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(Some Guy)   Chicago Tribune's crack investigative reporters discover that the gas you buy for your car is made from oil that came out of the ground in the Middle East   (breitbart.com) divider line
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2006-07-29 6:47:15 PM  
Perhaps next we'll find out where babies come from?
 
2006-07-29 6:47:45 PM  
Cue pic of Ric Romero in 3..2..1...

I think this deserves the official "No Shiat, Sherlock" award.

/DRTFA.
 
2006-07-29 6:48:06 PM  
Romero!!!!!
 
2006-07-29 6:48:16 PM  
If he's a crack investigative reporter, then he's tracking the wrong kind of gas, right ?
 
2006-07-29 6:48:26 PM  
 
2006-07-29 6:48:40 PM  
And here I thought most of our oil came from Canada....
 
2006-07-29 6:49:47 PM  
WHAT:

WHO:

WHERE:

ON TV: (must be the new "WHEN" since if it ain't on TV, it didn't happen)

Yep, they got Journalism 101 covered pretty well. That's news, folks!
 
2006-07-29 6:49:49 PM  
Stop linking to...oh nevermind
 
2006-07-29 6:50:55 PM  
That's OUR oil. How it got under their sand, I don't know.
 
2006-07-29 6:55:56 PM  
Come on, valets, Foie Gras, that crazy alderman, that even crazier mayor, and now this story, we need a 'Chicago' tag.
 
2006-07-29 6:55:57 PM  
They also mention the crazy idea that it might actually be running out! Can you believe it!
Our way of life is non-negotiable!
 
2006-07-29 6:56:53 PM  
OK, that's it. I'm going to stop driving my motorcycle and my 4X4.

/for a while anyway
//times up
 
2006-07-29 6:56:55 PM  
Uh..no. It mostly comes from South America.
 
2006-07-29 6:57:20 PM  
Without having read the article...
Doesn't something like 90% of America's oil come from Canada?
 
2006-07-29 6:58:50 PM  
Er, that should be 90% of imported oil. The US produces a pretty sizable amount domestically.
 
2006-07-29 6:59:03 PM  
elbandito

Perhaps next we'll find out where babies come from?

That's in the book-review segment up next.
 
2006-07-29 7:02:28 PM  
Five posts, I'm dissapointed in you, Fark.
 
2006-07-29 7:03:27 PM  
Canada is indeed where we import the most oil from. I always found this interesting since listening to ME strife, it would seem we get most of our foreign oil there.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_i mports/current/import.html
 
2006-07-29 7:04:54 PM  
That Romerian recursion is great!
 
2006-07-29 7:05:03 PM  
mpfjr
Uh no, largest portion comes from Canada, last time I checked. Venezuela is signing contracts with China now...
 
2006-07-29 7:06:37 PM  
The environmental whackos need to tone it down.
We need to drill in ANWR
We need to drill OFFSHORE OF AMERICA, but the environmental whackos give money to the dEMOcrats to prevent this
We need to build more refineries, but the environmental whackos and the dEMOCRATS wont do that, either.

Its not so much the cost of oil but the lack of REFINERIES.

Hey wait a minute, didnt we attack Iraq so we can take thier oil? Umm, ok well where is it? Oh let me guess George Bush fixes the price of gasoline. Which gulf war was that again, the first or second?

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, hippies.
 
2006-07-29 7:08:53 PM  
neon9: They also mention the crazy idea that it might actually be running out! Can you believe it!
Our way of life is non-negotiable!


If we stick with that attitude we're in for a rude awakening.

We're never going to literally run out of oil. It is going to get more expensive in energy to extract it. New technologies will help flatten that curve along the way but I really do believe a universal truth is oil extraction is going to get more and more expensive as time goes on.
 
2006-07-29 7:10:15 PM  
Fecality: dEMOcrats

I didn't realize Dashboard Confessional was running for congress.
 
2006-07-29 7:11:43 PM  
So where does the 25% of U.S. oil from Alaska go?

About 1 million bbl/day passes through the Trans Alaska Pipeline, over 14 billion bbls since June 1977.

Then there's the rigs in Cook Inlet.
 
2006-07-29 7:14:41 PM  
[image from cigare1.fatcow.com too old to be available]
 
2006-07-29 7:14:53 PM  
I actually think this article might do some good since it puts things into perspective for people. For a country where less than 50% of people can find the Middle East on a map, anything that encourages people to better understand the issue is worthwhile, regardless of how simplistic it might seem.
 
2006-07-29 7:16:07 PM  
I saw a nice thread elsewhere that explained a sophisticated where by the US shields itself from possible oil embargoes like the one in 1972.

Countries like Australia will buy oil from *shocked* Iran and then resell it to the US. It's done so countries like Iran can tell their citizens "We sell no oil to Satan."

That's a very simple example it's actually pretty complex. I'll go track down the info. Or wait and see if this reporter is for real.
 
2006-07-29 7:19:01 PM  
Editor George Papajohn

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2006-07-29 7:24:20 PM  
"To nbing another little known fact about Oil, that the dEMOcrats will NOT TELL YOU, is that once oil reaches $80 a barrel, at that price you can synthesise (sp?) coal into oil.
And believe me that we are not gonna run out of coal for a LONG LONG time."

What a GREAT idea... lets up the co2 emmisions 3 fold (or much more) It's not like we have any coastal cities to worry about. Lets just continue to burn shait forever and not focus on ANY other option. I'm sure you'll be the first to move in next to one of THOSE plants.
 
2006-07-29 7:24:30 PM  
"the gas you buy for your car is made from oil that came out of the ground in the Middle East"

Nope.

The gas I buy for my car is made from oil that came out of the ground in Venezuela.

Fark the Arab gas overlords.
 
2006-07-29 7:25:35 PM  
Headline: "Pinhead Farker comletely misrepresents article in the service of dimwitted attempt at humorous sarcasm."

Because the reporter in question is actually just discovering that we get oil from the Middle East, right? Or perhaps the submitter is actually as stupid as he appears.


NoMessiahInHere: "...anything that encourages people to better understand the issue is worthwhile, regardless of how simplistic it might seem."\>
See, there are intelligent fakers.
 
2006-07-29 7:26:55 PM  
Just remember: Suicide bombers and flight training aren't cheap. If you drive a small car, and drive it less often, you're putting dedicated, faith-based organizations out of business.
 
2006-07-29 7:27:35 PM  
Andyc1444: "I'm sure you'll be the first to move in next to one of THOSE plants."

No, Im not poor.

So what is your alternative? Perhaps we should have no gasoline?
 
2006-07-29 7:29:02 PM  
US Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries) (clicky pops)

Canada
Mexico
Saudi Arabia
Venezuela
Nigeria
Iraq
Angola
Algeria
Russia
Ecuador
Kuwait
Colombia
United Kingdom
Norway
Brazil
 
2006-07-29 7:33:00 PM  
Therion

The gas I buy for my car is made from oil that came out of the ground in Venezuela.

Fark the Arab gas overlords.


Do you welcome your new, Communist South American overlords instead?
 
2006-07-29 7:33:03 PM  
poor Fecality :( Fark is supposed to be a bastion of partisian hackery by people whose interpretation of world status is best expressed via national 2 party politics ... with HTML!
 
2006-07-29 7:33:49 PM  
The article is already posted on the Chicago Tribune site. I found this portion of it very interesting:

What are the hidden costs of America's imported oil? The answer is complex. It may ultimately be unknowable. But this hasn't daunted the likes of Milton Copulos.

A tenacious economist with the National Defense Council Foundation--a right-of-center Washington think tank--Copulos spent 18 solid months poring over hundreds of thousands of pages of government documents, toiling to fix a price tag on America's addiction to global crude. He parsed oil-related defense spending in the Middle East. He calculated U.S. jobs and investments lost to steep crude prices. He even factored in the lifelong medical bills of some 18,000 U.S. troops wounded in Iraq as of March. (About $1.5 million each.)

Copulos is a highly respected analyst in Washington. And his exhaustive findings flabbergasted the Senate Foreign Relations Committee this spring.

The actual cost of gasoline refined from imported oil, according to Copulos?

Eight dollars a gallon.

When he isolated the hidden costs of Middle Eastern crude in particular, the price jumped to $11. This included a war premium that swelled the Pentagon's spending to protect all Persian Gulf oil to $137 billion a year. In a truly transparent economy, by Copulos' math, filling up Rodriguez's Jeep would run about $230.

Consumers don't dodge the bill for all these masked expenditures. Instead, they pay for them indirectly, through higher taxes, or by saddling their children and grandchildren with a ballooning national debt--one that's increasingly financed by foreigners. The result: Unaware of the true costs of their oil habit, U.S. motorists see no obvious reason to curb their energy gluttony.

"Gas isn't too expensive," said Copulos. "It's way, way too cheap."

Or, as he put it to senators, quoting the cartoon character Pogo: "We have met the enemy and they is us."
 
2006-07-29 7:34:53 PM  
howdoibegin: I remember bashing the hell out of Clinton a couple years ago, and they never took away my html.
 
2006-07-29 7:36:07 PM  
Fecality
We need to drill OFFSHORE OF AMERICA, but the environmental whackos give money to the dEMOcrats to prevent this

Near-shore drilling means lots of small oil spills + 'normal' heavy-metal drilling pollution. All it takes is one significant accident to utterly fark up (for years and years) all the beaches & fishing grounds within range.

Refineries usually have much tighter environmental controls, but have you read the article about the oil spill in the Mediterranean? shiat like that is why people don't want refineries or oil drilling in their 'backyard'.
 
2006-07-29 7:40:35 PM  
Do you welcome your new, Communist South American overlords instead?

Yup. Lesser of two evils.

If Canadian or American gas was available in Texas, I'd buy that instead.

Serious question - are there *any* companies anymore that sell only US domestically pumped gas?
 
2006-07-29 7:40:41 PM  
Fecality: We need to drill OFFSHORE OF AMERICA, but the environmental whackos give money to the dEMOcrats to prevent this
We need to build more refineries, but the environmental whackos and the dEMOCRATS wont do that, either.


Stop bringing facts into it!
 
2006-07-29 7:41:03 PM  
Malicious Bastard:

Well it's not a problem for fecality, I mean clean air and water should be only for those who can AFFORD it. No more leaching off the earth, The earth belongs to big business to do what they see fit with it.
 
2006-07-29 7:43:26 PM  
Andyc1444, whats your problem with capitalism?

Also no one wants to address the huge demand from India and China. You probably won't say anything bad about your communist chinese overlords.
 
2006-07-29 7:44:32 PM  
Fecality Detroit_Bob

Do you guys make time and a half for shilling on Saturdays?
 
2006-07-29 7:48:42 PM  
veedeevadeevoodee

US Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries) (clicky pops)

Canada
Mexico
Saudi Arabia
Venezuela
Nigeria
Iraq
Angola
Algeria
Russia
Ecuador
Kuwait
Colombia
United Kingdom
Norway
Brazil


There is oil in UK???11?!

I say those Limeys are ripe for an invasion.
 
2006-07-29 7:49:42 PM  
Fecality: Also no one wants to address the huge demand from India and China. You probably won't say anything bad about your communist chinese overlords.

Doesn't matter how prosperus those countries become, there isn't enough easily accesible oil in the world for a tenth of China's population to own a car and commute similiar to their US counterpart.

It used to be that you could find light crude so close to the surface that it literally pumped itself out. And you could put a match to it and it would burn.

Folks, the global demand for energy going up while easily extractable oil goes down is going to make for a bumpy ride. You people who bring politics into it aren't seeing the forest for the trees.
 
2006-07-29 8:04:54 PM  
Man...can't put one over on these guys!

Great piece of reporting! Pulitzer Material!

/sarcasm-o-tron asplodes
 
2006-07-29 8:11:41 PM  
The last oil I bought (olive) came from Italy.
 
2006-07-29 8:13:21 PM  
SomeoneDumb: The last oil I bought (olive) came from Italy.

The last oil I bought. She wasn't cheap:

[image from tvdance.com too old to be available]
 
2006-07-29 8:22:39 PM  
Fecality: We need to build more refineries, but the environmental whackos and the dEMOCRATS wont do that, either.

Its not so much the cost of oil but the lack of REFINERIES.


Maybe you should ask why the oil companies keep closing refineries instead.

I'll give you a hint, here's an internal memo from Texaco from a few years ago:

[image from rawstory.com too old to be available]

1. Memo indentifies surplus refineries as hindering profits.
2. Refineries begin mysteriously closing.
3. Oil companies see record profits.

Yep, must be those damn dEMOcrats again.
 
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