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(Wall Street Journal)   The "Frank Luntz May Go Democratic" trifecta is officially in play   (opinionjournal.com) divider line
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2007-01-23 9:14:03 AM  
Wow. An OpinionJournal article that didn't leave me gargling Lysol to get the taste of it out?

This was especially telling:

Then there is the dark side. Mr. Luntz describes the American people, on the whole, as ill-read, provincial, sullen and frightened. They are, he says, susceptible to mere rhetoric and responsive to arguably bogus appeals to values, no matter what the facts.


Not sure where the headline's premise came from, but I did like the author's warning not to forget about the integrity behind the flash of fancy wordsmithing.
 
2007-01-23 11:25:32 AM  
Luntz as in the celebrated stage Luntzes? They descended from a long-line of heavy metal troubadorz.
 
2007-01-23 11:41:53 AM  
Read up on Luntz, then consider this excerpt from former Bush staffer John DiIulio's letter to Esquire describing working in the Bush White House:

In eight months, I heard many, many staff discussions, but not three meaningful, substantive policy discussions. There were no actual policy white papers on domestic issues. There were, truth be told, only a couple of people in the West Wing who worried at all about policy substance and analysis, and they were even more overworked than the stereotypical, non-stop, 20-hour-a-day White House staff. Every modern presidency moves on the fly, but, on social policy and related issues, the lack of even basic policy knowledge, and the only casual interest in knowing more, was somewhat breathtaking -- discussions by fairly senior people who meant Medicaid but were talking Medicare; near-instant shifts from discussing any actual policy pros and cons to discussing political communications, media strategy, et cetera. Even quite junior staff would sometimes hear quite senior staff pooh-pooh any need to dig deeper for pertinent information on a given issue.

Better yet, read his whole letter. The article is here. Strongly recommended reading.

Frank Luntz has been very successful. I can understand his desire to step to the other side of the board and play chess with himself. Personally, I'd rather he didn't. The fundamental politics-over-policy approach of the sort of government that results from his tactics is to me the single most disturbing problem in this country today, far more than any single issue on the table.

Problem is, those tactics work so well because the American public can't be bothered to actually listen. "Boring," they say, "can you just give me a soundbite please?" I guess we do get the government we deserve.

Pfft. Now I'm depressed.
 
2007-01-23 11:58:23 AM  
OMG, it's an ivory tower intellectual!!!! We ain't gonna fall for no fancy words.
 
2007-01-23 12:14:25 PM  
If he's so smart, and so attuned to public perceptions....

...how come his toupee looks like that?
 
2007-01-23 12:24:17 PM  
If they want to consolidate their recent victories, Mr. Luntz's admirers on the left would do well to see in him the doer behind the cynic and self-marketer. Like focus groups and polling, dial testing is simply a way of listening. And leaders listening are part of responsive government. That's when words work best.

"Admirers on the left?" Don't they mean DemocRAT leaders of the DemocRAT party would do well to remember that language isn't that important, especially when used to diminish one's political opponents?

What a maroon.
 
2007-01-23 12:57:24 PM  
Shouldn't that be "Frank Luntz May Go Democrat"?
 
2007-01-23 1:19:13 PM  
Luntz is the Geobbels of Bush.

/not technically a godwin
 
2007-01-23 1:19:15 PM  
Mr. Luntz describes the American people, on the whole, as ill-read, provincial, sullen and frightened. They are, he says, susceptible to mere rhetoric and responsive to arguably bogus appeals to values, no matter what the facts.


Damn those elitist libtards!
 
2007-01-23 3:57:53 PM  
nogames2k4: Shouldn't that be "Frank Luntz May Go Democrat"?

I believe you're correct from a purely grammatical point of view, but I think the smitty was being snarky about the Democrat/Democratic annoyances that have been bandied about.
 
2007-01-23 6:56:27 PM  
(minus) -ic

"Frank Lutz may go Democrat"

/gotta get it right!
 
2007-01-23 6:57:08 PM  
Oh noes, I'm such a moran!
 
2007-01-23 8:31:25 PM  
from the farking wall street journal: Like focus groups and polling, dial testing is simply a way of listening. And leaders listening are part of responsive government. That's when words work best.

...and then we all laughed and laughed.
 
2007-01-23 8:42:44 PM  
Am I supposed to be concerned because some third grade flack (sorry, a "celebrity pollster", WETF that is) wants to jump on the Democratic bandwagon? That's like being concerned that a whore is moving to the other side of the street.

Luntz's book, like himself, is boring, bland and ineffective.
 
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