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(USA Today)   Colleges aiming to steer kids towards healthy diets. Yeah, good luck with that   ( divider line
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2006-08-21 05:25:12 AM  
2006-08-21 05:27:07 AM  
2006-08-21 05:28:00 AM  
Ramen isn't healthy? Who knew!
2006-08-21 05:37:33 AM  
Where's my baconated grapefruit!
2006-08-21 05:43:19 AM  
It might help if they lowered their tuition a bit so people had money to buy better food. Just a thought.
2006-08-21 05:46:22 AM  
Next up: Getting them to stop getting drunk.
2006-08-21 05:47:18 AM  

I believe tuition should be set as high as possible in order to weed out all of those people who should not be in university. If they can't afford it financially, they will still get in if they're intelligent enough to earn a scholarship.
2006-08-21 05:47:39 AM  
ChronicallyCanuk: Where's my baconated grapefruit!

Here ya go.
2006-08-21 05:49:00 AM  
WhyteRaven74: One problem with that - it would undermine our fine American tradition of curing the symptoms rather than the root problem.
As far as food goes, when I went to school our grocery store used to run specials. You could get 16 chicken patties (Foreman grill fodder) for five bucks on the third week of every month. I think they were something like 40% sodium, 33% sat fat - but slap a little yellow mustard on there and you couldn't tell. Talk about damage to your health. I'm thoroughly convinced that I wiped out a couple years of my life as a result of that.

2006-08-21 05:52:02 AM  
Im surprised I am still alive after the 5 years I spent consuming mass amounts of caffine and junk just to keep my brain going. Now that I am out of college, I am just now getting to know the world of healthy food...although I have fond memories of Ramen Noodles...
2006-08-21 05:55:10 AM  
Devanney: I believe tuition should be set as high as possible in order to weed out all of those people who should not be in university

Yeah and that would discourage a lot of people as well. No one should ever be put under financial stress, ever, to go to school. Period, case closed, argument over. No one should ever find themselves with any massive debt or even not so massive debt on account of persuing any course of study. As for those who shouldn't be at college? Simple, those who think of attending only in terms of making money later. Closing business departments wouldn't be a bad idea either.

triphammer: it would undermine our fine American tradition of curing the symptoms rather than the root problem.

Yeah it would and thus will never happen. I remember specials at the local college supermarket too. And the best were when they just wanted something off the shelves and fast. Pickled beets are good but after a few days of seeing 3 jars in your fridge? You start to feel a bit nauseous.
2006-08-21 05:56:55 AM  
Beer is the only necessary food for college students. And Dennys. Oh, and the McD's $0.99 menu.
2006-08-21 06:02:12 AM  
geetus: the McD's $0.99 menu.

heh when I was in college you could throw in the Pizza Hut buffet. Also Taco Bell, sweet Taco Bell. I remember when seven layer burritos first came out, as a limited time thing. Oh I was in heaven. Then they went away and I was sad. Then they came back for good and I was very happy. Once in a blue moon I get a couple seven layer burritos and I can't bite into one without thinking back to the Taco Bell two blocks from my dorm.
2006-08-21 06:03:04 AM  

Students should find themselves under financial stress, it makes the education more worthwhile when you earn it. As for all this "period, case closed, argument over" crap... GBTW and learn how to put together an argument properly.
2006-08-21 06:08:17 AM  
ProTip: HAVE BETTER FOOD IN THE CAFETERIAS! All they serve at my school is crap, except for a couple places that can be very far out of the way depending on which dorm you live in.
2006-08-21 06:08:30 AM  

I worked at both Pizza Hut and Taco Bell while I was in college. And I can say I never tired of the food. Quite often I'd eat Taco Bell 3 meals a day. One time I made a 5lb. burrito. Also worked at Subway for a while. Gawd I'm glad those days are over & I can earn a paycheck for surfing the net most of the night instead of making 500 tacos a day...

/ahh, the memories
2006-08-21 06:12:02 AM  
I'm hungover and I want junk food pretty badly right now. The roast chicken and beans left over from last night that I've got for my lunch feel like a pretty poor second I can tell you.
2006-08-21 06:20:51 AM  
Go to uni in Ireland. It's free there.
2006-08-21 06:30:42 AM  
Devanney: Students should find themselves under financial stress, it makes the education more worthwhile when you earn it

I was just thinking of my two uncles, one a chemical engineer and one a mathematician and professor. Total cost for their respective MS and Phd? Zero. Appreciation of said degrees? immeasurable. Neither uncle wanted to be anything else but what he is now from an early age. So yes they are a bit atypical. That being said, the Czech government didn't agree with your sentiments at all. When my mathematician uncle did his master's work in Canada, the Czech government made sure the bill was paid even though McMcaster up in Hamilton, Ontario, wasn't asking for much anyways.

The earning you think of is entirely the wrong kind of earning when it comes to school. In school what is earned should be earned by learning and applying your mind alone. Earning money ouoght have no part of it at any point ever. Sadly even colleges now care more for funds than knowledge. It's why there is today, that I know of, no college left where you could show up with no credits and without ever attending summer courses or going over regular fulltime class load still graduate in two years. The schools want the money, not to recognize existing knowledge and intellect.
2006-08-21 07:35:54 AM  
I can't agree more. I held down a full time bullshiat job while going to college, and it had a huge negative effect on my grades. If you're enrolled in school, you should go to school (if you have the opportunity). Get a part time job, maybe. Working full time only hurt me. Never had the time or the energy to study much, after working for 8 hours. My grades were decent, but they could've been a lot better if I'd had more time to dedicate to studying.

/3.98 gpa in high school, 2.5 in college
2006-08-21 07:46:13 AM  
yah thatll work

/chops on pop-tart
2006-08-21 07:52:48 AM  
If "No one should ever be put under financial stress, ever, to go to school. Period, case closed, argument over." were the case, every slack-jawed moron would go, flunk out, cost the taxpeyers $10,000 a semster, and never get anything out of it. If you think there's a lot of dropouts now, wait until it doesn't cost anyone a penny to do it! And then those people who are there because it's free and not there because they want to take it seriously are taking up the a space from someone else. Anyone who's ever gone to college or university can attest that there are a lot of students there who just aren't taking it seriously.

And even if that weren't the case, what are you going to do for a living once everyone in the whole country has a PhD because it was free? You're still going to be flipping burgers like you are now.

It would be real super duper nice and happy if college were free, but grossly unrealistic. Like everything else in life worth having, it's a got price attached.
2006-08-21 07:55:28 AM  
Ugh, please dont mention pop tarts...after college, every time I see one i get sick.
2006-08-21 07:55:51 AM  
Learning how to eat a balanced diet probably was one of the things parents should have taught the kids prior to entering college.

As for the mini-debate about tuition vs. free education, I think anyone who can pass an Entrance Examination should be given as much college-level education as they want for free.
2006-08-21 08:08:57 AM  
We knew about the Freshmen 15, 16 years ago when I was a freshman. We knew enough to heed its warning. But if they'd have taken away the giant chocolate chip cookies in the snack bar that was open after the dining hall closed, we would have killed someone.
2006-08-21 08:31:08 AM  
Kareeshus: every slack-jawed moron would go

No they wouldn't. Lots of people don't go now for reasons having nothing to do with money.

not there because they want to take it seriously

Schooling is never to be taken seriously. Intelligently, thoughtfully and hopefully with some humor is how it should be taken. But seriousness has no place in a school. I'd say being serious instead of smart is half the problem with schools.

Like everything else in life worth having, it's a got price attached.

Who says college is worth having? For some people and in some cases but it's not worth having for everyone. That is up to each person to decide for themselves.
2006-08-21 08:35:49 AM  
Kareeshus: It would be real super duper nice and happy if college were free, but grossly unrealistic. Like everything else in life worth having, it's a got price attached.

Unfortunately as that price increases a good majority of otherwise intelligent and smart lower socio-economic classed kids end up getting thrown to the wayside and things like blight and the general decline of brain power in this country continue to get worse.

Invest in our future and help invest in someones education.
2006-08-21 08:38:24 AM  

What would getting rid of business departments help anything? I realize it might be tongue in cheek, but if you were serious, yeah, I agreed with everything you said up to that point. Business affects ever other major.

/That's why I'm a business major
//Don't care for it, but it's easy.
///And it doesn't pigeonhole me into anything.
///Going for four slashies, thank you.
2006-08-21 08:39:48 AM  
Oh, my meals were so healthy in college. It was just the university-run convenience store downstairs in my dorm that added all the extra calories.
2006-08-21 08:42:02 AM  

/Hides from grammar Nazis.
2006-08-21 08:46:20 AM  
I left the dorms my junior year of college not to have to deal with caf food. Sure there was all-you-can-eat pizza, but it was horrid. The $4 X-Large pizzas at the six pack shop which tasted slightly of cardboard were better. Also, who wants ice cream that people scooped out themselves? It's like at the Chinese buffet places, who knows what people did before scooping it, just icky.

On the healthy food side, the salad bar was repulsive. They stocked it at 11 in the morning, and the veggies that were there at 11am were still there at 8pm, when the place closed, if people had not finished them earlier in the day.
2006-08-21 08:54:53 AM  
I've been to a lot of state universities and first tier universities, and I can't even think of one that offered healthy food, even if you were actively searching for it. I always ate off-campus.
2006-08-21 09:14:13 AM  
Hmmmm...Weekly shopping list for 2 years:

Jack Daniels...check
Diet Coke...check
Ramen Noodles...check
Chicken Pot Pies...check

Ah, the Good Old Days!
2006-08-21 09:20:45 AM  
It's one of those catch 22 situations. Colleges get lots of complaints about not having healthy food. Then they offer healthy food and no one eats it. The college I'm at has pretty good food but it's expensive. They have a good selection of vegetarian, vegan and health foods. Most of it goes to waste, but they continue to offer it.
2006-08-21 09:24:39 AM  

/wrong thread?
//I think not
2006-08-21 09:26:33 AM  
Business affects ever other major.

Exactly. Business is what keeps progress in check. If people weren't hassled with endless meetings and supervisors who don't know anything about what they're doing, we'd have such high productivity that we'd already have landed on Mars, awoken an ancient, malevolent race, and been wiped from history with a wave of their hand.

So, you see, we need business majors.
2006-08-21 09:28:57 AM  

I think the key here is to ONLY offer healthy food. There is no reason the dining halls have to indulge anyone's sense of pizza. Besides, it would make it a lot easier on the RAs who try to lure people to meetings with free slices.
2006-08-21 09:33:45 AM  
Thank God for meetings - without them I'd just be coding.

/coding...what a waste
//when you can have meetings
///yay meetings!
////oh yeah back to topic - Savory Salisbury Steak night = liquid stool! yay Dietrich hall!
2006-08-21 09:43:43 AM  
every slack-jawed moron would go, flunk out, cost the taxpeyers $10,000 a semster, and never get anything out of it.

Well, except for the fact that slack-jawed morons don't qualify for admission, and the fact that $10K a semester is more in line with private schools than public schools, that argument makes perfect sense.

It should be ability to learn, not ability to pay.
2006-08-21 09:43:48 AM  

___ RICH ___ schools... healthy diet.

It costs more to deliver, store, and prepare healthy food. Salt and sugar-socked crap is cheaper and only requires heating.

This is one of the reasons you will always see poor schools with behavioral problems and higher instances of childhood diabetes.
2006-08-21 09:44:34 AM  
They might as well make cafeteria food healthier. It generally sucks anyway.
2006-08-21 10:24:56 AM  
DAebi1: I realize it might be tongue in cheek

It was tongue in cheek that's all, nothing to it just a little shot at the money is everything crowd.
2006-08-21 10:30:01 AM  
interactive nutrition workshop for freshmen with eating problems. It includes tips for quick, healthy meals in the dorm, and how to eat the right way in an all-you-can eat dining hall

This is stupid. I see a dangerous trend of colleges baby-sitting their "children", which does nothing to foster independence of any sort. Sometimes you must need to grow a hoola-hoop of blubber that bounces your backpack and realize "shiat, I'm a fatass, I gotta take better care of my health" rather than having the U. of mommy and daddy dictate everything.

At my college we had to take a MANDATORY course on alcohol safety.

/effective as Red Ribbon Week
2006-08-21 11:22:31 AM  
As I sit here on my first day back to class for the semester, I have to agree with so much that is said. By the end of sophomore year, I had grown weary of Ramen. I then moved on to chicken nuggets. Last night, dinner was chicken nuggets, stove top and mashed potatoes. I completely understand stopping at Taco Bell on the way home at night, I do it about 3 nights a week.
2006-08-21 11:35:11 AM  
When I was in college I thought the "freshman 15" referred to how much weight someone LOST during their first year of college. I lost about ten pounds. I think it was because a) I didn't have the money to be eating all the time and b) I didn't usually walk up and down steep hills with 50 pounds of books on my back.

I guess if colleges have to tell students not to walk on icy rivers, they have to tell them how to eat also. Sigh...
2006-08-21 12:49:32 PM  
I'm in college now. During my freshman year, we had to take a "wellness" class (apparently, "health" has gone out of style. They told us to eat healthy, don't drink, etc. but it's not like any of us ever thought about it again once we were finished with the class.

As for me, I think my body has only a certain tolerance level for junky/fried food, and after that I have to eat relatively healthy things.
2006-08-21 05:16:21 PM  
At my college all the meat sat in its own grease all day and 95% of the vegetarian options were carbs smothered in neon orange cheese. My freshman year the salad bar was not an option because the roaches liked to cozy up in the lettuce. I didn't have the money to go to the Taco Bell, the Subway, or the two grocery stores across the street for every meal, so the Freshman 15 was something I lost as well.
2006-08-21 06:02:23 PM  
I'm starting college next week... thanks for the reminder about the "freshman 15."

/lost 55 lbs in past 7 months (205 to 150)
//doesn't want to be a fatass again
///wants to fark the chicks before they gain 15 pounds
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