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(Reuters)   Opinion writer says Republicans have "rubber stamped" Bush's agenda, including "tax cuts for the rich." Oops -- not an opinion writer; it's a "reporter" for some "news" service called Reuters   (today.reuters.com) divider line
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phenn
2006-10-23 1:31:41 PM  
Feeling a bit pissy because the other side engages in the same rubbish you mindless parrots do? Tough titties.
 
z00mz00mz00m
2006-10-23 1:35:12 PM  
submitter: "rubber stamped"

True, true...
 
Doctor Hooey
2006-10-23 1:37:48 PM  
so what part of that is not true?
 
mediaho
2006-10-23 1:37:50 PM  
What would you call it, submissive, er... submitter?
 
Cyberluddite [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2006-10-23 1:38:30 PM  
What is it about that statement that you think is not 100% true, Submitter? If you're going to imply that it's mere opinion rather than fact, you should probably try to dispute it somehow, don't you think?
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2006-10-23 1:39:41 PM  
Looks like the proverbial dam has broken.

Now how about those Energy Committee meeting minutes that we paid for? I want those too, damnit.
 
Gahbrone
2006-10-23 1:42:52 PM  
except that the highest income bracket got the smallest percentage tax cut.

Details... meh.
 
kronicfeld
2006-10-23 1:49:21 PM  
"tax cuts for the rich."

This string does not appear in the article. Why would you put it in quotes, submitter?
 
Turing_Machine [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2006-10-23 1:52:14 PM  
What is the count of presidential vetoes? How about congressional cuts to the federal budget?

The other explanation is that everyone is of the same exact mind and doesn't disagree because all these things are completely logical to them and what they want. Either the congress has been rubberstamping, or they're just as responsible for the condition of the nation.

I doubt that any Republican (or Democrat/Independent) is going to campaign on how often they voted for administration supported legislation. Either they're a shill, or they're stupid. Not much wiggle room to work with, there.
 
skinnycatullus [recently expired TotalFark]
2006-10-23 1:52:51 PM  
kronicfeld: Why would you put it in quotes, submitter?

Because it sounds more flameworthy than what the article actually said?

"tax cuts that went largely to the rich."
 
bboy
2006-10-23 1:54:29 PM  
Rush calls it "al-Reuters" and you should, too.

Any news service that questions the government in any way is seditious and unpatriotic and, by extension, a terrorist organization that loves the terrorists and hates America.
 
Turing_Machine [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2006-10-23 1:54:40 PM  
Gahbrone
except that the highest income bracket got the smallest percentage tax cut.

Details... meh.

Percentage of the tax rate, or percentage of collected tax revenue?

Details... meh.
 
albo
2006-10-23 1:55:23 PM  
it's the opinion/journalism argument. if you're going to include the language of an opinion article, label it as such.

personally, i love Al-Reuters
 
Demetrius [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2006-10-23 1:55:44 PM  
Truth hurts?
 
andyb2260
2006-10-23 1:56:12 PM  
kronicfeld: "tax cuts for the rich."

This string does not appear in the article. Why would you put it in quotes, submitter?

"...tax cuts that went largely to the rich."

/not submitter
 
Finnley Wren
2006-10-23 1:56:25 PM  
Wonder if it's the same guy from this 2003 chestnut:

Democrats Use Bush Tactics to Attack Him Credibility

Thomas Ferraro, Arab News

WASHINGTON, 2 August 2003 - During the 2000 White House race, Republican George W. Bush repeatedly charged Democrat Al Gore would "say anything to get elected president." Democrats are now using variations on that theme against President Bush.
 
phenn
2006-10-23 1:56:26 PM  
bboy

Rush calls it "al-Reuters" and you should, too.

You mean the same guy that called for all drug users to be jailed and then made himself deaf with unnecessary prescription drugs? That Rush?
 
Kohl
2006-10-23 1:56:30 PM  
elchip
Don't think so.

People in the previous 39.6% bracket got bumped to 33% (-6.6%)
People in the previous 36% bracket got bumped to 33% (-3%)
People in the previous 31% bracket got bumped to 25% (-6%)
People in the previous 28% bracket got bumped to 25% (-3%)
Some people in the previous 15% bracket stayed at 15% (-0%)
Somewhere around a third of the people in the previous 15% bracket got bumped to 10% (-5%)

I don't think you understood him properly:

Gahbrone:
Details... meh.
 
Loki-L
2006-10-23 1:57:05 PM  
I think that Submitter accidentally linked to the wrong reuters article.

I did not see anything about "rubber stamped" or "tax cuts for the rich" in the article. I only saw an article that basically said that a democratic majority could mean trouble for Bush. That is something everyone can pretty much agree on.
 
flavor of the month
2006-10-23 1:57:38 PM  
Bush's fellow Republicans applied a rubber stamp to much of his conservative agenda the past six years, including tax cuts that went largely to the rich.

this statement is true but the term "rubber stamp" is probably out of bounds for a reporter.
 
WalkingCarpet [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2006-10-23 1:58:30 PM  
That farking LIEbrul media.

Gimmie a break, I am so sick of that shiat. Anytime there's a negative story about the Republicans some moran will almost always trot out that old dog.

They did everything but swallow Bush's Presidential Load after 9/11 and now that they media is finally coming around and asking some tough questions, it's all "omg librul media" again.

They're still pussies imho, just look at how Stephanopoulos let Bush get away with saying that he's never been about "staying the course" in Iraq.

Someone get a farking whaaaaambulance for these poor persecuted Republicans.

Maybe the media would write something positive about this administration if they actually did something positive.
 
kronicfeld
2006-10-23 1:59:05 PM  
So the most rich got the second biggest percent cut. If the data I just found is accurate.

There is also the issue of the dividend rate dropping, which skews sharply in favor of the higher brackets.
 
bboy
2006-10-23 2:01:33 PM  
phenn: You mean the same guy that called for all drug users to be jailed and then made himself deaf with unnecessary prescription drugs? That Rush?

Yep. That's the one!
 
cjburger
2006-10-23 2:01:33 PM  
In case you decide to not RTFA I'll provide the cliff notes version:

If democrats win, fill in the blank.
Polls show, fill in the blank.

The rest is stupid crapola that we hear out of the liberal media on a daily basis.
 
phenn
2006-10-23 2:03:19 PM  
flavor of the month

this statement is true but the term "rubber stamp" is probably out of bounds for a reporter.

Rubber stamping indicates approving something without first scrutinizing it. What about that phrase is out of bounds for a reporter?
 
Dancin_In_Anson
2006-10-23 2:05:33 PM  
Damn sure they would have rubber stamped Social Security reform.
 
Dancin_In_Anson
2006-10-23 2:06:13 PM  
Damn sure wish they would have rubber stamped Social Security reform.

Preview is your friend....
 
Nabb1
2006-10-23 2:07:34 PM  
Dancin_In_Anson: Damn sure they would have rubber stamped Social Security reform.

No, politicians in both parties scurried away like roaches when the lights come on as soon as that was brought up.
 
timmy_the_tooth
2006-10-23 2:08:04 PM  
flavor of the month: this statement is true but the term "rubber stamp" is probably out of bounds for a reporter.

unless the republicans admit that they don't read the bills...

/which they have
//repeatedly
 
damonkboy
2006-10-23 2:10:54 PM  
Laf, that's the most accurate reporting this country has seen in a while.
 
flavor of the month
2006-10-23 2:11:15 PM  
phenn

the phrase has been adopted by lots of leftleaning media outlets and by several members of congress on the floor of the house to characterize the 109th congress' uncritical and compliant behavior. "rubber stamping" is an idiom that is indicative of the politics of the person using it, just like "death tax" or "cut and run". i dont think it matters how accurate the concept of rubber stamping is, the guy shouldnt have used it because its loaded.
 
FlashHarry [TotalFark]
2006-10-23 2:14:03 PM  
Weird. My first reaction was that this was actually a pro-Republican scare piece intended to get the right-wing base out on election day ("ZOMG! You'd better vote or them commie homo libruls will impeach your beloved president!!!11!ONE!!1!)
 
flood_guy
2006-10-23 2:15:36 PM  
timmy_the_tooth: unless the republicans admit that they don't read the bills...

No need to when you've got signing statements...
 
wyckedsmile
2006-10-23 2:17:20 PM  
I just love those who support the liberal media montra, then turn around and claim fox news is fair and balanced.
 
phenn
2006-10-23 2:17:26 PM  
flavor of the month

how accurate the concept of rubber stamping is, the guy shouldnt have used it because its loaded.

The term 'Iraq War' is rather loaded as well (certainly so as there is no formal Congressional declaration of it) yet that gets a fark of a lot of ink as well. I don't think we need to use selective ethics in what we say or how we read things. Rubber stamping is accurate and most surely a reality.

You and I will have to agree to disagree on this one.
 
flavor of the month
2006-10-23 2:20:04 PM  
You and I will have to agree to disagree on this one.

i disagree.
 
FarkmeBlind
2006-10-23 2:23:02 PM  
flavor of the month: the phrase has been adopted by lots of leftleaning media outlets and by several members of congress on the floor of the house to characterize the 109th congress' uncritical and compliant behavior.

It has? First I've heard it used as such. Perhaps your opinion isn't as widely held as you seem to believe.

Frankly, I would like reporters to stop using "Perfect Storm"" as I think it's intellectually lazy. Hasn't stopped anyone from doing it, nor does it make me sound like less of a whiny biatch when I needlessly complain about it. Continue to enjoy your version of same.
 
Nabb1
2006-10-23 2:24:00 PM  
phenn: Rubber stamping is accurate and most surely a reality.

Unless Congress is literally stamping documents of proposed legislation from the White House as they come in, it is a figure of speech and an opinion at that. I even agree with the opinion to some degree but I do recognize it is not a very objective term, and one a reporter should avoid using.
 
BrotherTheodore
2006-10-23 2:26:37 PM  
Reuters?
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Slackfumasta
2006-10-23 2:30:58 PM  
From TFA:

House Republican Whip Roy Blunt of Missouri said if Democrats won control, "taxes go up, the economy falters and we have a party in charge that doesn't understand what the war is all about."

Can somebodoy kick this guy in the ass for me please?
 
flavor of the month
2006-10-23 2:33:21 PM  
FarkMeBlind

Debbie Wasserman Shultz actually has a large prop rubber stamp that she uses in her speeches on the floor. Some others have to, it was kind of a minimovement over the summer.
 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark]
2006-10-23 2:33:23 PM  
kronicfeld: "tax cuts for the rich."

This string does not appear in the article. Why would you put it in quotes, submitter?

RTFA:

"Bush's fellow Republicans applied a rubber stamp to much of his conservative agenda the past six years, including tax cuts that went largely to the rich."

You're right. The headline TOTALLY misrepresented the article.

/not
 
unemployed_philosopher
2006-10-23 2:35:12 PM  
The CraneMeister: You're right. The headline TOTALLY misrepresented the article.

Accurate representation != actual words. The quotation mark should be used only for the latter (or scare quotes, but that's probably more advanced than most farkers should try).
 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark]
2006-10-23 2:35:40 PM  
Cyberluddite: What is it about that statement that you think is not 100% true, Submitter?

Boy, I sure miss the good old days when reporters at least took the time to hide their bias a little by quoting invisible critics:

"Bush's critics say his fellow Republicans applied a rubber stamp to much of his conservative agenda the past six years, including tax cuts that went largely to the rich."

Would that be so hard?
 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark]
2006-10-23 2:37:11 PM  
skinnycatullus: kronicfeld: Why would you put it in quotes, submitter?

Because it sounds more flameworthy than what the article actually said?

"tax cuts that went largely to the rich."

There's a third and far more prosaic explanation:

Fark has a character limit on headlines; "tax cuts that went largely to the rich" wouldn't fit but "tax cuts for the rich" did.
 
Savonarola_Redux
2006-10-23 2:41:39 PM  
While I'm no fan of the Democrats, I would welcome more balance in the government.
 
FarkmeBlind
2006-10-23 2:41:45 PM  
flavor of the month: Debbie Wasserman Shultz actually has a large prop rubber stamp that she uses in her speeches on the floor. Some others have to, it was kind of a minimovement over the summer.

If you're the only one who knows of it, that's a very mini movement.

So why are you having a massive bowel movement over it?
 
unemployed_philosopher
2006-10-23 2:42:33 PM  
The CraneMeister: Boy, I sure miss the good old days when reporters at least took the time to hide their bias a little by quoting invisible critics:

You don't need to 'hide a bias' if what you're saying is true.
 
Magorn [TotalFark]
2006-10-23 2:42:35 PM  
The Mode (as opposed to Mean and Median which are wildly misleading given income disparities) Tax cut for all Americans from Bush's bill was roughly $300. For the top 2% of Americans the Mode was about $120,000.

Thus you got a car payment, they got 2 brand new Merceedes. So, yeah, misleading numbers aside it was a tax cut for the rich.
 
suebhoney
2006-10-23 2:49:08 PM  
"A New Direction for America," which includes raising the federal minimum wage for the first time in a decade, ending some tax breaks to oil companies and making college more affordable by reducing federal student loan interest rates.

Democrats also promise to implement recommendations from the 9/11 Commission to bolster security, ease the threat of global warming and, in response to influence-peddling scandals on Capitol Hill, clean up the way Congress does business.

Bush supporters have been asking about the Democrat Agenda and their "plans." There they are, for all to see. Sounds like a good start to me.

Gridlock also sounds great. Less spending on the gov'ts part.
 
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