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(Some Guy)   People are so disgusted with the way the government does things that some politicians are running on their lack of accomplishment   (opinionjournal.com) divider line
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2006-06-23 10:59:56 AM  
Wow. A well-reasoned and rational editorial from the WSJ.

I have to say, I agree. This Congress has accomplished little to nothing, and have had less days working than almost any other.

I don't see any easy way for Republicans to run on this issue, though. How can they spin it positively? It's not like there was "gridlock" like they used so effectively against the Dems back in the '90s. They hold the White House, Senate, and House of Representatives. There's simply NO excuse, other than incompetence and refusing to deal with the minority.

Before you chime in, righties, yes. The Dems have done a woeful job of expressing that they'll do any better. The national party, frankly, sucks. That's why good ol' Dr. Dean is out rehabilitating the party from the ground (grass) up.

I'm a little anxious that the dems aren't going to make huge gains in the midterm, but it's all about the long term baby. The current GOP domination wasn't created in a day, and neither will the liberal left resurgence.
 
2006-06-23 12:17:12 PM  
Puppeteer_23: That's why good ol' Dr. Dean is out rehabilitating the party from the ground (grass) up.

If we define "rehabilitating" as "dragging the party even farther to the left so it will be even more out of touch and irrelevant," I agree.

Otherwise, no arguments. The best thing about Congress is that they talk a lot more than they act, which keeps them from doing too much to screw things up. But this one talks so much and does so little I think it's personally responsible for global warming.
 
2006-06-23 12:25:09 PM  
Puppeteer_23: Wow. A well-reasoned and rational editorial from the WSJ.

Yeah. Amazing that it's one of the top papers in the country when it's usually so raving and incoherent, eh?
 
2006-06-23 12:52:26 PM  
I, for one, am very happy when congress can't get anything done. It means fewer laws and fewer restrictions on my freedoms. The Republicans have the house, the Senate, and the presidency and they've managed to do absolutely nothing domestically. Nothing. There's no excuse. For a "party of ideas", they certainly don't follow through with any.

I occurred to me the other day that we actually pay people a lot of money to sit around and pass laws that only take away our freedoms. Then we wonder why our freedoms disappear and why there are so many laws. It's not limited to one party or another. The Dems just choose to pass different laws to take away our freedoms.

It was about the same time I realized that our society was doomed.

/We are some special kind of stupid that transcends regular idiocy.
 
2006-06-23 1:06:39 PM  
I'd rather hear a promise to not only add nothing to the lawbooks, but to reverse many of the actions take by previous politicians.
 
2006-06-23 1:07:22 PM  
The CraneMeister

How the hell can you not know the history of the opinion page of the wall street journal? They're nearly separate entities, so trying to conflate the two isn't going to trick anyone.
 
2006-06-23 1:07:56 PM  
A comatose senator would be the best senator.
 
2006-06-23 1:09:34 PM  
I've worked around politics and politicians for most of my adult life, but have never held office.
I would run for office in a New York minute on my lack of qualifications....if it weren't for that "incident" in Nuevo Laredo I'd be a shoe-in.
 
2006-06-23 1:09:40 PM  
200 years of congresspeople having to pass laws so they can look like they're necessary.

There is a fundamental problem with the system. There desperately needs to be an AntiCongress to offset the severe damage Congress does to the country simply by making work for themselves.
 
2006-06-23 1:10:24 PM  
CraneMeister-

Dean's politics are hard to pinpoint but as a governor he governed quite moderately.

His strongest position during his Presidential campaign was against the war in Iraq. Public opinion has since born him out with the majority of Americans recognizing that it's a huge Republican clusterfark.

The problem is that the Republican party is sooooo far off the deep end to the right that the center looks like the far left.

To a radical everybody else looks crazy.
 
2006-06-23 1:10:48 PM  
When you have a voting public as dumb as the one we have, it really is just fish in a barrel.
 
2006-06-23 1:11:05 PM  
The reason I wanted Kerry to win, and that I want the Democrats to win this time, is not because I like them.

It's because it would provide us with a divided government , and those seem to have functioned pretty well in the past. At the very least, there'd be less of this god-damned rubber-stamping.
 
2006-06-23 1:11:29 PM  
here here Blathering Idjut!
 
2006-06-23 1:12:48 PM  
Blathering Idjut: CraneMeister-

Dean's politics are hard to pinpoint but as a governor he governed quite moderately.

His strongest position during his Presidential campaign was against the war in Iraq. Public opinion has since born him out with the majority of Americans recognizing that it's a huge Republican clusterfark.

The problem is that the Republican party is sooooo far off the deep end to the right that the center looks like the far left.

To a radical everybody else looks crazy.



As governor he balanced the budget, had healthcare for all children, and had a 100% rating from the NRA.

But like you said...compared to Gengis Khan, everyone is a bleeding heart liberal.
 
2006-06-23 1:14:39 PM  
Scooby's'pawn

Curious... if they have done absolutely nothing domestically, how have they taken away your freedoms? That would be "doing something," would it not?
 
2006-06-23 1:17:34 PM  
I wish some politicans would do less. We don't need more legislation.

The system is farked.
 
2006-06-23 1:19:58 PM  
"I'm not the only do-nothinger, there's a Democrat who's a do-nothinger too" - Lynn Westmoreland from The Colbert Report
 
2006-06-23 1:21:15 PM  
I don't see an issue here. The Republicans have actually done a pretty good job.

Everyone loves to criticize their actions, like we could do a better job.

No, we couldn't. They could, that's why they are in power. It's our job to complain and their job to tell us to "STFU" by continuing to do what we don't like.

If the Republicans can hold the US under their governing grip for another decade, we should all be so freaking lucky


Unbelievable...
 
2006-06-23 1:22:06 PM  
ElRonHubbardsBalls: As governor he balanced the budget, had healthcare for all children, and had a 100% rating from the NRA.

Yeah but he did that really lame scream thing.

I can't vote for a guy who screams like that.
 
2006-06-23 1:22:47 PM  
Very interesting piece. I agree with Puppermaster_23. A well written article with none of the shrill hysteria you read about on both sides. I am interested to see where this is going, it could be the best thing or the worst thing, but by far, it can't be any worse than what we have right now. I suppose this last adminstration has left me very, very jaded (and no, I am not bashing Republicans) and I am much more wary and take way less things for granted.
 
2006-06-23 1:22:57 PM  
irish31, almost! You gotta pull it back just a smidge
 
2006-06-23 1:23:58 PM  
Curious... if they have done absolutely nothing domestically, how have they taken away your freedoms? That would be "doing something," would it not?

No they're not doing anything to prevent the executive branch from taking our freedoms, and what very little they have done has been in the form of taking away our freedoms. *ALL* laws take away a little bit of freedom, its the nature of the beast.

Personally I think all laws should be constitutionally required to have an expiration date. It would be wonderful if the expiration date was directly tied to the voting. A unanimously passed law would last the longest (Say 10 or 12 years). The law passed with the most narrow of margins would only last a year or a year and a half. Everything between would be scaled.
 
2006-06-23 1:24:02 PM  
Submitter is Hillary Clinton.
 
2006-06-23 1:24:03 PM  
2006-06-23 01:09:40 PM otakucode

There is a fundamental problem with the system. There desperately needs to be an AntiCongress to offset the severe damage Congress does to the country simply by making work for themselves term limits.

Fixed.
 
2006-06-23 1:24:04 PM  
"Suppose you were a congressman, and suppose you were an idiot. But I repeat myself." - Mark twain
 
2006-06-23 1:26:08 PM  
Vote Confederate..
 
2006-06-23 1:26:13 PM  
otakucode: There desperately needs to be an AntiCongress to offset the severe damage Congress does to the country simply by making work for themselves.

We do. It's SUPPOSED to be the judicial branch...
 
2006-06-23 1:27:30 PM  
Well, because so many people suck, I am very proud to announce my lack of procreation.
 
2006-06-23 1:28:48 PM  
What an interesting idea. I might actually agree that a congress that does little may be better than one that does allot; however, congress doesn't only pass legistlation that limits our freedoms even though it doesn seem that way lately. The time that they need to get in gear and do stuff is the moment that topics become monumentaly pronounced like immigration, social security, and military concerns. Not doing anything about this stuff gets people into office on empty promises to do something about hot-topic issues. IF they didnt exist people might actually have to look at a politicians actualy career record when voting for someone.
Sometimes I wonder if our founders didn't realize that not giving most congressmen a maximum amount of terms would turn it into a sluggish beast and then I wonder if they knew exactlly what they where doing and did it so that congress could never get things passed quickly so that peoples knee jerk reactions would not come into effect. I hopew its the later but I wish there was another way about it.
 
2006-06-23 1:29:08 PM  
the less congress does, the better.
congress has already done way too much.
vote not for incumbents.
 
2006-06-23 1:32:04 PM  
FALL OF ROME FALL OF ROME FALL OF ROME!

YaY. I'm the first to say it!

/sick of it all
 
2006-06-23 1:32:24 PM  
Isn't that what John Kerry did? It seemed like every campaign stop was blaming Bush for acne or something.
 
2006-06-23 1:34:59 PM  
01:07:56 PMtonesskin
A comatose senator would be the best senator.

The only similarity between Charles Sumner and Strom Thurmond is their year of birth.
I mean besides their comatoseness in office.
 
2006-06-23 1:36:28 PM  
That's a great idea.

One of the thing I liked about Chretien - he didn't try to change too much. He just kept things ticking (corruptley) along.

Do we REALLY need legislators ALL the time?

Why not have a parliament or congress for 2 months every 3 years?
 
2006-06-23 1:38:31 PM  
vote not for incumbents.

Agree completely I do.

/snark
 
2006-06-23 1:38:59 PM  
Major Thomb
Isn't that what John Kerry did? It seemed like every campaign stop was blaming Bush for acne or something.

Hey, way to be relevant.
 
2006-06-23 1:42:03 PM  
wh0mprat: One of the thing I liked about Chretien - he didn't try to change too much. He just kept things ticking (corruptley) along.

I remember seeing a standup comic on that subject: Canadians basically said "congratulations, you're elected. Now don't touch anything".

The liberals had a mandate do do nothing at all, and they somehow managed to screw that up. All the other parties have plans - bad ones. In the last election, Martin had to compensate by making plans for the Liberals - which made them even worse, as they became a corrupt party with stupid ideas running against a bunch of less-corrupt parties with stupid ideas.
 
2006-06-23 1:43:28 PM  
Old people vote. Veterans vote. Hispanics vote. The failure to fix social security, the gutting of medicade and the gutting of benefeits to veterans will piss off a lot of people. Hispanics alienated by the immigration thing will surely vote. Lots of people are real sick of Iraq. While you can never understimate the stupidity of the voting public, it will be an intersting mid term. There could be a huge upset, or more of the same. We will see. Whatever the outcome, someone will get it up the pooper, that we can be sure of.
 
2006-06-23 1:45:26 PM  
wh0mprat

Do we REALLY need legislators ALL the time?


No, which is why they aren't in session all the time. The
 
2006-06-23 1:46:49 PM  
legislators have the old hammer and nail problem, only instead of thinking everything need to be hammered, they think everything needs laws.

And they have to justify their time and paycheques by thinking up NEW laws.

MP, Congressman, whatever the lower house is called should be a part time job.
 
2006-06-23 1:47:39 PM  
equusdc

Surely they're in session more than we need them to be.
 
2006-06-23 1:49:54 PM  
To me the problem is a lack of refactoring. Lawmaking sounds a lot like software architecture - you design the rules the system has to follow. As the system grows, changes become apparent that consolidate old groups of the system so it can be simpler and more sensible. At that point, you refactor your design. If you never refactor, the program becomes a monster of spaghetti no matter how careful you are.

The problem with refactoring is that you need to set up unit tests before the change to make sure that your fix didn't break anything. Can't do automated unit tests on laws.
 
2006-06-23 1:56:33 PM  
Dispassionate Demagogism?
 
2006-06-23 1:59:30 PM  
Butbutbut, they're keeping the Gays from getting married, and after all that's the only thing that matters. If Gays get married then we'll have Gay Babies running amok, sucking on everything in sight; pink flobbery lampreys of immorality stuck to lamposts, trailer hitches, and garden hoses...

This seems to be the repub platform entire.

/vote them ALL out
//clean house in 06
 
2006-06-23 2:00:24 PM  
All countries fall. Rome fell. France fell. England fell. America will fall too.

Just like we are all going to die.

/cheerful, huh?
 
2006-06-23 2:06:14 PM  
All countries fall. Rome fell. France fell. England fell. America will fall too.

Just like we are all going to die.


But it will be spectacular. Or sad. Maybe both
 
2006-06-23 2:06:18 PM  
ElRonHubbardsBalls: "When you have a voting public as dumb as the one we have, it really is just fish in a barrel."

Just because a majority of people in America chose not to accept the person you viewed as a savior doesn't make them dumb. It makes you extremely arrogant and pretentious.
 
2006-06-23 2:06:54 PM  
ghare

All countries fall. Rome fell. France fell. England fell. America will fall too.

Just like we are all going to die.


That's just loser talk. Go back to Canada, you commie.
 
2006-06-23 2:07:16 PM  
MickeyF: Vote Confederate..

but-but-but the civil war was about slavery...

/I lol'd
//thanks
 
2006-06-23 2:09:09 PM  
If we define "rehabilitating" as "dragging the party even farther to the left so it will be even more out of touch and irrelevant," I agree.

Worked for the GOP. The farther they move to facism the more popular they get.
 
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