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304 clicks; posted to Politics » on 22 Jun 2006 at 9:30 AM (16 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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thamike
2006-06-22 3:31:22 AM  
Ahhghh! My eyes! The bullsh*t burns! The goggles do nothing!
 
Zeppo Nightshade
2006-06-22 9:12:30 AM  
Troll Thread. No feeding.
 
eden express
2006-06-22 9:17:08 AM  
Whose blog is that? Oh wait, it's the Wall Street Journal.
 
RanDomino
2006-06-22 9:36:18 AM  
I'll sum up the problem with deregulation: Businesses will either cater to the rich or overcharge the poor.
 
wpmulligan
2006-06-22 9:40:17 AM  
1. Design test
2. Tailor curriculum to help children to pass test
3. Pat self on back when children pass test
 
PottyMcNugg
2006-06-22 9:59:06 AM  
Mild7?
 
Sloth_DC
2006-06-22 10:01:51 AM  
RanDomino: I'll sum up the problem with deregulation: Businesses will either cater to the rich or overcharge the poor.

Which one does Ronco do?
 
intrigue78m
2006-06-22 10:04:05 AM  
RanDomino: I'll sum up the problem with deregulation: Businesses will either cater to the rich or overcharge the poor...

but will still do a better job than the government.
 
RanDomino
2006-06-22 10:12:50 AM  
Sloth_DC
Which one does Ronco do?
This Ronco?
[image from images.amazon.com too old to be available]
btw, "Ronco" has amusing Google Image results

intrigue78m
but will still do a better job than the government.
better job at screwing the poor or at catering to the rich? This administration sets a pretty high standard for both...
 
mrexcess
2006-06-22 10:17:50 AM  
Mmmmmm, flamebait.
 
Sloth_DC
2006-06-22 10:20:45 AM  
RanDomino: This Ronco?

Yes, that Ronco. :)
 
mrexcess
2006-06-22 10:26:41 AM  
Sloth_DC: You want your kids to have a "Ronco" education?
 
Sloth_DC
2006-06-22 10:32:01 AM  
mrexcess: You want your kids to have a "Ronco" education?

I want them to have the choice.
 
mrexcess
2006-06-22 10:34:54 AM  
Sloth_DC: You want your kids to be able to choose their own schools? Or you want the right to be able to choose a terrible education for your own children? I'm not following you.
 
Sloth_DC
2006-06-22 10:37:40 AM  
mrexcess: You want your kids to be able to choose their own schools? Or you want the right to be able to choose a terrible education for your own children? I'm not following you.

I want them to be able to choose their own schools, especially if the local govt school is failing to do its job.
 
mrexcess
2006-06-22 10:47:10 AM  
Sloth_DC: Call me crazy, but I don't think letting children choose which school they attend is a very good idea.
 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark]
2006-06-22 11:11:42 AM  
mrexcess: Call me crazy, but I don't think letting children choose which school they attend is a very good idea.

Okay, you're crazy.

Interesting that we want to give kids condoms in school and insist they're smart enough to know if/how/when to have sex, but we contend they aren't smart/mature enough to make intelligent choices about education.
 
mrexcess
2006-06-22 11:15:49 AM  
The CraneMeister
Interesting that we want to give kids condoms in school

OK...we do that...

and insist they're smart enough to know if/how/when to have sex

Who the fark says that?!? I don't, and I haven't heard anyone else doing so either. Kids are dumb, but they will fark even if they're dumb, so it's better to mitigate the risk of the activities that they'll engage in either way.

but we contend they aren't smart/mature enough to make intelligent choices about education.

I wouldn't entirely be opposed to something that allowed a 16-18 year old *some* amount of choice in the direction of their education. But I didn't say 16-18 year olds, and neither did Sloth_DC. The idea of letting a 9 year old pick their school speaks for itself, methinks.
 
Sloth_DC
2006-06-22 11:21:03 AM  
mrexcess: I wouldn't entirely be opposed to something that allowed a 16-18 year old *some* amount of choice in the direction of their education. But I didn't say 16-18 year olds, and neither did Sloth_DC. The idea of letting a 9 year old pick their school speaks for itself, methinks.

I clearly meant that the *parents* should have some choice in the education received by their child, not that the child himself would choose. I let your comment go because I thought you were being deliberately obtuse, but you really *are* that obtuse, aren't you?
 
mrexcess
2006-06-22 11:32:04 AM  
Sloth_DC
I clearly meant that the *parents* should have some choice in the education received by their child

You confused both myself and a guy who apparently wishes to support you, so I question how "clear" that was.

Let me ask you this: wouldn't it be preferrable to sink the time, money, and effort into fixing the schools we have, rather than turning education into yet another commodity for the wealthy to monopolize and the poor to lack?
 
Sloth_DC
2006-06-22 11:39:29 AM  
mrexcess: Let me ask you this: wouldn't it be preferrable to sink the time, money, and effort into fixing the schools we have, rather than turning education into yet another commodity for the wealthy to monopolize and the poor to lack?

1) I never said we shouldn't spend more time, money, and effort on the public schools.
2) The communist lingo is tired, let it go. Giving vouchers to poor families so they can attend private school when their public school is failing is hardly turning education into a commodity for the wealthy, comrade.
 
mrexcess
2006-06-22 11:44:03 AM  
Sloth_DC
The communist lingo is tired

What "communist lingo", specifically?

Giving vouchers to poor families so they can attend private school when their public school is failing is hardly turning education into a commodity for the wealthy, comrade.

The robber barons of the railroad industry didn't suddenly appear out of thin air the moment someone laid a track down, either. These things take time.
 
Tjos Weel
2006-06-22 11:50:07 AM  
I'll sum up the problem with deregulation: Businesses will either cater to the rich or overcharge the poor.

Ah, Southwest airlines. Catering to the rich and overcharging the poor for many years now.

WTF?
 
Sloth_DC
2006-06-22 11:55:36 AM  
mrexcess: What "communist lingo", specifically?

another commodity for the wealthy to monopolize and the poor to lack?

The robber barons of the railroad industry didn't suddenly appear out of thin air the moment someone laid a track down, either.
 
Tjos Weel
2006-06-22 11:55:57 AM  
It seems the current situation caters to the rich and overcharges the poor.

The rich can afford the private schools. In many cases, schools are so bad that any taxes the poor are paying is an overpayment.
 
mrexcess
2006-06-22 12:12:32 PM  
Sloth_DC: There's no "communist lingo" there. Try again.

When I start talking about the proletariat or something, then you can make that comment.
 
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