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(Breitbart.com) Video Fred Thompson responds to Michael Moore's debate challenge; invites him to check into a Cuban mental hospital. With cigar-chomping video goodness   (breitbart.tv) divider line
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Giblet
2007-05-15 2:52:11 PM  
Michael's cryin' now, I bet. He's THROUGH, man.

That is devastating. Devious. Witty.

No...wait...it was just stupid.

And this guy went to all the trouble to make a video and post it on teh 'tubes. Ffffeh.
 
Wise_Guy
2007-05-15 3:05:41 PM  
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.
 
Diogenes [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-05-15 3:23:29 PM  
WTF is a guy with lymphoma doing still smoking?
 
bimalc
2007-05-15 3:28:31 PM  
I know almost nothing about Mr. Thompson's policy positions, but I love him already.
 
Yesdog
2007-05-15 3:33:02 PM  
Thompson has the opportunity to refute Moore's allegations, and... nothing.

If someone called me a whore of the healthcare cartel, I'd want to defend myself. You know, if I was innocent.
 
TheGrayCat
2007-05-15 3:51:16 PM  
I actually thought better of Thompson. Yet, he does nothing to refute the claims, doesn't debate anything....and disregards his own health by smoking a cigar while suffering from Lymphoma.

I personally thought that Thompson could mop the floor with Moore (and I'm a liberal), but he doesn't.
 
Bill_Wick's_Friend
2007-05-15 3:58:44 PM  
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/528aylls.asp ?pg=2


We were alone. Thompson's work space looks just like what the home office of a successful politician or CEO should look like--though a little messier: a large desk, dark wood, leather furniture, lots of books and magazines and newspapers, a flat-screen TV, and box upon box of cigars--Montecristos from Havana


Hypocrite.
 
Diogenes [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-05-15 4:10:26 PM  
I hate to see that smug bastard Moore get points. And Thompson just handed them over.
 
SSP
2007-05-15 4:12:01 PM  
Fred Thompson isn't the only conservative in violation of Cuban trade restrictions...illegal cigars....

Limbaugh stayed at the Connaught Hotel, "and I got up on a Friday morning and walked across the street to Desmond Sautter's. And I was in heaven.'' The store didn't have any Hoyos, he says, "but they had some Punch Double Coronas and Partagas Lusitanias and Montecristo No. 2's. And I tried them. And I don't care what anybody says. I know it's a matter of taste, but as far as I'm concerned, this is something that not even the Communists have been able to screw up. It's the best tobacco in the world. There's no comparison. This is not to put anybody else's down. I've looked into it. I've studied it. It's like Bordeaux grapes. You can try growing them in California, but they're not the same. They've taken Cuban seed to Jamaica and Honduras, but it just isn't the same.''

Limbaugh loves sitting back and relaxing with a cigar. "Of course you have to save the Cuban cigars for special occasions. I like keeping things special in my life. So I do smoke some Honduran Punches now and then. And I still have a box of Ashtons and Partagas No. 10's. But this is a special occasion. Being interviewed by Cigar Aficionado is a special occasion. And this Ramon Allones Gigante is a hit. This is like five Cohiba Robustos rolled into one.''

It won't be long before we hear B-B-But Clinton....
 
VH-5150
2007-05-15 4:14:59 PM  
Wise_Guy: This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Bravo!
 
Bill_Wick's_Friend
2007-05-15 4:15:35 PM  
Paris Hilton: Drunk Driving :: American "conservatives": Cuban cigars

Laws are for the little people. Members of the upper castes are exempt.
 
RocketRod
2007-05-15 4:22:46 PM  
I never actually heard Thompson "invite" Moore to check in to a mental hospital.

As for me, I get my Cuban cigars via my Canadian friends.
 
bradkanus
2007-05-15 4:27:18 PM  
I'd say it's a slap in the face to moore... Thompson has a ready made video clip to played on the net and in the media. It's even timed to fit into media time slots. Moore's letter was posted by drudge and was full of errors and had several sentences that were actually missing entire words.

Besides, Moore wins because you whiney liberals think I should pay for health insurance for people to damn lazy to buy it themselves. If you and your kids don't have health insurance then you better not have a car. Kid's health is more important. Make that sacrafice and then I'll consider helping all those lazy tight asses get insurance.

/pays 200+ for insurance because it's important and it's not your responsibility to provide it to me.
 
Dancin_In_Anson
2007-05-15 4:32:58 PM  
Bill_Wick's_Friend: box upon box of cigars--Montecristos from Havana

Help me out here...What's the name of the movie that Thompson did about the "pitiful state" of the American cigar industry?
 
Bill_Wick's_Friend
2007-05-15 4:35:46 PM  
Help me out here...What's the name of the movie that Thompson did about the "pitiful state" of the American cigar industry?

[insert quizzical dog picture here]

huh?

You don't see hypocrisy in railing against Cuba while, at the same time, violating the law and purchasing Cuban goods?

Or did Thompson actually appear in a movie about cigars?

I think the point you were trying to make got sucked down into they abyss of your sarcasm and coyness...but I really am not sure.
 
Wise_Guy
2007-05-15 4:36:25 PM  
VH-5150: Bravo!

Thanks, but in all honesty, I post that in every Fred Thompson thread.
 
The Stealth Hippopotamus
2007-05-15 4:46:04 PM  
1) There are such things as pre-embargo cigars. They are very rare and very expensive, but they do exist.
2) Trying to equate the production of a propaganda piece with major blockbuster production backed by a Hollywood budget with the purchase of a couple of boxes of cigars is laughable.
3) Micheal Moore is fat
 
Bill_Wick's_Friend
2007-05-15 4:51:16 PM  
There are such things as pre-embargo cigars. They are very rare and very expensive, but they do exist.

...and if you believe that's what Rush and the good Senator are smoking I've got some land in Florida to sell you. Cheap.

Trying to equate the production of a propaganda piece with major blockbuster production backed by a Hollywood budget with the purchase of a couple of boxes of cigars is laughable.


Nobody has equated the production values or the budgets. I'm just saying that kvetching about how horrible Cuba is and kvetching that some "liberal" has misrepresented how horrible Cuba is while, at the same time, purchaising Cuba's most known commodity in violation of the law makes the kvetcher seem like a hypocritical douchebag.

Micheal Moore is fat

Indeed he is. He should take up tobacco smoking.
 
The Stealth Hippopotamus
2007-05-15 5:14:28 PM  
Bill_Wick's_Friend:
Nobody has equated the production values or the budgets. I'm just saying that kvetching about how horrible Cuba is and kvetching that some "liberal" has misrepresented how horrible Cuba is while, at the same time, purchaising Cuba's most known commodity in violation of the law makes the kvetcher seem like a hypocritical douchebag.

Ok, maybe there is a misunderstanding between us. I am not trying to compare how much money is being funneled to Castro by the two parties. That is an interesting question but not one that I had thought of. It would be nice to know what Moore had to do to get to film in Cuba, and how much he spent while he was there.
My point is this, no one is saying what Moore is doing is right or wrong. They are just saying that because Fred Thompson has a box of Cigars on his desk that he does not have the right to comment of Moore. It's like a jaywalker pointing out a murder and the murderer tell the jaywalker to STFU & GBTW cause he is breaking the law too. Has everyone lost their perspective? Ok, how about this. Lets enforce the law, Fred can get a fine and Micheal can go to jail. How about that?
 
strathcona
2007-05-15 5:16:16 PM  
Limbaugh loves sitting back and relaxing with a cigar. "Of course you have to save the Cuban cigars for special occasions. I like keeping things special in my life.

Like teenage Dominican hookers, right?
 
Weaver95
2007-05-15 5:18:10 PM  
Thompson has the opportunity to refute Moore's allegations, and... nothing.

Moore doesnt' make allegations. He makes accusations (mostly false), insults your mother, farks you cat and THEN shouts at you if you ask him to kindly behave like a normal, civilized human being.
 
vernonFL
2007-05-15 5:19:52 PM  
I know some conservatives who don't support the Cuban embargo.

Its bullshiat. If you believe in free markets and democratization, then how could you support it?

Look at whats happened in China. We trade with them now, and their society is beginning to change for the better.
 
inTheJungle
2007-05-15 5:24:10 PM  
Awww, Fred's just showing that he's just a glorified windbag like all the other celebrity GAWPers. He's got the "lack of content" down; now, if he were just a little more forgetful, we could call him President Reagan.
 
Bill_Wick's_Friend
2007-05-15 5:28:12 PM  
My point is this, no one is saying what Moore is doing is right or wrong.

What Michael Moore did is probably illegal under US law but fits within the morality that Michael Moore has assigned himself. In MM's world Castro is not as bad as everyone in the USA believes, Cuba is a nice place and the Cuban political system is to be envied by all. As such, MM patronizing Cuban businesses and giving money/status to Cuba fits within his stated worldview.

What Fred Thompson did is probably illegal under US law and it doesn't fit within the morality that Fred Thompson has assigned himself. In Thompson's world, Cuba is a dictatorship that is hostile to America and whose very existence 90 miles from Florida has represented a threat to Americans for over 50 years. As such, his purchasing Cuban goods does NOT fit within his stated worldview.

See the difference?
 
Weaver95
2007-05-15 5:37:42 PM  
Look at whats happened in China. We trade with them now, and their society is beginning to change for the better.

Yeah, but China didn't steal any of our stuff. Castro did - there were a LOT of US investments in cuba when he took over.

Ok, granted - much of it was mafia money, but still....

Also, China lets us built cheap factories, pollute like crazy and use/abuse their labor force as much as we'd like. Castro probably wouldn't let us pollute his island and he doesn't have as large a labor pool to exploit.
 
The Stealth Hippopotamus
2007-05-15 5:58:58 PM  
Bill_Wick's_Friend See the difference?

What MM did is definitely wrong, how he feels about it does not matter. He is going down there for the purposes of helping a communist dictator. Or maybe he is just trying to take a dig a America and does not care if he help Castro by doing it. Either way travel to Cuba is illegal.

What Fred did was wrong also. How it fits into his ideas on freetrade not withstanding he is still wrong. Buying a couple of boxes of Cubans may keep Castro in power for about 2 seconds. Too bad JFK started the embargo. If any other President had done it it would have been lifted by now.

Mind you that Cuba makes most of their money by having people in America send money home to their families but a distant second is the fact that most Cuban tobacco is shipped to Jamaica to be rolled. Since it is rolled in Jamaica it is considered to be Jamaica and can be sold in America. However that is soon to change. Castro has seen the caliber of his tobacco crop decrease lately and their for the revenue he gets for the crop. So what does he do? He decides to end crop rotation and start planning all the fields! Anyone who knows anything about farming knows that this is a very bad idea for the long run.

If want a fine cigar try a Padron http://www.padron.com/ (pops)

All that being said, lets apply the law! A fine for Fred and jail time for Moore. Fair is fair
 
Bill_Wick's_Friend
2007-05-15 6:45:53 PM  
how he feels about it does not matter

In assessing the level of hypocrisy, one's stated personal feelings on a subject are entirely relevant.

When Rush Limbaugh takes illegal drugs he's a hypocrite because he has railed and ranted against those who use illegal drugs. When Tommy Chong takes illegal drugs he's not a hypocrite, even if the action itself is entirely identical to that of Rush's.

Since it is rolled in Jamaica it is considered to be Jamaica and can be sold in America

I have never heard of this. Cuban SEED gets exported, yes, but my understanding is that Cuban leaf never leaves the island except rolled into cigars. The ersatz-Cubans grown in Honduras or Mexico are inferior products to the real deal grown and rolled in Cuba.
 
RabidCanary
2007-05-15 6:58:16 PM  
He tol him tha he chould work in sanitation.
 
homelessdude
2007-05-15 6:59:41 PM  
I think this Thompson guy might get my vote if he runs....Its a toss up between him and Gravel.
 
FlashLV
2007-05-15 6:59:54 PM  
Wow, fark Rudy and Hillary, looks like I'll vote for Thompson if he runs.

Moore = pwned!
 
CtrlAltDelete
2007-05-15 7:01:06 PM  
I'm finding this difficult to care about.

It's like those "Re: Re: OMG ABORTION" video manifested flame-wars you see in the side bars on YouTube sometimes.

No one is saying anything really profound; nothing is accomplished; it's just a way for the community to brew and take sides; forming meaningless factions of Pro-Dipsh*t or Hooray-for-Asshole.

It means nothing.
 
moops
2007-05-15 7:01:15 PM  
Let's pray Fred gets oral cancer to accompany his incurable lymphoma.

He's just another conservative hypocrite.
 
FlashLV
2007-05-15 7:02:13 PM  
Bill_Wick's_Friend

Hypocrite.

Where's your corroberating evidence that the cigars are in fact from havana?
 
boomaze
2007-05-15 7:02:51 PM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus



That entire post was incredibly retarded. This, however, is the peak of hilarity...
If any other President had done it it would have been lifted by now.


I LOL'd
 
Lee451
2007-05-15 7:03:07 PM  
I didn't realize so many Farkers (and their moms) fellatiated Michael Moore. But I am not surprised.

/Fred Thompson For President!
 
FlashLV
2007-05-15 7:03:12 PM  
I love how these liberals are all bent out of shape for cigars that may or may not have come from Cuba.
 
JabronieRamone
2007-05-15 7:03:13 PM  
Guys, Fred Thompson is an actor. He's portraying a presidential candidate. He quit the senate because it was too much work.
 
FlashLV
2007-05-15 7:04:13 PM  
moops

Let's pray Fred gets oral cancer to accompany his incurable lymphoma.

He's just another conservative hypocrite.

Moops, I was starting to respect you, you started to post things that didn't make you look so bad, but this post is pretty disgusting.
 
Wild Bluebonnet
2007-05-15 7:05:25 PM  
bimalc:

I know almost nothing about Mr. Thompson's policy positions, but I love him already.


Here in Texas he's quite the front runner, but always know who you are voting for and what their policies are.

It's your duty as an American to take this and every election very seriously.

And Vote!
 
boomaze
2007-05-15 7:05:35 PM  
Lee451


I didn't realize so many Farkers (and their moms) fellatiated Michael Moore. But I am not surprised.

Thinking Thompson is a hypocrit doesn't mean you necessarily even like Moore.
 
bigdogap
2007-05-15 7:06:04 PM  
I found this amusing. At least the guy has a sense of humor and a great radio voice. Not sure that's worth throwing my vote away on one of the two major parties.

I smoke Cubans on occasion when I visit Canada. They seem like no big deal, but what do I know?
 
FlashLV
2007-05-15 7:06:04 PM  
Bill_Wick's_Friend

...and if you believe that's what Rush and the good Senator are smoking I've got some land in Florida to sell you. Cheap.

And lets remember everyone, Bill_Wick's_Lover is always right. There is no other explanation but his.
 
drjekel_mrhyde
2007-05-15 7:06:11 PM  
Is this video old
 
boomaze
2007-05-15 7:06:53 PM  
Damn, moops, you just lost Flashes respect. Hope you'll be ok.
 
GregoryD
2007-05-15 7:07:30 PM  
bradkanus: Besides, Moore wins because you whiney liberals think I should pay for health insurance for people to damn lazy to buy it themselves.

Yeah because sick people should just instantly pray to jeebus should stfu and gbtw.

So if you are sick or mentally/physically unable to work how are you supposed to get a job good enough to get health insurance?

from the sky?

just because you happen to win the genetic lottery doesn't mean everyone else has.
 
WhyteRaven74
2007-05-15 7:07:47 PM  
moops: He's just another conservative hypocrite.

as opposed to Moore, who even liberals have torn up one side and down the other. Yeah that's so much better.
 
Bill_Wick's_Friend
2007-05-15 7:08:18 PM  
Where's your corroberating evidence that the cigars are in fact from havana?

I'm assuming the reporter knows how to read.

Maybe he doesn't. Maybe the reporter is lying. These could be fake Cubans. Thompson might have printed up the rings on his own printer. The reporter might be illiterate and unable to distinguish between a Philly Blunt and a Cohiba. Space aliens might have placed those boxes on the man's desk. Some sort of wormhole might have appeared which caused the reporter to see Fidel Castro's desk in the same exact spot that Thompson's desk was occupying.

In the world of the partisan apologist, I realize, anything is possible.
 
WayneBuckwheat
2007-05-15 7:08:23 PM  
hate to tell ALL OF YOU: moore & thompson are both actors, and pretty bad one's at that. Thompson never addressed his connections to health care & moore is a moron, by virtue of starting this dog fight. Both are anti-American & both should be in jail.

Oh, BTW,: 1) There are such things as pre-embargo cigars. They are very rare and very expensive, but they do exist.

Not since 1986. Thanks. A monticristo #2 NOW is either illegal, or really crispy.
 
AladinSane
2007-05-15 7:09:05 PM  
I love how these liberals are all bent out of shape for cigars that may or may not have come from Cuba.

Hiya Flash. Although you and I both know that most cigars marketed as "Cuban" are actually made in South America, it's probably not common knowledge among Liberals. After all, they don't smoke. ;)

Still, wouldn't you agree that the embargo against Cuba is really, really stupid? It's a hold-over from the 1960's, for heaven's sake. I can't begin to imagine why it's still in place. Seems like some sort of juvenile payback for the Bay of Pigs.
 
Lee Harvey Osmond
2007-05-15 7:09:11 PM  
Thompson ROCKS!

Michael Moore is just an angry turd.
 
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