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2002-06-26 02:52:43 PM  
This should get an asinine tag.
 
2002-06-26 02:52:47 PM  
man, that thing was farking annoying to learn anyway
 
2002-06-26 02:53:05 PM  
Unfarkingbelievable!!!
 
2002-06-26 02:53:09 PM  
Oh shiat.

Duck and cover, people!
 
2002-06-26 02:53:10 PM  
Do I smell something burning?
 
NTF
2002-06-26 02:53:10 PM  
Can we get a hero tag.
 
2002-06-26 02:53:13 PM  
I gave it just that tag when I submitted this a while ago. Oh well.
 
2002-06-26 02:53:14 PM  
No, it makes sense, "One liberty, under God", what if I don't believe in God?
 
2002-06-26 02:53:22 PM  
Woohoo - Boobies! I'm gonna get a lottery ticket today!
 
2002-06-26 02:53:22 PM  
woah
 
2002-06-26 02:53:33 PM  
I think it should be optional. The kids don't have to say it, but can.
 
2002-06-26 02:53:36 PM  
YES!
 
2002-06-26 02:53:42 PM  
Wheres my gun?
 
2002-06-26 02:53:45 PM  
Say what you like, but this is correct and proper. The Constitution demands separation of Church and State, and God is Church, not State. This has nothing to do with the founding fathers' intent. Eisenhower was not a founding father.

Keep religion out of politics. Period.
 
2002-06-26 02:54:00 PM  
huh?....oh f.u.ck it.....
 
DNK
2002-06-26 02:54:02 PM  
Of cours it comes out of San Fran... Stinking Liberal yahoos.
 
2002-06-26 02:54:20 PM  
God bless the 9th circuit. :)
 
2002-06-26 02:54:49 PM  
I submitted it with a dumbass tag, myself. They're about to experience a smackdown from the US Supreme Court. Hehhehheh.
 
2002-06-26 02:54:49 PM  
Pff.. I never said it anyway.
 
2002-06-26 02:54:49 PM  
They finally did something right! It was assinine to add the "Under God" part and the author hated it when that was done.
 
2002-06-26 02:54:52 PM  
Just remove the "under God" phrase, then it will be fine. It does in fact violate the Establishment Clause.
 
2002-06-26 02:55:16 PM  
So, is just the phrase "Under God" deemed unconstitutional, or is the whole thing now banned (sorry, too lazy to actually read the whole article)?
 
2002-06-26 02:55:21 PM  
In Junior High I had to say it in Spanish every farking day.....


Yo promoto a la bandera de El Estado Unidos......
 
2002-06-26 02:55:21 PM  
soon, killing kittens will be declared unconstitutional. sad, sad
 
2002-06-26 02:55:21 PM  
One liberty, under God? No.
One nation, under God. The way I learned it.
One nation, indivisible. The way it was originally.

I don't live in a theocracy. I'm fine with losing the G-word.
 
2002-06-26 02:55:24 PM  
OK -so why not let everybody insert their own deity in and go ahead and do the pledge anyway?
You know like the article says: One nation - under Zeus, under Allah, under pants, under stand, I don't believe in anything, under Corvettes, etc.
Sure, it would be a bit cacaphonous for a second or two, but then things would cruise along nicely.

Hilary ensues
 
2002-06-26 02:55:32 PM  
HERO

Just a friendly reminder that the "under God" part was added only as the result of 1950s McCarthyism.
 
2002-06-26 02:56:23 PM  
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ( news - web sites) overturned a 1954 act of Congress inserting the phrase "under God" after the words "one nation" in the pledge.
It's interesting, because until I religiously attended Fark, I didn't know this. I assumed that it was originally written with this cr@p. Now that I think of it, it seems to flow quite well without it. Thanks go to you, boob-tube generation! Apparently the same generation that had to put "In God we Trust" on the money, too.
 
2002-06-26 02:56:23 PM  
You guys managed to do something right for once. I applaud.
 
2002-06-26 02:56:41 PM  
No, it makes sense, "One liberty, under God", what if I don't believe in God?

You don't know the pledge do you.

"One NATION, under God"
 
2002-06-26 02:56:41 PM  
One nation under Vishnu:

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2002-06-26 02:56:41 PM  
Thank holy jesus for the 9th U.S. Circuit Court.
 
2002-06-26 02:56:42 PM  
I learned something new from the article today. The original pledge did NOT contain "under God". It was added in 1954.

This is why it has been ruled unconstitutional.

If you disagree, substitute "under God" with "under Satan" and tell me if you find it objectionable.
 
2002-06-26 02:56:42 PM  
I pledge allegance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the republic for which it stands, one nation................indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
2002-06-26 02:57:09 PM  
From SFGate's article:

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the phrase amounts to a government endorsement of religion in violation of the Constitution's Establishment Clause, which requires a separation of church and state.

"A profession that we are a nation `under God' is identical, for Establishment Clause purposes, to a profession that we are a nation `under Jesus,' a nation `under Vishnu,' a nation `under Zeus,' or a nation `under no god,' because none of these professions can be neutral with respect to religion," Judge Alfred T. Goodwin wrote for the three-judge panel.

The appeals said that when President Eisenhower signed the legislation inserting "under God" after the words "one nation," he wrote that "millions of our schoolchildren will daily proclaim in every city and town, every village and rural schoolhouse, the dedication of our nation and our people to the Almighty."
 
2002-06-26 02:57:09 PM  
You dont have to take the pledge, you can sit down - its a freedom to take it or not. the court shouldn't be making it a law. SCOTUS will shoot this down
 
2002-06-26 02:57:09 PM  
Here's a link to the text of the opinion itself (It's a PDF, let it run for a bit. It'll pop up in a minute.)

http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/FE05EEE79C2A97B688256B​E3007FEE 32/$file/0016423.pdf?openelement
 
2002-06-26 02:57:10 PM  
The Pledge of Allegiance was the dumbest thing I ever learned in school. Eisenhower was paranoid.
 
2002-06-26 02:57:11 PM  
9th circuit out of San Fran......not a big surprise there. Social Dems....leftier than left.
They don't believe in God, but are fine with tax dollars paying for state workers sex changes.....go figure.
 
2002-06-26 02:57:22 PM  
img.fark.net

 
2002-06-26 02:57:25 PM  
Well now what are they going to do about "in god we trust" on every farking coin in the country?
 
2002-06-26 02:57:26 PM  
My bad, it's "under nation", been a while, obviously.

This decision was a good one, and people who disagree don't believe in the Constitution.
 
2002-06-26 02:57:27 PM  
Holy shiat... here it goes.
 
2002-06-26 02:57:33 PM  
This is out of the Ninth Circuit. The Ninth Circuit is regularly reversed by the Supreme Court. Not that this necessarily will, but if it holds up, it will be on different reasoning.
 
2002-06-26 02:57:36 PM  
At my school we never said the Pledge of Allegiance ever because of the "under God" part. People today tell me that it's unpatriotic that I don't know it. Oh well.
 
2002-06-26 02:57:40 PM  
Thank God!

Or, I guess, thank someone else since God is unconstitutional in this case.
 
2002-06-26 02:57:47 PM  
Religion should stay out of politics or pay taxes.
 
2002-06-26 02:57:59 PM  
I'm going to go burn my flag now. City ordinances be damned.
 
2002-06-26 02:58:00 PM  
The people who think that this is a country "under God" are not Americans in ANY sense of the word. This country is, and should be, neutral toward every religion.

This is a victory for America, and a victory for all real Americans.
 
2002-06-26 02:58:08 PM  
I think they should change it to "under Dirty Sanchez".
 
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