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(Some Guy)   Amnesty International sets up a poll asking people who has the worst human rights record: Darth Vader, the Hobgoblin or Dick Cheney. In related news, Star Wars is a movie and Spiderman is a comic book   (opinionjournal.com) divider line
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albo
2007-05-24 12:45:28 PM  
like khakis and a blue shirt, hatred of bush/cheney/rove is appropriate for most occasions, polls and pseudo-blog forums with an endowed squirrel as their mascot
 
newmoonpuppyhead
2007-05-24 1:10:59 PM  
It's funy because it's true.
 
newmoonpuppyhead
2007-05-24 1:11:56 PM  
it's funny, too.
 
albo
2007-05-24 1:16:59 PM  
you're my favorite lefty, nmph. don't you go changin'
;)
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-05-24 1:23:00 PM  
That looks more like the WSJ site to me.
 
Gosling
2007-05-24 1:23:51 PM  
Vader's pretty tough to beat. Cheney's pretty evil, but he didn't cause a civilized planet to not exist anymore.
 
HulkHands
2007-05-24 1:41:16 PM  
Gosling: but he didn't cause a civilized planet to not exist anymore.

Uh, Pluto? Hello?
 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark]
2007-05-24 1:42:03 PM  
Marcus Aurelius: That looks more like the WSJ site to me.

The actual Amnesty page is here:

http://www.amnestyusa.org/Annual_Report/Axis_of_Evil/page.do?id=1011362&n1=2&n 2=18

I think WSJ saved a screenshot in case someone at Amnesty caught some flack and yanked the poll.
 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark]
2007-05-24 1:46:51 PM  
MyNameIsNotMervGriffin: The actual Amnesty page is here:

Whoops! Just checked the link and it looks like someone already got smart at Amnesty. Here's the cached version from Google:

Google cache (pops)
 
Lord_Baull
2007-05-24 1:50:06 PM  
I voted for that fictional character Pol Pot.
 
Lord_Baull
2007-05-24 1:51:36 PM  
Vader's pretty tough to beat. Cheney's pretty evil, but he didn't cause a civilized planet to not exist anymore.

Point of order. That was Grand Moff Tarkin, not Vader.
 
Skleenar
2007-05-24 1:52:01 PM  
Oh. My. God.

AI is comparing Dick Cheney to Fictional characters!

That's exactly what the Nazis did!
 
grundes
2007-05-24 1:52:31 PM  
The page is called "Untitled document", which means they are not entitled to hold this poll and its results are not valid.
 
Poopspasm
2007-05-24 1:53:49 PM  
Am I the only one that thought this was equal parts stupid and funny?
 
bwesb
2007-05-24 1:55:45 PM  
Our mission is to help those wrongfully imprisoned but in the meantime - let's crack some jokes.
 
Mad Tea Party
2007-05-24 1:56:18 PM  
The Hobgoblin? Clearly Dr. Doom is the Dick Cheney analogue of the comic book universe.
 
Poopspasm
2007-05-24 1:58:27 PM  
Someone please do a photoshop of Dick Cheney as the Yellow Bastard from Sin City...

/Please?
 
HotWingConspiracy
2007-05-24 2:07:49 PM  
"The Hobgoblin? Clearly Dr. Doom is the Dick Cheney analogue of the comic book universe."

I'm going to have to go with Lex Luthor. He occasionally finds himself in positions of great power, but is really just a glorified thief/conman in the end.
 
KrispyKringle
2007-05-24 2:15:25 PM  
HulkHands: Gosling: but he didn't cause a civilized planet to not exist anymore.

Uh, Pluto? Hello?

Hahaha!
 
karl2025
2007-05-24 2:21:17 PM  
Dr. Doom and Lex Luthor are each great Dick Cheney analogues, but they're in different universes themselves so they can both be the analogue "of the comic book universe" since there are several.

As for Darth Vader, I dunno: Dick is evil enough, but
1) I can't see him reforming to the light side.
2) Vader is far too awesome.
3) I don't think Dick Cheney can lift another person over his head while being struck by force lightning bolts.
 
carmody
2007-05-24 2:21:58 PM  
...and Dick Cheney is an butthole. Is that all you got, subby?

I kid, I kid. Maybe.
 
cirby
2007-05-24 2:50:36 PM  
Well, you gotta be fair. If they wanted to compare Cheney to the non-fictional monsters of the last half-century, they'd have to wade through some pretty serious competition - all heavily supported (or excused) by the Leftists.

Hussein (styled himself after Stalin), Mao, Pol Pot, Mugabe, et bloody cetera...
 
I_C_Weener [TotalFark]
2007-05-24 2:50:38 PM  
Trick question. Dick Cheney is Darth Vader's alter ego. The Hobgoblin is just a bad plot device.
 
733fsc
2007-05-24 3:08:52 PM  
Anyone got a Ming the Merciless photo w/Dick Cheney face?
 
Rev. Skarekroe
2007-05-24 3:10:11 PM  
Hobgoblin and Vader are snappier dressers than Cheney.
 
saintstryfe [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-05-24 3:16:48 PM  
Wait, Hobgoblin, or Green Goblin? There's a significant and important difference there that needs to be clarified.
 
shpritz
2007-05-24 3:17:41 PM  
[image from hem.bredband.net too old to be available]

They got the Star Wars reference wrong.
 
Krymore
2007-05-24 3:38:03 PM  
Heh, I love people that think "leftist" is a word. Ever hear people say "rightist"? That's because anyone that would use it is intelligent enough to know that it's not a word. It really is too bad these people breed. All well, we all die eventually, so at least we won't be around to see these people outbreed the intelligent and eventually eradicate the human race in the pursuit of making a white king James english speaking jombie Jew descend from outer space on a floating space city shooting fireballs.
 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark]
2007-05-24 3:43:31 PM  
karl2025: 3) I don't think Dick Cheney can lift another person over his head while being struck by force lightning bolts.

With one hand, no less.

This thread has convinced me that Amnesty was successful in getting people to think seriously about the whole issue.
 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark]
2007-05-24 3:47:42 PM  
Krymore: Heh, I love people that think "leftist" is a word.

You better get someone to correct the dictionary:

left·ist
-noun
1.a member of the political Left or a person sympathetic to its views.
-adjective
2.of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or advocated by the political Left.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leftist

Ever hear people say "rightist"?

Yes:

right·ist
-adjective (sometimes initial capital letter)
1.of or pertaining to conservative or reactionary political views; noting or characteristic of the political Right.
-noun
2.a member or supporter of the political Right; conservative or reactionary.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rightist
 
Krymore
2007-05-24 3:56:30 PM  
MyNameIsNotMervGriffin

You seem to be under the impression that made up slang with a definition that a certain group of people attribute to it constitutes real English. I can say "suhdfisuohaoigoigy" means "anyone who isn't me, and is therefore destined to spend eternity drowning in chocolate pudding" and if I get enough people to repeat it, would that make it a real word?
 
bdub77
2007-05-24 3:56:48 PM  
So who was in 2nd place behind Dick Cheney?
 
galleech
2007-05-24 4:00:35 PM  
Dick Cheney, using his powers to break ties in the Senate to violate human rights everywhere.
 
Mugato [TotalFark]
2007-05-24 4:08:33 PM  
Darth Vader gets entirely too bum a rap. What did he ever really do? Slay some traitorous Jedi, shoot down some traitorous rebels and choke a few of his own people. Of course who was traitorous and who was righteous was defined by Palpatine, the real person you should be going after. And Tarkin blew up Alderaan, not Vader.
 
BraveNewCheneyWorld
2007-05-24 4:14:20 PM  
and if I get enough people to repeat it, would that make it a real word?

Yes. .. Or did you think the dictionary was written by God, and we are not allowed to update our language as civilization evolves? Where do you think new words come from? Someone makes up a word, it catches on.. and eventually rises through the ranks to become a real word!
 
Tyrone Slothrop [TotalFark]
2007-05-24 4:18:11 PM  
Krymore

You seem to be under the impression that made up slang with a definition that a certain group of people attribute to it constitutes real English. I can say "suhdfisuohaoigoigy" means "anyone who isn't me, and is therefore destined to spend eternity drowning in chocolate pudding" and if I get enough people to repeat it, would that make it a real word?

Actually, yes, it would be. How do you think new words get into the language?
 
Gulper Eel
2007-05-24 4:19:58 PM  
Wow, has Amnesty ever gone into the tank since the Biko days.
 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark]
2007-05-24 4:20:10 PM  
Krymore: You seem to be under the impression that made up slang with a definition that a certain group of people attribute to it constitutes real English.

Correct. How else do you suppose it got in the dictionary?

I can say "suhdfisuohaoigoigy" means "anyone who isn't me, and is therefore destined to spend eternity drowning in chocolate pudding" and if I get enough people to repeat it, would that make it a real word?

Correct again. You get a cookie!
 
Mugato [TotalFark]
2007-05-24 4:22:26 PM  
That guy's right. "leftist" is a stupid farking word. And just because it and "rightist" is in the dictionary doesn't make it otherwise.
 
meddlin' kid
2007-05-24 4:27:27 PM  
Krymore: if I get enough people to repeat it

i will not repeat your word.
 
Krymore
2007-05-24 4:39:43 PM  
meddlin' kid
i will not repeat your word.

=(
 
Hobodeluxe
2007-05-24 4:56:01 PM  
You know who else had a bad human rights record and connections to the Bush family?

[image from blogs.southflorida.com too old to be available]
 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark]
2007-05-24 4:57:32 PM  
Mugato: That guy's right. "leftist" is a stupid farking word.

"Leftist is a stupid word" /= "The word leftist does not exist."
 
mouser_inc
2007-05-24 5:09:31 PM  
Hobodeluxe: You know who else had a bad human rights record and connections to the Bush family?

ok please explain the connection to the Bush family, Not trying to flame or anything just wanting to know
 
Krymore
2007-05-24 5:28:39 PM  
mouser_inc

I know it's a bit of a stretch, but Bush is a member of Skull and Bones which dines on a set of Hitler's silverware in their crypt when they meet. That's all I've got direct links.
 
Phil Moskowitz
2007-05-24 5:37:56 PM  
mouser_inc

That's an old chestnut. I thought everyone had read the prescott bush fritz theissen crap already.
 
cirby
2007-05-24 5:38:41 PM  
That guy's right. "leftist" is a stupid farking word.

You do realize that you just complained about a real (and accurate) word in a sentence that has the word "farking" in it, right?
 
DayeOfJustice
2007-05-24 5:41:37 PM  
Shouldn't that be Darth Vader and The Green Goblin? And why aren't the x-men represented in this discussion of "which comic characters are Dick Cheney most like?" I'd say he's like Sinister, but I could be wrong.

/geek.
 
saintstryfe [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-05-24 6:21:24 PM  
Mugato: IF you want to be strict about it - Vader is Lawful Evil, in that he bends and uses the rules for his advantage. The Emperor, and possibly Tarkin as well, are Chaotic Evil, evil for the greater evil. Tarkin may also be Neutral Evil, evil for evil's sake.
 
No Such Agency
2007-05-24 6:46:12 PM  
Skwidd:
Wow. Why doesn't anyone take Amnesty International seriously?

Oh, gee, I dunno, because they're the world's foremost non-partisan human rights watchdog? Of course, "non-partisan" in this case means "they oppose abuses in the developed world, including the USA", so I guess that pisses some people off.
 
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