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(Yahoo)   Warren Christopher: "Why can't Bush just sit on his arse and let everyone kill each other in Lebanon, the way we did in Bosnia and Rwanda?"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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Sweaty Jerry
2006-08-01 12:48:36 PM  
Good point, actually. Why the fark do we have any engagement there, in the middle east, at all? Why not instead sit on our ass saying "Alright, you crazy farks can do whatever you want to one another, but if the oil spigot gets turned off/down, we're going to make life VERY hard for the lot of you."
 
blackminded
2006-08-01 12:48:39 PM  
'cuz we are "Israel's staunch and loyal allies."

/or something like that
//bullshiat either way
 
binnster
2006-08-01 12:48:49 PM  
I was going to comment about what a stupid thing that is to say, until I read the article and realised the quote is completely made up. The article itself does contain a load of crap, but it's Kristol's crap, not Christopher's.
 
jslicer
2006-08-01 12:49:28 PM  
Yep, William Kristol is a grade-A douchenozzle.
 
logistic
2006-08-01 12:50:01 PM  
Because Israel owns us, and they won't allow it?
 
Mr.Insightful
2006-08-01 12:51:10 PM  
The only DUMBASS is the submitter (and FARK greenlighter). Christopher is being criticized in this piece for saying Bush should get OFF his arse.

Oh, and last time I checked, the US did send military to and/or over Bosnia and Rwanda when Clinton was in office. Just more in a manner to make sure they stayed safe than to stick them in the middle of a civil war.
 
onomatopoetic
2006-08-01 12:51:24 PM  
Kristol on the other hand, thinks we should wage 3 or 4 different wars simultaneously. Since, you know, we have unlimited resources and a huge budget surplus...
 
mongbiohazard
2006-08-01 12:53:13 PM  
jslicer:

Yep, William Kristol is a grade-A douchenozzle.

If by "grade-A douchenozzle" you mean "one of the smartest people in the room" then yes, you are correct.


logistic:

Because Israel owns us, and they won't allow it?

What neo-nazi propoganda piece gave you that idea?
 
azxj
2006-08-01 12:53:17 PM  
If two groups are killing each other and the US steps up we're "policing the globe and shouldn't be there", but if we do nothing it's "wah, wah, wah... look at this tragedy, why didn't the US help out"?

That being said, there's no way in hell we should be helping Israel. They're no better than the rest of the wackos in that region. Glass parking lot. All of it.
 
hankhorsey
2006-08-01 12:53:58 PM  
Answer: Because the U.S. supplies billions in military aid to Israel every year. Sound like a fair fight to anyone?
 
dj4aces
2006-08-01 12:57:06 PM  
blackminded: 'cuz we are "Israel's staunch and loyal allies" biatch.

/Maybe I believe it... maybe I don't.
 
bdub77
2006-08-01 12:57:20 PM  
Israel is the US's staging ground for war with the Arab World. That's why.
 
dj4aces
2006-08-01 12:58:25 PM  
dj4aces: 'cuz we are "Israel's staunch and loyal allies biatch."

/Put the strikey in the wrong place... blast!
 
CHAZZZ
2006-08-01 1:01:43 PM  
"Yep, William Kristol is a grade-A douchenozzle.

If by "grade-A douchenozzle" you mean "one of the smartest people in the room" then yes, you are correct."

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Certified douchebag.
 
lordargent
2006-08-01 1:03:34 PM  
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?!?!?!?!?!?!
 
ceejayoz [OhFark]
2006-08-01 1:05:37 PM  
hankhorsey: Answer: Because the U.S. supplies billions in military aid to Israel every year. Sound like a fair fight to anyone?

I'd say that's the only thing keeping it fair, considering the hundreds of millions of often-angry Muslims surrounding Israel.
 
bdub77
2006-08-01 1:06:56 PM  
lordargent:

Are you implying that Drew is a grade-A douchenozzle?
 
NuttierThanEver
2006-08-01 1:07:06 PM  
mongbiohazzard"If by "grade-A douchenozzle" you mean "one of the smartest people in the room" then yes, you are correct."

Only if by "one of the smartest people in the room" you mean a room containing Terry Schiavo, Anna Nicole and the cast of Big Brother they yeah you're right. Outside of that narrow list I wonder what you're smoking.
 
KaponoFor3
2006-08-01 1:09:28 PM  
lordargent: ?!?!?!?!?!?!

Wow that is a scary coincidence
 
Programmer Cat
2006-08-01 1:09:45 PM  
Sweaty Jerry: Why not instead sit on our ass saying "Alright, you crazy farks can do whatever you want to one another, but if the oil spigot gets turned off/down, we're going to make life VERY hard for the lot of you."

Because I'm not the President.
 
TofuTheAlmighty [BareFark]
2006-08-01 1:10:32 PM  
NuttierThanEver: Only if by "one of the smartest people in the room" you mean a room containing Terry Schiavo, Anna Nicole and the cast of Big Brother they yeah you're right. Outside of that narrow list I wonder what you're smoking.

Nah, the room mongbiohazzard was referring to was the Oval Office, in which case he was right. And his bar was set no higher than yours.
 
antisocialite
2006-08-01 1:11:32 PM  
mongbiohazard: If by "grade-A douchenozzle" you mean "one of the smartest people in the room" then yes, you are correct.

I joined this argument to say that. However, my phrasing would be further along the lines of, "How can someone so intelligent be that mindbogglingly stupid?"
 
Shut........UP
2006-08-01 1:13:34 PM  
"Sound like a fair fight to anyone?"

why should it be a fair fight? One is a democracy the other is a terrorist organization.

Fair would for Israel to wipe them off the face of the planet.
 
mediaho
2006-08-01 1:19:30 PM  
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He always reminded me of the Steeplechase Funny Face guy.
 
helioquake
2006-08-01 1:25:23 PM  
NuttierThanEver: Only if by "one of the smartest people in the room" you mean a room containing Terry Schiavo, Anna Nicole and the cast of Big Brother they yeah you're right. Outside of that narrow list I wonder what you're smoking.

You just offended Terry Schiavo. Apologize!
 
mediaho
2006-08-01 1:32:24 PM  
antisocialite: How can someone so intelligent be that mindbogglingly stupid?

As fellow (former) neocon/PNAC signatory Francis Fukuyama said (quoting Daniel Patrick Moynihan), in reference to think tanks:

"There are some mistakes only someone with a P.H.D. can make."

Very true. Some people are so hellbent on demonizing "academics" and "intellectuals," it's these assclowns they should be talking about.
 
Saiga410
2006-08-01 1:33:45 PM  
Wow no wonder the last administration had such a poor foreign policy with guys like Christopher in control. The only think I really disliked about Clinton was the fence sitting on foreign policy that he did. I will take action instead of sending troops without ammo to a hostile area. Negotiating with terrorist does not work.
 
NuttierThanEver
2006-08-01 1:34:31 PM  
Dear Miss Schiavo, I apologize for impugn your memory by comparing your intelligence to Mr. Kristol's. I was referring to your ability to think clearly after your unfortunate accident, prior to your illness I am certain you were smart enough to realize Bill is a grade A douchenozzle.

Sincerely
NuttierThanEver
 
helioquake
2006-08-01 1:40:15 PM  
NuttierThanEver: Dear Miss Schiavo,...

*golf clap*
 
Dancin_In_Anson
2006-08-01 1:42:45 PM  
Is it me or does Warren Christopher always look like he's got a little piece of turd under his nose that makes him crinkle up like that?

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damageddude [TotalFark]
2006-08-01 1:42:55 PM  
. Why the fark do we have any engagement there, in the middle east, at all?

OIL!!!!

Because Israel owns us, and they won't allow it?

There are only something like 12 or 13 MILLION Jews, of which roughly half are in the Us and the other half are in Israel, in a world of almost 6 BILLION. How pray tell, can such a minority "own" a country the size of the US and yet still be under constant seige?
 
jslicer
2006-08-01 1:49:53 PM  
mongbiohazard: If by "grade-A douchenozzle" you mean "one of the smartest people in the room" then yes, you are correct.

Nope, not what I mean at all, but thanks for presuming me correct.
 
hankhorsey
2006-08-01 1:50:20 PM  
Shut........UP why should it be a fair fight? One is a democracy the other is a terrorist organization.

Newsflash: Lebanon is a democracy in which Hezbollah holds elected seats. That doesn't excuse Hezbollah's rocket attacks, just as nothing excuses Israeli occupation in the West Bank. Syria and Iran sponsor Hezbollah's bad behaviour; the US sponsors Israel's bad behaviour.

Fair would for Israel to wipe them off the face of the planet.

Genocide? Nice to see we've all learned the lessons of WWII, Rwanda and Bosnia.
 
Superjoe
2006-08-01 1:59:14 PM  
You can tell Kristol is smart because he answers every question with the same answer: "Blow it up."

I would've hated to be his math teacher.
 
Dancin_In_Anson
2006-08-01 1:59:19 PM  
hankhorsey: Lebanon is a democracy in which Hezbollah holds elected seats


So then since hezbollah is represented in Lebanon's government, Lebanon can rightfully be held accountable for the incursions into Israel?
 
The Ascended Daniel Jackson
2006-08-01 2:05:35 PM  
Sweaty Jerry: Why the fark do we have any engagement there, in the middle east, at all?

Because the land of Israel contains the origins of the retarded theology that 2/3 or better of Americans believe in. We can't have those dirty Ay-rabs prayin to their moon god, shooting up the Jeebus Torturarium and Wax Museum, or bombing the hill where Mary once (reportedly) took a Divine Shiat. Sacred ground...that's why we can't just let Israel tend to its own business. There are too many christians in this country that have a stake in what happens to that piece of land.
 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark]
2006-08-01 2:10:57 PM  
logistic: Because Israel owns us, and they won't allow it?


Nope, white male Christians still run things last time I checked.

/checks again
//yep, still the case, you are safe, I guess
 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark]
2006-08-01 2:12:18 PM  
The Ascended Daniel Jackson: Because the land of Israel contains the origins of the retarded theology that 2/3 or better of Americans believe in. We can't have those dirty Ay-rabs prayin to their moon god, shooting up the Jeebus Torturarium and Wax Museum, or bombing the hill where Mary once (reportedly) took a Divine Shiat. Sacred ground...that's why we can't just let Israel tend to its own business. There are too many christians in this country that have a stake in what happens to that piece of land.


It's all about preserving things for the Second Coming. I think it will be a dribbler. I hear the first one was Peter North quality.
 
Supercheeks
2006-08-01 2:24:27 PM  
What about Darfur?
 
The Ascended Daniel Jackson
2006-08-01 2:27:03 PM  
PC LOAD LETTER

ZING! :)
 
Shut........UP
2006-08-01 2:57:06 PM  
"Genocide? Nice to see we've all learned the lessons of WWII, Rwanda and Bosnia"

Hezbollah is no different than al-queda. No matter how much some on here want to legitimize them they are a terrorist organization plain and simple.

And if you consider it genocide to wipe terrorists off the planet then Hooray Genocide.
 
Lackofname
2006-08-01 4:37:12 PM  
Newsflash: Lebanon is a democracy in which Hezbollah holds elected seats. That doesn't excuse Hezbollah's rocket attacks, just as nothing excuses Israeli occupation in the West Bank. Syria and Iran sponsor Hezbollah's bad behaviour; the US sponsors Israel's bad behaviour.

Y'know, I bet the KKK have had a few people in elected office. By your reasoning, the black panthers could hold the US government responsible for lynchings, and proceed to attack trailer parks.
 
hankhorsey
2006-08-01 5:13:57 PM  
Dancin_In_Anson: So then since hezbollah is represented in Lebanon's government, Lebanon can rightfully be held accountable for the incursions into Israel?

Absolutely. Regardless of Hezbollah's political status, Lebanon is responsible for cracking down on terrorism within its borders, which it has failed to do. The problem, if you're Lebanon, is that you feel you have no alternative but to tolerate the terrorists. The Lebanese status quo is (was?) a stable, relatively democratic government. Taking on the terrorists means, I should think, civil war which might very well expand into regional war.

And if Syria, Iran and Israel are involved, then so are The US and, probably, Russia.

So it's fine to be highminded and say "beat down the terrorists", but when the consequences might be World War, maybe you ought to give a ceasefire a chance and see what international diplomacy can achieve.
 
stjohn
2006-08-01 7:54:09 PM  
Kristol's not that smart.. He's clever. There's a difference.

Those guys were called "the crazies in the basement" for a reason. This country doesn't have the time, resources, technology or will to enforce a worldwide Pax Americana. Peace will have to be achieved through means other than war.

Personally, I'm getting tired of this flaring up every decade or so. I think the US should stay out of it, develop an alternative energy program with all the urgency of the 1960's space race, and let those middle-eastern monkeys all fight it out. Last one standing on the rubble, give us a call. All the US citizens clamoring for Israel's support should get on the next plane and sign up with the IDF. They're gonna need all the help they can get if the US cuts off the feed. All the US citizens grousing about poor Hamas and poor Hezbollah can get on the plane after that one and sign up in whatever bullet-riddled ruin they use as a recruiting office.. Just don't get picked up by US forces, it's a one-way ticket to Gitmo, fighting for a terrorist org.

However, none of this changes the fact that Kristol is a neocon blowhard and should only be taken seriously as a villain in a bedtime story.
 
emilyek_1
2006-08-05 1:14:16 PM  
Well said, stjohn.

I agree with you 100%.
 
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