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2006-08-04 7:45:25 PM  
this looks like a "Top 10 things management does at work" list
 
2006-08-04 7:45:40 PM  
All ten reasons can be distilled down to:

The boss is a coont.
 
2006-08-04 8:00:38 PM  
6, 7, 9 and 10 are absolutely dead-farking on.
 
2006-08-04 8:15:21 PM  
5. Management constantly reorganizes, shuffles people around, and changes direction constantly.

9. Management promotes someone who lacks training and/or necessary experience to supervisor, alienating staff and driving away good employees.


I'm guessing this "Greg Smith" is self-published and works for Logoworks.

Speaking of logoworks, any Logoworks employees here? How about that bottom line? Figure out step 2 yet?
 
2006-08-05 12:16:42 AM  
I'm currently undergoing 3 (pay freeze when I can get more) 5 (constant unneccessary change) and 9 (relocation doubling commute).

However, the real reasons I'm looking for work aren't on the list:-

11. management force me to do my job a stupid way
12. management have moved my job away from what I was initially employed for
 
2006-08-05 12:51:07 AM  
Wow- That just described Elmendorf AFB 3rd Comm Squadron.
 
2006-08-05 2:23:36 AM  
2006-08-05 12:51:07 AM An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name

Wow- That just described Elmendorf AFB 3rd Comm Squadron.

Yes, but when I was stationed at Ft. Rich, I was amazed and pleased to discover that women at Elmendorf didn't have guards in the barracks, like we did.

Poor guys in Charlie company (ABN) had to hoist their whores in the second floor, by rope.
 
2006-08-05 4:04:05 AM  
Wasn't this one here like 2 days ago, or was that Digg?
 
2006-08-05 4:04:07 AM  
C'est farked?
 
2006-08-05 4:04:13 AM  
Thank god I am drunk or else I would be sober.
 
2006-08-05 4:04:21 AM  
11) moved my desk to storage room
12) have not received paycheck
13) stole my stapler
 
2006-08-05 4:05:15 AM  
already farked
 
2006-08-05 4:06:42 AM  
broken link, goes to "top ten things people who haven't made management piss and moan about"
 
2006-08-05 4:08:13 AM  
deevo is going to burn the building down.
 
2006-08-05 4:11:13 AM  
fizzarked.
 
2006-08-05 4:12:31 AM  
An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name

Wow- That just described Elmendorf AFB 3rd Comm Squadron.

That describes almost ANY military unit. People aren't fired from the military, and unless they commit some heinous act, they will be promoted. This makes all the middle and higher level management composed of people too lazy to find better work elsewhere. Hmm...not really a very good boss selection process.

I'm writing a book on the subject actually at www.cultureschange.com
 
2006-08-05 4:16:32 AM  
Link belly up!

Re-direct to David Letterman's site.
 
2006-08-05 4:17:20 AM  
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Suprise! You've been farked!
 
2006-08-05 4:18:41 AM  
totalsecurity: Poor guys in Charlie company (ABN) had to hoist their whores in the second floor, by rope.


Believe it or not, I've witnessed behaviour like that, and it was not pretty. Females are every bit as fissed for whores as males, and yeah - the rope thing is old news. Try bedsheets. Lot more dramatic. Of course, in the case of smuggling in males, the upper body strength thing makes it easy for them to climb up bedsheets. I imagine you people had to make a sling of some sort for anything over two stories. And in the case of females smuggling males, I don't know about you all, but not every female appreciates it. I once saw a group of females beat the living shiat out of a male that popped up inside the second floor barracks. Madness. I think the guy liked it, though. THAT'S how hard up everyone was, I guess.

Anyways, yeah - I agree with all those reasons for leaving a job, and would add one more. Lying. Having your boss outright lie to you, and then get pissed when you aren't happy about it. I had a female supervisor explain to me once that the reason why we were all having our bonuses cut by 60% was 'for the good of the company' and that the new bonus program that was simultaneously being enacted was going to pay out more. She actually had some sort of bullshiat graph that supported this, and it was abject bullshiat. The thing was, she knew it was bullshiat, and tried to make it look not like bullshiat so hard I thought her ass was going to shatter from the strain. This was like two weeks before Christmas, btw. I never felt so free as the day I removed myself from that company. It's one thing to try to get someone to swallow bullshiat, it's another to become annoyed when they choke on it. American companies have a habit of lying to thier employees. When this same strategy was employed in the companies Great Britain locations - people walked. American managers have a bad reputation overseas for lying. It's well deserved. How the fark are you supposed to ever trust your supervisor when you catch them out in lies?
 
2006-08-05 4:21:53 AM  
11. The server your company provides is woefully inadequate to do its job, and you're reprimanded for its failure.
 
2006-08-05 4:38:39 AM  
Can't get the link, but I think a more interesting list would be reasons why people don't quit jobs they want to quit.
Slave to advertising industry
Selfish spouse
Overextended on mortgage
Trying to keep up with more successful neighbors
Credit card debt

Haha just quit if you don't like it. Find something you like and live within your means. Don't dig a hole where you might have to put up with BS someday. Always be ready financially to give 2 weeks notice at the drop of a hat with a smile five minutes after the first demeaning comment by a manager.

/just did it recently
//have savings to live on for at leat 7 years
///don't date gold diggers
////happy
 
2006-08-05 4:42:21 AM  
11. Boss is a whiny, spoiled, socially stunted douchenozzle who deserves a cockpunch, a wedgie, and a Colombian necktie.

My, that felt nice.

/didn't actually RTFA (read the farked article)
//came this close to throwing his boss from a 41st story window today
///really needs to update his resume
 
2006-08-05 4:45:47 AM  
12. Tired of lugging dead bodies from the parking lot into the warehouse and then feeding them into a wood chipper.
 
2006-08-05 4:53:08 AM  
I quit my old job because it was EXACTLY like Office Space. I spent 10 hours a week in meetings and at least another 5 or 10 filling out internal paperwork. Seriously.

Now I work for a small but growing company where I do much more 'work' but there is much less hassle and bullshiat to deal with. I love it.
 
2006-08-05 4:54:36 AM  
SemperLieSuckah

Which is why I love the Air Guard. You can and will be fired for lack of copentence, inability to lead and not being able to work with/for others.

So if you are a major D-bag you will be removed from the service.
 
2006-08-05 5:11:16 AM  
13. to leave you behind
 
2006-08-05 5:15:41 AM  
Didn't RTFA (Farked), stole these from comments:

5. Management constantly reorganizes, shuffles people around, and changes direction constantly.

9. Management promotes someone who lacks training and/or necessary experience to supervisor, alienating staff and driving away good employees.


These happen to me on a regular basis, It's at the point where I need to setup my supervisor's email client at least once a week because they give her a new job title (and she has no clue how Outlook Express works).

12. management have moved my job away from what I was initially employed for

The dept I started out in no longer exists, I've held at least 4 "different" positions in 3 different departments in less than 2 years. Though my job description has changed, most of the people who worked in my original department refuse to alter the way we do our job. Since we are the only people here who know how it's done, management has let us slide by so far.

I would like to add:

11. Co-workers who wont shut up for 20 seconds.
13. Supervisor who sings to themselves while wearing headphones (note: Country music, at least an octave to high)
14: That urine smell at the entrance to the building.
 
2006-08-05 5:21:45 AM  
I love working in the television industry. Seriously. Anyone who's bad at what they do gets fired pretty quick. So your bosses and coworkers are people you can actually respect because they're just as good at their jobs as you are at yours. The only time you have to deal with morons is when you're dealing with people who aren't working on the broadcast side of things, i.e. the people who pay for your equipment, who all have office jobs with all of the problems we're all familiar with. If you ever watch your local team on the road and the television coverage sucks, you can blame it on the guys who've never been in a truck in their lives not giving us enough money to put on a quality production on the road.
 
2006-08-05 5:22:09 AM  
Reckless Insight: 14: That urine smell at the entrance to the building.


That fragrance is called "downtown."
 
2006-08-05 5:22:32 AM  
Site is farked. Anyone have a cache?
 
2006-08-05 5:25:54 AM  
DiamondSmasher I don't give a shiat about my neighbors, I don't have a mortgage, I don't have any CC debt, I don't have a spouse, and I'm not even sure what you mean about advertising.

I still haven't been able to save enough to live unemployed for seven years, simply because I haven't been in the job market for seven years.

What is your advice for a 21 year old who is working and going to school full time?

I hope it includes winning the lottery, cause thats my plan.
 
2006-08-05 5:33:14 AM  
DiamondSmasher: Always be ready financially to give 2 weeks notice at the drop of a hat with a smile five minutes after the first demeaning comment by a manager.

Yes, and when you have a job history of "3 months here, 2 months there" showing you're a job-hopper, it will be REAL easy to get another job.
 
2006-08-05 5:35:00 AM  
Reckless Insight: What is your advice for a 21 year old who is working and going to school full time?

Dont worry about it until you are out of school.
 
2006-08-05 5:35:23 AM  
Bukharin, downtown would be a blessing. I work in a place nicknamed Gunspoint
 
2006-08-05 5:35:27 AM  
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There are many reasons why good employees quit, most are preventable. From my years of experience as a consultant, I've identified a "Top Ten" list of reasons why people leave jobs:

1. Management demands that one person do the jobs of two or more people, resulting in longer days and weekend work.

2. Management cuts back on administrative help, forcing professional workers to use their time copying, stapling, collating, filing and other clerical duties.

3. Management puts a freeze on raises and promotions, when an employee can easily find a job earning 20-30 percent more somewhere else.

4. Management doesn't allow the rank and file to make decisions or allow them pride of ownership. A visitor to my website E-mailed me a message that said, "Forget about the "professional" decisions-how about when you can't even select the company's holiday card without the President rejecting it for one of his own taste?"

5. Management constantly reorganizes, shuffles people around, and changes direction constantly.

6. Management doesn't have or take the time to clarify goals and decisions. Therefore, it rejects work after it was completed, damaging the morale and esteem of those who prepared it.

7. Management shows favoritism and gives some workers better offices, trips to conferences, etc.

8. Management relocates the offices to another location, forcing employees to quit or double their commute.

9. Management promotes someone who lacks training and/or necessary experience to supervisor, alienating staff and driving away good employees.

10. Management creates a rigid structure and then allows departments to compete against each other while at the same time preaching teamwork and cooperation.

Interesting, isn't it -- that all ten factors begin with the phrase "Management...." Interesting, too, just how many of these high-turnover factors are preventable? My retention survey confirmed the truth of the saying, "Employees don't quit their companies, they quit their bosses." Thirty five percent of the respondents answered yes to the question, Was the attitude of your direct supervisor/manager the primary factor in your quitting a previous job?

Soft management skills-people skills-are the critical element in battling high turnover and creating a high-retention workforce or what I call, "retentionship."
 
2006-08-05 5:42:53 AM  
Reckless Insight: Bukharin, downtown would be a blessing. I work in a place nicknamed Gunspoint


lol.
from your link:
"Houston Architecture Info Forum -> Is Dallas A Beautiful City? I don ' t think Gunspoint is something I would like to see when flying over..."
 
2006-08-05 5:45:38 AM  
Because I sit 3 feet from the "Laughing-Guy"

It's a quiet recording so you may want to turn your volume up. He does this ALL DAY LONG.
 
2006-08-05 5:52:01 AM  
Analogy: Anyone who's bad at what they do gets fired pretty quick. So your bosses and coworkers are people you can actually respect because they're just as good at their jobs as you are at yours. The only time you have to deal with morons is when you're dealing with people who aren't working on the broadcast side of things


I take it that you work in a non union shop. The station that I worked at before was non union and everyone was on top of things and we rarely had any problems. The one that I work for now is union and owned by a major conglomerate that has hundreds of committees for every single decision. Between the incompetence of the night engineer (today he rewired the microwave in the break room so that it burns popcorn in less then 30 seconds) and the inability to fire the afternoon tape operate (he has brain damage from a car accident several years ago and now he is not able to do any thing correctly so when I come in at night I spend the entire time between the 6 and 10 news fixing all the things that he messed up in the morning)

I am absolutely amazed that the station is still standing when I go to work at night.

I am just building my resume at this place trying to stay sane while in the middle of a three ring circus, but I guess that's what mid market stations are made for.
 
2006-08-05 5:53:08 AM  
Link doesn't work.
 
2006-08-05 5:57:20 AM  
Bukharin, I've never actually taken notice of how it looks from the sky, but I bet it smells better. I doubt a .45 could take out a plane too, thats always a plus.

Back to the article though, there are a few good things about my job: I can browse Fark all night and no one cares, my direct supervisor (not the one who sings) is aware of the fact that I'm looking for another job and is totally OK with it, I can work 4-10s... it's probably not as bad as I think it is sometimes.
 
2006-08-05 6:08:48 AM  
FTAGreg Smith is the "Retention Expert."
Water retention?
 
2006-08-05 6:17:55 AM  
I quit my job on Tuesday. 4 days without work, I'm qualified to run this particular list, despite my previous line of work being about 2 steps up from a stupid McJob.

1. Management demands that one person do the jobs of two or more people, resulting in longer days and weekend work. Check, I ended up covering everyone else's shifts because the boss never wanted to hire anyone new outside of her scheduled "hiring seasons" (of which there were 3 a year).

2. Management cuts back on administrative help, forcing professional workers to use their time copying, stapling, collating, filing and other clerical duties. Check, we couldn't get our usual money person (read: the only guy the boss knew that could use Excel besides me) to look over our stuff, so I end up doing 3 months of back inventory and payroll for the new guy.

3. Management puts a freeze on raises and promotions, when an employee can easily find a job earning 20-30 percent more somewhere else. Check, I loved the line from my boss "Well you're making more here than you would at McDonalds!"

4. Management doesn't allow the rank and file to make decisions or allow them pride of ownership. Check, what little authority I had in middle management was constantly overruled by the boss's daughter (who was also an asst manager), and lower managers ganging up to oppose decisions.

5. Management constantly reorganizes, shuffles people around, and changes direction constantly. Check, my duties changed on a weekly basis as people came and left and I never did get a written job description.

6. Management doesn't have or take the time to clarify goals and decisions. Therefore, it rejects work after it was completed, damaging the morale and esteem of those who prepared it. Not so much actually, I got thanked and commended for the work I did. Whether or not it was on the list was mostly irrelevant since it all needed to be done anyways.

7. Management shows favoritism and gives some workers better offices, trips to conferences, etc. Check times a million! See earlier reference to boss's daughter. In addition, factor the boss's sexual preference towards certain individuals in line for my position.

8. Management relocates the offices to another location, forcing employees to quit or double their commute. Only once, and it was the same distance away as the previous location so I'll put a no on this one too.

9. Management promotes someone who lacks training and/or necessary experience to supervisor, alienating staff and driving away good employees. Holy shiat check! Even after leaving a friend told me that 3 people needed to be promoted to fill the job I left behind. All less qualified than a chimpanzee to do said jobs I might add.

10. Management creates a rigid structure and then allows departments to compete against each other while at the same time preaching teamwork and cooperation. Not so much at my workplace, but I imagine its a problem at a lot of places.

7/10, looks like I made a good move in leaving.

Now my question is what will anybody do to fix any of these problems in any field at any job? The answer is nothing because there is no money to be made in the solutions to the problem. In management's eyes, there is no problem since there is no money associated with a solution.
 
2006-08-05 6:17:58 AM  
NeoMatrix: Yes, and when you have a job history of "3 months here, 2 months there" showing you're a job-hopper, it will be REAL easy to get another job.

Oh yes -- much better to stay with a crappy job. Live in fear and despair, that's what I say! It encourages loyalty! (I mean, on your part; loyalty is for you, not them.)
 
2006-08-05 6:38:59 AM  
Where in this list is 'this job pays crap'? Only reason I quit my job earlier this week. I love working there, it just doesn't pay jack, so I quit.
 
2006-08-05 7:03:37 AM  
Yesterday was the last day that I have to sit near the "office comedian", thankfully. You know the guy; constantly quotes TV shows or movies (usually the same few quotes, over & over again), or farking commercials (I had it up to here with his current Man-Law obsession), sings bad 80's pop songs, and generally believes that he's God's gift to comedy.

Since I happen to know (and occasionally work with) a few professional comedians, and therefore my standards are a wee bit higher in this regard, this guy's schtick got old real fast. Even if that weren't the case, I'm pretty sure he would still annoy the crap out of me.

10. Management creates a rigid structure and then allows departments to compete against each other while at the same time preaching teamwork and cooperation.

This one describes my old place of employment perfectly. I likened it to feudalism. Yes, let's have four different departments (all with completely different methods of doing things and all mutually incompatible of course) try to do one thing, get it wrong more often than not, and then blame the whole mess on the lowly workers. Because they needed to be more stressed out than they already were.

Speaking of stress, isn't it interesting how often you'll hear things like, "it's a fast paced, stressful environment" said with pride? As if to say, yeah we created this very stressful environment, and you need to learn to love it! Don't you love stress? Isn't it great? What's wrong with you that you don't love stress like we do? What are you, some kind of communist, hippy-loving freak?

I've experienced all ten of the items on that list. And faethe brought up a good point about the lying managment culture we have here in the U.S. I now take it as a given that I will be lied to by managers, pretty much on a daily basis. One of the lies going in to my current job was "we believe in the health and well-being of our employees". Uh-huh. Sure.

And why do companies even bother with mission statements? They're never even close to accurate. I'll give you the real mission statement for every corporation: "To get our greedy little mitts on as much money as possible!" And of course, to give as little of it as possible to the people doing the actual work.

Ok, I guess I'm done ranting for now. Now get back to work!
 
2006-08-05 7:07:40 AM  
Besides, jobhopping is easy.

"Why did you leave your last job?"

"Boss's brother/nephew/daughter wanted work, next day my job became 'vacant'."

"And the one before that?"

"The boss told our entire division we weren't needed. The place folded three weeks later."

"And the one before that."

"They never told us. The place was just padlocked when we turned up, and all of the numbers to headquarters came up disconnected."

"And - ?"

"The CEO moved the company to the other side of the country."

"..."

"The one before that? The building was shut down by the health inspectors."

"Sorry, you said your name was -?"

"Fred Bloggs. But my friends call me Lucky."
 
2006-08-05 7:09:35 AM  
jay_vee [TotalFark]

However, the real reasons I'm looking for work aren't on the list:-

11. management force me to do my job a stupid way


Ouch -- I'm a boss who makes people to their job in a stupid way. Let me explain:

I run a small business where finding customers is easy, but finding good customers is hard. One way I do it is flyers through doors. From the point of view of delivery staff, the best way is to do a main street ducking into side streets as they come across them. My way is to do a block at a time. While my way generates useful information about whether that block would be useful to return to, their way is much, much faster.

I explain why I dwant it done in a 'stupid' way, but some people just don't want to agree...
 
2006-08-05 7:23:26 AM  
Top ten reasons? Without even glancing at a list, I've got at least 50 to quit mine. Unfortunately, I'm jello n kool aid poor at the moment, so I'm stuck with it until I get another one.

If I could find time to even farking interview for any.
 
2006-08-05 7:26:32 AM  
9. Management promotes someone who lacks training and/or necessary experience to supervisor, alienating staff and driving away good employees.

Twice now I have had to train the asshole who's going to be my "new boss". I've been doing my job well for three years, I take over when anyone's on vacation, I was told when I started that eventually I would be at this position that I'm now training 20-something-yr-old college grads for -- they have no experience, no qualifications other than the sheepskin, and absolutely no respect for me.

The first "boss" couldn't hack it, had a nervous breakdown and quit in tears. This second one, he's already had two instances of lying to our owner's face about stuff he's done, and gotten caught both times. I was brought in on the second time and told "watch him, make sure he doesn't get into trouble". What, I'm a babysitter now too? (The owner is a softie; won't fire you unless you burn the place down, and even then you'd probably get off with a warning.)

Get a college degree, kids, that's all I can say.
 
2006-08-05 7:26:53 AM  
Should be on the list and I think someone mentioned the relocation thing. But my last company wanted to move it's support center to FL and didn't want to move all of it's techs. So they got us together and announced our jobs were moving and we were welcomed to reaply for em. Was nice and didn't burn the bridge but as far as I was concerned they could get fooked.
 
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