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2006-08-27 1:04:05 PM  
... which I could watch, if Metacafe didn't require a version of Flash that is not available for my computer.
 
2006-08-27 1:10:57 PM  
I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones.
 
2006-08-27 1:14:02 PM  
I got all fuzzy thinking it was the Middle East. Try it yourself!
 
2006-08-27 1:18:10 PM  
guess that's why nutcases shouldn't be allowed to have those weapons. Oh wait...

/Doh!
 
2006-08-27 1:21:22 PM  
It never did anything but play an ad, on repeat.

Who invented Flash? I mean, what Macromedia employee thought this up many years ago? 'Cause if it works against neurobiologists, I bet we can go harass his family until Flash goes away.
 
2006-08-27 1:49:17 PM  
With the way Iran's going, if we wait long enough we'll get to see the live tour soon.

Don't worry, the UN will protect us.
 
2006-08-27 2:11:01 PM  
It was the right decision at the time.

Anyone who says differently needs to read the force depletion stats for Operations Olympic & Coronet. Oh, and the military was about to overthrow Hirohito since he had started pressing for an armistice.
 
2006-08-27 2:24:37 PM  
Did anyone else have problems getting this to work in Opera? Works perfectly in IE but not Opera for some reason... :(
 
2006-08-27 2:25:34 PM  
This was from a movie or something? Can't emember the name. It was based on survivor's accounts. Really tragic and horrifying to watch the survivor's experiences after the blast. We don't ever need to have this happen again because it will be destruction on a huge and permanent scale.
 
2006-08-27 2:41:51 PM  
artman: This was from a movie or something? Can't emember the name.

It says up in the small print at the top. It was a BBC drama called "Hiroshima".
 
2006-08-27 2:47:13 PM  
>>>Major Thomb>>>

"It says up in the small print at the top. It was a BBC drama called "Hiroshima"."

I didn't watch the video. I had seen it posted on Digg. But thanks. Might check it out again.
 
Xai
2006-08-27 3:55:32 PM  
The bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki was the most monstrous thing man has ever done to man, hundreds of thousands of people, killed in mere seconds.

Unfortunately the united states is just as likely to use these terrible weapons as iran is.

I hope that one day we will finaly learn that destruction on such a grand scale is never necesary.

and to think that todays nukes are as much as 4500 times as powerful as the one that hit hiroshima.
 
2006-08-27 4:32:43 PM  
Check out the blonde girl who has trouble putting on socks on the same page.
/HAWT!
 
2006-08-27 4:33:59 PM  
Reminds me of the old song "Merry Minuet," which was done by several folk groups in the '50s-'60s. (I'm familiar with the Kingston Trio's version.) It was written in 1958.

They're rioting in Africa
They're starving in Spain
There's hurricanes in Florida
And Texas needs rain

The whole world is festering with unhappy souls
The French hate the Germans, the Germans hate the Poles
Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch
And I don't like anybody very much

But we can be tranquil and thankful and proud
For man's been endowed with a mushroom-shaped cloud
And we know for certain that some lucky day
Someone will set the spark off...
...and we will all be blown away!

They're rioting in Africa
There's strife in Iran
What nature doesn't do to us
Will be done by our fellow Man


Cha cha cha!
 
2006-08-27 5:08:25 PM  
Didn't even knock down the domed building directly under the blast.

Maybe if the rest wasn't built of spit and rice paper.
 
2006-08-27 5:11:52 PM  
Xai: The bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki was the most monstrous thing man has ever done to man, hundreds of thousands of people, killed in mere seconds.

Nonsense. Fire bombings during WWII were far more devastating.

Unfortunately the united states is just as likely to use these terrible weapons as iran is.

Total bull shiat.

I hope that one day we will finaly learn that destruction on such a grand scale is never necesary.

The destruction isn't but the threat is. Ever since that day has been the most peaceful time in history following a huge escalation in lives lost in war. Like it or not, people will try to control other people unless they know they'll get their ass kicked for trying.

and to think that todays nukes are as much as 4500 times as powerful as the one that hit hiroshima.

That would be 67 megatons which is larger than any bomb built. Ivan was 50 and that was as big as a house and far too large to actually be a used as a weapon.
 
2006-08-27 5:27:54 PM  
The bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki was the most monstrous thing man has ever done to man, hundreds of thousands of people, killed in mere seconds.

Unfortunately the united states is just as likely to use these terrible weapons as iran is.

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Heh, I think you need to study history a bit more if you think those two bombs the most monsterous thing man has ever done to man. You're talking out of ignorance.

The number of dead to both countries would have dwarfed the amount of dead from the bombs if an invasion had been necessary to stop the war. My guess is the nukes actually decreased the suffering when you look at the big picture.

Lastly, there is a bit of a difference between the USA using nuclear weapons against a country that attacked it and Iran supplying terrorist groups with nukes.
 
2006-08-27 5:38:53 PM  
Pretty dramatic when you mute the sound and play "The Noose" by A Perfect Circle.
 
2006-08-27 5:43:01 PM  
CGI=Common Gateway Interface
 
2006-08-27 6:00:58 PM  
Xai: The bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki was the most monstrous thing man has ever done to man, hundreds of thousands of people, killed in mere seconds.

[image from photosagogo.com too old to be available]

I didn't know that.
 
2006-08-27 6:10:26 PM  
 
2006-08-27 6:29:57 PM  
Xai: The bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki was the most monstrous thing man has ever done to man, hundreds of thousands of people, killed in mere seconds.


I realize you're probably talking from your heart after seeing that video.
It WAS monstrous. I especially noticed they only showed women and children close up.
But remember, this is Fark where you can't talk like that because ego driven forum campers will try to make sure they're smarter than you by posting things and making fun, all because of one sentence.
 
2006-08-27 6:42:21 PM  
JimmyJava: CGI=Common Gateway Interface


Also stands for Computer Generated Imagery so submitter is correct in the usage.
 
2006-08-27 7:00:35 PM  
Those of you that have problems with embeded flash video like YouTube you need to:

1. Update Opera

2. Update your flash

3. Profit?

It'll work perfectly. Anything below Opera 8.5 won't work well with embeded flash. You'd normall have to open it in IE or Mozilla.
 
2006-08-27 7:21:07 PM  
Heroic Poser

I especially noticed they only showed women and children close up.
There were relatively few men in Hiroshima at the time since most of them were in the army.
 
2006-08-27 7:40:08 PM  
Unfortunately the united states is just as likely to use these terrible weapons as iran is.

Total bull shiat.


Hell it is. Depending ofcourse, on who's will you're speaking of. Will Iran use them? No, becuase the West (read: US or Isreal) is going to blow the shihizzle out of that un-happy little nation before too long. Would the US use one? Is Don Rumsfeld a soulless creten that told troops they had to fight with the army they had?
It's interesting that no one has brought up the Isreal has nukes (which they stole the designs from us) and has not eliminated the use of them in combat.
 
2006-08-27 8:15:25 PM  
It WAS monstrous. But remember, this is Fark where you can't talk like that because ego driven forum campers will try to make sure they're smarter than you by posting things and making fun, all because of one sentence.

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It's real simple, he claimed it was the most monsterous thing humans have ever done to themselves and it's a stupidly ignorant statement.

I suggest reading up on how many Jews were killed in Germany, how many deaths Stalin and Marx were responsible for, how many people died in the Armenian or Rwandian Genocides. Take a look at how many people Japan killed in Nanking alone if you actually believe it.
 
2006-08-27 8:49:20 PM  
We wouldn't have had to invade. The war was all but over by the time The Enola Gay dropped little boy. Japan and Russia had a neutrality treaty that Russia was going to violate early to keep the Yanks from stealing the show. There was a lot of rhetoric from the Japanese Government, but there always is in wartime. Invading Japan would've been unnecessary.
The US wanted to a) justify the expense of the project and b) establish their position as top dog for the coming War between Russia and the US. Hirohito wanted an accord, but the Potsdam conditions intentionally included the one thing that the Japanese couldn't swallow: abolition of the imperial system. Peace with Honor was not offered to them. if it had been. . eh. screw it. "what ifs" are lame. it happened, but I hope that we can learn the right lessons from it.

The Nuclear Bomb is just a thing. like a hammer or a gun. it's not intrinsically evil and the monstrosity of its use was not unprecedented or unsurpassed. The dropping of the Bombs, however, underline Man's indiscriminate inhumanity to Man. I would hope that everyone here can agree that killing civilians sucks, and that doing it on purpose sucks more.
 
2006-08-27 10:38:34 PM  
What was really horrific about the video was the LEDs and the little white plastic PC type electrical connectors! I didn't know the U.S. armed forces had those in 1945.
 
2006-08-27 11:00:23 PM  
jitensha: Peace with Honor was not offered to them.

Why should it have been offered to them?
 
2006-08-27 11:12:30 PM  
jeffdo1: It's real simple, he claimed it was the most monsterous thing humans have ever done to themselves and it's a stupidly ignorant statement.

I suggest reading up on how many Jews were killed in Germany, how many deaths Stalin and Marx were responsible for, how many people died in the Armenian or Rwandian Genocides. Take a look at how many people Japan killed in Nanking alone if you actually believe it.



So he said something. Big deal. What if I said "JAWS was a killer movie"? Did it actually kill people? No. It's just a statement.
I don't know the guy from Adam, but I'm pretty sure he knows that. Fark, WE ALL KNOW THAT!
It's people **like you** who decide it upon yourselves to "teach" people in a farking forum how much you know when really, it's just a farking statement. Some of you carry so much baggage into a thread just to prove yourselves, you've forgotten how to talk to people.
All I'm suggesting is that every now and then, a few of you could take some Social Skills classes with your history classes.
So if you're thinking you're the smartest person here, thats a pretty stupid ignorant statement.
 
2006-08-28 1:52:36 AM  
The only other thing stupid and ignorant here is you jumping into the middle of a thread and claiming to have some sort of mind reading ability that lets you know what both the poster that I disagreed with and myself were thinking.

I don't need to take any social skill classes thanks, it's the internet. I don't care about your feelings, I don't care about sending you smiley faces and giving you warm happy hugs. I'm not out to make your day, or spread love.

What I do know is that the USA doesn't need to appologize for what it did.
 
2006-08-28 2:20:27 AM  
Tom-Servo

It's called a win-win situation... saving face is a big deal in Asian culture. It would have gone a long way to gaining Japanese respect, rather than the fear and hatred that followed the bombings.
 
2006-08-28 6:21:23 AM  
2 bombs ended a war that lasted 6 years and over 60 million lives. By todays standards killings civilians is wrong, in WW2 though it was survival. The Japanese weren't innocent and killed far more civilians by 'conventional' means than the US killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
 
2006-08-28 8:07:42 AM  
bah, if you're going to say that the two atom bombs were bad, you don't know much about WW2.

THe most outrageous thing the US did against Japan was the firebombing of Tokyo. It was deliberately razed to rubble. It wasn't a flash like the A-bombs. It was a slow, meticulous destruction of a city and populace.
 
2006-08-28 11:33:47 AM  
The big question is this;

Was that John Hurt doing narration?
 
2006-08-28 11:57:16 AM  
the narration was done by H.R. Hadden from the movie Contact
 
2006-08-28 2:23:32 PM  
The Manhattan Project invented molex connectors?

The more you know...
 
2006-08-28 7:06:36 PM  
jeffdo1

I don't need to take any social skill classes thanks, it's the internet. I don't care about your feelings, I don't care about sending you smiley faces and giving you warm happy hugs. I'm not out to make your day, or spread love.

What I do know is that the USA doesn't need to appologize for what it did.


jeffdo1 gets HERO tag.


Sure we could have just invaded... and lost maybe a million (ONE MILLION) of our troops, higher numbers of Japanese troops and covilians, and the USSR would have had time to get their own invasion in. Remember East Germany compared to West Germany? Imagine North Japan and South Japan.

And as Kell Hound pointed out, the Imperial Army was getting ready to overthrow the Emperor. It was not uncommon for Army agents to assassinate Navy brass, so such an action wouldn't *quite* be unprecedented, either. We needed a way to convince them that their position was untenable to end the war, FAST, for everybody's sake.

It worked.
 
2006-08-28 8:50:06 PM  
The greatest terrorist act ever committed?

/Question by an American.
 
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