what all i would have missed out on. its just ashame this kid had no hope at all
2002-09-06 04:16:32 AM  
I hope the "STUPID" tag is referring to the kid, and not the police.

You have to be a special kind of stupid to point a gun, ANY gun, at police officers.
2002-09-06 04:40:36 AM  
The gene pool cleanses itself over time. In a tribal society, the story of the person who did something that got them whacked would be spread far and wide, becoming embellished along the way so that the person did less and less to achieve a greater and greater result.

Thus, we should not feel sorry for this child, nor should we mock his stupidity and ignorance. No my friends, we should sit here secure in knowing that uncle chuck is still with us with his bottle of chlorine and his scum scooper.

And shall we hope that the story of the kid that got popped by a cop for pointing a BB gun at him spreads far and wide so that it becomes common sense.

No wait, that already happened YEARS ago, which is why most toy guns have bright ass orange tips.
2002-09-06 04:40:43 AM  
Uh, Sweatergirl... let it go and go to bed. Don't take me wrong at all, I'm totally on your side, but don't give Pollo the satisfaction of continuing his argument.

It's not really anyone's fault that the kid died besides his own direct actions. I'm sure his parents and possibly even the community had something to do with this, but tragedies happen all of the time. This kid was disturbed, but he made a mistake which made him dead.

He's still stupid for having done it. And that is a fact.

Pollo, you couldn't have saved the kids life. And I'm sure if you were the cop, and you did your job well, you would have pulled that trigger too.
2002-09-06 04:44:22 AM  
You just don't go running around with a gun of ANY kind, whether it is real or fake. B.B. Guns look real enough.
On my Boobies, what I actually meant was I don't blame the cops for what happened.
2002-09-06 04:48:33 AM  
Here's my take, ,whether anyone cares or not, so snide remarks are uneeded.

If child >= 10 and owns anything resembling a gun and has the boss to point or take it out in front of a cop, expect to be dead. Children today in age who dont know by 10 that guns and cops dont mix unless it's the cops gun, then your future is a wasteland anyway. Appropriate tag would have been moron or dipshiat.
2002-09-06 04:53:38 AM  
You would think I would remember about the filter after close to 3 years.

DUH !!!!!
2002-09-06 04:54:39 AM  
Maybe the priests made the kid do it, with all their hypnopowers of predation?
2002-09-06 04:54:41 AM  
I'm not happy about it but it's entirely his own fault
2002-09-06 04:55:12 AM  
My god, are you people illiterate? Have you actually read any of my comments? I have said in every post I've made that I blame the cop for nothing, he did what he had to do. All I've said is that its pretty heartless & senseless to mock the death of a obviously disturbed child.

You people act like you have to make everything into an argument, If you could get your heads out of your asses for a second you would realize that for the most part I'm agreeing with you. I only disagree with the weak-minded few who feel they have to ridicule this kid even after he has died.

Silly me, I forgot for a second that here on fark people don't actually think before they type. They just try to pound out the wittiest response they can before someone else beats them to it.
2002-09-06 04:56:16 AM  
Wait - they "confronted him" and then he "suddenly spun around with a gun pointed at them"? So they "confronted" his back and he turned to see what the shouting was about. Way to give the kid a chance to drop his weapon...

And it happened right after they got a call about a kid with a BB gun. Give the cops a medal for intelligence - right before you toss them in pound-me-in-the-ass federal prison for manslaughter.
2002-09-06 05:00:11 AM  
good stuff, good times
2002-09-06 05:01:15 AM  
I took my kid out when he was 7 to show him what a real gun can do to a tuna can. He's treated them with respect ever since. He's dead on at 50 yards w/ a .22 but he doesn't touch it unless I'm around. Just like girls or alcohol or anything else, if you yell "It's bad" w/ no evidence or explanation, they're gonna get curious about what's the big deal. I gave him a shot of scotch when he was 10, he wants nothing to do with alcohol anymore. Just trying to figure out what to do about the girl thing...
2002-09-06 05:05:23 AM  
hey pollo, dont get too discurraged (yeah i cant spell) not everyone here reads your posts wrong, or mocks dead kids.
2002-09-06 05:05:42 AM  
isn't it funny that a couple of cops can kill a kid with a bb-gun that 'came to the church seeking help.' but a whole police force and swat team can stand outside of Columbine High and wait for the finale.
2002-09-06 05:08:21 AM  
woohoo hurtcow. its about time some people teach kids about guns at an early age. you will never hear of your son accidently shooting his best friend in the news. i say again, people underestimate kids. they are very intelligent, just ignorant. teach them and they will learn
2002-09-06 05:09:32 AM  
Sounds like a legit shoot to me. Approaching from the back is standard practice, since you don't want the suspect to know where you are to shoot you faster.
2002-09-06 05:28:32 AM  
you can hump in a church and get a ticket, but bring a bb-gun and...
2002-09-06 05:33:31 AM  
Wow, Bluefrogprice, it took almost two hours for somebody to post the required, but clueless, "The cops a bad bad man for shooting somebody who was pointing a gun at him" post.

Now pat yourself on the back, and get back to your "Mumia Abu-Jamal!" rally.
2002-09-06 05:37:53 AM  
Police had been called earlier by Montoya's mother, who told them she and her 3-year-old child had fled their home after Montoya pointed a BB gun at her and threatened her, Arbogast said.

About an hour later, police received a call from the church about a teenager with a gun. Arbogast said the officers did not know it was the same boy involved in the earlier threats.
2002-09-06 05:57:48 AM  
The officer that shot the kid must be going through hell right now
from the frequency which they do it, albq. cops don't seem to mind killing.

2002-09-06 06:30:39 AM  
Xoxotl : Actually it was the required "The cop's a bad bad man for apparently (and I admit that this is a guess based solely on the wording in the article) shooting a kid he knew to be holding a gun who turned around when ordered to do so".

Not to mention that the cops knew there was a kid running around with a BB gun:
- 1st call "Hey police, there's a teenager who threatened his mum with a BB gun running around in [neighbourhood]"
- 2nd call, 1 hour later "Hey police, there's a teenager threatening people with a gun in our church in [neighbourhood]"

Gee, I'm sure there's no way the cops could have put two and two together there... Cops aer smrat.
2002-09-06 07:26:00 AM  
yes the cops fooked up. BUT it's one less church person on the planet. Average Intelligence of the general population has risen due to this fact.
2002-09-06 07:31:14 AM  
Kudos to Pollo here, for being a rare voice of compassion in these pages. It's those little things that give one hope for humanity.
2002-09-06 07:33:48 AM  
Tragedy is when I cut my finger... Comedy is when you fall into an open manhole and die... - Mel Brooks
2002-09-06 08:36:26 AM  
2002-09-06 08:41:54 AM  
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Nice Troll
2002-09-06 08:47:44 AM  
Hey BlueFrogPrince. Were you there? Did you hear them say drop the gun and turnaround? Or did they just say turnaround? Did they have him surrounded? I'm just curious because you seem to have all the facts from an article that was probably rushed to get out and not investigated. Did the mother really tell them it was a BB-Gun or did the reporter put that in knowing "now" that it was a BB-Gun. Didn't sound like the Neighbors who he tried to rob knew. I'm not laying blame on anyone because, like all of you, I wasn't there and I refuse to take some half-ass reporter's word for it.
2002-09-06 09:06:55 AM  
"i pooped my pants", Arbogast said.
Arbogast said, Arbogast said, Arbogast said, Arbogast said, Arbogast said, Arbogast said, Arbogast said, Arbogast said.

redundant, redundant, redundant, redundant, redundant, redundant, redundant, redundant, redundant, redundant.

jeez... you'd think if they were going to quote someone, they would at LEAST have the foresight to find someone with a name that doesn't sound like a bowel problem.
2002-09-06 09:15:34 AM  
Police had been called earlier by Montoya's mother, who told them she and her 3-year-old child had fled their home after Montoya pointed a BB gun at her and threatened her, Arbogast said.

Officers went to the home, where neighbors told them Montoya had entered their homes, threatened them with a gun and left.

About an hour later, police received a call from the church about a teenager with a gun. Arbogast said the officers did not know it was the same boy involved in the earlier threats.

The cops farked up. The officers at the church should have known of the earlier incident. Doesn't say whether they were the same cops at the house, but if they weren't, their superiors should have put two and two together.

Without that earlier incident, I'd say, yes, cops were completely justified. With it, well, seems a like a fark up.
2002-09-06 09:28:03 AM  
Cops don't always have the time to hold committee meetings to get all possible info before they go into a potentially hazardous situation. Get over it- that is just how life is. You have to sometimes take irreversible action based on incomplete info. The most important fact is that this kid whirled around with a pistol-looking object in his hand. I hope cops shoot people who do that. They put their lives on the line every day, and to expect them to give a potential cop-killer a couple freebie shots is completely unreasonable.
2002-09-06 09:42:44 AM  
"His mindset is really unclear," Arbogast said. "We're trying to understand why he did what he did."

Glad I could clear that up for you. :-P
2002-09-06 10:01:12 AM  
Dougie_The_Timeclock : Come back when you learn to read - specially the part where I specifically said: "I admit that this is a guess based solely on the wording in the article".

And Spredilleto : Care to enlighten us as to the basis of your assumption that "This kid would have grown up and probably robbed, killed or raped countless people.", you retarded intolerant redneck four-eyed piece-of-shiat c0cksucking dogfarker?

BTW, if you want to insult someone, you should really learn English first.
2002-09-06 10:02:10 AM  
What would be really great is if the samurai sword welding dude came into the church, the call to the police was put out, the samurai came around to the kid, he took out his BB gun and the cops came in and shot them both.

Churches are dangerous places kids.
2002-09-06 10:26:19 AM  
*gives standing ovation to Akula*
2002-09-06 10:30:29 AM  
Spredilleto : Sorry for resorting to childish name-calling. Thanks for not continuing it.

I'd still say your assumption that he would grow up to be a menace is unjustly harsh - for all we know he could have turned out to be the next Shakespeare or something - but you're as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

I've got nothing against removing the dregs, but only where they're proven to be dregs. I'd really like to know more about the circumstances of the shooting. If the cops gave him a chance to drop the weapon and he didn't, fair play to them.

Like Dougie said, we weren't there so we don't know. I just find it strange that people are willing to congratulate the cops without knowing the circumstances, but not willing to question their actions. Why assume that cops are always right?
2002-09-06 10:31:19 AM  
That's the last thing spredbydildo's ever gonna see.
2002-09-06 10:33:13 AM  
THat and my smiling face. Inbred pig humper (I still have that purty picture of your she male wife).
2002-09-06 10:35:37 AM  
Someone should've gunned down your worthless ass when you were still a youngun just crawling out of the egg sack.
2002-09-06 10:43:53 AM  
If you're a cop, and you have a gun pointed directly at you, and you give someone a "chance to drop the weapon" you might as well be telling them "pull the trigger...I'll let you get a free shot in."

If it's not pointed directly at you, that's different...tell them to drop it & hope they listen. But if that weapon is pointed right at you...that cop had better be pulling his trigger as fast as he can to beat the gunman to it.
2002-09-06 10:46:08 AM  
Spredbydildo: the formative years. He spent his youth molesting chickens (and getting the bone form old grandpappy). Found true love at the trough (they both bit down on the same melon rind and the rest is history).

Unfortunatly, there was no cold steel barrel of hot police justice to cure this disease cobra-style. And now look at him. A golf playing pig farking walking talking ego driven ass clown. Maybe Atlanta's finest will cap him while he's going for his fat wallet. Some would call it murder. Me n' Spred call it preventative maintenance.
2002-09-06 10:46:51 AM  
Ahh, further proof that natural selection is still hard at work.
2002-09-06 10:49:06 AM  
Yeah, I'd like that cop to naturally select which barrel of my shotgun he'd like to eat first.
2002-09-06 10:51:53 AM  
Oh, sorry officer. I thought my 12 gauge double barrel was a BB gun. Excuse me for evening up the odds.

Better you than me, so sayeth Ice T.
2002-09-06 10:55:15 AM  
Trigger happy redneck pigs.
2002-09-06 11:02:29 AM  
Dear Bigbob,

If you are a troll, congratulations. If you are not a troll, start feeling sorry for yourself. No one wants to hear you make idle threats from behind an alias thousands of miles away.

Oh, I'm sorry, was that YOUR son they shot? If so, maybe you should teach your child not to point weapons at officers of the law.


Every Farker.
2002-09-06 11:08:12 AM  
Prayer/Bullets....I guess both will get the demon outta you.
2002-09-06 11:21:07 AM  
"possessed by demons and wanted prayer and needed help,"

prayer wasn't going to help this kid. a realization that demons aren't real and some brain chemicals, in the form of anti-depressants/anti-psychotics, would.

we have to feel pity for all those involved, the cop, the kid, and the parents. this kid was obviously screwed up in the head, and all the prayer in the world wasn't going to help him. it's good to know that the kid knew something was wrong with him, and he tried to get help. unfortunately, he should have gone to a doctor not a priest.
2002-09-06 11:59:56 AM  
stupid kid. that's what you get for going to church.
2002-09-06 12:19:51 PM  
When I was about 18, I had a BB gun that looked almost -exactly- like a Glock 19. One day - the very first time - I walked around with it outside after having been in a fight the day before, the police actually stopped me and asked me what was under my trenchcoat. (Dammit, I was trenchcoat before they were cool.)

I'm not a dumbass. I held my hands palms out, and said it was a BB gun. I didn't lie, I didn't give any shiat, and I only even -thought- about showing them the thing after they asked. They looked, told me it looked real, and let me keep it if I told them I'd never walk around with it again. No problems from me. I'm glad they let me keep it. No idea where it might be now though. I think I gave it to a friend who was dumb enough to get shot.
2002-09-06 12:54:36 PM  
i wonder if some fancy less-than-lethal weapon would have been more appropriate on the cops part. suicide by cop is becoming alot more common these days. and cops don't have to oblige by killing everyone who asks for it anymore.
2002-09-06 01:08:43 PM  
and we'll never know what this kid saw in his demon-possessed hallucinations.
2002-09-06 01:16:21 PM  
cool hand luke??
2002-09-06 01:25:33 PM  
Seems to me that the people who think others are being insensitive fail to remember that we are all entitled to our opinion. If you don't agree, then do it logically, calling one 'insensitive', hurling insults and disfiguring pics only makes YOU look childish, not your target. Adults can admit that each side has a valid point, children want their way only and fark you if you disagree. So for the kids, try a little maturity and you'll see better results.

As for the 'insensitive':Some feel 'play with fire, get burned and point a gun at a cop = deathwish' are the truth, which is a valid point. What, can one not have their own feelings and express them? For all those who are so 'concerned', if you were in a church and ANYONE with a gun came in, would you want the officer to ask if the gun was real? Once the kid heard the 'Drop the weapon!', he shoulda dropped it. He'd still be living and you still would've ignored him and gone on about your lives, just as we all do. But MENSA boy POINTS it at the cop, and got taken out in the process. As I said earlier, don't raise a weapon and unless you are going to use it.

He did something stupid, played with the gun, and got quickly ventilated.
2002-09-06 01:33:30 PM  

The less-lethal stuff is very exspensive, especially for large departments that have to equipment to many cops. By the time you add in the several hours of required training, that is a lot of $$$$. Less-lethal also has a LOT of limitations, particulary limited range. Plus, it takes quite a bit of time to get it on scene and in to position. If the officers were going to a call of a person with a gun inside an occupied church, they did not want to wait the extra time for less-lethal. If they waited too long, they could of ended up with another Columbine.
2002-09-06 02:01:04 PM  
Old Man Murray has a kick-ass strategy guide for SWAT 3. My favorite item:

Announcing to an armed suspect "Hands up! Police!" is foolish. You might as well point to your neck and shout, "You there! Shoot me!"
2002-09-06 02:19:37 PM  
Well, I think the woman who prayed with him might be at fault. Hell, if I was praying with a KID who has a BB gun, I'd of grabbed the gun and kicked him in the shin instead of saying his last rights with him. I mean shiat. "Ok kid, we're done praying now..go outside with your gun cause my husband called the cops." Think about it. Yes, the kid was troubled. Big farking deal. There's TONS of stories across the grand Ole U S of A where the cops are standing vigil with some madman with a AK47 for days, only to arrest him after negotiations. I highly doubt these cops just drove up and started walking up to the door without taking cover and assessing the situation. Get behind the car, wall, van, etc.... Assess and determine. I think the cops AND the kid were wrong. Typical behavior these days...it's all bullshiat. We can't blame the cops and we can't blame the kid..must be the farking music, video games, parenting, friends or drugs. Sad story...no reason to argue about it, it'll happen again in about 23.5 minutes.
2002-09-06 11:43:23 PM  
Darwin yes... but it sounds more like "Suicide By Cop". Either way; at least they got the little wanker before he breed more of his kind. Cleaning the gene pool should be done regularly.
2002-09-07 01:17:09 AM  
which brings us to gun control...
2002-09-07 03:05:11 AM  
"You will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee"
2002-09-07 04:43:08 PM  
Sad story... But can't help but not feel sorry for the kid. The real victim in this is the cop who had to shoot this misguided individual. I can't imagine three days off work to think about how just doing your job, and protecting yourself ends in the needless death of a child. I know this cop will be in my prayers.
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