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(Some Kos)   Iraq was an Aeolian paradise before the war and Bush attacked because he was jealous   (dailykos.com) divider line
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793 clicks; posted to Politics » on 14 Nov 2006 at 5:04 PM (16 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2006-11-14 3:27:44 PM  
Iraq was a wind-blown paradise? Wha?
 
2006-11-14 3:33:29 PM  
Areola Paradise?
 
2006-11-14 3:34:11 PM  
As expected, the author actually is saying, "Let revolutionaries and human-rights workers in Iran and Iraq make progress at their own pace, rather than bombing them into oblivion for not getting there when we want them to."

I'm no fan of DailyKos, but I'm no fan of those who purposefully misread political posts, either.
 
2006-11-14 3:38:02 PM  
Egg, pressed garlic, olive oil, fresh ground black pepper, a little salt, lemon juice, rosemary, a pinch of dry mustard.

/aioli paradise
 
2006-11-14 3:47:16 PM  
Man, is it just me or does it feel kinda nippley in here ...?
 
2006-11-14 3:47:42 PM  
Maybe Kos will move to Iran now.
 
2006-11-14 4:00:21 PM  
AE! O! Let's GO!
 
2006-11-14 4:01:41 PM  
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"Hey. The only ass-kicking that's gonna be done around here is gonna be done by me."

 
2006-11-14 4:04:26 PM  
"Aoelian. Aleone. A-Alien"

/john amos rules
 
2006-11-14 4:29:00 PM  
I'd say Iraq was Mixolydian, if anything.
 
2006-11-14 5:11:16 PM  
Obviously a result of politicized intelligence. There will be no mixing of margarine and butter in paradise.
 
2006-11-14 5:22:22 PM  
I'm so happy I feel like break dancin'.


/curse you NikolaiFarkoff!
 
2006-11-14 5:22:53 PM  
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Fast Times In Tehran

Some actual pictures of Iran
 
2006-11-14 5:24:15 PM  
i liked the new middle east map. now that's a reason to go to war. heaven forbid countries should be divided on the basis of language, ethnicity, and religion.
 
2006-11-14 5:32:00 PM  
Bill_Wick's_Friend

Would that be a whole egg or just the yolk?
 
2006-11-14 5:34:07 PM  
See, here is the problem that faces the West. So many people just don't know what the economic and social situations are in the middle east. You ask some random person on the street, and the answer you will usually get is "those ragheads, living in mud huts, they ain't got nuthin", when that isn't the case. When their situation is one of desperation, that is something to be afraid of...but when it isn't, why shouldn't be poking our nose around.
 
2006-11-14 5:34:17 PM  
space_cadet_28: i liked the new middle east map. now that's a reason to go to war. heaven forbid countries should be divided on the basis of language, ethnicity, and religion.

That's the problem with the Middle East map we have now. It wasn't.
 
2006-11-14 5:37:05 PM  
azazyel -- It looks like the Shah did a nice bit of work, with help from us Americans. Too bad the current bunch of crazies are bent on global jihad -- with nuclear weapons, yet. Too very bad.
 
2006-11-14 5:37:42 PM  
Saddam had achieved almost universal adult literacy and Baghdadi meant "wealthy" in Arabic slang when his administration became a target for devastating sanctions and war.

Oh please
 
2006-11-14 5:38:24 PM  
FTFA: Even Iran has a vibrant gay subculture.

I don't know if "vibrant" is the word I would use to describe Iran's "gay subculture."

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2006-11-14 5:42:46 PM  
maxx2112 - How about "swinging"?
 
2006-11-14 5:43:33 PM  
Fallujah

Before:

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After:

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2006-11-14 5:44:02 PM  
or well hung?
 
2006-11-14 5:48:05 PM  
This About That
It looks like the Shah did a nice bit of work, with help from us Americans.

Yup, it was some nice bit of work...
 
2006-11-14 5:48:45 PM  
I earned the one-way on the express in response to Maxx2112
 
2006-11-14 5:54:38 PM  
This About That

If you actually read the article you would see that the support for the current regime isn't that high and the attitudes of the youth (70% under 30) are generally favorable to the US. According to the Smithsonian article "A New Day In Iran";

"These disenchanted "children of the revolution" make up the bulk of Iran's population, 70 percent of which is under 30. Too young to remember the anti-American sentiment of the '70s, they share little of their parents' ideology. While young Iranians of an earlier generation once revered Che Guevara and romanticized guerrilla movements, students on today's college campuses tend to shun politics and embrace practical goals such as getting a job or admission into a foreign graduate school. Some 150,000 Iranian professionals leave the country each year-one of the highest rates of brain drain in the Middle East. Meanwhile, Iranian intellectuals are quietly rediscovering American authors and embracing values familiar to any American civics student-separation of church and state, an independent judiciary and a strong presidency."
 
2006-11-14 6:06:34 PM  
azazyel -- TFA is the Daily Kos, whose word I do not necessarily take without further corroboration. Nonetheless, I have read all that elsewhere, more or less, and hope it is true. The problem for today is that the country is in the hands of extremist nuts, much like ours has been for six years, only worse, or at least ambitious opportunists who are willing to cooperate with extremest nuts. And they will soon have nuclear weapons unless they are forcibly prevented. I don't see the possibility of this younger and more civilized generation Kos believes exists taking power before disaster occurs. Therefore the problem is between America (Who else is going to face it?) and terrorist-supporting wackos.
 
jre
2006-11-14 6:10:56 PM  
azazyel: Meanwhile, Iranian intellectuals are quietly rediscovering American authors and embracing values familiar to any American civics student-separation of church and state, an independent judiciary and a strong presidency."


A country being brought into the 21st century without having to be bombed back to the stone age... I wonder if any Freepers are paying attention.
 
2006-11-14 6:16:27 PM  
I wasn't really talking about the Kos article, I was refering to the TIME one that I posted or the Smithsonian one that I refered to in my second post. The main trick is for the Irianian is to lessen the grips the Mullahs have on the country. I know it seems unlikely but there is hope...

"There's ample evidence that many ordinary Iranians are fed up with the involvement of Muslim clerics in government. "During the Constitutional Revolution, we talked about the separation of religion and state, without really knowing what that means," historian Kaveh Bayat told me in his book-filled Tehran study. "Our understanding today is much deeper. Now we know that it is neither in our interests nor the clergy's interest to rule the state." Or, as a physician in Tehran put it to me: "The mullahs, by failing, did what Ataturk could not even do in Turkey: secularize the populace thoroughly. Nobody wants to experiment with religion and politics anymore.""


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As well before this new nut took power Mohammad Khatami was actually trying to change the election process. If you look up the "twin bills' they were passed by parliament but vetoed obviously by the Guaridan Council. Are they going to be able to restle power from the Guardian Council, I don't know but I'm hopeful. At least we are seeing that the belief in change is alive there.
 
2006-11-14 6:19:40 PM  
Here is the Smithsonian article.

jre

Yeah, I really am hopeful for them and we really need the fiddle and not the drum when talking about Iran. Though, the outskirts of Iran are a lot more secular.
 
2006-11-14 6:28:16 PM  
Let us hope Iran evolves toward a better future -- before disaster visits. It could happen.
 
2006-11-14 6:30:33 PM  
I just hope the visiting disaster isn't us.
 
2006-11-14 7:23:46 PM  
No music buffs in here? Or was my Mixolydian comment that unfunny?
 
2006-11-14 7:35:07 PM  
If you had said harmonic minor I would have chuckled.
 
2006-11-14 8:10:12 PM  
Wouldn't it be funny if most of what we as US citizens know about the Iranian government, their political goals and their WMD efforts came to us through the same sources that got the same stuff so wrong for Iraq?

Wouldn't that just be a knee-slapper?
 
2006-11-14 9:28:21 PM  
A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A

/Aeolian mode
//music major
 
2006-11-14 11:08:35 PM  
sub is just another Republican crybaby who needs to shut the fark up.
 
2006-11-14 11:50:36 PM  
Barak vEsh
C-D-E-F-G-A-B-C

You've failed music hippy.
 
2006-11-15 12:15:58 AM  
Daddakamabb: Barak vEsh
C-D-E-F-G-A-B-C

You've failed music hippy.


In the key of C-major A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A is A minor Aeolian. What you have noted is Ionian.
 
2006-11-15 4:32:45 AM  
The situation in Iraq is still very aeolian if by 'aeolian' you mean that you can feel draft comming there.
 
2006-11-15 11:54:29 AM  
 
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