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(National Review)   Tel Aviv could be in flames and I'm not sure it would push Gibson's sordid little tale off the front pages   (article.nationalreview.com) divider line
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2006-08-02 7:55:06 AM  
Things have reached a pretty pass when reports of a celebrity's drunken misbehavior and anti-Semitic rants are treated as bigger news than an actual war in Israel.


Pardon my ignorance, I thought the actual war was in Lebanon.
 
2006-08-02 10:04:39 AM  
NrO TRUTH
 
2006-08-02 10:08:28 AM  
Mel's a douche. Hezbollah are douches. Mel's a Hezzbollah.
 
2006-08-02 10:13:39 AM  
Oh the Jew-manity.

/meh
 
2006-08-02 10:13:43 AM  
Does anyone know if it's true that Gibson was supposed to have some Holocaust show on ABC soon? I heard it was cancelled or something.
 
2006-08-02 10:14:03 AM  
2006-08-02 07:55:06 AM binnster




Pardon my ignorance, I thought the actual war was in Lebanon.


They don't count.
 
2006-08-02 10:14:16 AM  
Those tapes on youtube in 3.....2......1.....
 
2006-08-02 10:14:29 AM  
Tel Aviv could be in flames and it would be a sordid little tale.
 
2006-08-02 10:16:07 AM  
Fighting in the Middle East is only news when it actually stops.
 
2006-08-02 10:17:03 AM  
With the exception of two sentences in the first paragraph, this article is un-flameworthy and boring.

But it's from the New Republic... quick, greenlight greenlight!
 
2006-08-02 10:17:10 AM  
But he's a celebrity, submitter!

\::bows his head and prays to the ghost of Aaron Spelling::
\\just kidding... Spelling was evil....
 
2006-08-02 10:17:26 AM  
SMO-KING-GUN!!! SMO-KING-GUN!!!
 
2006-08-02 10:17:44 AM  
STFU NRO & GBTW
 
2006-08-02 10:19:22 AM  
It appears NRO gets all of its news from Fark.

They should try Air America--hardly any references to Mel except for the passing joke here or there.
 
2006-08-02 10:19:31 AM  
Is Tel Aviv in flames?

Is Beirut?
 
2006-08-02 10:19:40 AM  
[image from img358.imageshack.us too old to be available]

Mel, is that you??

Just kidding. It's is amazing that you can be called a hate monger for saying something bad about the Jew, but you can kill them for decades and they call you freedom fighters.
 
2006-08-02 10:19:43 AM  
Uh, ya...see the news has moved on. You know how it works, you get a few days, they get bored and move on the the next subject.

Nothing new, nothing to see, same ol' lame ol' crappy media.
 
2006-08-02 10:20:27 AM  
The war is in both places, considering Hezbollah is constantly firing missiles into Israel and kidnapped two Israeli soldiers from Israel. Lebanon is certainly taking more damage than Israel, but the whole objective of war is killing more of them than they kill of you. This could have been over real fast if Hezbollah weren't purposefully hiding behind civilians.
 
2006-08-02 10:21:13 AM  
binnster:

I'm sure the Israelis who are hiding out in shelters, and those whose friends and relatives are dying from un-ending, random and un-targetted rocket attacks would disagree that this war is only in Lebanon.
 
2006-08-02 10:22:37 AM  
FTA:

There may be surprises in the subplots, but from here the story will follow an utterly predictable arc. When the curtain fell to conclude Act I, the audience had been transfixed by Gibson's sudden freefall into anguished madness. Oh, how they love to see the high and mighty brought low and desperate.

/crossing fingers and holding out for Cheney
 
2006-08-02 10:23:00 AM  
What j0ndas said.
 
2006-08-02 10:25:15 AM  
He chose a very interesting pseudonym; if I''m not mistaken, it's a reference to One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest -

"Where'd you hear that?" "Jack Dunphy told me." "Jack Dunphy's full of shiat." "Right! Full of shiat!"
 
2006-08-02 10:27:25 AM  
Bring it on, I'll be waiting with a bag of marshmallows.
/security in numbers FTW
 
2006-08-02 10:29:46 AM  
The hundreds of Lebanese that have died, along with the million or so Israelis that have been living in bomb shelters for the past few weeks aren't celebrities. Therefore, they do not count.
 
2006-08-02 10:31:06 AM  
What j0ndas said.
 
2006-08-02 10:31:39 AM  
Conveniently unmentioned by the NRO: Both Mel and Lebanon are doing a great job of keeping Iraq out of the news.

(Not to mention the way we've screwed up Afghanistan - the war we should have been fighting all along - by going to Iraq.)

/B-but...Mel Gibson!
 
2006-08-02 10:32:51 AM  
/so mad I didn't close my tags. Grr, even.
 
2006-08-02 10:34:00 AM  
boot20
Uh, ya...see the news has moved on. You know how it works, you get a few days, they get bored and move on the the next subject.

Nothing new, nothing to see, same ol' lame ol' crappy media.


Yep. Today is Hillary Duff's media day. Tomorrow it'll be Larry the Cable Guy.
 
2006-08-02 10:34:54 AM  
Just because someone is mentioned more than you would prefer does not mean they have "dominated" another story.

Case in point. The Israeli/Hezbollah conflict HAS dominated the war in Iraq. Coverage of one is down due to the existance of the other.

Stop being so sad. The mighty have not fallen, you were just informed they were less mighty than you thought. And if members of my mother's congregation are reading this, I'm sorry I told you about Mel Gibson's Uber-exclusive church that you would not be invited to for worship. I didn't think it would make you cry. I'm sorry.
 
2006-08-02 10:45:15 AM  
I am still trying to figure out how Mel hurt the Jewish people. Fark 'em if they can't take a joke.

/realizes Mel was utterly serious
//he's an asshole
///who cares what he has to say
 
2006-08-02 10:45:23 AM  
You know, the Mel Gibson incident was worth about a blip on the radar. It still boils down to a person, under the influence, doing something stupid (driving), and, whether we or anybody likes it or not, what he said is still his own free speech and he has to live up to it.

As to whether it is still newsworthy? Only on Enteratinment Tonight.

CNN and the rest need to move on, get a life, and give us back ours. I've heard worse statements come out of the mouths of Jessie Jackson and Louis Farakhan, yet they never seem to be called to task for them.
 
2006-08-02 10:46:45 AM  
Mel Gibson, Kyle, Mel Gibson.
 
2006-08-02 10:48:01 AM  
I find it mysterious that many who justify the actions of hezbollah and hamas are apparently up in arms about mel gibson allegedly saying some stupid stuff about jews while drunk.

Ohhh... but it was anti semitic!

/now I understand
 
2006-08-02 10:48:19 AM  
It's Fox News and the talk radio shows that seem to be fixated on Gibson.
 
2006-08-02 10:49:28 AM  
2006-08-02 10:48:01 AM BlindMan

I find it mysterious that many who justify the actions of hezbollah and hamas are apparently up in arms about mel gibson allegedly saying some stupid stuff about jews while drunk.

Ohhh... but it was anti semitic!

/now I understand


What?
 
2006-08-02 10:51:32 AM  
Well, there HAVE been at least

18 Fark headlines

approved (greenlighted) concerning Mel Gibson's sordid little tale since it happened, so this headline is not that far off.

/drtfa

---

I found 15 alone on the entertainment tab, and several that aren't on the entertainment tab, including:

*This headline (Tel Aviv),

Rebel leader on Sri Lankan civil war: "The war has begun." Put in a call to Mel Gibson to figure out how the Jews started this one

Jewish community outrage over kids' TV news interpretation of Middle East crisis. Presenter may have been Mel Gibson in bear costume, we're not sure
.

/why this last one is not on the entertainment tab, I don't know.
 
2006-08-02 10:51:54 AM  
The whole thing is maddening. Gibson has been front page news for 3 days now, yet there is virtually zero coverage of Bush's push for laws allowing him to 'disappear' people in the US, including US citizens. Liberal media indeed.

Linky here.
 
2006-08-02 10:57:33 AM  
Gibson said he was sorry for offending the Jews but the Jews have yet to apologize to Gibson for brutalizing Jesus.

Hehe, But seriously, Gibson does deserve an apology from all those people who mercilessly attacked him for merely wanting to make a movie about his messiah, therefore driving him insane with Jew hate.

American Jews didn't come to America to frolic with the Indian tribes. They came here to live amongst the puritan Christians who settled here first. You can't then forbid those who accepted you from depicting scenes from their religion.
 
c45
2006-08-02 10:58:29 AM  
Wow, this guy hates Mel. At the beginning the article was kind of an analysis of the situation, but then it just sort of boiled down to "Mel's a goddamn liar who gets special treatment". Or maybe it was aimed at celebrities in general.

And maybe Mel is; maybe celebrities are; but we don't need another article telling us that.
 
2006-08-02 10:59:31 AM  
Hell, Beirut is already half in ruins and it ain't on the front page anymore either.

Bottom line: most Americans could give a rat's ass about anyone else who isn't them. They'd rather read about celebrities than some war that they don't think affects them. News channels and newspapers aren't in the business of giving you the news and telling you what you need to know, they're in the business of making money, which means trumpeting whatever the masses are most interested in. This isn't new, and it isn't the 'liberal media' or the 'conservative media,' it's the media business, period. Whatever makes them the most cash is usually what they're going to do, especially when said media companies are public companies.

I'm amazed that people still get up in arms about this, it's been like this for a long time now.
 
2006-08-02 11:00:37 AM  
There's a sale at Penny's!
 
2006-08-02 11:02:35 AM  
Make that now 19 Fark headlines:

Mel Gibson urged to make a third apology, this time to the police officer he called 'Sugar Tits'
 
2006-08-02 11:04:29 AM  
I still don't see the big deal. Why does a no-talent hack who couldn't act or direct his way out of a wet paper bag get so much exposure? So he had some mildly not-boring movies a few years ago, why do we care about him now? It's not like anything he's done recently has been good.

This is just another over-stuffed celebrity trying to grab attention he doesn't deserve.
 
2006-08-02 11:04:57 AM  
20 Fark headlines:

Jewish group accepts apology from Mel Gibson. He says Jews aren't really "responsible for all wars;" just killing Jesus
 
2006-08-02 11:06:13 AM  
Hey! How come nobody ever called me 'Sugar tits'?

/Too late now.
//Over the hill.
 
c45
2006-08-02 11:07:34 AM  
2006-08-02 10:59:31 AM GQueue

A lot of it is probably that Americans don't care so much about other nations, but you have to admit that a large portion of the disinterest in the war is that for about three years Americans have been bombarded with media regarding the war in the Middle East. Yes, it is our ignorance to sort of lump the 'Middle East' together, and not think much about individual states/cities/regions/whatevers, but the media tends to perpetuate the lumping-together, and three years of 'MORE BAD STUFF HAPPENING' is enough to make anyone tired of it.

Therefore, when something surprising happens at home (i.e. something more surprising than 'MORE BAD STUFF IN THE MIDDLE EAST'), it's going to be bigger in the news. Because it's news: new. If Mel Gibson partied like Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan, if he was notorious for his hatred like Fred Phelps, this arrest wouldn't be news, it would be the same old stuff just like it is with Paris and Lindsay and Fred.

So yeah, it's ignorant of Americans to not care at all, or to care more about celebrities at home than war in another country, but it's kind of human nature, too.
 
2006-08-02 11:08:36 AM  
GQueue: Bottom line: most Americans could give a rat's ass about anyone else who isn't them.

This is a good thing, imho. We've always gotten ourselves in trouble when we decide to help people whether they need it or not.

As far as the US is concerned, foreign countries ought to only be considered as markets for our goods.
 
2006-08-02 11:09:50 AM  
Hey! How come nobody ever called me 'Sugar tits'?

I'll call 'em sweet and sour, if that'll help.
 
2006-08-02 11:13:54 AM  
Noam Chimpsky

But seriously, Gibson does deserve an apology from all those people who mercilessly attacked him for merely wanting to make a movie about his messiah, therefore driving him insane with Jew hate.

Wow. I made a joking post the other day about how someone will probably defend his actions by saying that The Mashin' of the Christ controversy "caused" him to hate Jews.

I was kidding. I didn't think anyone could actually make that argument with a straight face.

But here we are...
 
2006-08-02 11:14:17 AM  
That's because the liberal media hates Isreal and hates anti-semites. Wait, what?

Make up your minds already.
 
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