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(AFP)   Australia to ban porn and booze in aboriginal communities, rendering them the Least Fun Communities in the World right behind Utah   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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2007-06-21 10:05:59 AM  
The Feds should have done that with the aboriginals here a hundred years ago.
 
2007-06-21 10:36:26 AM  
Yeah, nice reparations there.
 
2007-06-21 10:42:04 AM  
The people in Utah may not party very often, but they're nice to all hell and always willing to lend a hand.

Which are my kind of people.

/Californian
 
2007-06-21 10:44:11 AM  
Why yes Mr. Howard we can't let the darkies have personal liberties I mean they just can't control themselves if we allow them to live like civilized folks.

/serious asshole you got there Oz, hope you like him
 
2007-06-21 11:19:30 AM  
Australia apparently has no reservations.

About taking such steps, I mean.
 
2007-06-21 11:34:59 AM  
This is very racist. They are basically saying "No booze or porn for you darkies cause you can't handle it like us whities can!" Let's see what would happen if they tried to ban booze and porn in Sydney. Would never happen.
 
2007-06-21 11:35:45 AM  
Wouldnt banning porn make the problem worse?
 
2007-06-21 11:36:19 AM  
you can't control yourselves, so we'll do it for you.
thanks,
your government
 
2007-06-21 11:37:06 AM  
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my solution is either recolonization or extermination

/ yeah i went there
 
2007-06-21 11:37:54 AM  
NuttierThanEver Apparently the darkies, as you put it, can't handle those personal liberties. Guess you would be fine with letting retards be abused by pedophiles since assigning a guardian for aforementioned retards would be infringing on their personal liberties.

/But it is sooo edgy to call Howard an asshole
 
2007-06-21 11:38:44 AM  
Alcohol is a very serious problem in the aboriginal communities I visited. I talked to several local teachers who all agreed that many aboriginal parents spend most of their time in an alcoholic stupor and do virtually nothing for their children. While I don't think that banning alcohol (and porn, WTF?) will necessarily solve the problem, it's nice to see some acknowledgment from the Australian government that this is a huge problem that needs to be dealt with.
 
2007-06-21 11:39:00 AM  
Considering the BS Austrailia pulled on its gun owners, I can't say I'm all that surprised...
 
2007-06-21 11:39:19 AM  
They can pry my alcohol and porn from my cold-dead, sticky hands.

/left knuckle children on this post
 
2007-06-21 11:44:07 AM  
the Children....what about the children? Won't somebody think of the chiiillldreeennn?
 
2007-06-21 11:44:18 AM  
The situation in remote Aboriginal communities is pitiful. Average life expectancy for a male is 59.
 
2007-06-21 11:44:23 AM  
Is Australia part of the UK?
 
2007-06-21 11:44:43 AM  
Yeah, let's just put 'em all in a zoo or museum.
 
2007-06-21 11:48:13 AM  
How can we sleep when our beds are burning - from all the alcohol and porn?
 
2007-06-21 11:48:55 AM  
boinkers and taking away liberties helps prevent this how? Now alcohol treatment centers, funding for parental education classes, promotion of businesses bringing jobs to aboriginal areas, that would be prevention.
 
2007-06-21 11:49:43 AM  
Next week: Canberra bans genitals. Plan is expected to reduce sexual crime an unprecidented 100%.
 
2007-06-21 11:50:12 AM  
Holy fark racist!

Somebody cue the Bags o' Gas like they have in northern quebec's aboriginal communities.

Boinkers HTML

Try not to be such an idiot. This is an asshole move if ever I've seen one. Banning alcohol to solve the rampant alcoholism problem is akin to giving a guy an aspirin for his brain tumor. Maybe try governing better and reducing the need for suicide-by-bottle of a whole community.
 
2007-06-21 11:50:22 AM  
The report to which Howard was responding found problems with child abuse in all of the Northern Territory Aboriginal communities it visited.

It also described widespread alcohol abuse and found children in the impoverished and often overcrowded camps were often exposed to pornography at a young age then imitated what they had seen with each other.

The report cited evidence that children as young as five had contracted sexually transmitted diseases and that girls were being prostituted for petrol, which is commonly sniffed by youths in Aboriginal communities.

It also detailed allegations non-indigenous paedophiles were targeting Aboriginal communities and said mine workers in some areas paid young indigenous girls for sex.


Can any Australians comment? Anyone seen the report?

/Facts first, conclusions later.
 
2007-06-21 11:50:39 AM  
First they came for the porn, and I said nothing.
Then they came for the grog, and I said nothing...
 
2007-06-21 11:50:40 AM  
Now, in addition to all the alcohol related problems, they get to deal with all the problems that prohibition brings. Hooray for bootlegging, organized crime, and turf wars!
 
2007-06-21 11:50:43 AM  
By the way, I've never had more fun than I had in Utah (after stocking up in Mesquite, NV, that is).

- Great mountains, great fishing, incredibly beautiful women, and some of the nicest people I've ever met.

Utah, it's what's for dinner.
 
2007-06-21 11:51:15 AM  
This story made me think of something I have not yet experienced in my 36 years: Aborigine porn. Excuse me folks, I've got work to do.
 
2007-06-21 11:52:31 AM  
A lot of Eskimo towns in Alaska ban booze because the locals can't handle it. At least they still have their porn.
 
2007-06-21 11:54:19 AM  
They would also need to ban all sorts of inhalants then also...if they wanted booze they would have to leave the community, kind of like dry counties in the US? (distances are probably much larger though)
 
2007-06-21 11:54:35 AM  
quadropheniac:The people in Utah may not party very often, but they're nice to all hell and always willing to lend a hand.

I suppose that not all cults are bad. I've known Mormons, and they invariably seem like nice people. Still, if you look into the basis of it (the whole "God lives on Kolob" thing, and a religion "translated" off of mysterious gold plates inside a hat), it's just a tad wacky.
 
2007-06-21 11:59:02 AM  
I've known Mormons, and they invariably seem like nice people.

When I worked at Boy Scout summer camps, we would have a Mormon week. I never knew there were that many Mormons in Maine, but their kids were invariably the most respectful, best behaved campers we'd have all season.

Vastly different from the 7 other weeks of rampaging rotten crotch droppings...
 
2007-06-21 11:59:28 AM  
Yeah, but a dude splitting the red sea, another dude turning water to wine, then rising from the dead, that's not wacky, Nooooo, it's FACT!!

\sick of the mormon bashing
\\Big Love is a great show
 
2007-06-21 12:03:15 PM  
Still, if you look into the basis of it (the whole "God lives on Kolob" thing, and a religion "translated" off of mysterious gold plates inside a hat), it's just a tad wacky.

Less wacky than practicing ritual cannibalism in praise of the zombie son of an invisible sky man?

/has no quarrels with Mormons
 
2007-06-21 12:03:29 PM  
On Stilts;Banning alcohol to solve the rampant alcoholism problem is akin to giving a guy an aspirin for his brain tumor.

I don't know -- it seems that if they don't have alcohol, then they can't be alcoholics. I guess they could brew their own, but that's a lot more difficult...
 
2007-06-21 12:04:38 PM  
I've been saying for years they should move Israel to Australia. Just give 'em a chunk of outback the same size as what they got now. So many problems solved...
 
2007-06-21 12:05:53 PM  
Went on a business trip to Salt Lake. Just try to find a gay bar in Utah, it's not happening.
 
2007-06-21 12:06:24 PM  
the abuse was fueled by endemic alcohol abuse, unemployment, poverty and other factors

Let me guess. Howards's going to ignore the unemployment and poverty, and simply ban the alcohol.

Nice job. For a Nazi.
 
2007-06-21 12:07:02 PM  
Hey, I submited this with a better headline, damn it!.
 
F42
2007-06-21 12:08:44 PM  
"Alcohol problem, quick! Ban the porn!"

WTF is wrong with these people?
 
2007-06-21 12:08:55 PM  
There's an undeniably paternalistic streak that still exists in Austs govts relationship to indigenous people.

But it's a 2 way street.

Some aboriginal communities are massively dependent on government help. If government gives them money and they have ready access to alcohol, then you will see large groups of people with nothing to do sitting in the park getting drunk all day long until the money runs out.

Given that health is such a major issue, you'd think rather than hand outs of cash, the govt would be better off giving hand outs of medical training and nursing schools. Putting a vocational slant on the hand outs that directly address the worst problem; the fact that in parts of Australia Aboriginal health is at 3rd world standards.
 
2007-06-21 12:11:53 PM  
poot42: The Feds should have done that with the aboriginals here a hundred years ago.

They did. Many reservations are still dry to this day.
 
2007-06-21 12:14:53 PM  
Socialism at its finest.
 
2007-06-21 12:16:22 PM  
CygnusDarius: Hey, I submited this with a better headline, damn it!.

You'll get over it.
 
2007-06-21 12:22:16 PM  
TelefunkenU47 ... I had the same idea, but I chose isolated parts of Canada, but Australia would probably be a better choice since it's a warmer climate.
 
2007-06-21 12:25:42 PM  
MWeather

I think he's talking about Canuckistan.
 
2007-06-21 12:27:25 PM  
look, you've got we Utahns all wrong. It's just our 'image' that's squeeky clean. In truth, Utah produces the most internet porn fiends around. Look at the stats!
 
2007-06-21 12:28:49 PM  
Keypusher,

Look, the description is accurate. Those things do happen. But those few facts also do not paint the whole picture.

It's impossible to disregard the concerns of some posters who see the move as paternalistic and racist. Alcohol is an issue amongst the whites, as is paedophilia. Similar measures would not be tolerated by white Australians. (Please don't drag guns into the debate as gun laws are nothing like this issue. Only those in the US see it as analagous. Many Australians don't.)

But it's also impossible to disregard the concerns of posters who are simply glad that it's being taken seriously.

What muddies the water is that many conventional programs to support and help wont work. Someone mentioned attracting business to the areas. This is impossible. To get your head around why, think about the continental US and how populated it is. Now, remove every person west of the Appalachians. Empty the continent. Now, stick a couple of million where LA is. And stick a few hundred thousand around about where Ohio is. Leave the rest of the place empty.

Now you are looking at something similar to Australia.

And the problems in most aboriginal communities occur somewhere else out there in the huge empty land (primarily desert). Conventional help and support systems don't work.

At issue, therefore, is how do we support these people? It does not appear as though this latest initiative will succeed in either winning the battle or winning any favor.
 
2007-06-21 12:32:59 PM  
clinto
look, you've got we Utahns all wrong. It's just our 'image' that's squeeky clean. In truth, Utah produces the most internet porn fiends around. Look at the stats!

Utah is the closest thing we have to Victorian England - mighty proper ideals with a vice-ridden underbelly.
 
2007-06-21 12:36:26 PM  
So where will people go now to get all their hot Aboriginal on Aboriginal porn???
 
2007-06-21 12:42:58 PM  
Once upon a time a man beat his wife, every day and in every way, until she was convinced she was a worthless piece of trash. And what did this newly formed 'trash' do? What all trash does, she sat around and did nothing. With the exception of collecting and ingesting other trash into herself, because filth attracts more filth. And in time the husband realized that his wife was destroying herself (although he ignores that he is still destroying her) and decides he must step and save her, because he had decided now that she is not trash, and he as a loving husband must save her from herself. So he takes away these harmful crutches she uses to standup at all, and pats himself on the back. Never does he realize it was he who broke her in the first place, and never does he think what will happen to a person when they have has their only support removed.
 
2007-06-21 12:43:03 PM  
Horay racism!!!!1
 
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