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(Independent)   Children at risk from "electronic smog" generated by Wi-Fi use. Just think, the next time you are downloading porn the signal may be killing your family, you perv   (news.independent.co.uk) divider line
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SpeshilEdjukashin
2007-04-21 11:49:03 PM  
Thank you Captain Obvious...

WiFi, BlueTooth, new cell/cordless phones, etc - all utilize the same, or close to the same radio frequencies that a microwave oven cooks potatoes with... just at a lower power level.

/WHAT DID YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN?!
 
Moonbat
2007-04-21 11:52:10 PM  
Oh no, not this shiat again.

"Look out fo dat sunshine, chidrun, that's radiation!"

// It is, too.
 
JPJ007
2007-04-21 11:55:30 PM  
Moonbat: "Look out fo dat sunshine, chidrun, that's radiation!"

Bingo.
 
betasp
2007-04-21 11:58:00 PM  
Just think, the next time you are downloading porn the signal may be killing your family, you perv

...and a new cliche is born.
 
GriffinHousePuppet
2007-04-21 11:58:39 PM  
I'll pray for Omarion every time time I download teh pr0n over the wireless intertubes
 
Paranoia-'
2007-04-21 11:58:55 PM  
I hate electronic smog as much as I hate the real smog. And I hate the real smog.
 
JohnnyontheSpot
2007-04-21 11:59:41 PM  
I've done worse to get an erection.

/window seat, first class all the way!
 
RadioactiveApe
2007-04-22 12:00:34 AM  
The only thing worse than electronic smog is electric gonorrhea a.k.a. the noisy killer
 
Suflig
2007-04-22 12:02:21 AM  
What about electric substations where if you get close enough you can taste and smell the air? We suspect that sort of stuff is dangerous.
 
Twigz221
2007-04-22 12:03:39 AM  
FTA: Wi-Fi - described by the Department of Education and Skills as a "magical" system that means computers do not have to be connected to telephone lines

Oh noes! It's MAGIC!

Thank you for proving you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
mysteriousgreeneyes86
2007-04-22 12:04:05 AM  
hahaha

DALE: They subpoenaed my records. That's the first step. The second step will be to kidnap everyone I've ever known and erase their memories. The third step will be to kill me!
HANK: Dale, they're suing you, they're not going to kill you.
DALE: Wake up, Hank! These people kill 400,000 of their own satisfied customers every year!
 
TJourney2
2007-04-22 12:04:40 AM  
FTFA - Wi-Fi - described by the Department of Education and Skills as a "magical" system that means computers do not have to be connected to telephone lines - is rapidly being taken up in schools

the intertubes have Magical Properties?

Holy Cow Urine! I thought they were just not a big truck!
 
idsfa
2007-04-22 12:04:56 AM  
[image from farm1.static.flickr.com too old to be available]

/HINT: Microwave power is 500 Watts
/ Bluetooth/WiFi power is a few to a few hundred milliwatts
/ That factor of a thousand in power makes a slight difference
 
skinink [OhFark]
2007-04-22 12:05:32 AM  
Because the cellphones won't kill the little brats first.


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Bob Down
2007-04-22 12:05:41 AM  
Your family, your kittens... now all we need is a link to dog deaths
 
The Damned
2007-04-22 12:07:19 AM  
Wait... so my Wii and DS are dangerous?

/call the Sony Defense Force!
 
Bob Down
2007-04-22 12:07:51 AM  
Hint: The microwave is on for a few seconds to a few minutes. Wifi, bluetooth, cordless telephones are on 24 hrs a day
 
HempHead
2007-04-22 12:08:04 AM  
They just need to get demself one of dem dare lectronic smog busters:

[image from gaialifeworks.com too old to be available]
 
neilbradley
2007-04-22 12:08:31 AM  
This is all total BS.

If this is really a problem, then why has no one started freaking out or having "symptoms" from 2.4Ghz wireless phones? They've been in the market place for quite some time.
 
cokedupjesus
2007-04-22 12:09:24 AM  
Electric Smog is the new name of my band!

Give our demo tape to your friends and feel hip!
 
canusa
2007-04-22 12:10:02 AM  
If someone doesn't start thinking bout the GD children, and I mean pronto, we're going to take them all away. Then see how happy you are, Mr wireless smarty pants.
 
LordSpectre
2007-04-22 12:10:11 AM  
DNRTFA, but what do they propose we do, drop wireless tech altogether and go back everything being wired? Luddites.
 
Clold
2007-04-22 12:10:44 AM  
Big suprise. Science doesn't exist in England.

Prince Charles is a big supporter of using magic instead of medicine to heal people.
 
WhyteRaven74
2007-04-22 12:11:05 AM  
Bob Down: Hint: The microwave is on for a few seconds to a few minutes. Wifi, bluetooth, cordless telephones are on 24 hrs a day

big fact, below a certain power level microwaves lack the punch to do anything. What's the output on bluetooth? What small fraction of a watt?
 
Vosh
2007-04-22 12:11:05 AM  
This is a problem that won't be addressed seriously until it cuts into insurance company revenue, as illness and deaths from cigarette smoking.
 
LordSpectre
2007-04-22 12:12:34 AM  
2007-04-22 12:10:02 AM canusa

If someone doesn't start thinking bout the GD children, and I mean pronto, we're going to take them all away. Then see how happy you are, Mr wireless smarty pants.


You say that as if it were a bad thing if we were to have a few less little monsters running around, I for one think we would be much better off.
 
Ambiturnal
2007-04-22 12:12:46 AM  
I store all my porn where the sun don't shine. I'm doing it for the children.
 
chemical_angel
2007-04-22 12:12:54 AM  
subby you had me at electronic snog ...
 
Mr_Smartypants
2007-04-22 12:13:03 AM  
WiFi, BlueTooth, new cell/cordless phones, etc - all utilize the same, or close to the same radio frequencies that a microwave oven cooks potatoes with... just at a lower power level.

/WHAT DID YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN?!

Uh, things would get a little warmer?
 
RandomJackass
2007-04-22 12:13:29 AM  
I thought April Fools was only one day out of the year...
 
mcreadyblue
2007-04-22 12:13:57 AM  
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WhyteRaven74
2007-04-22 12:14:00 AM  
This reminsd me of the BS about EM around high tension wires. Sure it's there, but the earth's EM field is orders of magnitude stronger. If the EM field from high tension wires was lethal, humans wouldn't be alive today since the Earth would've killed us all long ago.

Oh also microwave ovens work by striking water molecules primarily, that's why things with very low water content can be a biatch to microwave and can require specialized packaging eg popcorn
 
idsfa
2007-04-22 12:15:15 AM  
Continuous exposure to flashlight == no effect

A minute's exposure to arc lamp == blindness

Time means nothing compared to power, moran
 
Wert789
2007-04-22 12:17:51 AM  
If you expose yourself to 450 degree heat, you will be burned in seconds, therefore if you expose yourself to 70 degree heat, you will burn yourself in a couple of hours.

Do I have the logic correct?
 
idsfa
2007-04-22 12:18:20 AM  
Oh, and BTW, that's only a factor of 100 power difference
 
Moonbat
2007-04-22 12:18:42 AM  
The same is true of.... iight. Too much is dangerous. The wI-fi is about as dangerous as a night light.

Suflig

What about electric substations where if you get close enough you can taste and smell the air? We suspect that sort of stuff is dangerous.

Completely different phenomenon. Has nothing whatever to do with microwave energy.
 
Mr_Smartypants
2007-04-22 12:19:26 AM  
Everything lower than visible light is not ionizing radiation

i.e. does not cause genetic damage (cancer) like radioactive elements & UV.

If it does harm health, it's by some undiscovered mechanism.
 
bobdino
2007-04-22 12:20:21 AM  
Bob Down: Hint: The microwave is on for a few seconds to a few minutes. Wifi, bluetooth, cordless telephones are on 24 hrs a day

Hint: Microwave radiation is non-ionizing
 
Thray
2007-04-22 12:21:07 AM  
I figure my Wi-Fi exposure is more than made up for by my lack of exposure to the Sun.
 
Terrx
2007-04-22 12:22:08 AM  
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Clold
2007-04-22 12:22:21 AM  
Suflig
What about electric substations where if you get close enough you can taste and smell the air? We suspect that sort of stuff is dangerous.

That's ozone.
 
Hecs4def6
2007-04-22 12:22:37 AM  
The ignorance the people in the article display is astounding. I'd half expect them to be carrying pitchforks and torches.

This has been refuted so many times before.

I have the feeling one has to actively work at being this level of ignorant.
 
fragMasterFlash [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2007-04-22 12:23:07 AM  
[image from img222.imageshack.us too old to be available]

Meh. Pr0n may get me, but electronic smog never will...
 
DarthBrooks
2007-04-22 12:25:03 AM  
See, this is why we only use biodiesel routers at our house.
 
Thray
2007-04-22 12:25:27 AM  
Why would this selectively affect children, btw? ;-)
 
Camper_Bob
2007-04-22 12:25:37 AM  
Sigh. Not this shiat again.

[image from thegleam.com too old to be available]

(Click for full-size view)

Small green spikes at left: a WiFi access point located about six feet from the spectrum analyzer's antenna.

Large two spikes at right: 2.4 GHz RF leakage from a perfectly-ordinary microwave oven located two rooms away from the analyzer's antenna.

The difference? The microwave is leaking about 100,000 times as much RF energy as your WiFi access point is emitting in normal operation.

Tomorrow's lesson: The hidden dangers of 1-petahertz radiation! Is your household in the dark?
 
Matrix Flavored Wasabi
2007-04-22 12:26:15 AM  
Suflig: What about electric substations where if you get close enough you can taste and smell the air? We suspect that sort of stuff is dangerous.

That would be ozone, from the interaction of electricity with the air (you get the same near lightning strikes).

Electricity != RF radiation
 
nashBridges
2007-04-22 12:27:20 AM  
WhyteRaven74: Oh also microwave ovens work by striking water molecules primarily

Well, water or liquid of some sort, but they excite almost anything in the oven. It's a testament to American education that my own brother argued to me that a microwave oven cannot heat something without water in it. It took a three minute cook time of an empty ceramic coffee cup to prove him wrong.

He's a lawyer.

We need to kick up the science and math in the US a notch, I think.
 
Camper_Bob
2007-04-22 12:28:16 AM  
Hecs4def6 The ignorance the people in the article display is astounding. I'd half expect them to be carrying pitchforks and torches.

Agreed, it's just jaw-droppingly incredible. Stupid people will believe anything.
 
dbaggins
2007-04-22 12:28:22 AM  
Oh man, the stupid is so powerful in this article, I think it is literally dangerous to read it. I must have gotten a years fark-equivalent exposure in that one reading.
 
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