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(Mercury News)   Lots of thumbs down and harshed mellows over thieves stealing stickers that allow hybrid cars to use HOV lanes in California   (mercurynews.com) divider line
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2007-04-16 9:55:24 AM  
How much would someone pay for a stolen sticker?
"I would first go to church and talk to my minister, get dispensation, and then offer $145.88 for it,' said Don Schmidek of Monte Sereno. "But I would not be surprised that some people would offer $1,000 for such a privilege."


California is odd.
 
2007-04-16 10:51:03 AM  
thumb's
mellows
thieves
stickers
cars
lanes

One of these things is not like the others....
 
2007-04-16 10:52:14 AM  
Oh, and why the hell are they putting the stickers on the outside of the vehicle? Wouldn't inside the rear glass make more sense?
 
2007-04-16 2:20:20 PM  
ArcadianRefugee
Oh, and why the hell are they putting the stickers on the outside of the vehicle? Wouldn't inside the rear glass make more sense?

I was wondering that myself, especially after the officer quote: "We knew it was only a matter of time".
 
2007-04-16 4:50:09 PM  
And if hybrid vehicles get better fuel economy in city or traffic driving, what's the point?
 
2007-04-16 4:51:39 PM  
Do you think this trick will work on my '74 Cutlass?
 
2007-04-16 4:51:47 PM  
Dude... wait, what?
 
2007-04-16 4:52:35 PM  
I prefer marshed mallows, thanks.
 
2007-04-16 4:53:45 PM  
it's marsh mellons.
 
2007-04-16 4:54:47 PM  
Screw stickers inside the glass.

Why not just have the DMV issue a unique license plate?


And please, please don't try to conserve gas mileage in the car pool lane by keeping your speed down. I already go nuts when I see buses using the lane.
 
2007-04-16 4:54:58 PM  
You can put the sticky side on the front surface. Or you can put the sticky side on the back surface. It's a matter of, you know, writing the spec. When you send the project to the vendor who makes the stickers.
 
2007-04-16 4:56:16 PM  
Why steal them again? They cost $8.00 to get them legitimately. Saves me 35 minutes/day.
 
2007-04-16 4:58:11 PM  
Drivers don't have the option of where to mount those stickers so it's not a choice. It's the law.
 
2007-04-16 4:58:27 PM  
"This proposed acquisition raises serious...privacy concerns," said Brad Smith, Microsoft senior vice president and general counsel in an e-mail statement.

Ooooooh, so if Google buys DoubleClick, then it raises privacy concerns. But if Microsoft bought them, everything is peachy?
 
2007-04-16 4:58:46 PM  
highendmighty

Why steal them again? They cost $8.00 to get them legitimately. Saves me 35 minutes/day.



"The decals became more valuable after the state closed the door on hybrid-exemption stickers in January, stopping after 85,000 owners..."
 
2007-04-16 4:59:13 PM  
BTW - didn't rtfa til now; but I just got my sticker in February, so something is not right...
 
2007-04-16 4:59:40 PM  
People drive to work?? What a stupid idea. I mean, really. Sooner or later it's only going to cause problems, and you know it.
 
2007-04-16 4:59:40 PM  
Drivers don't have the option of where to mount those stickers so it's not a choice. It's the law.

You can put the sticky side on the front surface. Or you can put the sticky side on the back surface. It's a matter of, you know, writing the spec. When you draft the legislation.
 
2007-04-16 5:00:14 PM  
In other news...

California has HOV lanes...
 
2007-04-16 5:00:31 PM  
helix400: Ooooooh, so if Google buys DoubleClick, then it raises privacy concerns. But if Microsoft bought them, everything is peachy?

Only if they get more than 35 mpg. Google usually gets around 43, unless I'm searching in the country, then it's 47. Microsoft, on the other hand, is never good for more than 39.
 
2007-04-16 5:01:15 PM  
Don't condescend me, man.
 
2007-04-16 5:01:42 PM  
Doesn't really seem fair since there are non-hybrid cars that do better on the freeway.

Of course since they let mommies w/ crotch fruit in the HOV, why not hybrids?

Also, didn't the toyota Prious get like 35mpg overall as tested by consumer reports?
 
2007-04-16 5:03:08 PM  
In california, aren't they HIV lanes?
 
2007-04-16 5:04:24 PM  
2007-04-16 04:50:09 PM Pickerel


And if hybrid vehicles get better fuel economy in city or traffic driving, what's the point?


in·cen·tive
-noun 1. something that incites or tends to incite to action or greater effort, as a reward offered for increased productivity.

In this case Something = Sticker and Buying the Hybrid is the incited action.

We can further validate this by RTFA, as hybrids with the stickers still on them sell for a couple grand more.

Now, since you make the point about gas mileage, we know it's not that. Since the sticker allows one to get into the carpool lane, we can surmise that time is the incentive, not gas prices.

So, if people are willing to pay thousands extra for a hybrid with a sticker on it, and thieves are willing to steal said stickers, we can assume that commuting blows chunks regardless of the vehicle's fuel efficiency.

There's your answer.
 
2007-04-16 5:12:13 PM  
Non-hybrid car that does better on the freeway: Volkswagen TDI

/small diesel FTW
 
2007-04-16 5:13:20 PM  
crotch fruit!!!!

/ I LOL'd
 
2007-04-16 5:35:42 PM  
haha sweet faux hybrid, the black market has prevailed
 
2007-04-16 5:43:37 PM  
Harshed mellows? What country are you from submitter?

[image from img.photobucket.com too old to be available]
 
2007-04-16 5:45:43 PM  
We've got "clean fuel" plates here in Va. I guess that wont stop some stooge from stealing my plates.
/Hylander Hybrid 21.5 mpg
 
2007-04-16 5:54:09 PM  
TrimBandit: Also, didn't the toyota Prious get like 35mpg overall as tested by consumer reports?

I dunno about the Prius, but my Civic gets 42 in the city. When I drove to Cape Cod from Texas, I averaged 47.
 
2007-04-16 6:34:37 PM  
I suppose that the police are going to have to bone up on their IDs of what is or isn't a hybrid. A ford F150 or a Hummer with such a sticker should be an obvious tip off.

The stickers should have the adhesive on the front, so they can be affixed inside the windows.
 
2007-04-16 6:36:27 PM  
Pro Zack: In california, aren't they HIV lanes?

H to the izz-O...V to the izz-Ayyyyyyyyyyyy

HOVI Baby
 
2007-04-16 7:04:17 PM  
PiusesPriuses get low- to mid-40s in real-world driving in California, on California gas, which because of various processes results 10-15% less milage than in surrounding states. (My car went from 27 mpg freeway to 23 when I went from Arizona gas to California gas.)

Prius mileage is indeed roughly equivalent to non-hybrid cars, but those cars are either light-weight strippers without modern safety equipment (multiple airbags, body reinforcement, etc.), or they're diesels, which emit sulphur and carbon soot. So you can't really argue that they're not fuel-efficient relative to other gasoline-powered cars comparably equipped.

For example, I had a 1994 Civic hatchback that got from 37 - 45 MPG, but it had no air conditioning, no power steering, no sound deadening, and it was a manual transmission. Whereas a Prius comes with A/C, power everything, a pretty slick navigation system, four doors, and a pretty large cargo bay. If you haven't been in one, they're surprisingly roomy -- about the equivalent of a mid-sized car, NOT a compact.

/not a hybrid fan
//is a car nut
 
2007-04-16 11:51:46 PM  
Hrricne
21mpg is considered good?

My Focus gets [reportedly] 34mpg in city and ~44mpg on the hwy. Still a new car, but after ~220km I'm only down to half tank which is close to the 8.2L/100Km claimed by the dealer (and yes, I know sticker ratings != reality). Even still, 8.2L/100 is about 29mpg, and so far I've only really done in city driving, not a lot of hwy driving.

And my focus, while a small car, can still lug 3 friends around town with room in the trunk to spare for munchies, gaming stuff, etc...
 
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