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(Denver Post)   Utah governor vows to lay on tracks to keep trains carrying nuclear waste out of his state. Irony tag trumps dumbass since trains are headed to "skull valley"   (denverpost.com) divider line
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2006-06-11 4:49:04 PM  
"irony tag trumps dumbass" yet link has dumbass tag . . .
 
2006-06-11 4:49:30 PM  
awesome
 
2006-06-11 4:50:46 PM  
Me thinks smitty doesn't know what trumps means.
 
2006-06-11 4:51:31 PM  
yes, i found that to be quite...well, img.fark.net
 
2006-06-11 4:52:12 PM  
yup, then dumbass triumphed over Ironic in the greatest tag battle fark has ever seen
 
2006-06-11 4:55:43 PM  
Bill his estate for washing off the engine.
However, these trains are going to be escorted. Nail him for felony interfering with troop movements and fine him half his wives.
 
2006-06-11 4:56:57 PM  
Wait, if the trains are "carrying nuclear waste out of his state," why would the governor want to stop them
 
2006-06-11 4:58:15 PM  
Wait, what is the irony here? The headline has me confused, and I care too little to RTFA.
 
2006-06-11 4:58:48 PM  
You stupid ass liberals are at it again. You futile, bean eaters just don't get it do you? And you support those damn Injuns too?

We need to complete our manifest destiny at all costs!
 
2006-06-11 4:59:43 PM  
You go Chief, Fark the Whiteman!
 
2006-06-11 4:59:51 PM  
His nibs the Gov wants to keep the trains out.
 
2006-06-11 5:00:07 PM  
spending a little quality time in "skull valley" ain't nearly as bad as it sounds...


NSFW

quality time
 
2006-06-11 5:00:29 PM  
e_man182

Wait, what is the irony here? The headline has me confused, and I care too little to RTFA.

I think its probably too do with the waste is being taken away, which most people are usually glad of in any location rather than protesting to try and keep it there.
 
2006-06-11 5:01:54 PM  
The irony is in fact, that if you read the headline and then saw the tag, it was - in an unexpected turn of events - not [Ironic] but [Dumbass].
 
2006-06-11 5:02:14 PM  
[image from dark-fx.com too old to be available]

/Obvious
 
2006-06-11 5:06:05 PM  
Iy you DRTFA then ask a question about TFA the got RTFA... got it?
 
2006-06-11 5:06:47 PM  
or actuall DNRTFA instead of DRTFA...
 
2006-06-11 5:06:49 PM  
Other people who have lain across train tracks have found that it doesn't stop trains at all.
 
2006-06-11 5:10:14 PM  
Leon Bear, leader of the Skull Valley Goshutes, stands on the road near where a nuclear fuel rod storage facility would be built. Despite some Goshutes' concerns, Bear says it's his responsibility to protect the tribe's future.

First thing I thought of:

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2006-06-11 5:11:00 PM  
"To people on the northeastern seaboard, we're just the square states," Lee said. "We have a whole lot of space, and a lot of it's good for nothing but cacti and prairie dogs."

Well I'm glad we all agree then...
 
2006-06-11 5:12:36 PM  
Okay, here's my question, why not put all this radioactive waste onto a rocket and send it up into space? Get it out of Earth Orbit and it's no longer anyone's problem. Hell, if we can send probes to Venus, Mars and the moons of Saturn then why not send the waste out there. It shouldn't harm the enviroment if we crash it on Venus.
 
2006-06-11 5:15:50 PM  
Great Janitor: Okay, here's my question, why not put all this radioactive waste onto a rocket and send it up into space? Get it out of Earth Orbit and it's no longer anyone's problem. Hell, if we can send probes to Venus, Mars and the moons of Saturn then why not send the waste out there. It shouldn't harm the enviroment if we crash it on Venus.

A 14-foot spent fuel rod assembly weighs 1,000 pounds and contains highly radioactive isotopes of plutonium, neptunium and cesium, among others.

The idea is controversial: Seal the radioactive rods in 4,000 concrete and steel casks


This might help
 
2006-06-11 5:18:25 PM  
Great Janitor: Okay, here's my question, why not put all this radioactive waste onto a rocket and send it up into space? Get it out of Earth Orbit and it's no longer anyone's problem. Hell, if we can send probes to Venus, Mars and the moons of Saturn then why not send the waste out there. It shouldn't harm the enviroment if we crash it on Venus.

Your logic has so many holes it could be a golf course.
 
2006-06-11 5:23:01 PM  
A 14-foot spent fuel rod assembly weighs 1,000 pounds and contains highly radioactive isotopes of plutonium, neptunium and cesium, among others.

The idea is controversial: Seal the radioactive rods in 4,000 concrete and steel casks



And the things we send into space are much heavier.

We can make one cask big enough to fill up one rocket. Fill it full of these rods then launch the sucker into space. Yeah, it would take a lot of fuel, but it would end this problem without having to worry about long term ecological damage.
 
2006-06-11 5:23:44 PM  
For you smitty

[image from static.flickr.com too old to be available]
 
2006-06-11 5:24:58 PM  
Hey! lets store all this nuclear waste on the moon in great big piles.

Until it explodes!

Throwing the moon out of orbit.

To visit sexy new worlds and euro-like aliens every week.
 
2006-06-11 5:27:52 PM  
I guess it didn't help that we built the reactors spicifically to create the plutonium ie. breader reactors and then once the arms race was over we got stuck with all the waste... we might actually try to figure out how to refine the nuclear materials to do something than make hot water...

We don't need warheads, and probably not too many more depleted uranium anti tank shells... or course some of the depleted uranium rods from god might be greating the Iranian's soon enough if we decide on what to do about their burried hardened enrichment sites.

The biggest problem is that we never decided what to do with all that material before creating it, always assumeing that we'd figure it out eventually... well eventually is fast aproaching and we're not really even working on the problem.
 
2006-06-11 5:29:31 PM  
Great Janitor

Okay, here's my question, why not put all this radioactive waste onto a rocket and send it up into space? Get it out of Earth Orbit and it's no longer anyone's problem. Hell, if we can send probes to Venus, Mars and the moons of Saturn then why not send the waste out there. It shouldn't harm the enviroment if we crash it on Venus.


[image from grin.hq.nasa.gov too old to be available]

And this is a good argument against trying to send anything radioactive into space.
 
2006-06-11 5:30:56 PM  
Great Janitor: Okay, here's my question, why not put all this radioactive waste onto a rocket and send it up into space? Get it out of Earth Orbit and it's no longer anyone's problem. Hell, if we can send probes to Venus, Mars and the moons of Saturn then why not send the waste out there. It shouldn't harm the enviroment if we crash it on Venus.

I take it you never considered the possibility that it could blow up on launch. Space flight is far from perfect, and I'd rather not have radioactive waste raining down from the stratosphere.

Opponents of nuclear power love to ignore the fact that burning coal produces more radioactive waste than nuke plants, and that most of it just gets released into the atmosphere. Just put it all in a big hole in the ground. If these folks are willing to let it be stored on their land, more power to them (pun only partially intended).

Oh, and if the dumbass governor tries to lay on the tracks, I hope he gets run over. I'd say "arrest him for trespassing," but Darwin hasn't been getting his quota lately.
 
2006-06-11 5:31:07 PM  
Great Janitor: And the things we send into space are much heavier.

we send thing into orbit that are hevier than 1000 lb rod and the 1000 lb cement and steel case it is in, but not 4000 of them.

The Titan V rocket was barely able to get the appolo capsule out of orbit and it didn't weigh as much as 3 or 4 of your rod/cement assemblies
 
2006-06-11 5:33:43 PM  
GWSuperfan: Oh, and if the dumbass governor tries to lay on the tracks, I hope he gets run over. I'd say "arrest him for trespassing," but Darwin hasn't been getting his quota lately.

I'm wondering if he could be arrested on terrorism charges...
 
2006-06-11 5:34:53 PM  
Zaphodius: Titan V

saturn V... oops
 
2006-06-11 5:35:37 PM  
Great Janitor:
Okay, here's my question, why not put all this radioactive waste onto a rocket and send it up into space? Get it out of Earth Orbit and it's no longer anyone's problem. Hell, if we can send probes to Venus, Mars and the moons of Saturn then why not send the waste out there. It shouldn't harm the enviroment if we crash it on Venus.


'Cause I would imagine a couple tons of nuclear waste exploding in the atmosphere is a risk most people are not willing to take.

/NASA has a good track record, but not that good.
 
2006-06-11 5:36:48 PM  
Great Janitor:
How do you know it won't come back 1000 years later, creating a need to make another rocket to knock it off course (assuming someone gets cryogenically frozen now and wakes up then to tell the future guys what to do)?
 
2006-06-11 5:39:01 PM  
How do you know it won't come back 1000 years later, creating a need to make another rocket to knock it off course (assuming someone gets cryogenically frozen now and wakes up then to tell the future guys what to do)?



I considered that. That's why I suggested pointing it at Venus. And if we miss, well, in 1000 it wouldn't be my problem!
 
2006-06-11 5:39:26 PM  
animalmagnet:
Other people who have lain across train tracks have found that it doesn't stop trains at all.


"Have you anny idea how much damage that [train] would suffer if I just let it roll straight over you?"
"How much?"
"None at all."

/All I could think of
//Every thread needs one THGTTG reference
///I got soooo beaten with my last post
 
2006-06-11 5:40:02 PM  
Great Janitor: I considered that. That's why I suggested pointing it at Venus. And if we miss, well, in 1000 it wouldn't be my problem!

Thats why we have so much waste setting arround now... it wasn't their problem either.
 
2006-06-11 5:44:44 PM  
SrWapo: Every thread needs one THGTTG reference

I'm soooo glad they didn't ruin that movie
 
2006-06-11 5:51:50 PM  
We don't send nuclear material into space because of fear of a crash on the launch. Have many shuttle mission have there been? 2 have exploded on take-off or re-enrty. Can you think of anyone who wants a rocket full of lethal nuclear waste taking off over their house? I can't
 
2006-06-11 5:56:51 PM  
THE GHOST OF WHITE TRASH: We don't send nuclear material into space because of fear of a crash on the launch. Have many shuttle mission have there been? 2 have exploded on take-off or re-enrty. Can you think of anyone who wants a rocket full of lethal nuclear waste taking off over their house? I can't

Heck they protested when we sent that probe up with a small nukeular reactor for a power source.
 
2006-06-11 6:03:35 PM  
submitter

What's a governer?
 
2006-06-11 6:12:45 PM  
I'm still wondering why we don't use subduction zones. When it comes out a million years later it's free to use.

BTW, I used to go out to the Skull Valley reservation. Great place to fly large plane gliders. Along with hang gliders and parachutes. That area has lots of hot air updrafts to use.
 
2006-06-11 6:13:32 PM  
Great Janitor: We can make one cask big enough to fill up one rocket. Fill it full of these rods then launch the sucker into space. Yeah, it would take a lot of fuel, but it would end this problem without having to worry about long term ecological damage.


Yeah, and then that 1 in 400 occurrence happens (we have lost two shuttles in 25 years after all), the rocket explodes in the upper atmosphere, and now we have upwards of a few hundred tons of highly radioactive and utterly toxic material spreading across the globe.

So what was that about worrying about long term ecological damage.


/the road to hell is paved with good intentions
 
2006-06-11 6:13:44 PM  
I wonder if he is aware that there is often no way to stop a heavily loaded train if it is not going up hill. He had better plan his spot very carefully.
 
2006-06-11 6:20:14 PM  
i say we turn all this radioactive waste into sex androids and then fark them til they love us
 
2006-06-11 6:31:57 PM  
In the open air, the radiation from an exposed rod travels only a few hundred feet. But if damaged casks are caught in a fire, critics say radioactive material carried by the debris in smoke could irradiate a city dozens of miles away.

which becomes an issue when the extreme flammability of concrete is concerned?
 
2006-06-11 6:42:58 PM  
[image from i83.photobucket.com too old to be available]

In the 21st century, humans sent a rocket with all their spent radioactive cooling rods into space. My plan is to fire another rocket equal in size and mass at the first one to prevent it from hitting Earth. The idea came to me in a dream. But where are we going to get that many radioactive cooling rods?
 
2006-06-11 6:44:16 PM  
Actually, everyone arguing about rocketing the waste into space are both wrong and right.

Instead of launching it on possibly exploding rockets and dispersing the radioactive cloud across the stratosphere, you build a mag/lev cannon that shoots it into space with no explosive fuel at all. Once the package leaves the end of the cannon, it's all about simple inertia.
 
2006-06-11 6:46:37 PM  
"I'm soooo glad they didn't ruin that movie"

You, sir, are stark barking insane to believe they treated H2G2 well.
 
2006-06-11 6:51:10 PM  
MonkeyJesus, do you really want your thingee or hooha, depending on gender, to start glowing green? I mean, it's really cool-looking, but the next step is that it falls off. Just trust me on this. I've made mistakes.

GWSuperfan

Opponents of nuclear power love to ignore the fact that burning coal produces more radioactive waste than nuke plants...


I've never heard that. Where did you find that out?
 
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