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(ABC News)   Cops shoot peaceful protester with rubber bullets and then laugh heartily about it afterwards, on videotape   ( divider line
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2006-08-11 12:51:36 PM  
Hahahahah. High-five for each cop.
2006-08-11 12:51:46 PM  
That woman seems really smart. Not suing the entire force for personal gain because of "one bad apple." She seems to realize the concept of personal responsibility. I commend her for not acting like a typical money-grubbing American out to make a buck. She wants examples made of them, but isn't looking to get rich off it.

Sad that this country uses money as the only way of assessing responsibility. It's sickening.
2006-08-11 12:51:51 PM  
Angel of Death

Supposing for a moment that this is true, being a real biatch doesn't warrant rubber bullets to the leg and head.

Someone may want to test this theory on filth, he/she seems like a total biatch.

\please videotape it
\\I desperately need entertainment
2006-08-11 12:52:23 PM  
2006-08-11 12:50:44 PM HotWingConspiracy
Too pussy for law enforcment or something?

Not enough money in it for me, you?
2006-08-11 12:53:39 PM  
Thanks, NYMoogle.
2006-08-11 12:53:48 PM  
Maybe I'm biased because my dad is a retired cop and I've pretty much been around cops my whole life, but I find that video quite amusing. I forwarded it my dad and all his cop buddies to see what their reaction is.
2006-08-11 12:53:55 PM  
Not only are these cops asshats but they are also poorly trained - rubber bullets are meant to be fired low, and to the ground. That way they they bounce and hit you in the leg/lower body, and not the head.

The sound of the guns firing the bullets is usually enough to scare people anyway.
2006-08-11 12:54:02 PM  
If she was black and male instead, the bullets probably wouldn't have been rubber. She is very lucky to be alive.
2006-08-11 12:54:09 PM  
HotWingConspiracy: "The civilian review board found no evidence of misconduct; so someone thinks the shooting was justified."

It's odd then that the cops are now apologizing.

Review boards = whitewash coontil the press gets wind of the situation)

I agree wholeheartedly. I worked for a civilian review board (in another city) for a time, and though we supposedly evaluated police actions with a "preponderance of evidence" burden of proof (i.e. all we had to do was prove that it was "more likely than not" that an action occurred), in reality, the entire process was structured so as to give the officers every benefit of the doubt. An officer basically had to screw up royally, and have no even remotely reasonable explanation for his actions, in order for an allegation to be substantiated.
2006-08-11 12:54:10 PM  
"peaceful protesters".

They always claim they're peaceful after they're caught throwing rocks and lighting cars on fire.

Not saying that's what went on here [cuz I haven't RTFA] but lets not be so quick to jump on the police.
2006-08-11 12:54:54 PM  
i didn't know who victoria snelgrove was, ehre's her wiki
2006-08-11 12:54:54 PM  

"Cops are nerds with Napoleon complexes"

Not nerds, high school dropouts...
2006-08-11 12:54:55 PM  
"Not enough money in it for me, you?"

Nah. I wouldn't get passed the mental screening. I'm not a sociopath.
2006-08-11 12:55:33 PM  
Pssssst. Upholding the law does not always mean you are doing the right thing.

If you are a police office it does....
2006-08-11 12:55:37 PM  
most cops i know are not of the high IQ level, they are mostly people who couldnt make it to a decent college and have kind of been forced into being cops. I have a few friends who are cops, and they just arent very smart. Its plain and simple!! MOST COPS ARE RETARDED...I SAID MOST
2006-08-11 12:56:09 PM  
Since when is protesting free trade ego-centric and clueless and all the rest of it?

A byproduct of free trade is sweat shops. Go to the library and pick up any book on free trade in the modern world. Pretty sad stuff.

It's not like this woman was protesting, oh I dunno, the unethical treatment of insects.
2006-08-11 12:56:24 PM  
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2006-08-11 12:56:33 PM  
Way to go cops!!!

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2006-08-11 12:56:44 PM  
Miami has to institute an IQ cutoff on their police force applicants. Setting it at about 75 should avoid this kind of problem.
2006-08-11 12:57:11 PM  
AHeitman: If you are a police office it does....

No, no it doesn't.
2006-08-11 12:57:21 PM  
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Farking cops!
2006-08-11 12:57:25 PM  

Good quote. In this case, it went down with a thunderous chuckle.
2006-08-11 12:57:33 PM  
The problem is that most police departments don't pay well enough to get good people. Usually, the only people they can get are those who aren't qualified to do anything else, and those who are in it for the power trip. And yet, they have the power to pretty much send someone to prison on their word alone. Great system we have here.
2006-08-11 12:57:35 PM  

Morally and professionally inappropriate, but who hasn't wanted to shoot a bunch of uptight holier-than-thou morons with rubber bullets?!!!

Amen Brother, A freaken Men
2006-08-11 12:57:40 PM  
damitjim: dumbass deserved the shot to the top of the head.

1. Cynical angle: I've just been shot in the leg by the police for absolutely no reason. Anticipating my lawsuit, I wait to get shot again and make even more money!

2. Pragmatic angle: I've just been shot in the leg by the police for absolutely no reason. They're obviously not doing things by the book, and they're the farking POLICE, so maybe I'm a little scared. Also, I've been shot in the farking LEG, so maybe it's hard for me to sprint off into the distance.

3. Principled angle: I've just been shot in the leg by the police for absolutely no reason. I have every right to be here and to speak my mind, and I'm not going to stop just because I've been shot in the leg unjustly. If they want to shoot me again, I'll be here cowering, making it clear that I'm a defenseless civilian, and they'll be exposed for the bullies and assholes that they are, which was my original point in coming here anyway.
2006-08-11 12:57:53 PM  

if a dog bites you, you don't try to pet it again.

I think you might want to think through that statement one more time. Or stop trolling.

If a cop punches you for not being the right religion, would you just up and convert? Wacks you for writing an opinion piece in the newspaper that bashed the corruption of cops? Shot you in the leg for demonstrating peacefully? Oh wait, that's the article.

That just might go down as one of the stupidest things I have read on fark. And I've seen the evolution and 9/11 conspiracy threads.
2006-08-11 12:58:03 PM  
Jake Steed: filthy hippies? This was an attorney in a business suit.

I loathe hippies as much as the next conservative, but that's not the case here.
2006-08-11 12:58:10 PM  
Still dressed for work in a red blazer, Ritter took to the streets with a homemade sign that read "Fear Totalitarianism."

Before long, she was caught in a barrage of rubber-bullet fire.

Ritter said police offered no warning before firing on protesters.

umm, did you read your sign? you weren't showing enough fear, you need to be on your toes at all times, you never know when the government's citizen control units are going to decide that you no longer have the right to free speech.
2006-08-11 12:58:31 PM  

yeah huh, it does so. it does it does it does.

Its called rule of law, its what separates us from old west violence and murder.

Whether or not the laws are correct are not for the police to decide...
2006-08-11 12:58:35 PM  
So let me get this straight...

peaceful protester=throwing rocks and bricks

OK, I can understand the outrage now.
2006-08-11 12:58:42 PM  
Sorry but these guys sound like they had gotten tired of a bunch of yelling, screaming, semi or non-employed jerks complaining about nothing...

You want to know a real hero who is standing up to 'The Man?'

Check this guy out:​SubSecti onID=121&S=1​55215113 167970.xml&coll=1​-continu es-passive-resistance-for-civil-rights-and-equal-parenting/
2006-08-11 12:58:42 PM  
itsmetamim is right . . . I've got lots of friends in the sherriff's and police departments here in L.A., and since it's the only job that requires NO EDUCATION and pays REALLY WELL, it attracts a lot of . . . people who don't read good.
2006-08-11 12:58:44 PM  
bdesign: There are thousands and thousands of cops out there doing the right thing every day

I keep reading people saying this in threads, but I've seen no evidence. I've known 3 cops personally, some family, who have all spoke openly about intimidating citizens, manufacturing evidence, etc. In my interactions with cops during the course of their job they've mostly proven to be ignorant of the law and immediately confrontational (with no justification). I ask you, where are these supercops that everyone keeps mentioning? I get the impression that the job its self attracts poorly educated power-trippers that have no interest in justice.
2006-08-11 12:58:46 PM  
It's just pitiful to see the comments of some people if shooting an unarmed, and peaceful protester is "cool"...

I think you are living in the wrong country. If you enjoy such things, please move to Pakistan/Saudi Arabia/China/One of the many African nations etc. where your fantasies come alive..where innocent people suffer and get killed by those who are supposed to enforce the law, to protect and to serve.

I just don't know what to long as there are pitiful people like you here who enjoy these things, there will be hundreds who would keep doing things like this. Now I'm beginning to understand the problem with this country. It's not those corrupted ones who are in power, it's people like you who laugh at things like this, and find them entertaining. It is truly a lost cause.
2006-08-11 12:59:08 PM  
From said "Peaceful" protest:

Police had several clashes with protesters and used pepper spray and tear gas against the crowds. Ten demonstrators had to be treated by hazardous materials teams, police said.

At one point, officers banging their batons against their riot shields pushed demonstrators up Biscayne Boulevard and away from the waterfront hall where the meeting was being held.

Earlier in the day, about 1,000 protesters confronted police and attempted to pull down a fence surrounding the meeting site.

Police later showed reporters materials they had confiscated from demonstrators, including rubber wrist slings used to fire debris at police, ingredients for makeshift Molotov cocktails, and containers full of urine and feces.

The protests, which did not have a city permit, drew participants from various groups opposed to an expansion of free-trade pacts.


I would be laughing my ass off if I blasted these people with RUBBER bullets. Pussies.
2006-08-11 12:59:09 PM  
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." -- George Washington
2006-08-11 12:59:09 PM  
We recently had some cops up here near Portland shoot an unarmed naked guy who was kinda freaking out.

It was ruled a clean shoot.
WTF? What was he going to do? Club them with his johnson?

It was in Sandy Oregon near Mt. Hood.
2006-08-11 12:59:27 PM  
Oh, and anyone whose brain operates on any form of logic that says that a person sitting down and cowering with her head down deserves to be shot in the head does himself deserve to be shot in the head.
2006-08-11 01:00:02 PM  
I can't wait until the first time protestors acquire rubber bullets and use them on the police...
2006-08-11 01:00:26 PM  
AHeitman: Whether or not the laws are correct are not for the police to decide...

And the Nazis who slaughtered the Jews were just following orders, right?

/Yeah, I went there.
2006-08-11 01:00:31 PM  
"Somewhere there's a fat boy hurting really bad"

OK, now thats funny.
2006-08-11 01:00:31 PM  
Pigs... they aren't sorry they did it; they're sorry they got caught.

Cops on this thread: I know it's illegal, but considering recent developments in the way the government handles protests, I don't attend without packing. Nothing personal, I know you're just doing your job, but if you raise a gun at me while I'm peacefully exercising my rights, I will shoot you... I will not wait to be shot to determine whether your firearm is "non-lethal". Remember that when your superiors tell you to go out and shoot unarmed civilians, because there are a lot of people of this mindset now, and it's the fault of the PDs for escalating it.
2006-08-11 01:00:38 PM  
I thought our right to protest was taken away by the Bush Administration? Damn cops must not have received the memo.

/rubber bullets SOUND funny, but probably hurt like hell
//they really shouldn't have shot anyone if they weren't getting out of hand
///if the crowd gets nuts (like most Free Trade protesting does) they should absolutely bulletize them
2006-08-11 01:00:39 PM  
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2006-08-11 01:00:47 PM  
Madheretic: shooting an unarmed, and peaceful protester is "cool"...

Nah, talking big on Fark is cool. It keeps (some) people from realizing that you're 14 years old, if only in the head.
2006-08-11 01:00:49 PM  
"Good shot, Lou."
-Chief Wiggum
2006-08-11 01:01:07 PM  
Assuming everything went down as was described, these cops sound like assholes.
2006-08-11 01:01:08 PM  
And remember, In the Hudson case it was ruled that we civilians no longer need exclusionary rule protection from the police. Why? Scalia wrote in his opinion...

"There have been "wide-ranging reforms in the education, training, and supervision of police officers." S. Walker, Taiming the System: The Control of Discretion in Criminal Justice 1950-1990, p. 51 (1993).

Another development over the past half-century that deters civil rights violations is the increasing professionalism of police forces, including a new emphasis on internal discipline."

Cops and criminals are flip sides of the same coin. They are not out there doing the 'right thing' every day. Power corrupts and all limits to their power are being eliminated. Cops are dirty pigs. Fark them.
2006-08-11 01:01:12 PM  
2006-08-11 12:58:03 PM tanager2
This was an attorney in a business suit.


A filthy hippie is still a filthy hippie regardless of what she is wearing. It was good of the cops to see through her disguise.
2006-08-11 01:01:25 PM  
brown25....i agree completely....they are all on some form of a powertrip!!
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