...reads TFA...

Now there's a surprise, submitter mischaracterizes something John Kerry said.

What he actually said was that Rusmsfeld didn't send enough troops, which his generals wanted.

5 farking years ago.

Now that the situation is untenable, it's a mistake to keep sending more soldiers, which is what he was talking about with the McCain comment. We're not doing any good there any longer, and the situation is very quickly spiralling out of control, and as he said- we simply don't have another 100,000 soldiers.

More than a hundred bodies turn up every day with torture marks, like drill holes in them, every day. Devout Muslims are having their bodies tattooed with their name and phone number so they can be identified if randomly killed in sectarian violence. We can't screw the place up any worse than we have already if we just leave.

I got your nuance right here, subby.

/Karl?

tarrant84

Jesus Christ, who cares about John Kerry?

Well, he is a U.S. Senator. Not a lot of those, and he does have a voice in the American government.

More importantly, why are people simply attacking John Kerry without bothering to understand what he actually said? For some reason it's fashionable to attack Kerry, but I'm having a hard time fathoming why.

My boyfriend almost got him to sign a flip flop, but he chickened out at the last second.

Too bad, really. One of the fastest ways in this political climate to get rid of a bad reputation is to embrace it and make it absurd.

puffy999

I mean, it isn't as if these politicians could discuss POSITIVE things they've done in Congress, or anything of that nature.

Actually, I imagine they could. Problem is that sort of thing doesn't get any play. And people don't pay attention to it if it's not nasty any more.

I don't think there's a single member of congress with a completely evil record, and even fewer with a record they couldn't trumpet to their supporters.

But in this day and age, it's far easier, more effective and apparently more satisfying to go for a cockpunch.

azmoviez

Personally I don't think Kerry fully plans on what to say and just speaks.

I think that's a great thing in a politician. I'd prefer someone who does things like stumble over their words or makes a mistake every now and then.

And the interesting thing is, most of the people who hate Kerry (and liberals in general) with the deepest passion are the ones who consider themselves "folksy" or simple, no-nonsense kinds of people, and yet are the ones who more than any other group swallow the manufactured line, the completely artificial message, and the totally non-believable facade.

But when a real human being who does things like change his mind when new information is available or flubs a zinger aimed at the President shows up, BURN THE FARKING WITCH!

/feh.

jarrett

rocket surgery

You sir, owe me a new keyboard.

azmovies

I want someone who has actually made a decision

Well, Kerry's not running for anything this season, but I hardly think changing his mind constitutes not having made a decision. I've made plenty of decisions that I later changed my mind about. Doesn't make me a waffler or wishy/washy.

There's a myth of the "leader" that seems to be that leaders make decisions and stick by them. Period. I've never seen a real leader do that. They make a decision and support it, until/if it's apparent that decision was incorrect.