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(Drudge)   Today's "Politician Who Preaches About Global Warming, Then Leaves in a Fleet of SUVs" award goes to Barack Obama   (drudgereport.com) divider line
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Confabulat [recently expired TotalFark]
2006-08-16 1:42:43 AM  
I've often been amused by the mis-informed right-wing thinking that people concerned about global warming somehow are also demanding we ride bicycles everywhere.

There is such a disconnect there, it's hard to fathom.
 
Huskadoodle
2006-08-16 1:46:23 AM  
Well Confabulat

Why not expect that from everyone?

If Bicycles are inconvenient, it's alright to ride in a limo.
 
Confabulat [recently expired TotalFark]
2006-08-16 1:52:32 AM  
Huskadoodle: Well Confabulat

Why not expect that from everyone?

If Bicycles are inconvenient, it's alright to ride in a limo.

I commute 30 minutes one way on a good day.

Find me a Democratic candidate for any office that advocates the disuse of cars. There are some that certainly recommend we use them as sparingly as possible, but isn't that just common sense?

It's like every Republican gets in a tizzy because Al Gore flies in an airplane. Find me an instance when he argued against it? Is this how you dismiss climate change? By whining about what politicians are driving?
 
RobertBruce
2006-08-16 1:56:48 AM  
the fact that they could use more fuel effiencent cars rather than a fleet of suv's....makes a lot of sense.
 
katemac
2006-08-16 2:02:47 AM  
the fact that they could use more fuel effiencent cars rather than a fleet of suv's....makes a lot of sense.

Perhaps, but it is immaterial and an attempt to deflect the conversation.
 
vartian
2006-08-16 2:05:13 AM  
I am not a candidate, but I vocally and continuously advocate the abolishment of cars. Not everywhere, mind you, but I think in most major American cities, with proper planning, there would simply be no need for them. I haven't owned a car in four years and I am much happier for it, as is most everyone else on the road, I would suspect.

4 major accidents in 5 years that managed to total no less then 6 cars. All my fault. Granted, the one where I feel asleep and slammed into the guard rail of the King Street exit off 395 at 63 mph head-on was a fluke, but still...it is probably better that I don't drive :)
 
Abagadro
2006-08-16 2:05:57 AM  
I would imagine the mode of transportation for a sitting U.S. Senator is mostly dictated by the U.S. Secret Service than the guy himself. Those armored SUVs are ubiquitous in certain parts of DC.
 
glenlivid
2006-08-16 2:15:15 AM  
Abragado: "I would imagine the mode of transportation for a sitting U.S. Senator is mostly dictated by the U.S. Secret Service than the guy himself. Those armored SUVs are ubiquitous in certain parts of DC."

Exactly. A senator is a high profile target for assassins and kidnappers, so I can understand them getting some priority treatment. The members of Metallica, on the other hand, can go f*ck themselves.

/just hates celebrities in general; no special hate for metallica
 
rockhound [TotalFark]
2006-08-16 2:16:50 AM  
Because a senator would look stupid in a civic full of bodyguards.
 
7of7
2006-08-16 2:29:03 AM  
rockhound: Because a senator would look stupid in a civic full of bodyguards.

I agree with all that has been said in defense of Obama. However, I kinda hope for the day someone comes along and does ride around in a Civic or a Saturn Ion. I just can't shake the impression that the people in our government have never seen the reality most of us live. I've never seen a senator who isn't independently wealthy. I've never heardr of one whose kids have to worry about the price of college or whose family needs to shop at Goodwill to survive. These people just don't represent any of us.
 
Confabulat [recently expired TotalFark]
2006-08-16 2:31:56 AM  
7of7: I've never seen a senator who isn't independently wealthy.

Can you even become a senator without it?
 
Huskadoodle
2006-08-16 2:36:24 AM  
Well Confabulat

Why not expect that from everyone?

If Bicycles are inconvenient, it's alright to ride in a limo.

If it's alright for one person, it must be alright for all.

Same question.

Al Gore is no Ed Begley
 
Confabulat [recently expired TotalFark]
2006-08-16 2:44:25 AM  
Huskadoodle: If it's alright for one person, it must be alright for all.

Why? Like was pointed out, I'm sure the Secret Service has more to do with the vehicles chosen than the candidates.

This line of arguing is just a way of distracting from the real issue.

If global warming realists really did drive around in little Priuses, they'd just be called pansies. It's a no-win situation, when you have people who refuse to acknowledge the possibility of the subject, so they distract themselves like this. It's not very impressive thinking.
 
Croooow!
2006-08-16 2:44:36 AM  
Huskadoodle: Al Gore is no Ed Begley

That actually going to be his campaign slogan for the 2008 election.

"Al Gore: He's no Ed Begley"
 
7of7
2006-08-16 2:50:24 AM  
Huskadoodle: If it's alright for one person, it must be alright for all.

So you're saying since I need a 1 ton truck to tow a 44' trailer for work it's ok for soccer moms to drive their kids around town in a jacked up F-350?
 
Huskadoodle
2006-08-16 2:53:40 AM  
Some people talk and others walk.

Ed is a man who walks the walk.

I respect that.
 
MrWhipee
2006-08-16 2:56:00 AM  
Croooow!: That actually going to be his campaign slogan for the 2008 election.

"Al Gore: He's no Ed Begley"

Finally.. A platform I can get behind.
 
Huskadoodle
2006-08-16 3:00:14 AM  
7of7 :I need a 1 ton truck to tow a 44' trailer for work


So you are trying to suggest that Al Gore could not do his buisiness without a limo and entourage?
 
7of7
2006-08-16 3:05:35 AM  
Huskadoodle: So you are trying to suggest that Al Gore could not do his buisiness without a limo and entourage?

Yeah, I'd say that's pretty accurate. Imagine the logistics of fitting a several member secret service team as well as advisors into a Honda Civic. I'd appreciate it if he used a bio-diesel SUV or something, but you know as well as I do that there's no way he could do what he does if he were driving around in a Honda Civic.
 
MrWhipee
2006-08-16 3:13:38 AM  
7of7: . Imagine the logistics of fitting a several member secret service team as well as advisors into a Honda Civic

I'm imagining it.. I'd have to, because ex-vice presidents do not have secret service protection when they leave office.
 
Huskadoodle
2006-08-16 3:14:18 AM  
It's okay, belive what you want. I live in the dreaded south and I do not know of one mother who drives their child to school in a F-350 who does not also own a horse farm.
 
7of7
2006-08-16 3:22:55 AM  
Huskadoodle: I live in the dreaded south and I do not know of one mother who drives their child to school in a F-350 who does not also own a horse farm.

The dreaded south? Have you ever been to the dreaded west? Everyone here drives an F-350 whether they own a horse farm or deliver pizza. Maybe it's just Idaho. I know this is a screwed up state, but seriously everyone here drives some sort of combat vehicle regardless of whether they need to or not.
 
You're a Mean Drunk R2D2
2006-08-16 3:22:56 AM  
Does anybody have a problem with large vehicles that are full of occupants or cargo? I think when people complain about SUVs, they're complaining about the 90% of them that they see that have a single inattentive cellphone-equipped driver and nothing else in it.
 
Huskadoodle
2006-08-16 3:33:24 AM  
7of7

just Idaho.

Farm Terretory? How many vehichles do you want them to own?

and I seriously doubt anyone who ownes an F-350 delivers pizza.
 
7of7
2006-08-16 3:43:56 AM  
Huskadoodle: Farm Territory?

That's a misconception. The vast majority of people in this state live in suburbia but still feel the need for some reason to own massive trucks and SUVs. Since I drive around for work I find it really funny to watch the interstate in the morning and imagine the dollars floating up from all the gasoline being wasted by the single occupant Excursions stuck in traffic. The whole delivering pizza thing was a (bad) example. Most people who drive F-350s are dentists, accountants, and house wives.
 
Huskadoodle
2006-08-16 3:45:22 AM  
BTW 7of7, if you had said Exobohemith or Yukonstrocity I would have been more sympathetic
 
Shut........UP
2006-08-16 7:47:32 AM  
funny, when there was the same story about a republican (of course that one had pictures...) it was submitted 23,987 times and the left was foaming at the mouth each time.

No that its about the golden child, we should be more understanding.

farken hypocrites.
 
sigdiamond2000
2006-08-16 9:08:26 AM  
Shut........UP

funny, when there was the same story about a republican (of course that one had pictures...) it was submitted 23,987 times and the left was foaming at the mouth each time.

Which Republican was preaching about global warming?
 
Chariset [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2006-08-16 9:35:43 AM  
Yeah, Nampa is rapidly becoming a bedroom community for Boise, while Meridian is getting swallowed by suburbia. But down near Twin Falls where I'm from really is farmland, and you're more likely to see real work trucks there.
 
Jon Snow
2006-08-16 9:50:46 AM  
When did carpooling become incompatible with environmental improvement?
 
BigTuna [TotalFark]
2006-08-16 9:53:34 AM  
Shut........UP: farken hypocrites.

With sufficient generalization it's amazing how easily hypocrisy can be found.

(In other words, you're full of shiat. Or you're going mad from fear of "the left".)
 
I_C_Weener [TotalFark]
2006-08-16 10:01:47 AM  
Perhaps, but it is immaterial and an attempt to deflect the conversation.

I believe the word you are looking for is "material", as in Obama's a material girl.
 
Shut........UP
2006-08-16 10:03:16 AM  
"With sufficient generalization..."

With the exception of 3 or so farkers, I haven't seen any difference in them. so generalizations are fitting for that group.

"Or you're going mad from fear of "the left".)"

just the extremists hypocrites. There are still moderate democrats that have their heads on straight.

/I see we've gone lite and this is about obama not my feelings on modern American liberals.
 
I_C_Weener [TotalFark]
2006-08-16 10:04:59 AM  
SUVs get all the bad press. What about Cadilacs and Lincolns, and the bigger engined Volvo and BMWs? People want to biatch but they don't want to recognize that cars waste gas too. Its SUV envy, not conservation that drives the upset people.

And Al Gore could certainly make movies, and fly around preaching about Global Warming while driving a Hybrid.
 
anal brazil men
2006-08-16 10:07:14 AM  
Yes, polticians who advocate a particular policy would be more effective if they followed it by example. While Obama may drive an SUV, it doesn't necessarily hinder his argument. I think it's only fair to call him a hypocrite if he criticizes global warming and then later supports legislation which benefits oil companies (or something similar).
 
Shut........UP
2006-08-16 10:11:29 AM  
"Which Republican was preaching about global warming?"

I don't recall and didn't bookmark it. He talked about energy conservation (or some such thing), walked a few blocks and got into an SUV and the you can guess the comments he got.
 
Skleenar
2006-08-16 10:13:15 AM  
Since when is a single GMC Envoy a "Fleet of SUV's"?

Shut........UP: funny, when there was the same story about a republican (of course that one had pictures...) it was submitted 23,987 times and the left was foaming at the mouth each time.

No that its about the golden child, we should be more understanding.

farken hypocrites.

If I remember correctly, That story had traction because the Congressman (Hastert?) left a public meeting in a hybrid, then drove a couple of blocks and then switched into a SUV when he thought he was out of camera range.

Here, Obama admitted that he preferred SUV's himself, then left in an SUV.

Surely you can see a smidgen of difference between the two?
 
Skleenar
2006-08-16 10:14:52 AM  
Yup-

Hastert.
 
Skleenar
2006-08-16 10:16:20 AM  
Shut........UP: /I see we've gone lite and this is about obama not my feelings on modern American liberals.

Well, since your feelings about American liberals are based on cartoonish charicatures, I am glad that this thread is on a different subject.
 
Shut........UP
2006-08-16 10:21:13 AM  
"Surely you can see a smidgen of difference between the two?"

No, no difference. Both didn't practice what they preached. The difference is that the left will try to justify what obama did.

"Well, since your feelings about American liberals are based on cartoonish charicatures"

Nope based on 5 years of fark...

Now let's stop making this about me and get back to defending obama.
 
Skleenar
2006-08-16 10:22:43 AM  
With a quick glance to the TF queue, it appears that the talking points have gone out to smear Obama.

[image from img146.imageshack.us too old to be available]

John Dean was right.
 
Skleenar
2006-08-16 10:24:22 AM  
Shut........UP: No, no difference. Both didn't practice what they preached. The difference is that the left will try to justify what obama did.

Miss the part about the attempt to decieve on Hastert's part?

Or do you just think that deception is OK when the GOP does it?
 
Shut........UP
2006-08-16 10:30:16 AM  
"Miss the part about the attempt to decieve on Hastert's part?'

You mean like saying its an E85 ethanol vehicle when that make and model doesn't appear to be?

http://www.e85fuel.com/information/general_motors.php
 
Shut........UP
2006-08-16 10:34:10 AM  
bTW, I don't think what hasset did was any better.

I'm not a republican.
 
BigTuna [TotalFark]
2006-08-16 10:40:15 AM  
Shut........UP: With the exception of 3 or so farkers, I haven't seen any difference in them. so generalizations are fitting for that group.

If I were predisposed to kneejerk reactions, I would say the same about the right. But I know that for every one of you, tgot, HoV, etc., there are 2000 others with differing views, attitudes, and belief systems. Many of them make considerable sense compared to what you guys preach. But you're the loudest, so it seems from the outside like everyone thinks the way you do. Fortunately that's not the case, just as it isn't with the left.

But please, do go on about the Monolithic Left.

/I see we've gone lite and this is about obama not my feelings on modern American liberals.

Oh, my bad. I thought your post was something more than another passing snipe.
 
BigTuna [TotalFark]
2006-08-16 10:40:59 AM  
Shut........UP: I'm not a republican.

Of course not, you're a Libertarian like the rest of Fark's Republicans.
 
Shut........UP
2006-08-16 10:43:09 AM  
Nope, Not a libertarian because I believe that the government can solve some problems and, coincidentally, should raise the MPG standards per vehicle.

But really, why are youtrying to make this about me? shouldn't the discussion be about obama?
 
Skleenar
2006-08-16 10:43:53 AM  
Shut........UP: You mean like saying its an E85 ethanol vehicle when that make and model doesn't appear to be?

There are several things suspicious about that claim.

1. Was the vehicle identified correctly by the press?
2. Other articles refer to Barack's E85 vehicle.
3. Why couldn't the vehicle be modified to run on E85 post sale?
4. Barack has been a huge supporter of E85.

So who is attempting to decieve here, Barack or Drudge?
 
Shut........UP
2006-08-16 10:52:46 AM  
"So who is attempting to decieve here, Barack or Drudge?"

The aid would have been the one trying to deceive. Obama would have been the one who was a hypocrite.

Unless there were mitigating circumstance that lead to his needing to use a non E-85 vehicle at that time.

Just like there might have been with hassert. But the same deep exploration isn't extended equally on fark.

and drudge is douche.

/hybrid drive. heats home with alternative fuel and supports 99% of enviornmental laws (with the exception of kyoyo)
 
BigTuna [TotalFark]
2006-08-16 10:56:43 AM  
Shut........UP: But really, why are youtrying to make this about me? shouldn't the discussion be about obama?

I'm really just giving you a hard time but you did bring it on yourself with your 7:47AM post.

As for Obama, there's too much hearsay in that piece to know what to believe.
 
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