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(Detroit Free Press)   Judge who ordered NSA to stop wiretaps is a liberal Democrat who campaigned for Jimmy Carter and was rewarded with her seat on the judiciary   (freep.com) divider line
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306 clicks; posted to Politics » on 17 Aug 2006 at 7:08 PM (16 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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GWLush
2006-08-17 4:58:36 PM  
Killing the messenger has begun.
 
DeeKayOne
2006-08-17 5:00:44 PM  
Oh.

In other news, President who ordered NSA wiretaps is a totalitarian Republican who campaigned for his father and was rewarded with the presidency.

Your point?
 
stevecody
2006-08-17 5:02:07 PM  
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Doctor Hooey
2006-08-17 5:04:29 PM  
Favoritism? IN GOVERNMENT???? UNPOSSIBLE!
 
Slim Pickens
2006-08-17 5:05:14 PM  
Since when do allow our judges to have their own opinions? It's an outrage, I tell ya!

/an outrage!
 
PseudoNic
2006-08-17 5:05:18 PM  
One day the judge who overturns Roe v Wade will be called a Conservative Republican who was awarded his seat, as well.
 
CougarJeff
2006-08-17 5:05:45 PM  
And?
 
Mosey
2006-08-17 5:09:16 PM  
CougarJeff: And?

Really, none. It does allow a seed of "politics over law" to enter, creating a slightly greater chance another court will overturn it (should that have been the case).

Makes me put a LOT less credibility into her comments blasting the law to begin with, and SLIGHTLY more into any counter that is presented.

If a judge is known as a centrist (or anyone for that matter) they tend to get a little more credibility from me whenever the topic touches politics.

I don't think the judge is a moran, or even wrong, but it can turn the argument a bit more.
 
Action Replay Nick
2006-08-17 5:11:28 PM  
DeeKayOne f*cking wins like a motherf*cker.
 
unlikely [OhFark]
2006-08-17 5:11:45 PM  
If a judge is a member of the communist party and appointed to his/her post by Hitler and says the sky is blue, does that mean it's definitely red?
 
El Morro
2006-08-17 5:16:15 PM  
I see the assaults on the judge have started. Right on time, I might add.
 
POAC
2006-08-17 5:17:17 PM  
submitter: Judge who ordered NSA to stop wiretaps is a liberal Democrat who campaigned for Jimmy Carter and was rewarded with her seat on the judiciary

Proving that democrats will defend the constitution and your civil liberties and republicans won't?

/Just askin'
 
Kevin Phillips BONG
2006-08-17 5:18:12 PM  
DeeKayOne just won not only this thread, but some of the ownage actually spilled into other nearby threads.

I'd also like to point out "blah blah reality has a liberal bias blah blah"
 
vartian
2006-08-17 5:23:09 PM  
PseudoNic

One day the judge who overturns Roe v Wade will be called a Conservative Republican who was awarded his seat, as well.

Let them try...it will rip the Republican party to shreds. They will loose every single moderate they have and either kill the party, or force it to split off into two groups.
 
whidbey
2006-08-17 5:23:53 PM  
Yeah, sucks to be you, submitter.

She's your worst nightmare.
 
pontechango
2006-08-17 5:27:00 PM  
i.e. one of the remaining sane ones.
 
BearToy
2006-08-17 5:31:04 PM  
Some guy who works in the cubicle across from mine said he read from some thing on the Internet that she also pulls the legs off of puppies.
 
Brettster808 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2006-08-17 5:36:07 PM  
You know, sometimes a judge calling something unconstituional is just a judge calling something unconstitutional.
 
AirForceVet [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2006-08-17 5:36:39 PM  
GWLush

Killing the messenger has begun.

More like the killing of our independent judiciary marches on.
 
Bladel
2006-08-17 5:36:44 PM  
Quick Men! To the Swift Boats!

[image from brownwater-navy.com too old to be available]
 
heap
2006-08-17 5:40:01 PM  
erm...sounds like this is a sign that carter picked a good judge.

just how exactly is this information supposed to be damning?
 
Zulu_as_Kono [OhFark]
2006-08-17 5:41:39 PM  
I'm really surprised it took this long for someone to submit a thread about this.
 
sat1va
2006-08-17 5:43:40 PM  
I still don't understand how people can argue that the warrantless wire taps were constitutional.
 
Bladel
2006-08-17 5:45:28 PM  
AirForceVet: More like the killing of our independent judiciary marches on.


Can you believe the nerve of these courts? It's almost as if they were a separate branch of the government, checking over the laws and balancing the powers of the others.


/second the outrage!
 
mathmatix
2006-08-17 5:45:51 PM  
so the other article was deleted the hero link... yet the liberal bashing gets a green light?

have the tabs really affected the modmins that much?

guess all that nerfball bashing was just practice, now he will come in with a new ready to use argument... lol
 
DistendedPendulusFrenulum
2006-08-17 5:47:02 PM  
sat1va

I still don't understand how people can argue that the warrantless wire taps were constitutional.

I guess it has something to do about that pesky Bill of Rights.
___________________

Let the Swift Boating begin! What's fascinating to me is the sudden openness with which the wingnut right now expects right-wing judicial activism from its appointees.

.
 
Bladel
2006-08-17 5:47:35 PM  
sat1va: I still don't understand how people can argue that the warrantless wire taps were constitutional.

[image from mediabistro.com too old to be available]

"You're still trying to argue with your brain. Try using your gut."
 
st_gulik
2006-08-17 5:49:53 PM  
Mosey: If a judge is known as a centrist (or anyone for that matter) they tend to get a little more credibility from me whenever the topic touches politics.

I doubt that. you're about as centrist as Colonel Klink.

Really, none. It does allow a seed of "politics over law" to enter, creating a slightly greater chance another court will overturn it (should that have been the case).

Why not the rest of you spend five minutes and read about how this woman came to be a judge. She did so more because of her Civil Rights work than her campaigning for Carter. She's definitely a strong and intelligent judge, not some political appointee simonist like our friend Mosey hopes to be someday.

So you actually work on K Street, or do you just have wet dreams about it Mose?
 
Quick1
2006-08-17 5:57:53 PM  
So is this the place where I insert a comment about how a majority of Justices who awarded Bush with the Presidency were awarded their seats by Republican Presidents?
 
Capt_Evil
2006-08-17 6:11:17 PM  
Not quite the right thread, but warrants could be issued three days after the wire tapping happened.

This issue is only about oversight. It has nothing whatsoever to do with hindering the war on terrorism.
 
williehorton
2006-08-17 6:15:15 PM  
DeeKayOne already won the thread...
Second place goes to Quick1.
 
DistendedPendulusFrenulum
2006-08-17 6:15:32 PM  
Capt_Evil

That kind of fact doesn't register with the wingnuts. All they see is someone embarrassing Dear Leader. Forget the connection between due process and free society. Forget the abuses of police power associated with totalitarian states. The New Right Wing Nutbag is an authoritaria ideolog anyway. He's going to look at attacks on civil society as a good thing.

.
 
Mosey
2006-08-17 6:54:48 PM  
sat1va: I still don't understand how people can argue that the warrantless wire taps were constitutional.

Because it is possibly more complicated than the black and white you are proposing it is.

I know I don't know the details, the law, the "secret" stuff, or even what is commonly argued before the FISA court. I am pretty sure you don't either.

To put anything as "duh" when you are dealing with national security issues, levels of courts, etc is really an irony to your entire "I can't see..." statement.

/can't understand how anyone can't graduate high school
// can't see why anyone would not wear velcro shoes
// and so on
 
Mosey
2006-08-17 6:57:02 PM  
Brettster808: You know, sometimes a judge calling something unconstituional is just a judge calling something unconstitutional.

Belive it or not that is true. Even SCOTUS offers a lot of 9-0 (or without comment) cases.

This one... pretty sure the ruling is fair, the language she used, maybe more politically motivated.
 
ksdanj
2006-08-17 6:57:27 PM  
elchip: Yeah... and Souter was appointed by Bush I and Stevens was appointed by Ford. So what?


I'm devoutly agnostic, but every night before my head hits the pillow I say a little prayer for the continued good health of Justice Stevens.
 
Jon Snow
2006-08-17 7:14:36 PM  
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eden express
2006-08-17 7:21:15 PM  
buhbuhbuhbuhbuhbuhbuhbbbbut CARTER
 
rlrevell
2006-08-17 7:21:56 PM  
heap

just how exactly is this information supposed to be damning?

Right wingers see the world in black and white. They're convinced that everyone is as crooked and partisan as they are. In their world, anyone who's ever been associated with Democrats or even voted for one has no credibility.
 
Gosling
2006-08-17 7:23:25 PM  
Okay, submitter. And your point?
 
Mosey
2006-08-17 7:27:42 PM  
rlrevell: Right wingers see the world in black and white.

I'll take hypocrisy for $500 Alex.
 
Thrag
2006-08-17 7:28:26 PM  
Gosling: Okay, submitter. And your point?

Don't you know? Carter was one of the most evil un-American people ever to walk the earth. Just hearing that someone mentioned the name Carter (without following it with "that bastard") also makes one an evil un-American. For someone to have actually worked for Carter makes them double secret evil. Just mentioning that someone had contact with Carter is enough to discredit everything they've ever done in their lives. Carter is the boogeyman that scares little neocon children of all ages.
 
whidbey
2006-08-17 7:28:26 PM  
Gosling: And your point?

I can't blame the submitter for having his ideology hit in the ass like buckshot.

I'd be pissed, too.

Damn that CONSTITUTION. Gets in the way of so much FUN...
 
somemoron
2006-08-17 7:30:23 PM  
rlrevell: heap

just how exactly is this information supposed to be damning?

Right wingers see the world in black and white. They're convinced that everyone is as crooked and partisan as they are. In their world, anyone who's ever been associated with Democrats or even voted for one has no credibility.

Funny. I'm a right winger, I don't think that at all. Nice job, asshat.
 
Thrag
2006-08-17 7:34:44 PM  
Mosey: I'll take hypocrisy for $500 Alex.

Why would you want to purcahse something you already own?
 
Bozdech2
2006-08-17 7:38:27 PM  
rlrevell Right wingers see the world in black and white

Small correction, ALL extremist see the world as black and white. That would be why the are called extremist. The first time anyone pulls out "Then we start a slippery slope" that's an extremist. Those are the people that say armor piercing bullets should be legal, or people who say they can pull a baby out of the mother, crack its skull or burn it with salt acid and push it back in.

Is it ironic that you make a black and white statement about right wingers being black and white thinkers?

/The slopes aren't that slippery, the lawyers are.
// Vote Bull Moose
 
Thrag
2006-08-17 7:38:55 PM  
BTW, I'm just filling in the easy punchlines. I don't know if you're a hypocrite or not.
 
Mosey
2006-08-17 7:39:37 PM  
Thrag: Why would you want to purcahse something you already own?

Wow, that was so clever! (no not really).

So let me get this right, someone says "all X are Y" and claims they are "black and white" and it isn't even you, but you are so damn ra-ra-go-team for your side, that anyone who points that out, you have to take a shot at them too.

Good job! You really showed people how smart you are there.
 
Mosey
2006-08-17 7:40:43 PM  
Thrag: BTW, I'm just filling in the easy punchlines. I don't know if you're a hypocrite or not.

Well, in the future don't post updates like that when I am pointing out how lame it was.

/everyone is a hypocite sometimes
 
space_cadet_28
2006-08-17 7:42:21 PM  
once upon a time, the legislative wrote the laws.
 
peachykeen
2006-08-17 7:43:19 PM  
Right wingers are starting to scare me.

/used to be one
 
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