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(Some Guy)   John Kerry, this week: "We need to leave Iraq this year." John Kerry, 2003: "President Bush wants to cut and run from Iraq without finishing the job."   (cfr.org) divider line
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j10jep
2006-06-23 5:05:06 PM  
Bush lovers, for the past 6 years: "BLAH BLAH BLHAHAB"
 
Litterbox
2006-06-23 5:05:31 PM  
Um, not to defend Kerry, but things are just a little different now than they were then. Im sure nobody really expected us to still be in Iraq in 06.
 
Pale_Green_Pants_With_Nobody_Inside_Them
2006-06-23 5:06:58 PM  
Litterbox: Im sure nobody really expected us to still be in Iraq in 06.

Really? I thought so, and I supported going in. I am on record somewhere as saying we may be there 10+ years.
 
rppp01a
2006-06-23 5:09:45 PM  
Kerry lost, Bush won. Calm down.
God damn, instead of pointing fingers and passing blame- why not come up with some constructive ways to fix the problem.

Republicans: the party in power that can't get shiat done because they are too busy blaming everyone else.
 
SSP
2006-06-23 5:10:29 PM  
If we were told the truth by the crooks and liars in this administration, we wouldn't be there in the first place...
 
2wolves [TotalFark]
2006-06-23 5:11:38 PM  
Submitter is complaining about a member of the minority party that can't pass jack. It's must be soooooooooooooo difficult to be the leader in a one party rule system.

Lead or get out of the way.
 
GrooveMonkeyZero
2006-06-23 5:13:07 PM  
Yup. Its an election year, he lives in a blue state, and he's just trying to get the votes out. So, as he is a politician, he checks which way the wind is blowing, and he tells the public what they want to hear. I know, shocking.
 
Last One Left
2006-06-23 5:13:08 PM  
rppp01a: God damn, instead of pointing fingers and passing blame- why not come up with some constructive ways to fix the problem.

rppp01a: Republicans: the party in power that can't get shiat done because they are too busy blaming everyone else.

Erm.
 
dj4aces
2006-06-23 5:13:58 PM  
2wolves: Lead or get out of the way.

I use that term on a daily basis.
Usually in traffic... with a few expletives thrown in.
 
harryasaboy [OhFark]
2006-06-23 5:16:11 PM  
George Bush, May 1, 2003: "Mission Accomplished"
What's your point, submitter?
 
TheConvincingSavant
2006-06-23 5:18:46 PM  
We will be there in some military capacity for decades. Just like Japan, Germany, South Korea, etc.
 
rppp01a
2006-06-23 5:21:21 PM  
Erm

Yeah, I laughed at myself after I posted. Still a valid point.
 
BaconatedGrapefruit
2006-06-23 5:32:16 PM  
j10jep: Bush lovers, for the past 6 years: "BLAH BLAH BLHAHAB"

Well, that's all the closed-minded liberals hear, with their hands over their ears all the time.
 
BaconatedGrapefruit
2006-06-23 5:33:15 PM  
rppp01a: Yeah, I laughed at myself after I posted. Still a valid point.

You can directly contradict yourself, and still have valid points? Interesting...
 
wrytrzcrmp
2006-06-23 5:36:42 PM  
At'l do donkey. At'l do.
 
Bill_Wick's_Friend
2006-06-23 5:38:57 PM  
Well, that's all the closed-minded liberals hear, with their hands over their ears all the time.

No, I've been listening.

Back four years ago it was WMDs and a consistant use of Saddam's name and 9-11 in the same sentences over and over.

At some point that became the "old" and all I could hear was that the US came to liberate a dictator and secure the region.

Somewhere amid that I heard "mission accomplished" which I was initially told referred to the ship, but which we then found out really had been a slogan and banner commissioned by the White House. We were never really told after that what "mission" was "accomplished".

Today there's no more reasons to stay, but anyone who suggests leaving is "cutting and running".

How long does the president continue to pull on his fishing line when it's been snagged? Days? Months? Years? Or does he maybe...y'know...CUT and RUN when he's snagged and going nowhere and there's better fishing elsewhere?

I listen. All I hear are lies and statements which contradict the previous statements while insisting that the previous statements never even existed.
 
wyltoknow
2006-06-23 5:39:47 PM  
Oh look, John Kerry said something else!

Who the fark cares?!
 
Last One Left
2006-06-23 5:47:53 PM  
BaconatedGrapefruit: You can directly contradict yourself, and still have valid points? Interesting...

One of those points is valid, unless you're suggesting that finding constructive solutions to problems instead of partisan bickering isn't a good idea.
 
Jon Snow
2006-06-23 5:57:21 PM  
Why did "ironic" become a substitute for hypocritical?
 
h3lx
2006-06-23 6:15:59 PM  
No WMDs, No security, failing public works (because they can't be protected because of too few boots on the ground), Low morale because the shenanighans aren't just limited to political misspeak, but budget cuts pulled a great deal of benefits entitled to our troops from underneath... 9,000,000,000 missing...

No Iraqi oil flowing, Record demand and record profits, complacent politicians under scruitiny from the FBI, Failing US Dollar, Super Mega Highway getting rammed right up our asses, The goddamn integrity of the United States stomped into the mud... Overrun by illegals and going bankrupt funding two wars and trying to start two more... AIDS, SARS, Mad Cow, H5N-1... who has time to think?

Who the fark can look at this president and say they are pleased with his performance and deserves respect... It's been one fiasco after another, Gay marriage to WMDs, to 9-11, to war, to war again, WMDs, Anthrax, more goddamn anthrax, More terror cells, a whole bunch of war failures on both fronts, more WMDs, WMD thing was a farking lie. More war failures, a single farking war success, then another, and suddenly as if overnight the Iraq situation collapses to near civil war, then some kidnappings, some torture, more war failures, more torture...

...and now, 3 years + later, we have torture, more war failures, rehashing old lies as truth as if they've never said them, the highway is on schedule, America is about to become the Amero-Union or some shiat,
.... Not saying that Kerry would have been better, Goddamn, could it get any worse.


the erm... bit was pretty good.
 
MeanMF
2006-06-23 6:21:46 PM  
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2wolves [TotalFark]
2006-06-23 6:50:11 PM  
MeanMF

That is so accurate and disturbing.
 
smeegle
2006-06-23 8:26:03 PM  
Operating on the sheeyatbox of info fed to him by dear leader and the veep. But now "oh no he's a flip flopper."


Yeah he flipped when he discovered the crap he was fed was a lie.
 
heap
2006-06-23 10:57:41 PM  
h3lx: Not saying that Kerry would have been better

there's no way he couldn't.

i don't care if john kerry's personal stance is making sure every municipality has a merry-go-round and his foriegn policy consists of re-invading iraq with 13 year olds in wheelchairs.

having a hostile congress (and you better believe it would have been), no matter what goofyness he could come up w/, it wouldn't happen. as is, the twats just roll over and ask for a belly rub no matter what the executive branch wants to do.
 
Quick1
2006-06-23 11:29:44 PM  
submitter: John Kerry, this week: "We need to leave Iraq this year." John Kerry, 2003: "President Bush wants to cut and run from Iraq without finishing the job."

Who the fark cares? God, the way Republicans are so bitter when they talk about Kerry and Gore, you would almost think they won or something.

/well, Gore did, anyway
 
jackc126
2006-06-23 11:54:08 PM  
[image from img76.imageshack.us too old to be available]
 
eraser8
2006-06-24 12:01:35 AM  
"Cut and Run." The new Republican shorthand for anything other than "More of the Same."

Anyone who falls for the GOP line on this is an idiot.
 
heap
2006-06-24 12:02:45 AM  
eraser8: Anyone who falls for the GOP line on this is an idiot.

which is why i absolutely expect it to be successful.
 
Abagadro
2006-06-24 12:07:48 AM  
Clearly the "stay and pray" strategy is far superior.
 
eraser8
2006-06-24 12:10:09 AM  
heap writes: which is why i absolutely expect it to be successful.

You may have a point. It's worked for them so far. If the lessons of past elections are reliable, showing genuine respect for the electorate is clearly a bad strategy. Showing genuine contempt for the electorate (while professing respect) is a clear winner.
 
heap
2006-06-24 12:20:58 AM  
eraser8: It's worked for them so far.

so long as you can sound bite your opponent in less than 3 syllables, you're doing pretty good politically.

ever wonder why 'culture of corruption' didn't take? if they'd just said 'farking crooks', it'd be on everybody's lips.
 
Quick1
2006-06-24 12:38:16 AM  
jackc126: Good thing he didn't go to the GOP restaurant. All they serve there is chickenhawk.
 
jackc126
2006-06-24 12:40:34 AM  
And here I thought "Re-deploy" was a pretty clever soundbite response from the Democrats....

/guess liberals don't like the sound of that either....
//btw, cut and run contains three syllables, just like "re...de...ploy"
///now for a two syllable response.... Duke sucks?
 
eraser8
2006-06-24 12:52:25 AM  
jackc126 writes: And here I thought "Re-deploy" was a pretty clever soundbite response from the Democrats...

Democrats? How many Democrats have been using the term redeploy as a political soundbite? One? Two?

How many Republicans have been using the "cut-and-run" nonsense?

Democrats ought to call the Republican plan exactly what it is: More of the Same.
 
jackc126
2006-06-24 12:56:52 AM  
Sometimes it takes "More of the same" to respond to "More of the same."

How about we crack open a beer and chill in the spirit of good will -- it's been a long political week.

Either way, I'll try to keep answering. There is just so much to read and too many distractions!!!

Have a good weekend.
 
heap
2006-06-24 12:59:21 AM  
jackc126: Sometimes it takes "More of the same" to respond to "More of the same."

has 'more of the same' produced the desired results?

doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results is a sign of insanity.
 
jackc126
2006-06-24 1:09:37 AM  
/Einstein was a physicist and part-time philosopher.
//not going there....
 
Gosling
2006-06-24 1:22:19 AM  
Kerry, the only reason I voted for you was because I sure as hell wasn't voting Bush, Nader was insane, and I didn't know enough about Badnarik or the other third-parties. I don't like you either. I fully realize the flip-flopping was part of a smear campaign, but DAMN do you make it hard to argue the contrary. I want you out of politics, I want Bush out of politics, and you can take 520-some of your collegues with you.
 
glassa
2006-06-24 1:23:17 AM  
"We will be there in some military capacity for decades. Just like Japan, Germany, South Korea, etc."

God! Someone who actually THINKS & REMEMBERS history on this site!!!!!!

"God, the way Republicans are so bitter when they talk about Kerry and Gore, you would almost think they won or something.
/well, Gore did, anyway"

And Dewey defeated Truman in the popular vote too.
I doubt they whined about it for 6 years back then.
 
mrexcess
2006-06-24 1:25:25 AM  
heap
doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results is a sign of insanity.

[image from im.rediff.com too old to be available]
"Who's expecting different results?"
 
davevodolazkiy
2006-06-24 1:30:33 AM  
BaconatedGrapefruit: Well, that's all the closed-minded liberals hear, with their hands over their ears all the time.

Yes, liberals, the group of people named after a willingness to change, are the ones who are closed minded, and not the conservatives, the group named for an unwillingness to change much of anything. Good shootin', Tex.
 
Bon_Scott
2006-06-24 1:37:01 AM  
Me thinks that Kerry should start taking some farking notes or keep a log of his public statements. Good grief. I'm not a Bush fan but Kerry, to me, stands for nothing; believes in nothing; doesn't know what he believes, but is very appreciate of ketchup.

/Sorry for the run-on sentence.
//I like ketchup on my hotdogs.
///No mustard.
 
BMFPitt
2006-06-24 1:37:29 AM  
I think the Dems would have been better off in '04 if they put the names of everyone in the party who was eligible to run for President in a hat, and ran the hat.

The hat would have had more personality, and would have done at least as well in the debates. Plus it would just be funny when the Republicans ran attack ads against it.
 
eraser8
2006-06-24 1:41:18 AM  
glassa writes: And Dewey defeated Truman in the popular vote too.

First, you're flat wrong. Truman won 24,105,812 votes to Dewey's 21,970,065.

Second, I don't think Quick1 was just talking about the popular vote.

Third, do you think Republicans would have just "gotten over it" had Gore been installed in the White House under suspicious circumstances and with less than a popular vote plurality?

Fourth, you are obviously not someone that "THINKS & REMEMBERS history."
 
Fart_Machine
2006-06-24 1:54:28 AM  
Hey, quotes are fun...

George W. Bush, 6/5/99

"I think it's also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn."

George W. Bush, 6/24/05:

"It doesn't make any sense to have a timetable. You know, if you give a timetable, you're - you're conceding too much to the enemy."
 
heap
2006-06-24 2:03:49 AM  
jackc126: not going there

have you seen the desired results, and if not, what leads you to believe that doing the same thing will at some point in the future produce the desired results?

that just seemed like a big fat dodge.
 
Superjoe
2006-06-24 2:13:53 AM  
Bush doesn't want to get this done, he just wants to drag it out until he's out of office. He's too incompetent to be able to finish it and besides he gets too much political support from the "don't question the war president" crowd.
 
CHAZZZ
2006-06-24 2:43:25 AM  
Well submitter, it's been three years and Bush hasn't done shiat about Iraq. He and his crew half-assed this war and we are not left with that many choices. The insurgency is dug in and only tactics that might work we will never use.
 
pshaw
2006-06-24 3:19:55 AM  
Hey look! A distraction! I've heard of these before. What are we suppose to do with them?
 
Wraithbane
2006-06-24 5:47:07 AM  
davevodolazkiy
Yes, liberals, the group of people named after a willingness to change,

Too bad they're just named after it instead of actually embodying it.

Yeah they're liberal, everybody's free to agree with them, and they're tolerant too, as long as you agree with them.
 
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