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2006-06-05 8:48:45 AM  
... maybe God wanted to feed the lion.
 
2006-06-05 8:50:25 AM  
If only there were a way to convince all true believers to try this.

Hey, I'm just sayin'.
 
2006-06-05 8:51:29 AM  
Good. Ignorant people who want God to present Hisself by putting themselves in live-threatening situations deserve what they get. People need to comprehend that humans answer to God, not vice versa.
 
2006-06-05 8:52:18 AM  
IMlifelike: If only there were a way to convince all true believers to try this.

Hey, I'm just sayin'.



That you are a douche? I don't think there was a overwhelming need for you to say it.
 
2006-06-05 8:55:42 AM  
The Billdozer: That you are a douche?

That's not playing very nice.

Keep your God to yourself and leave me alone.

Oh, and lighten up.
 
2006-06-05 8:56:11 AM  
That you are a douche? I don't think there was a overwhelming need for you to say it.

I know you are, but what am I?

I know you are, but what am I?

I know you are, but what am I?

I know you are, but what am I?...
 
2006-06-05 8:58:43 AM  
Suck my greatness Olaf
 
2006-06-05 9:00:10 AM  
God will make us all just get along...if he exists.
 
2006-06-05 9:01:05 AM  
IMlifelike: If only there were a way to convince all true believers to try this.

Why is it OK to be consistently disrespectful to those who believe in some sort of religion? Especially here on TF? I have yet to see religious TFers force their religion on non-religious TFers. Yet the daily snark against religious TFers is unparalleled except for the hatred of Bush.

I don't think you are a douche. But that was definitly a dousche comment.
 
2006-06-05 9:01:47 AM  
Survival of the fittest, eh?


I answer to no god...
 
2006-06-05 9:03:47 AM  
IMlifelike

That's not playing very nice.

Keep your God to yourself

He didn't mention God.

and leave me alone.

Damn, you are as defensive as a certain other TFer when it comes to religious threads.

Oh, and lighten up.
Yeah, you bashed unprovoked and you tell him to lighten up?
 
2006-06-05 9:03:53 AM  
Bonkthat_Again: Why is it OK to be consistently disrespectful to those who believe in some sort of religion?

Because it's OK to be consistently disrespectful of EVERYONE...it's what we do here.
 
2006-06-05 9:05:13 AM  
The Billdozer
People need to comprehend that humans answer to God

Speak for yourself.
 
2006-06-05 9:07:14 AM  
Bonkthat_Again: daily snark against religious TFers

Yeah, it was a douche comment, I'm sure the first and last of the day here at TF.

I honestly think the religion bashing taking place here is merely backlash for those of us who feel religion plays to important a role in our lives. Don't come to my door about God and I won't come to yours. And keep your hands off my laws. Oh and my kids.
 
2006-06-05 9:12:00 AM  
Whamdangler: Because it's OK to be consistently disrespectful of EVERYONE.

Not really. There's a difference here.

I'm not a real religious person in the traditional sense. I do believe in God, but thoughts are more in sync with Karen Armstrong's ideas.

It's the "I don't believe in God, therefore I am smarter than you, you dumb shiat" attitude people take that pisses me off.
 
2006-06-05 9:16:54 AM  
In think God has a divine plan for all of us.

Unfortunately I also think that for many people that plan might be to go out and do something stupid as a warning to others.
 
2006-06-05 9:17:07 AM  
Bonkthat_Again: It's the "I don't believe in God, therefore I am smarter than you, you dumb shiat" attitude people take that pisses me off.

As I wrote, this is exactly what religious zealots say every farking day as they wage war and change laws and tell people who they can't marry and what they shouldn't think. This is a small sanctuary where I find some shelter from the downpour of BS. As Wham suggested, everyone is a potential target in this forum and I am an equal-opportunity basher when I feel like it.

Why is it that people get so GD (ha ha) defensive when it comes to their religion?
 
2006-06-05 9:17:26 AM  
IMlifelike: Don't come to my door about God and I won't come to yours. And keep your hands off my laws. Oh and my kids.

Honestly, who is forcing God down your throat? I heard some preacher at yesterday's NASCAR race saying shiat over a megaphone. You know what? It was the same shiathead that was at the Dover race last year, which was coincidentally the last time I heard someone forcing religion down my throat. If you compare that with the magnitude of other non-religious solitications you get throughout the year, it's insignificant to warrant a "forcing down my throat" comment. But that's my experience. What's yours?
 
2006-06-05 9:20:07 AM  
IMlifelike: Why is it that people get so GD (ha ha) defensive when it comes to their religion?

I'm not defending religion. I'm defending your lack of respect for letting people believe in it.
 
2006-06-05 9:20:55 AM  
Bonkthat_Again: I have yet to see religious TFers force their religion on non-religious TFers.

You must be new here...

Just kidding, but it does happen. I have no problem with anyone having any set of beliefs they choose to have, as long as they don't try to force them upon me, either directly, face-to-face or through laws, policies, etc. However, people should be able to have a bit of a sense of humor and take a joke about their beliefs. If you take life too seriously, it stops being fun
 
2006-06-05 9:21:53 AM  
I, for one, have nothing but respect for people who believe in the invisible sky wizard.
 
2006-06-05 9:22:58 AM  
Exhibit A:


Action Replay Nick: I, for one, have nothing but respect for people who believe in the invisible sky wizard.
 
2006-06-05 9:24:44 AM  
Action Replay Nick: invisible sky wizard.

OK, that made me chuckle.
 
2006-06-05 9:25:34 AM  
Bonkthat_Again: I heard some preacher at yesterday's NASCAR race saying shiat over a megaphone.

BTW...I'm not talking about the guy who says the prayer for the race, I'm talking about some schmuck outside the track who isn't affiliated with the sport, track, etc.
 
2006-06-05 9:26:17 AM  
Why is it OK to be consistently disrespectful to those who believe in some sort of religion?

Seriously?.... okay, I'll bite.

Why do intolerant people "of faith" demand tolerance when it comes to themselves. Not all "Christians" fall into this catagory obviously, however, enough do to make the rest of us to look upon those people as hypocrites when compared with Christs teachings.

I don't hate religion, I abhor hypocrites, and religion is hip-deep in them unfortunately which is why they tend to get painted with a very broad brush.

The whole "evolution is just a theory" is a direct attack against facts and science. The Church has been proven wrong many times over our history by science. Science has yet to be proven wrong by religion.

For my own part, I do not attack God, I attack religion. I believe that the Bible is a guidebook, not a rule-book.

I praise God by living a good life, treating others as I would want to be treated, and showing my family that I love them. I don't do it by making sure the Minister sees a fat envelope in the collection plate and my ass sitting in his pew on Sunday... that's not religion, that's repetition.

Blind religion is positively unholy. Read the short story "The Three Hermits" by Leo Tolstoy for an example.
 
2006-06-05 9:28:59 AM  
Bonkthat_Again: What's yours?

* Fundies in the middle of campus several times a year with big "Sinners, fornicators, heathens, masturbators, gays, are going to hell" and "Sinners Repent" signs
* Group of people who sit at a table in the student center using the guise of a "campus beliefs survey" to tell anyone who will listen about their particular views on religion
* Crazy southern baptists who tell me I'm going to hell, not because I'm not christian, but because I'm not southern baptist
* People who come up to me while I'm eating lunch trying to discuss "who do you think Jesus was/is, and what do you think of his teachings?" (happened twice last year)

need more? I have no problem with any religion, belief system, etc, as long as you don't force it on me. I'm not attacking you personally. I'm just saying that it happens more than you'd expect, especially on a college campus
 
2006-06-05 9:29:02 AM  
St00pidN00b: Just kidding, but it does happen

Fine. But no force-feeding comments were made in this thread to warrant it. If we get some Jesus sprouting asshat TFer in here, who immediately takes the tone of "I don't believe in God, therefore I am smarter than you, you dumb shiat"...then it's open season.
 
2006-06-05 9:29:05 AM  
Why is it that people get so GD (ha ha) defensive when it comes to their religion?

When you suggest that everyone that believes in God should die. I would say that is cause enought to get defensive.
 
2006-06-05 9:30:15 AM  
Bonkthat_Again
Exhibit A:

Exhibit A of what?

He is invisible.
It is written that he lives in Heaven (also invisible), which is located in the sky.
According to scripture, he has magical powers.
 
2006-06-05 9:33:09 AM  
friendinpa: When you suggest that everyone that believes in God should die

I think everyone should die, and I'll get my way on that one. This thread could have been about lawyers or sales guys or pedophile priests. It just happened to be about God.
 
2006-06-05 9:34:05 AM  
Bonkthat_Again: Exhibit A:

Lighten up, man. Relax. You don't see me getting pissed off everytime I pull out money ("In God We Trust"), sneeze ("God bless you"), etc. If y'all can mention your beliefs that much, why can't we mention ours once or twice without y'all getting all defensive?
 
2006-06-05 9:34:37 AM  
Action Replay Nick: He is invisible.
It is written that he lives in Heaven (also invisible), which is located in the sky.
According to scripture, he has magical powers.


But you said it before in a way that made it sound... hard to believe.
 
2006-06-05 9:36:11 AM  
OlafTheBent: Seriously?.... okay, I'll bite

I don't disagree with anything you said.

I abhor hypocrites, and religion is hip-deep in them unfortunately which is why they tend to get painted with a very broad brush.

And that is what i disagree with. I do not think it's a broad brush. You have a minority of people within the faith who are not only hypocrites, but also hold the microphone. In my view, it's a grossly unfair generalization, which sadly transcends into TF...where people like The Billdozer and myself feel like they're walking on glass in religious discussions.
 
2006-06-05 9:37:37 AM  
Bonkthat_Again: You have a minority of people within the faith who are not only hypocrites, but also hold the microphone.

Uh-huh. But a majority are listening to the asshats with the microphones.
 
2006-06-05 9:39:48 AM  
St00pidN00b: Lighten up, man. Relax.

Whoaa...I'm completely calm.
That wasn't meant to be snarky. ARN's comment purely illustrated the lack of respect i was talking about.

Action Replay Nick: I, for one, have nothing but respect for people who believe in the invisible sky wizard an omnipotent being.
...would have been more appropriate.
 
2006-06-05 9:42:40 AM  
Bonkthat_Again: people like The Billdozer and myself feel like they're walking on glass in religious discussions.

You could maybe just try not getting so easily-offended. IMlifelike makes one joking comment, and then you provoke him by getting all like "OMFG you douche. Don't attack my God." A response less likely to lead to a flamewar would be something like "I'm sorry you feel that way. While some Christians may be asshats who forcefeed people their religion, or crazy zealots, a majority of them are good people."
 
2006-06-05 9:43:33 AM  
Bonkthat_Again: ARN's comment purely illustrated the lack of respect i was talking about.


There is nothing about believing in an omnipotent being that is intrinsically deserving of respect. You demanding that I respect your beliefs is demanding that I, one who does not share your beliefs, govern my life in accordance to them.
 
2006-06-05 9:44:37 AM  
Fine fine. I, for one, have nothing but respect for people who believe in an omnipotent invisible sky wizard .
 
2006-06-05 9:46:46 AM  
I, for one, have nothing but respect for people who believe in an omnipotent invisible sky wizard who never began and will never end.
 
2006-06-05 9:47:26 AM  
Action Replay Nick
Fine fine. I, for one, have nothing but respect for people who believe in an omnipotent invisible sky wizard .

You forgot being, asshat!
 
2006-06-05 9:48:39 AM  
Bonkthat_Again:
Action Replay Nick: I, for one, have nothing but respect for people who believe in the invisible sky wizard an omnipotent being.
...would have been more appropriate.


Yes, but not nearly as funny. People make a joke, and you interpret it as disrespect. People make dead baby jokes - does that mean they disrespect babies? And I'm sure you've been around long enough to see the submitter's mom jokes. Does making those mean that a person disrespects the submitter's mother? Probably not. Learn to take a joke, dude. Hell, if you feel adventurous, reply with another joke. I'm sure y'all Godfolk have atheist/agnostic jokes you tell when people like us ain't around.
 
2006-06-05 9:53:03 AM  
St00pidN00b
I'm sure y'all Godfolk have atheist/agnostic jokes you tell when people like us ain't around.

Q: What did the unsaved heathen say to the other unsaved heathen?

A: Does it really matter? They're going to hell so they're already dead to me! HAW! HAW!
 
2006-06-05 9:58:57 AM  
ArizonaBay: You demanding that I respect your beliefs is demanding that I, one who does not share your beliefs, govern my life in accordance to them.

Really? Where the fark did i say that? If you're going to put words in my mouth, at least let me give you what they should be.
"Respect my belief in God, and I'll respect your non-belief in him. Live your life the way you want to...I don't care what you do".

Action Replay Nick: Fine fine. I, for one, have nothing but respect for people who believe in an omnipotent invisible sky wizard .

Now, you're just being a dick.

St00pidN00b: I'm sure y'all Godfolk have atheist/agnostic jokes you tell when people like us ain't around.

You didn't even glance at the link I provided above, did you?

People make a joke, and you interpret it as disrespect.
It stops becoming a joke when it's rampant, repetitive, and unwarranted. THAT's the difference.
 
2006-06-05 10:07:31 AM  
It's too early on a Monday for this shiat.
 
2006-06-05 10:08:42 AM  
Bonkthat_Again: You didn't even glance at the link I provided above, did you?

I read it up to the point where it tells me to register if I want to read more, so I doubt I've gotten to the point where it applies to what I said.
 
2006-06-05 10:11:00 AM  
where people like The Billdozer and myself feel like they're walking on glass in religious discussions.

I can see how you would. It's tough to be even loosely and unfairly associated with some supposedly religious individuals because your God and theirs happen to have the same name.

This is where, I think, the problem lies. Is Christ the same guy that Fred Phelps, Pat Robertson, and the Pope worship?... (extreme example, I know)

Most people look on that fact as somewhat confusing, contradictory, and scary.

If the Bible was an actual Rule-book, things might be easier, because it wouldn't be open to interpretation as much... which is where my main problem with religion lies.
 
2006-06-05 10:14:58 AM  
So let me get this straight. They're feeding themselves to lions now? What's next? Baptists holding themselves underwater too long?
 
2006-06-05 10:15:11 AM  
OlafTheBent: If the Bible was an actual Rule-book, things might be easier, because it wouldn't be open to interpretation as much...

I agree 100%. I read a couple of the books of the Bible, and for the longest time whenever I read about someone getting stoned, I thought "Hey, cool! Religion endorses smoking weed." But then I realized that it was referring to throwing rocks at them, which is nowhere near as fun
 
2006-06-05 10:19:38 AM  
OlafTheBent: If the Bible was an actual Rule-book, things might be easier, because it wouldn't be open to interpretation as much... which is where my main problem with religion lies.

Personally, I'm somewhat agnostic. I believe the faults of man fill the Bible more than divine direction. I'm a fan of Jesus though.

"Love one another" is the only useful line in the Bible...and we don't need a book, church, congregation, or pastor to tell us how to do that.
 
2006-06-05 10:22:12 AM  
"Respect my belief in God, and I'll respect your non-belief in him. Live your life the way you want to...I don't care what you do".


Pardon the snark. I'm very torn when it comes to religion. I don't look at the belief in (a) [god/gods/tao/omnipresent organizing force/other higher power] with disdain at all.

However, it is my perception that those still following Abrahamic religions have a very primitive concept of god. I, for some reason, take this very personally. It is my firm belief that the unevolved god-concept is holding humanity's progress back. People are too preoccupied with "getting into heaven" because they don't realize that, if any god really exists, they would prefer us to try and create an earth as close to heaven as possible.

So basically.

Primitive concept of god => lack of interest in earthly progress => an undesireable climate on earth => human suffering.

That is the progression I see. That is why the "dumb" connotation gets thrown around.
 
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