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(Breitbart.com)   Day 1: Refuse to denounce Iran for kidnapping British soldiers because "we do not want to insert Congress into the Middle East." Day 2: Embark on a multi-city tour of the Middle East. Thanks for not inserting Congress anywhere, Nancy   (breitbart.com) divider line
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TheConvincingSavant
2007-04-02 3:53:12 PM  
Bu...Bu...But Clinton!
 
Persepolis
2007-04-02 3:53:30 PM  
Hmm, maybe we should let England take the lead on this one, and back THEM up this time?
 
Pelagius
2007-04-02 3:55:11 PM  
Submitter wants to insert his "middle east" into Nancy Pelosi.
 
voodoomurphy
2007-04-02 3:55:52 PM  
tandkquinn: I wonder what subby thought of the GOP Congressmen gallivanting around during the Clinton administration?

Or the fact that Republican Reps. Aderholt and Wolf are currently visiting Syria and Republican Rep. Hobson is with Pelosi on her Middle East tour.

But hey. McCain can walk down a street with 100 troops, 3 Black Hawks and a bullet proof vest and Subby doesn't have a word to say about that.
 
flaEsq
2007-04-02 3:57:08 PM  
Welcome to Wingnut Monday!
 
HotWingConspiracy
2007-04-02 4:01:08 PM  
"I believe it's important for us as Americans to show our solidarity with the Britons," he added in a phone interview Friday. "The British are our closest allies, and I think we have to stand next to them in a moment like this."

Which is exactly why we should keep our farking traps shut.
 
flavor of the month
2007-04-02 4:01:19 PM  
"I am very disappointed that the speaker chose not to act," said Rep. Charles Dent, R-Pa.

pissant republican politicians crying crocodile tears for their most despised class of people: soldiers.

the bush administration hasnt been very vocal on the subject. almost as if even they understand how counterproductive it is to insert heated rhetoric into the time sensitive ongoing negotiations between two other countries.
 
cltbuilder
2007-04-02 4:01:30 PM  
http://wegoted.com/News/more.asp?ID=2747

Quote:
The United States, however, is deliberately remaining low key about the situation because the British government has asked it to do so, senior U.S. officials tell CNN.

The officials said the British had asked the U.S. not to make harsh statements about the incident that would set up the incident as a U.S. versus Iran issue.

"They have asked us to keep the rhetoric down and not do anything that would jeopardize their efforts to get the sailors and marines released," one senior official said.
 
FlashLV
2007-04-02 4:03:08 PM  
"I am very disappointed that the speaker chose not to act," said Rep. Charles Dent, R-Pa.

Not surprised she didn't act.
 
the_geek
2007-04-02 4:04:47 PM  
My friend calls her Comrade Pelosi. It's funny. Did I mention I don't care about what she does?
 
Headso
2007-04-02 4:04:57 PM  
I just hope these prisoners are treated better than the perception of how we treat our prisoners. Would it start a war if some naked dogpile pictures of these guys surfaced?
 
Vaylon Kenadell
2007-04-02 4:05:06 PM  
Thread's over. FlashLV is here. Any chance of rational discussion is lost. By the way, FlashLV, how much do you get paid to post here?
 
cltbuilder
2007-04-02 4:07:33 PM  
Would it start a war if some naked dogpile pictures of these guys surfaced?



If I wait til the guys are released to fap to those pictures, will it still be wrong?
 
cltbuilder
2007-04-02 4:08:08 PM  
Vaylon Kenadell


Thread's over. FlashLV is here.

It's 4pm. Jr high students are just getting off the bus.
 
FlashLV
2007-04-02 4:11:39 PM  
Vaylon Kenadell

Thread's over. FlashLV is here. Any chance of rational discussion is lost. By the way, FlashLV, how much do you get paid to post here?

$35 an hour, but I'm salary.

And your posts added to the thread?
 
Chuck Wagon
2007-04-02 4:13:25 PM  
cltbuilder

http://wegoted.com/News/more.asp?ID=2747

Quote:
The United States, however, is deliberately remaining low key about the situation because the British government has asked it to do so, senior U.S. officials tell CNN.

The officials said the British had asked the U.S. not to make harsh statements about the incident that would set up the incident as a U.S. versus Iran issue.

"They have asked us to keep the rhetoric down and not do anything that would jeopardize their efforts to get the sailors and marines released," one senior official said.

The time for diplomacy has passed.
 
Hang On Voltaire
2007-04-02 4:14:39 PM  
HotWingConspiracy
Which is exactly why we should keep our farking traps shut.

Because it is part of the racist/touchy feely world we live in. We treat Muslims like they are children. "Don't say anything to upset them" type of thinking. It makes me want to vomit
 
logictwisted
2007-04-02 4:15:38 PM  
Headso

I just hope these prisoners are treated better than the perception of how we treat our prisoners. Would it start a war if some naked dogpile pictures of these guys surfaced?

I'm sure the civilian hostages from Ahmadinejad's last political endeavor would like to discus Iran's treatment of prisoners.

I wonder if his government punished him and his group in anyway?

I'm not saying our forces don't make huge mistakes, but don't absolve the Iranians just yet.
 
Vaylon Kenadell
2007-04-02 4:16:21 PM  
FlashLV: And your posts added to the thread?

Bought as much as yours do. It's just that I can't imagine anyone seriously believes and says the stupid things that you spout. So, I conclude that you're not in earnest.

1. You're a Fark mod trying to generate posts (and thus pageviews, ad views).
2. You get paid to post here, by whatever special interest group or political association.
3. Some other option.

Because no one can say things that are that idiotic and still know how to use a computer.
 
cltbuilder
2007-04-02 4:16:28 PM  
Hang on Voltaire....It's got nothing to do with the touchy feelieness of our world. It has everything to do with this being a British problem with British soldiers. Beyond saying we support our allies, there's not much else we should be doing.
 
Headso
2007-04-02 4:19:14 PM  
logictwisted: I wonder if his government punished him and his group in anyway?

I highly doubt it...
 
HotWingConspiracy
2007-04-02 4:19:24 PM  
"Because it is part of the racist/touchy feely world we live in. We treat Muslims like they are children. "Don't say anything to upset them" type of thinking. It makes me want to vomit"

I'm going to guess the British government is thinking more about getting their troops back, rather than the emotions of muslims. They probably don't want to have to sell them weapons through back channels like we did to make it happen.

I can agree with you to a certain extent, the cartoon riots made me pukey.
 
FlashLV
2007-04-02 4:20:46 PM  
Vaylon Kenadell

Why are you trying to take this thread off topic.

I expressed my opinion to the thread and it was 100% relevant, unlike your post.

2007-04-02 04:03:08 PM FlashLV
Not surprised she didn't act.

That's what I posted, 100% on topic.

Please stop threadshiatting.
 
Tatsuma
2007-04-02 4:21:37 PM  
We really should be sticking up for the brits, that's the least we could do.
 
Poopspasm
2007-04-02 4:21:59 PM  
Because it is part of the racist/touchy feely world we live in. We treat Muslims like they are children. "Don't say anything to upset them" type of thinking. It makes me want to vomit

Right. This whole thing is about our over-sensitivity. It's definitely not about getting 15 British sailors home safe.

Let me guess, you're still feeling some anti-Muslim edginess because several media outlets chose to show Chocolate Jesus...
 
Hang On Voltaire
2007-04-02 4:22:12 PM  
HotWingConspiracy
I'm going to guess the British government is thinking more about getting their troops back, rather than the emotions of muslims. They probably don't want to have to sell them weapons through back channels like we did to make it happen.
I can agree with you to a certain extent, the cartoon riots made me pukey.

You make my point exactly. People like North trying to bribe to get the hostages accomplished the exact opposite. People like Carter not acting more aggressively to get our hostages back made the situation worse.
 
Vaylon Kenadell
2007-04-02 4:22:48 PM  
FlashLV: Please stop threadshiatting.

If only you would take your own advice, threads would be 25% shorter!
 
Hang On Voltaire
2007-04-02 4:23:03 PM  
cltbuilder [TotalFark]
Hang on Voltaire....It's got nothing to do with the touchy feelieness of our world. It has everything to do with this being a British problem with British soldiers. Beyond saying we support our allies, there's not much else we should be doing.

I'm talking about the Brits too. This is not their finest hour.
 
Vaylon Kenadell
2007-04-02 4:23:50 PM  
Tatsuma: We really should be sticking up for the brits, that's the least we could do.

Damn straight! We need to hurry up and start that war with Iran you and other hard-line Jews have been hankering for.
 
Galloping Galoshes
2007-04-02 4:24:08 PM  
Tatsuma: We really should be sticking up for the brits, that's the least we could do.

Never let it be said we didn't do the least we could do.
 
Bf+
2007-04-02 4:26:25 PM  
Tatsuma: We really should be sticking up for the brits, that's the least we could do.

It could be argued that staying silent may be the best support.

/That goes for FlashLV too.
 
HotWingConspiracy
2007-04-02 4:29:49 PM  
"You make my point exactly. People like North trying to bribe to get the hostages accomplished the exact opposite. People like Carter not acting more aggressively to get our hostages back made the situation worse."

Rock and a hard place. Sometimes people just have you by the balls. That's when I start talking.

Anything short of all out war isn't going to get your people out of there (and that would likely be their death sentence), and that isn't a real option. There are always face-saving options for both parties.

The Brits have done it before, and we did it when the Chinese nabbed our spy plane. Anyhow, they are our friends and have asked us to stay quiet for now. I would do that for a friend and say "Call me when you need me."
 
d'art
2007-04-02 4:30:30 PM  
I'm not sure if you guys realize this, but this is a farking HOSTAGE SITUATION. It's not a political event like certain Repubs are trying to make it out to be. It would be totally irresponsible for the Speaker of the House, third in the line of presidential succession, to go on air denouncing the Iranian regime. The important thing right now is to get the troops back, not make political hay.

Unfortunately Repubs from Bush on down aren't getting that, and seem to be itching for a fight instead, because regime change worked so well last time.
 
cltbuilder
2007-04-02 4:32:07 PM  
Hang On Voltaire

I'm talking about the Brits too. This is not their finest hour.

I agree. I'd like to see them with some bigger balls, but it only makes them look weaker when we ride up on our horses and save the day. Or fark it all up even worse. Still, I doubt we know exactly what's going on in their bi-lateral talks.

btw: An American citizen, who they will not name, is reportedly missing in Iran. Of course, it's not at all related to the missing soldiers.
 
Persepolis
2007-04-02 4:32:59 PM  
cltbuilder: An American citizen, who they will not name, is reportedly missing in Iran.

Source?
 
KlumTheFark
2007-04-02 4:33:31 PM  
Tatsuma:We really should be sticking up for the brits, that's the least we could do.

O'rly

img.fark.net Dear George, STFU, Hugs and Kisess, Tony
 
cltbuilder
2007-04-02 4:33:44 PM  
NPR. It's been playing all day.
 
d'art
2007-04-02 4:34:32 PM  
I think that the British are remembering what happened during the Carter era fiasco, where Carter opened his big mouth and made political hay on air every chance he got. Either negotiate quietly behind the scenes, or write them off and blow up a battleship. Mouthing off on camera accomplishes nothing.
 
FlashLV
2007-04-02 4:34:39 PM  
I don't think the Iranians would react to anything our congress had to say anyways. So does her not saying anything matter?
 
cltbuilder
2007-04-02 4:35:23 PM  
Ok, former FBI agent missing in Iran.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17914692/
 
Persepolis
2007-04-02 4:38:01 PM  
cltbuilder: Ok, former FBI agent missing in Iran.

Wow, it looks like the story just hit the wire.
 
tallguywithglasseson
2007-04-02 4:40:37 PM  
Persepolis: Source?

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0243598820070402

or

http://news.google.com/news?q=american+citizen+iran&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls =org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=0in&um=1&sa=X&oi=news&ct=title

they don't pop
 
FlashLV
2007-04-02 4:43:39 PM  
tallguywithglasseson

FTA: "Private business"

CIA??
 
Aexia
2007-04-02 4:45:42 PM  
And Pelosi isn't going to Iran, unless the submitter thinks Syria and Israel are somewhere in Iran.... which wouldn't surprise me.
 
salty2
2007-04-02 4:45:58 PM  
Nancy make my head asplode.
 
the_gospel_of_thomas
2007-04-02 4:49:32 PM  
Aexia: And Pelosi isn't going to Iran,

she should.
 
Tokumei
2007-04-02 5:15:23 PM  
Why is it that those poor victimized GOP defenders shiat all over the rules of conduct with their ad-hominem attacks and threadjacks, yet are the first to hide behind Fark's rules of conduct when they realize can't take what they put out.
 
cirby
2007-04-02 5:28:30 PM  
It has everything to do with this being a British problem with British soldiers. Beyond saying we support our allies, there's not much else we should be doing.

Considering that one of the first demands that came out of Iran was for the release of the hundreds of Iranian prisoners we have from anti-terror operations in Iraq, that's a bit easier said than done.

Of course, since Iran's first mention of where they captured the Brits showed the same position the Brits claimed (miles inside Iraqi waters), it's hard to claim the Iranians are negotiating in good faith of any sort.
 
grytpype-thynne
2007-04-02 5:47:19 PM  
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
Scrotar
2007-04-02 5:55:27 PM  
I like denouncing things. It's my dream to one day become the head writer for our nation's Denouncer-in-Chief.
 
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