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(Some Guy)   Stupid: New York is enforcing a new noise ordinance with a $350 fine. Stupider: Thousands of cops are on patrol for the new ordinance. Fark: First fine issued to an ice-cream truck driver   (nytimes.com) divider line
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388 clicks; posted to Politics » on 06 Jul 2007 at 11:43 PM (15 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2007-07-06 9:23:43 PM  
This deserves the Hero tag.

I wish I had a rocket launcher to blow up those goddamn noisewagons whenever they're in my neighborhood.
 
2007-07-06 9:34:51 PM  
Nerdlinger: I wish I had a rocket launcher to blow up those goddamn noisewagons whenever they're in my neighborhood.

You and me both brother. There oughtta be a law...
 
2007-07-06 9:58:17 PM  
Stupid: Incomplete headlines.

"Stupid: New York is enforcing a new noise ordinance with a $350."
 
2007-07-06 10:04:16 PM  
From my post in an earlier thread about this, because I'm too damn lazy to write it out again:

WTF? You're okay with idiots blaring their stereos in the street at 3am when you're trying to rest up for work the next day? Because that's primarily what the new regs are targeting. Why do they have the right to disturb my sleep and I don't have the right to a quiet night in bed? Because you say so? Are you for real? Since when should people have no responsibility whatsoever for their actions?

You honestly don't know what the hell you're talking about.

And as far as the Mr. Softee music goes, again: listen to it for an entire summer day and see if it doesn't drive you batshiat. And then realize that we have to hear that crap daily from the first warm spring day to the last warm autumn night. Damn right it should be minimized.

Seriously, the new noise regs are a good thing. There's a banquet hall down the block that is supposed to close at 1 am but frequently stays open past three. We get drunk-ass morans yelling up and down the block, pissing on my stoop, breaking bottles on the sidewalk, etc. I don't mind the place being there so much as I enjoy sleeping at night. As a result I'm hoping the new noise regs will get the cops to crack down on shiat like this.
 
2007-07-06 10:47:30 PM  
My local Mr. Softee guy played his damn song on full volume outside my building for 30 to 40 freaking minutes every day last year. Even my kids grew to hate him by the end of the summer.

Libertarians complaining about intrusive government have to realize that personal responsibility comes first and foremost. Once you intrude upon your neighbors right to live unmolested, you lose your right to free expression. Mr. Softee ruined it for himself (and the rest of us) by being a jackass.
 
2007-07-06 10:48:11 PM  
(And he can still play it, btw -- just not continuously.)
 
2007-07-06 10:49:59 PM  
Oh, and "thousands of cops"? 38 summonses in one day in a city the size of New York does not amount to "thousands of cops". It amounts to one.
 
2007-07-06 11:05:44 PM  
Cordwainer Deathbird:
Seriously, the new noise regs are a good thing. There's a banquet hall down the block that is supposed to close at 1 am but frequently stays open past three. We get drunk-ass morans yelling up and down the block, pissing on my stoop, breaking bottles on the sidewalk, etc. I don't mind the place being there so much as I enjoy sleeping at night. As a result I'm hoping the new noise regs will get the cops to crack down on shiat like this.


Hey, YOU wanted to live in the damn city. If you suddenly don't like it, MOVE.
 
2007-07-06 11:35:58 PM  
--I guess subby will have to pick-up his 12 year olds elsewhere--
 
2007-07-06 11:42:56 PM  
Stupid: New York is enforcing a new noise ordinance with a $350.

I assume that most English speaking people are ending that sentance with the word "fine" or something to that effect. On the other hand I don't want to assume, so it would be cool if the subby or the mods clarified.
 
2007-07-06 11:45:41 PM  
Another reason for people not to move into New York, or move out now while they still can.

Lots of rudeness, inflated prices, and assholes overall.
 
2007-07-06 11:50:46 PM  
spqr_ca: Stupid: New York is enforcing a new noise ordinance with a $350 prize package.

I assume that most English speaking people are ending that sentance with the word "fine" or something to that effect. On the other hand I don't want to assume, so it would be cool if the subby or the mods clarified.


There ya go. Finished it for ya.
 
2007-07-06 11:56:56 PM  
Weaver95: Hey, YOU wanted to live in the damn city. If you suddenly don't like it, MOVE.

This problem isn't just in the damn city. This crap bothered me when I lived in the suburbs. The difference is that in the suburbs, one idiot driving down the street blasting his car stereo at 3AM would annoy 200 people. Doing that in NYC is going to annoy 20,000.

There is no reason why a person can't play their car stereo at a reasonable volume that can't be heard four blocks away. There is no reason why the ice cream truck has to blare its jingle for 30 straight minutes outside my apartment.

People have freedom of speech, but can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater. People have the freedom to play whatever damn music they want in their cars, but should not be able to play it so loud my windows rattle across the street.
 
2007-07-06 11:57:29 PM  
Only $350?

Ice cream trucks deserve the death penalty.
 
2007-07-07 12:00:04 AM  
Nothin like good 'ol jew communism eh NYC?
 
2007-07-07 12:20:49 AM  
submitter: with a $350.

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2007-07-07 3:59:45 AM  
Same. fark Mister Softee and their obscenely loud, hideous noise trucks of horror. Worst part of the summer.
 
2007-07-07 5:10:58 AM  
It is all in your perspective. I worked third shift for several years. There are no such things as undisturbed afternoons.
/well aware this law would affect daytime noise as well
//too late for me
 
2007-07-07 7:28:23 AM  
Know how to stop noise in NYC? Nuke it. No noise.

/The 2 planes were a start.........
 
2007-07-07 7:48:08 AM  
Weaver95: Hey, YOU wanted to live in the damn city. If you suddenly don't like it, MOVE.

Suck my ass, c*nt-monkey.

So I have no right to a peaceful night's sleep because I live in the city? Excuse me? What kind of asinine bullshiat is that? How dare you tell me I have no rights in this country just because of where I live?

It never ceases to amaze me how so-called "libertarians" think personal rights and personal responsibility stop existing at their whim and will . . . usually when someone who lives somewhere they don't like trieds exercising them. F*ck you and your selective perception of liberty and the law. You're a f*cking moron.

Johnny Football Star: There is no reason why a person can't play their car stereo at a reasonable volume that can't be heard four blocks away. There is no reason why the ice cream truck has to blare its jingle for 30 straight minutes outside my apartment.

This. I don't mind anybody earning a living, but that does not exclude them from living by the rules of a responsible and polite society, in New York or anywhere else. If you are waking me up at three in the morning because you're a drunken asshole, or if your ice cream truck has been sitting outside my building for an hour or more blaring the goddamn music at top volume, then you're invading my privacy, you're disturbing my peace, and you are breaking the rules of a responsible and polite society. At that point I have recourse to the law.

If you prove you can't handle your responsibilities as an adult human, then the law/government, acting in the name of the people whose rights it is ostensibly there to secure, has the right to shut your dumb ass down. Period. That's the way the real world works. Anything else is insipid pie-in-the-sky utopianism, and deserves nothing but upbraiding and scorn.

slipperyrockdawg: There are no such things as undisturbed afternoons.

From everything I've heard they are concentrating on night enforcement, but they are exercising a good amount of daytime enforcement as well.
 
2007-07-07 8:22:40 AM  
Can they countersue New York City because it smells like urine?
 
2007-07-08 6:02:53 PM  
Weaver95: Hey, YOU wanted to live in the damn city. If you suddenly don't like it, MOVE.

So you suggest that people should always cut and run as opposed to confronting an issue? What happens if you do move, and a similar problem arises at the new location? Where is it not okay to have noise?


scottso: Libertarians complaining about intrusive government have to realize that personal responsibility comes first and foremost. Once you intrude upon your neighbors right to live unmolested, you lose your right to free expression.

You win.

A major issue with devout Libertarianism is that it fails to acknowledge the importance of rules that govern the intrusion of one person into another person's space. To them, all rules are inheritantly oppressive and suspect. That viewpoint is rather narrow and does not work well in our current society.

In a truly proper and polite society where we all lived in a dispersed nature, such a view could work because contact with each other would be minimal at best, and easily resolved when conflicts did occur.

However, in modern America, most people are selfish little pricks who don't give a rats ass about anything other than themselves. Or they're just mean and bitter and have a perverse enjoyment of making everyone around them just as miserable as they are.

So, with an attitude like that, you're bound to have conflicts. That's why we have laws like this. As long as it is consistently enforced and the punishment fits the crime, I have no problem with it.
 
2007-07-09 12:49:19 PM  
Dinjiin: However, in modern America, most people are selfish little pricks who don't give a rats ass about anything other than themselves.

Hence, the existence of Libertarianism.

Or they're just mean and bitter and have a perverse enjoyment of making everyone around them just as miserable as they are.

Hence, the existence of Bill O'Reilly. :)
 
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