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(Pioneer Press)   Today's Father of the Year nominee threatens to shoot Little League coach because his son wasn't seeing enough playing time. With jail photo goodness   ( divider line
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2007-06-26 05:04:00 PM  
Chaim Witz - sheesh - that, coming from a guy who probably is a skin diver for roto rooter - I guess I should have expected that level of cleverness. If you reread your Boobies you have six kids and can't spend enough time with any one of them to be a decent father to any of them - sounds like the definition of a fundie asshat to me.
2007-06-26 05:08:12 PM  

I bet you play the skin flute for the local gay men's orchestra. I'm the best father alive. All my kids will be president, all at the same time.
2007-06-26 05:09:45 PM  
looks like a relative of Bukket Walrus
2007-06-26 05:11:02 PM  
Chaim Witz

Wow. That's all. Just wow.
2007-06-26 05:11:07 PM  
I coached for ten years, spring, winter and fall, and the one thing that bothered me was the kids whose dads never came to their games; I'd ask them about it; they'd make a little sorry face and say "dad has more important things to do than watch me play baseball."

And here we have the typical fundie who can only make a stupid skin flute comment and thinks he might be a curmudgeon because he doesn't have the time to attend his childs game - you are indeed the dad of the year ahole.
2007-06-26 05:18:50 PM  
And I would also like to add that this asshat has time to spend four hours on fark but no time for his kids games.
2007-06-26 05:20:33 PM  
To throw a little support behind Chaim and add to ToxicMunkee's and safeinsane's story as well...

My dad never forced me to play any sport. He never told me what he did so as not to influence my decisions in what I wanted to do. When I came to him and said, "Hey dad, I kind of want to try this" - he would dedicate his time in getting me involved and would always make sure he drove me to practice/games/meets etc.

Only after I was involved in something did he tell me whether or not he had experience with it. Weirdly enough, I mirrored my dad almost perfectly in everything we did.

When middle/high school rolled around he never really came to my events. He was busy and I often got ride with friends or he would drop me off and then pick me up. This never bothered me because I was there because I loved the sport and for no other reason.

I got involved with track and field eventually and after showing a few years of interest my dad informed me that he too did track and actually was on the Russian Olympic team (how's that for dropping bombs on your kids :p). He had never told me this before and he never pressured me into doing anything. When I asked for his help, he gave it, when I told him to let me figure it out and do it my way, he backed off.

I ended up graduating ranked top 10 in the country in the hammer throw. I was a USA Track and Field Junior Olympic Regional champion, and ended up taking 4th at Nationals to end my high school career.

Now I'm at Stanford, the most dominant athletic school in the country, still doing track because I love it. My dad hasn't been to a meet yet and I have no problem with it, because I still call him after practice everyday and talk about what I did. He gives me his support and advice when I ask for it and doesn't impose anything else on me.

Let kids do it because they enjoy it. If they ask for your help, give it, but if they are well-adjusted enough to do it on their own, let them.

My dad is the best dad in the whole world and I wouldn't trade him for anything. I remember feeling left out when I was young and all the kids had their dad's at all their games yelling advice, etc but now I truly understand and appreciate what my dad did for me - he let me foster my own love for sport rather than force his love onto me.

Thanks Dad!
2007-06-26 05:22:58 PM  
Chaim Witz:

You know...statistically speaking, one of your kids "bats for the other team".
2007-06-26 05:24:28 PM  
How about the little league coach (6-8 yr old division) that sits the same two kids for two inning every game. Does it matter that 7 of the players on a team of 13 are realted to the coach? How about the coach that keeps the batting order the same all year so that the 7 relatives get more at bats? That the team gets to send 4 kids to the all star team and all 4 are his relatives even when they are not any better than the rest. Some of you people are coming down pretty hard on parents. All of the major blowouts I have seen at little league have been initiated by one of the coaches. Every single one. Like the coach that called an out every time a kids name came up in the batting order because the kid hurt himself in the 1st inning and had to leave the game. The RULE is batting out of order is an out. Or the coach that threatened me in front of my son because I had the ausacity to walk to close to his bench after the game was over....I didn't even know he was talking to me at first because I was talking to my kid. I guess I did say to my son that they lost the game because the other team scored more runs not because the other team cheated. Yes...hold those little league coaches up on high for their valor...they aren't getting anything out of it at all.
2007-06-26 05:35:04 PM  
Videsupra - that's very cool. My kids only played the sports they wanted to play; I played basketball for many years in Middle and HS - they tried it, didn't like it, I never said anything about playing it. Both of my sons wrestled in HS - I played basketball during the winter - they routinely said "Dad, it's better to wrestle and lose than play basketball and win." When my youngest decided in HS that football was no longer fun and quit - he heard nothing from me except "that's ok, whatever you want to do".

I was WAY more proud of their academic achievements (which were mighty) than their sports achievements (which were also mighty). On my advice, the oldest turned down a scholarship to play sports in college.

I suppose it's ok for a dad to not go to any of his kids games; just don't make it out like you're some kind of great dad because you aren't; you just don't care that much about your kid's sports which is ok, just don't make it out to be a good thing - its just a thing your thing, a fundie having too many kids to take care of thing.
2007-06-26 05:36:44 PM  
I coach baseball. In Belgium. I am father of the year.

Actually, it's a blast - none of the kids know anything, and certainly the parents neither. I am moulding my own clone army of middle infielders. Feel the power!!!

I had to explain the infield fly rule in Flemish last week. To ten-year-olds. I think I got through to them.

/not joking

2007-06-26 05:43:57 PM  
No wonder chaim witz gets along so well with his kids. He shares their childish mentalities.

//i no u r but wot am i
2007-06-26 05:45:11 PM  

Since when does having 6 kids make someone a fundie? Man your world must be small.
2007-06-26 06:05:24 PM  
de_Selby: I coach baseball. In Belgium.

You sir, are my farking hero.

/I'm headed to India in a couple months for work. Would like to start a team. Any advice?
2007-06-26 06:06:30 PM  
I think my old man and Chaim Witz should get together and go bowling sometime.
2007-06-26 06:07:37 PM  
2007-06-26 06:14:08 PM  
Coaching guide for fathers.

1. Play your kid in the primary key position for all innings.
2. Play assistant coaches kid in secondary key position for all innings.
3. call police when other parents anger level reaches violent.
2007-06-26 06:22:01 PM  

Don't forget:

4. Yell at other coach or at other teams parents "they are only x" at least twice a game. Then proceed to act like you are the manager of the real yankees, not the ones with the hardware store logo on the back.
2007-06-26 06:22:15 PM  
Not sure if danlpoon is still about but, if so, I suggest looking into Indian Princesses. Not sure if it's still around but that's what my dad did with me and my sister and it was a blast. It's dads and daughters doing all the crafts and activities that the girl scouts do (only time I've ever shot a rifle, actually) and going on camping trips. You get to pick Indian names (guess that might not be P.C. these days, though). I was Pink Cloud and dad was Totem Pole. My sister decided on Black Bull and yet my parents were still surprised when she came out of the closet. The camping trips were great. We'd stay in one of those cheap-o "cabins" with geriatric bunkbeds along all the walls. The girls all slept on the top bunks with their dads in the bunk below. The dads stayed up late, got drunk, smoked cigars and attempted to make Jiffy Pop over the fire (note: "attempted"). We all chastised them for smelling God-awful when they kissed us goodnight. Good times.
2007-06-26 06:27:03 PM  
Chaim Witz - I have a kid in travelling league baseball and I haven't seen any of his games yet. I try to make it to at least one of his games every year.

Maybe I'm just a curmudgeon, but I feel like I've usually got better things to do. If he wants to play baseball, great. Have fun. Just don't expect me to go to all your games.

That's okay, you'll get yours... AM Radio-style!!!

I've long since retired, my son's moved away
I called him up just the other day
I said, "I'd like to see you if you don't mind"
He said, "I'd love to, Dad, if I can find the time
You see my new job's a hassle and kids have the flu
But it's sure nice talking to you, Dad
It's been sure nice talking to you"

And as I hung up the phone it occurred to me
He'd grown up just like me
My boy was just like me
2007-06-26 06:41:43 PM  
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2007-06-26 06:53:02 PM  
Based on the anger that some of the farkers are displaying in this thread, it's probably just as well that they choose not to attend their child(ren)s games.
I'm a mom of a 7-year old who just played his first A-ball (post-T-ball) season. Day before the season started, my boy broke his arm and missed 75% of the season. We thought it was more important to teach him about teamwork and supporting each other, so he still went to every game, and rode the pine, though not by choice.
He ended up playing about eight games, and in his last at-bat for the season, he hit a double, and won the VIP award for sportsmanship from his coach.
It was a great opportunity to learn that there really is more to the game than winning and losing--and yes, I was the mom on the bleachers who was cheering her head off all season, and it wasn't even for my own son.
It was a great experience for all of us!
2007-06-26 07:45:37 PM  
What's a bouqet?
P.S. The pansies went to Campbell.
2007-06-26 08:04:06 PM  
"You're a big man! Big man!"
2007-06-26 08:05:42 PM  
Just dropping in for +1 to Chaim... while I may not be 100% on the same page w/you, let's say I'm 85%. You nailed some key shiat there. Well said.
2007-06-26 08:55:44 PM  
had to referee a couple of peewee basketball can hardly hold the ball in two hands...would never do that again...had a male parent yell at me from the stands about the kids being kids....told him to come down and ref the game...never heard from him again
2007-06-26 11:07:42 PM  
So I am new to this, is it ok to just post a one word phrase to describe this douchebag?
2007-06-27 12:52:25 AM  
technicolor-misfit: I've long since retired, my son's moved away
I called him up just the other day
I said, "I'd like to see you if you don't mind"
He said, "I'd love to, Dad, if I can find the time
You see my new job's a hassle and kids have the flu
But it's sure nice talking to you, Dad
It's been sure nice talking to you"

And as I hung up the phone it occurred to me
He'd grown up just like me
My boy was just like me

Dude, that song didn't mean shiat to me until I had a son of my own. Once I did damn, it almost makes me cry. That's heavy stuff right there and it makes me pause and think whenever I consider putting off anything for my son.

/works across the street from mattel corporate hq
//easy to put a smile on his face when i get home :)
2007-06-27 01:08:53 AM  
No neck doesn't realize that his kid will probably find baseball boring and give up anyways.
/I'm sure the kid would be a star under that kind of mentoring, heh.
2007-06-27 12:12:40 PM  
Very late, but.....I hate missing one of my kids events, whether it be sports, plays, or concerts. Am I inflating their ego by attending something they enjoy and work hard at? Hardly. I coach my kids in baseball and hockey, and love it. If I am not involved with the event, I attend and cheer/applaud their efforts. My kids will not be around forever, and I would hate to miss this part of their lives.
2007-06-27 02:20:06 PM  
After reading this article and all of the subsequent responses from you farkers, I think I'm going to call my dad and say hi. Take an interest something he's doing. I ain't even gonna tell him why. He was calm and reserved at all my games, giving good advice AFTER the game. Smart fella.
2007-06-28 12:48:29 PM  
Marktress, yes, indeed, Indian Guides/Princesses are still going strong through the YMCA. My daughter says she wants to stay in it until she's 18. Most girls in our group seem to drop out when they hit about Jr. HS age....
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